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Crozz was saying:
It's now exactly three times.How many times has Videl died now?
Also if she's dead because of the spikes then how many other people got hit with it?
Also if she's dead because of the spikes then how many other people got hit with it?
In DBZ, Videl dies when Super Buu turns everyone at the Lookout into chocolate and eats them.
In DBM, U18 Videl dies at the hands of Majin Cell during the MR arc. And now by a spike created because of XXI. 1 Replie(s)
Videl! No!
We lost U9 Videl, now U18 Videl. I pray that U16 Videl is safe.
DB Multiverse page 2570
We lost U9 Videl, now U18 Videl. I pray that U16 Videl is safe.
Jackowhatson was saying:
Gut beobachtet. Ich schätze mal, das ist nur ein kleiner Zeichenfehler, der sich eingeschlichen hat. Auf Page 109 sieht man, dass die Potara zerbrochen ist, auf Page 108 jedoch nicht. Das ist Asura mit Vegetto und den Kaioshin in DBM ziemlich oft passiert.
Ich will nix sagen, aber müsste der Potara bei Black nicht kaputt sein?
Der Oberkörper ist jetzt frei. Oh, das heißt, jetzt wirds ernst.
Saigo no Son page 129
papupata was saying:
It's a picture of Cashman.
He puts his own picture on the target?
mAc Chaos was saying:
The latter. Piccolo already mentioned it on the previous page. There was an explosion. And that obviously happened after XXI made his wish.Wait, so is this like, what the "world of stopped time" looks like on the inside, or is this just the regular stadium but it all caved in on them or something somehow?
ITHINKITSFUTILE was saying:
What we see here is what happened after XXI made his wish. In addition, someone, either XXI himself or South Kaioshin, activated Life Skip. The explosion that Piccolo mentioned on the previous page must have something to do with XXI's wish, because when everyone else was frozen when IKL used Life-Skip, or when XXI fought Goku in the final battle, there were no explosions with giant spikes or anything like that.
I am so confuse, I don't understand right now, Is this like after XXI make his wish or when I'K'L stop time?
Gut, von Piccolo werden die Namen ausgerufen, sonst wäre es schwierig, zu unterscheiden, wer gerade gesprochen hat. Es ist wirklich herzzerreißend, wie Gohan hier spricht. Man merkt sofort, dass hier etwas mit Videl passiert ist.
DB Multiverse page 2569
PurpleAqua was saying:
Du hast Recht. Das Setting passt jetzt ideal. Ich glaube auch, die Vision mit Piccolo wird bald eintreten.
Interessant, bald kommt eine von Bardocks Visionen in der Gegenwart an als Piccolo zu U16 Bra und U18 Vegeta sagte das nur sein Wille sie am Leben hält und sie sich benehmen sollen. Seite 732 bin gespannt :)
Das letzte Panel ist abermals hervorragend koloriert. Hut ab!
DBMultiverse Colors page 431
@Dojos with entrance exams.
Since it has been mentioned several times (through the last couple pages), I would like to express my opinion on this.
An entrance exam in which you have to defeat active members in a fight is a common and credible motif in fictional stories, especially in martial arts media. It fits well with dojos that are portrayed as competitive, elitist, or strictly traditional, as in Cobra Kai or similar settings. You could use such a scenario to show your character's challenges, advance their development, or question the values of the dojo (e.g., strength, honor, or ruthlessness). Examples such as Naruto, Dragon Ball or Kung Fu Panda show how such tests can be used effectively in a narrative. If we remain strictly on the topic of dojos, there are a handful of competition-oriented or elite dojos in fiction, such as in Karate Kid or Ranma ½, etc.
Early dayz page 8
Since it has been mentioned several times (through the last couple pages), I would like to express my opinion on this.
An entrance exam in which you have to defeat active members in a fight is a common and credible motif in fictional stories, especially in martial arts media. It fits well with dojos that are portrayed as competitive, elitist, or strictly traditional, as in Cobra Kai or similar settings. You could use such a scenario to show your character's challenges, advance their development, or question the values of the dojo (e.g., strength, honor, or ruthlessness). Examples such as Naruto, Dragon Ball or Kung Fu Panda show how such tests can be used effectively in a narrative. If we remain strictly on the topic of dojos, there are a handful of competition-oriented or elite dojos in fiction, such as in Karate Kid or Ranma ½, etc.
Er sollte lieber eine Pause einlegen, bevor er sich einem weiteren Gegner stellt.
Early dayz page 7
Cooler und sein Team einzubeziehen, könnte Sinn machen. Wenn man Details und Handlungsstränge an den richtigen Stellen überarbeitet, könnte Coola sehr gut zum Kanon passen. Diese Idee gefällt mir sehr gut. Allerdings hat DBM Coola auch integriert, indem es nur ein paar Details geändert hat. Ich bin also sehr gespannt, wie sich das entwickeln wird.
Vegeta Tales page 29
How convenient that Piccolo says the names, otherwise we really wouldn't know who was unfrozen, except for Goku.
DB Multiverse page 2569
Damian Qualshy was saying:
It seems like you're overlooking one detail. When Piccolo activates his counterattack before the Life Skip technique is performed, he creates a shield around his antennas, so to speak, with a radius large enough to include his brain. Ken Oh was saying: Damian Qualshy was saying: Darius was saying: Damian Qualshy was saying: But WHY is it working??? It doesn't make any sense.
Your questioning magic/ki when gohan literally phased into babidi closed dimension in the majin rebellion arc?
I buy phasing because I like The Flash, and we've seen Gotenks and Buu do a similar thing already as well.
This, what Piccolo is doing, goes directly against the premise of IKL technique. Stated in the same page.
Per String Theory, the fundamental building blocks of the universe are one-dimensional quantum particles that vibrate in multiple dimensions, which different vibrational states correspond to the various particles and forces we observe in nature. A time-stop ability would halt this vibration, so IKL's life-stop ability must too, just specific to living beings. Piccolo's antenna are vibrating on a rapid/quantum level and are able to extend that in an area of effect to offset the life-stop.
Or, it's magic, idk dude.
If the life-stop stops life, stops the vibration of life, why is Piccolo allowed to vibrate his antenna if they should be stopped as well, just like the rest of his LIFE body? This feels like a very deus ex limiter on the technique.
If they're gonna say next some shit like "oh Androids aren't affected because their generators vibrate" like dude I'm gonna lose my mind over this
Your questioning magic/ki when gohan literally phased into babidi closed dimension in the majin rebellion arc?
I buy phasing because I like The Flash, and we've seen Gotenks and Buu do a similar thing already as well.
This, what Piccolo is doing, goes directly against the premise of IKL technique. Stated in the same page.
Per String Theory, the fundamental building blocks of the universe are one-dimensional quantum particles that vibrate in multiple dimensions, which different vibrational states correspond to the various particles and forces we observe in nature. A time-stop ability would halt this vibration, so IKL's life-stop ability must too, just specific to living beings. Piccolo's antenna are vibrating on a rapid/quantum level and are able to extend that in an area of effect to offset the life-stop.
Or, it's magic, idk dude.
If the life-stop stops life, stops the vibration of life, why is Piccolo allowed to vibrate his antenna if they should be stopped as well, just like the rest of his LIFE body? This feels like a very deus ex limiter on the technique.
If they're gonna say next some shit like "oh Androids aren't affected because their generators vibrate" like dude I'm gonna lose my mind over this
Let's break it down into a simple example. Person 1 fires a Kamehameha at person 2. If the second person only activates the shield when the ki beam hits them, it doesn't make sense, of course, because they will already be pulverized. But if the second person activates the shield before the Kamehameha is fired, then the shield protects them from the ki attack.
Think of it this way. We literally see a round sphere, a kind of bubble, around Piccolo, as is often the case with protective shields. 2 Replie(s)
Die Szene hier sieht gut aus. Der Übergang zwischen Rückblende und Gegenwart ist geschickt gemacht. Ich frage mich, ob wir in diesem Kapitel noch öfter auf Kid Vegeta zurückkommen werden. Allerdings scheint es sich hierbei nicht nur um ein mentales Training zu handeln, sondern jemand hat tatsächlich einen Feuerball auf Vegeta geworfen.
Vegeta Tales page 28
Die Kampfchoreografie ist hier ziemlich cool. Der Luftkampf ist recht beeindruckend. Allerdings ist das Powerscaling, ehrlich gesagt, schwer nachvollziehbar.
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The inexorable distortion page 111
Plot twist.
The Genkidama is now big enough that it resembles the Powerball technique to a certain extent, allowing Nasu to transform into an Oozaru.
Saigo no Son page 128
The Genkidama is now big enough that it resembles the Powerball technique to a certain extent, allowing Nasu to transform into an Oozaru.
It's hard to believe that it's already been 5 years since FunsexyDB announced this fan comic. I wonder if there have been any changes to the original rough draft/sketches/initial release/etc.
Nevertheless, I am very excited to read another DB fan comic here. This website is slowly but surely earning a reputation as a beacon for passionate DB fan comic creators.
DB RED page 1
Nevertheless, I am very excited to read another DB fan comic here. This website is slowly but surely earning a reputation as a beacon for passionate DB fan comic creators.
Daiko was saying:
I simply believe that the “vibration of the antennas” does not seem any stranger than what we have seen in the series so far. Piccolo used the Mafuba Gaeshi against Kami without any prior hints or foreshadowing. He (probably) used Piccolo Daimao's memories to execute the counterattack. Here in DBM, Piccolo has literally seen the technique of IKL in action twice. Some users have even complained that if Piccolo recognized a pattern, why didn't Goku already develop a counter for it. And now we're here, where Piccolo has actually worked out something that helps on the third use of Life Skip. Apparently, it's impossible to find a balance; either Z Fighters should be able to counter everything immediately, or not at all. iron leaf was saying: It makes just as much sense as Goku being able to read Krillin's mind immediately after arriving on Namek.Whataboutisms don't excuse poor writing. I like the idea behind it but a simple fix would just be to explain it's part of Piccolo's already existing magical abilities. He's able to conjure things from thin air after all and still has all of Kami's knowledge, even if he can't make Dragonballs himself.
When it comes to why the antenna specifically doesn't make sense, I have to disagree. We've already seen Piccolo use his Antenna Beam against Goku in the Budokai final. So using the antennae in “combat” is by no means unprecedented. As mentioned by others, antennae are usually the most sensitive parts of the body in the animal kingdom, serving to perceive the environment. Namekians are partly based on snails, which use antennae for such purposes. It makes sense to depict such a technique in this way.
I have to say, if Piccolo had just done what Gohan did on page 1450 / page 1451, and simply countered the change in the nature of the particles (IKL) respectively the abnormal vibrations (Babidi) by synchronizing himself correctly with them, I would find that incredibly uninspiring. Now that I know there is the variant with the Namekian antennae.
It also gives the Namekian an advantage that not everyone can replicate. Gohan and co. can't counteract it with the right synchronization, as with Babidi. It's an exclusive thing, which makes it all the more exciting.
Oh nein, Vegeta hat einen Heiligenschein. Da diese in in der Originalserie Kanon sind, muss er in dieser einen Szene tot sein, Hahaha.
Super Dragon Bros Z page 190
Echt genial gut kolorierte Seite. Ich mag jedes Detail, besonder Hildegarn. Eine Sache fand ich damals schon interessant. Tapion hat weiterhin die schützende Aura von Hildegarn, obwohl das Riesenmonster seinen Körper verlassen hat. Vielleicht entweicht die Aura erst, wenn Hildegarn komplett aus Tapion raus ist, denn in der S/W Version sehen wir später, wie Tapion schutzlos ist, während Krillin mit Hildegarn kämpft.
DBMultiverse Colors page 430
@Spikes
I see it the same way as most people. It's actually very reminiscent of the needle pile aka spiked forest from hell in the battle against Janemba in the Fusion Reborn movie. And considering that U5 Janemba is part of XXI's summoning repertoire, it's not far-fetched to say that, in a certain way, the hell of another universe has collided with U0 here.
DB Multiverse page 2568
I see it the same way as most people. It's actually very reminiscent of the needle pile aka spiked forest from hell in the battle against Janemba in the Fusion Reborn movie. And considering that U5 Janemba is part of XXI's summoning repertoire, it's not far-fetched to say that, in a certain way, the hell of another universe has collided with U0 here.
Majin Wasabi was saying:
You're right. Vegetto began to die when the Life Skip was reversed, and from then on, all the blood began to flow out of Vegetto. This means that if Piccolo sees someone who is injured outside of his bubble, he should not approach them unless a healer is with him, otherwise there is a risk that the person will die from their injuries as soon as the Life Skip effect is reversed.Assuming someone who’s frozen is seriously injured, it wouldn’t be smart to unfreeze them until they find someone capable of healing (like Gast, Uub, or another Namekian). While frozen, they don’t seem to bleed or take further damage until they return to normal. Piccolo’s top priority should be finding a healer
SSJ2 Your Nick was saying:
The Freeze Thing was activated after XXI made his wish. Everything since page 2566 is a continuation of page 2520. We don't know what happened in the meantime. And I'm afraid there may be enough plot to fill chapters.I'm a bit confused. Is this during the part where XXI is killing GOku, or was the freeze thing activated again after XXI's wish?
CompactCoven was saying:
I agree. Namekian antennas never really served any purpose in the story except to create an interesting design. Only in the 23rd World Martial Arts Tournament did Piccolo use an Antenna Beam, and that was it. So I'm more than happy with the new technique. It also fits very nicely into the picture. For a change, the antennae serve a purpose, Piccolo is given an important role and is not just used as a tailor, Piccolo also counts as one of the strategically acting characters, and the statement about the counters is also completely legitimate. I think Piccolo fans have something to be happy about. iron leaf was saying: It makes just as much sense as Goku being able to read Krillin's mind immediately after arriving on Namek.
And it makes as much sense as Piccolo being able to "Reverse" the Mafuba. It's probably not just wiggling his antenna, but a new technique sustained by wiggling his antenna, there's good justification for Piccolo being able to develop a counter technique like this
SoyBear was saying: Monarch butterflies use Antenna as internal clocks, so maybe it's something like that where they're serving to help Piccolo regulate his personal time?
Oooh! I like this idea a lot
And it makes as much sense as Piccolo being able to "Reverse" the Mafuba. It's probably not just wiggling his antenna, but a new technique sustained by wiggling his antenna, there's good justification for Piccolo being able to develop a counter technique like this
SoyBear was saying: Monarch butterflies use Antenna as internal clocks, so maybe it's something like that where they're serving to help Piccolo regulate his personal time?
Oooh! I like this idea a lot
Lucas was saying:
At the time, I always struggled to find the right words to describe the circumstances surrounding Ki. Your comment summarizes it all very well.
Damian Qualshy was saying: But WHY is it working??? It doesn't make any sense.
I understand it like this: Ki naturally works as an energy barrier to defend people against external threats, up to a certain point. With that technique, since it stops life, it's able to bypass the Ki because it is essentially life force. Once the technique is fully up, all life is stopped, so even extremely powerful beings like Vegetto stop producing any ki whatsoever, and thus can get killed by pretty much anything since they're temporarily defenseless.
But Piccolo found a way to see the technique coming. So, by vibrating his antenna BEFORE the technique fully comes into work, he managed to create a different kind of barrier surrounding him. One made by the physical energy produced by the vibration of his antenna.
It seems pretty plausible for me, all things considered.
Now I wonder if he'll be able to get other people out from the technique's effect by expanding this bubble.
I understand it like this: Ki naturally works as an energy barrier to defend people against external threats, up to a certain point. With that technique, since it stops life, it's able to bypass the Ki because it is essentially life force. Once the technique is fully up, all life is stopped, so even extremely powerful beings like Vegetto stop producing any ki whatsoever, and thus can get killed by pretty much anything since they're temporarily defenseless.
But Piccolo found a way to see the technique coming. So, by vibrating his antenna BEFORE the technique fully comes into work, he managed to create a different kind of barrier surrounding him. One made by the physical energy produced by the vibration of his antenna.
It seems pretty plausible for me, all things considered.
Now I wonder if he'll be able to get other people out from the technique's effect by expanding this bubble.
Wir können deutlich die schützende Blase um Piccolos Antennen sehen, die ihn am Leben hält. Seine Beine scheinen vollständig gelähmt oder eingefroren zu sein. Piccolo ist natürlich die Ruhe selbst, aber er konnte sich zu Beginn tatsächlich kaum bewegen. Das muss für die meisten Menschen eine schreckliche Erfahrung sein. Es ist fast so, als wäre man halb versteinert wie Babidi, als er auf Page 1838 von Dabura angespuckt wurde.
Allgemein ist das eine super Seite. So viele Informationen und so viel Raum für Spekulationen. Diese Stacheln erinnern einen schon etwas an den Nadelhaufen in der Hölle, im Fusion Reborn Film. Als Goku und Vegeta gegen Janemba kämpften.
DB Multiverse page 2568
Allgemein ist das eine super Seite. So viele Informationen und so viel Raum für Spekulationen. Diese Stacheln erinnern einen schon etwas an den Nadelhaufen in der Hölle, im Fusion Reborn Film. Als Goku und Vegeta gegen Janemba kämpften.
I like it when a simple little Ki ball in your hand serves as a kind of torch, aka light source. It happens so rarely because Saiyans are their own light source as SSJs, lol.
Either those are spikes or thorns. A large pile of needles or a plant. I'm very curious to see where this is all going.
Piccolo confirms once again how many people view KI. A kind of protective cloak over your body that protects you from injuries and other external conditions. The reason why many people don't lose their clothes when they are injured by Ki attacks is because their own Ki acts as a kind of mantle that also protects their clothes (for the most part). The stronger you are, the greater the protection. And without it, you are as defenseless as Mr. Satan when you are struck by spikes or thorns, for example.
DB Multiverse page 2568
Either those are spikes or thorns. A large pile of needles or a plant. I'm very curious to see where this is all going.
Piccolo confirms once again how many people view KI. A kind of protective cloak over your body that protects you from injuries and other external conditions. The reason why many people don't lose their clothes when they are injured by Ki attacks is because their own Ki acts as a kind of mantle that also protects their clothes (for the most part). The stronger you are, the greater the protection. And without it, you are as defenseless as Mr. Satan when you are struck by spikes or thorns, for example.
Damian Qualshy was saying:
It makes just as much sense as Goku being able to read Krillin's mind immediately after arriving on Namek.
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But WHY is it working??? It doesn't make any sense.
Es hätte mir gereicht, wenn wir im letzten Hauptkapitel ein Panel gesehen hätten, in dem U18 reagiert, als die Verbündeten von XXI angreifen. Und dort sehen wir besorgte Gesichter und einige, die sich wie Vegetto und Gast bereit machen, in Aktion zu treten. Und dann, Piccolo nimmt lässig seinen Turban ab.
Zu diesem Zeitpunkt hätte dies als Hinweis dienen können, dass er seine Antennen für den Gegenangriff vorbereitet. Aber zu diesem Zeitpunkt hätten wir einfach gedacht, Piccolo würde sich auf den Kampf einstellen. Das hätte mir gefallen.
DB Multiverse page 2567
Zu diesem Zeitpunkt hätte dies als Hinweis dienen können, dass er seine Antennen für den Gegenangriff vorbereitet. Aber zu diesem Zeitpunkt hätten wir einfach gedacht, Piccolo würde sich auf den Kampf einstellen. Das hätte mir gefallen.
migoq was saying:
It's incredibly rude to say something like that about the artist's work.
Today was saying: I have no clue what is going on in this story
unsurprising, this one is pretty mid
I just hope for occasional great art like ikari level 2 page and don't expect much else
unsurprising, this one is pretty mid
I just hope for occasional great art like ikari level 2 page and don't expect much else
That's obviously a fake-out. Goten-kun wouldn't kill Gohan so abruptly after that long story so far. The real question is what the consequences will be.
Saigo no Son page 127
Irgendwie ergibt Black keinen Sinn hier. Ich hoffe sehr, es ist Teil des Skripts, ihn hier etwas dümmlich wirken zu lassen.
The inexorable distortion page 110
Ich war schon immer ein großer Fan von Tapion. Das hier ist alles großartig. Und ihn in Farbe zu sehen, macht mich wirklich glücklich. Vielen Dank an das Kolorierungsteam.
DBMultiverse Colors page 429
Oh Gott, mir ist gerade erst aufgefallen, dass der Felsen Augen hat. Lol.
Super Dragon Bros Z page 189
So it's not a time stop, but it instead halts life.
Hmm, so it's a Life-Skip. ;)
So it is a direct reference and continuation of what Piccolo already analyzed on page 2512. In the meantime, he has devised and initiated a counter.
I absolutely love how Piccolo's lower body continues to shimmer in blue, suggesting that the radius of his counterattack is extremely small. So small, in fact, that (at the beginning) it only affected part of his body. which must be extremely frightening to see half of your body frozen.
DB Multiverse page 2567
Hmm, so it's a Life-Skip. ;)
So it is a direct reference and continuation of what Piccolo already analyzed on page 2512. In the meantime, he has devised and initiated a counter.
I absolutely love how Piccolo's lower body continues to shimmer in blue, suggesting that the radius of his counterattack is extremely small. So small, in fact, that (at the beginning) it only affected part of his body. which must be extremely frightening to see half of your body frozen.
Northeal was saying:
It should be noted that the turban would actively prevent Piccolo from vibrating his antennas. It makes sense in terms of the plot why Piccolo is not wearing the turban at the moment.
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The dialogue implies some power and he is in the cloak but no turban look which is rare for him.
So that's definitely a Namekian's antenna. And from the context of the text box, it can't possibly be Gast or Piccolo Daimao. There's talk of a Counter, so it's certainly the Mafuba Gaeshi, which only Piccolo Junior used. The question is whether it's U18 or U16 Piccolo. Or maybe both at the same time. We see the blue shimmer, which so far indicates what has been frozen by the time-stop technique. But we also see a white area. This means that we are about to find out who found a counterattack for IKL's technique and how.
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DB Multiverse page 2566
Sieht aus als hätte Piccolo einen Konter für I'K'L's Technik gefunden. So wie der Text beschrieben wird, klingt das zumindest so.
DB Multiverse page 2566
Cooles Schwert. Der Griff sieht gut aus. Und das ganze mit den dunklen Flammen, und der Angriff. Echt beeindruckend.
Kakodaiman: the Return of Cashman!! page 24
Das erinnert mich jetzt an U17 Cell, der Krillin ins All mitgezerrt hat, damit er dort im Vakuum stirbt.
The inexorable distortion page 109
Diese Seite hat echt viel Power. Die Zeichnungen, das Paneling, der Text. Beeindruckend.
Saigo no Son page 126
Yamoshi, you're not going to stop there, right? What are you waiting for?
Do it
Just do it
Yamoshi Story page 131
Do it
Just do it
Er scheint hartnäckig zu sein. Interessant. Er ist entschlossen, in ein Kampfsport-Dojo oder etwas Ähnliches aufgenommen zu werden.
Early dayz page 5
So, es ist Sayazur-Canon, dass Xenomorphs und Frostdämoen quasi miteinander verwandt sind. Hahah.
Vegeta Tales page 26
Es ist wirklich erfrischend, zur Abwechslung einmal etwas anderes als Saiyajins, Namekianer oder Frostdämonen im Rampenlicht zu sehen. Ein Turnierkampf zwischen einem Menschen mit Kaioken und einem relativ unbekannten Außerirdischen (Konatsianer) mit der schützenden Aura eines Kaju. Es ist schade, dass wir nicht mehr von solchen Dingen zu sehen bekommen. Deshalb genieße ich diese seltenen Szenen so sehr.
DBMultiverse Colors page 428
Endlich der Kampf in Farbe. Ich war schon immer ein Fan von diesem Kampf.
DBMultiverse Colors page 427
HoCBo was saying:
Thank you so much for your hard work. As someone who has worked with you personally, I know exactly how much time and effort goes into creating animations. And this chapter is full of animations. Amazing work. I really appreciate it. And that’s it ,the last page of the chapter!
I know your style, and I have absolutely no problem with how you like to put female characters in the spotlight to better showcase their feminine attributes. I would argue that your style really gave the decisive push to make Juna be perceived the way Salagir and you intended. A strikingly provocative version of Anju in an outfit designed to make Uub's heart beat faster. It worked.
In general, I would like to get something off my chest. I have often read fan fiction featuring Uub. And very often he is portrayed as someone who actually still has Buu's demonic powers. In DBM, on the other hand, he is mostly human and his only real connection to Buu is through magic. What's more, Uub finally has a love interest, which feels new and fresh. Far too often, only an adult Pan or Bra are paired with Uub. DBM takes a different approach, and I like that. Even before the MR arc (before Goku vs. Uub), I had my doubts about how DBM would ultimately pay respect to Uub, and until recently, he had little screen time. Now I am completely convinced. DBM is cooking with Uub. Passing the torch to the next generation is a concept I buy into with DBM, unlike other DB stories post-DBZ.
Something has happened, and Uub and Juna only appear after XXI has stopped time, and... they are currently in limbo, or rather, time has resumed and chaos reigns. I don't recognize the golden tower. It looks like a monster's helmet or something with red eyes. But I recognize the Varga control tower. I love how Juna blushes. Man, she really has feelings for Uub. Or something like that. I think it's really cute.
Uub had been in the pocket dimension for almost two years. That's almost a day longer than after the final.
I wonder if Uub didn't take into account that he would accidentally be trapped for so long that he would miss the tournament and everyone could leave U0, so that he would remain trapped in U0 even if he left the pocket dimension? Sure, Goku & Co. wouldn't just return to U18 without Uub, but Uub must have thought about it often, that the others wouldn't sit around in U0 twiddling their thumbs for days after the tournament was over until Uub returned.
Juna has seemed very robotic up until recently. Now she has shown real emotions, as if she were truly human. I just wonder how Uub will continue to interact with her. My headcanon says that ZenBuu programmed her to come across as robotic until Uub successfully masters his lesson. From then on, Juna's personality memory activates and she is allowed to be herself. However, it seems much more likely that she will learn... independently... just like Fat Buu. I stick to my opinion that Juna is just this girl from page 2077, but with a higher power level, language, and different “skin.”
ZenBuu was saying:
Well, that sounds scary. Let's not forget that Maqua was able to create an illusion of Vegetto's greatest fear: a Son Bra with SSJ3. No problem for Vegetto to eliminate. But for others, their illusions of their greatest fears could mean something completely different. What if this Maqua is from U5? What else do we see here? A floating water cube. It kinda looks like the one Vegetto was trapped in that one U16 special (page 1754). And it looks like some creature is inside there. The cube even has a name, Maqua, according to this minicomic.
DrewSaga was saying:
Futurama really has a lot of great quotes and scenes. Someone should turn it into a mini-comic or LeNuage should make a sketch out of it. lol.
ZGrssd was saying: "What happend to the arena?"
"..."
"To shreds you say.
And the teams?"
"..."
"To shreds you say."
Lol I understood that reference! Great use of it too.
"..."
"To shreds you say.
And the teams?"
"..."
"To shreds you say."
Lol I understood that reference! Great use of it too.
HoCBo was saying:
Im Namen der deutschen Mitglieder des DBM-Teams möchte ich dir unseren aufrichtigen Dank aussprechen. Wir wissen deine harte Arbeit wirklich sehr zu schätzen. Es war eine große Freude mitzuverfolgen wie sich die Reise von Uub entfaltet. Es ist kaum zu glauben, dieses Kapitel ist seit 2 Jahren fertiggestellt. Deine Fertigkeiten im Zeichnen müssen sich bestimmt enorm gebessert haben. Ich wünsche dir alles gute im weiteren Verlauf deiner Künstlerkarriere. Wir würden uns alle ganz bestimmt freuen, wenn du wieder vorbeikommst und uns mit deiner unglaublichen Kunst verzauberst.
Und das war’s , die letzte Seite des Kapitels!
Juna ist jetzt offiziell kanonisch in DBM
Das nächste Mal werdet ihr sie wahrscheinlich von Asura in der Hauptgeschichte gezeichnet sehen!
Ich hoffe, euch hat dieses Kapitel, die Animationen und Uubs Reise gefallen.
Wenn ihr Fragen habt, fragt ruhig , ich beantworte sie gern, so gut ich kann.
Danke, dass ihr diesen kleinen Teil des Abenteuers mit mir geteilt habt
PS: Folgt mir gern oder schreibt mir auf meinen sozialen Netzwerken, wenn ihr möchtet
Juna ist jetzt offiziell kanonisch in DBM
Das nächste Mal werdet ihr sie wahrscheinlich von Asura in der Hauptgeschichte gezeichnet sehen!
Ich hoffe, euch hat dieses Kapitel, die Animationen und Uubs Reise gefallen.
Wenn ihr Fragen habt, fragt ruhig , ich beantworte sie gern, so gut ich kann.
Danke, dass ihr diesen kleinen Teil des Abenteuers mit mir geteilt habt
PS: Folgt mir gern oder schreibt mir auf meinen sozialen Netzwerken, wenn ihr möchtet
Hector Fenwick was saying:
I keep thinking about this joke I made a few years ago, where Uub goes to the psychiatrist Buu and describes his situation to him. I did that after page 988 was published. Somehow, it makes me smile because it could still be applied to this scenario. lol.I think this is the girl Uub should end up with, the one he lived with and got to know. The other Anju is just someone he never got the courage to talk to.
![[img]](https://i.postimg.cc/T1H5g9Sy/Uub-visits-Doctor-Buu.jpg)
BangBang was saying:
From a power level perspective alone, Juna is incredibly OP. She is much more impressive than Grubuu, and he didn't react at all to the Transcended Kaioken when he was hit by Uub. For Juna's power level to make sense, she must be above the SSJ3 tier and Mystic tier. Only Vegetto could truly eliminate her without any problems. And characters like Son Bra SSJ2 or Broly LSSJ (after several powerups) would certainly have a chance in 1-v-1. Aww, so sweet.
She's gonna be kinda overpowered in the tournament setting. And Uub got way stronger too, wonder if they're gonna be game changers.
She's gonna be kinda overpowered in the tournament setting. And Uub got way stronger too, wonder if they're gonna be game changers.
Then there's the magic. Only powerful magic users like XXI and Gast could counter it. It's Buu's magic, so most people should be familiar with it.
The only way to truly defeat Juna is with Vegetto and XXI. Everyone else could probably only achieve something through teamwork.
Brunom was saying:
I understand the sentiment. However, I must argue that the Candybeam magic has many facets. Uub has learned to perfect the beam so that he can transform anyone into anything he can imagine. We already saw this in the previous Uub chapter. In addition, Uub can now control the Candybeam like Yamcha's Spirit Ball technique. Furthermore, Candybeam in the form of kicks and punches. Finally, Uub uses the Kaioken in conjunction with the Candybeam (I'll call it Kaio-Candy from now on, lol) as a final application, which sends multiple Candybeam rays flying in all directions. I'm pretty satistied with the outcome, but yeah, it would have been nice if he knew more magic or different techniques. I don't think he even knows how to teleport, for one.
kcheeb was saying:
I don't want to go off-topic. I'm just saying that of all the relationships in Dragon Ball, the Videl x Gohan love story is the best portrayed. It makes the most sense of all of them, and a lot of effort was actually put into setting it up. whats 1st best romance story
ZenBuu was saying:
I would like to add something else. The time dates may be confusing, and many may have forgotten them. I have no idea why you think that Uub is 15, but as kingworld said, he is 20 (now 22).
Age 774: Uub is born (Kid Buu dies)
Age 784: EoZ / 28th World Martial Arts Tournament
Age 794: DBM Tournament
Haha, diesen Kommentar im ersten Panel könnte man sich im echten Leben gut von seinem Arbeitgeber anhören, sobald man nach der Ausbildung kündigt oder so. LOL
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Saigo no Son page 125
Man fragt sich warum Zamanks sich so schwer tut. Vielleicht ist da mehr dahinter. Sonst ist das schwer nachzuvollziehen.
The inexorable distortion page 108
Bulma's Anmerkung zu Vegeta's Aussehen ... Rückblickend muss man in mehreren Szenen andeuten, dass Bulma und Vegeta sich näherkommen, auch wenn es nur auf körperlicher Ebene ist. Ich schätze es sehr, wie Sayazur wirklich versucht zu erklären, inwiefern diese beiden irgendwie Trunks gezeugt haben könnten, ohne dass es aus dem Nichts kommt.
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Vegeta Tales page 25
Das wäre doch ein interessanter Plotthread, wenn in der Gegenwart Zarbon in der Nähe der Erde befindet und sich jederzeit einmischen könnte. Nichtsdestotrotz, das letzte Panel ist sehr einfallsreich. Die Sprechblasen gehören wohl in die Gegenwart im Kampf Vegeta vs Nasu gerade. Falls ich mich nicht täusche.
Saigo no Son page 124
Yamoshi! Cumber war von Anfang an verloren gewesen. Keine Chance ihn zu retten. Der Zug ist abgefahren, und zwar vor langer Zeit.
Yamoshi Story page 130
Your nickel was saying:
The setup was to teach Uub magic. The entire first Uub Special Chapter revolved entirely around the spell Candybeam. It was only incidental that ZenBuu taught Uub self-healing. We don't know for sure, but we can strongly assume that if ZenBuu hadn't been sent home, the “final exam” with Juna or an alternative for Juna, under ZenBuu's supervision, wouldn't have taken so long. And after successfully completing the Candybeam exam, ZenBuu would have introduced a new spell for Uub to master, in my opinion. Since ZenBuu disappeared, they had no choice but to complete Juna's programming, which only included CandyBeam.The only thing I do find weird is that Uub only learned Candy Beam and healing in this training. Which are both extremely useful, but it was still set up as if he would learn a lot more:
In short, if ZenBuu had still been there, Uub would certainly have learned a lot more.
I have to admit that I think it's great that Uub only has two tricks, but he has mastered them. Quality over quantity. (Looking at you, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness.)
Ah, eine 'Underdog' Geschichte. Ich bin da grad Feuer und Flamme bei solchen Settings.
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Early dayz page 3
Die Architekur erinnert schon an die typischen Städte auf der Erde in Dragonball. Das wird wohl ganz bestimmt die Erde sein.
Early dayz page 2
Awesome cover. Great first impression. I'm excited to see what the comic is all about.
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Early dayz page 1
It was so obvious that Juna could open the portal as easily as Zenbuu himself. I also thought the scene where Uub asks her to shout a “Rift in the Dimension” like Gotenks in HTC was very strange. In hindsight, it explains that Juna had no real intention of opening the portal as long as Uub didn't manage to transform her into candy. Oh, and those awkward interactions sometimes, which clearly convey a kind of misunderstanding in relation to her robotic manner of expression. Brilliant personality trait. Must definitely be preserved. This has the potential to become the second-best romance story in DB, ha.
If only Uub knew why ZenBuu is no longer there, he might not speak so highly of him. However, Uub has also witnessed Buu's previous interventions. Apparently, he sees the pink demon with different eyes than everyone else in U0. This setting between interactions from the original and reincarnation was fascinating from the start. And with Juna, another component now comes into play. I really hope Juna won't be sacrificed as the very first pawn in the following story. 2 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 2564
If only Uub knew why ZenBuu is no longer there, he might not speak so highly of him. However, Uub has also witnessed Buu's previous interventions. Apparently, he sees the pink demon with different eyes than everyone else in U0. This setting between interactions from the original and reincarnation was fascinating from the start. And with Juna, another component now comes into play. I really hope Juna won't be sacrificed as the very first pawn in the following story. 2 Replie(s)
Als großer Fan von Tapion (und generell von Konatsian, Hildegarn usw.) finde ich jede Darstellung dieses großartigen, melancholischen Charakters faszinierend. Das Cover ist pure Comic Nostalgie. Jetzt bin ich neugierig: Wie ist man auf dieses Spiderman-Cover als Vorlage gekommen?
DBMultiverse Colors page 426
Ach, die gute alte Wii Konsole. Da werden Erinnerungen wach. Und trotzdem muss ich an "Call On Me" von Eric Prydz denken, wenn ich sowas sehe, haha. Bulma strahlt Sexappeal förmlich aus.
Der Witz am Ende, wie die Mütze mit Klebeband am Kopf befestigt wurde, weil sie auf den vorherigen Seiten immer wieder herunterfiel. Genial.
Super Dragon Bros Z page 187
Der Witz am Ende, wie die Mütze mit Klebeband am Kopf befestigt wurde, weil sie auf den vorherigen Seiten immer wieder herunterfiel. Genial.
That reminds me of the end of the previous Uub Flashback Chapter. We had a brief, awkward moment of silence before Juna broke the ice by quickly changing the subject. (Page 2085)
![[img]](https://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/image.php?idp=1002085&lg=en&ext=jpg&pw=860e345ea4d83f7e478321b78cfe5878)
She has truly developed feelings for Uub during this time. Haha, that's so cute. It's incredible how such sidecharacter can flesh out so much in just two chapters.
From the very beginning, U4 Buu wanted to support his own variations (U11 Buu and U18 Uub) and show them a world full of possibilities. To try to get them to overcome their limitations on their own. In U11, we saw how Fat Buu ultimately disobeyed Babidi at the decisive moment when they returned to U11.
ZenBuu interfered more with Uub. But because he genuinely wanted to help him. And not just to become the greatest magician after himself, of course. He also managed to slowly weed out Uub's timidness by using Anju's image. And now you could say Uub got mad rizz. If he managed to make a killing machine fall in love with him, haha. Maybe Buu helped with that. I wouldn't be surprised if Buu wanted his reincarnation to dominate in all areas. Haha. 3 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 2563
She has truly developed feelings for Uub during this time. Haha, that's so cute. It's incredible how such sidecharacter can flesh out so much in just two chapters.
Daiko was saying:
Because he's a true bro. A real wingman. An unbeatable champion at living in the here and now. A real Zen master ;)Why did Buu make a blushing automaton to fall in love with Uub? Hell, why did Buu take this form and be weirdly flirty in Uub's dreams?
From the very beginning, U4 Buu wanted to support his own variations (U11 Buu and U18 Uub) and show them a world full of possibilities. To try to get them to overcome their limitations on their own. In U11, we saw how Fat Buu ultimately disobeyed Babidi at the decisive moment when they returned to U11.
ZenBuu interfered more with Uub. But because he genuinely wanted to help him. And not just to become the greatest magician after himself, of course. He also managed to slowly weed out Uub's timidness by using Anju's image. And now you could say Uub got mad rizz. If he managed to make a killing machine fall in love with him, haha. Maybe Buu helped with that. I wouldn't be surprised if Buu wanted his reincarnation to dominate in all areas. Haha. 3 Replie(s)
Oh, blaue Aura, interessant. Ich war damals immer neugierig, wie das in Farbe aussehen würde. Ich erinnere mich wie einige Fan-Arts im Internet kursierten, welche Tapion's Hildegarn-Aura in grün dargestellt haben.
Eines darf man nicht vergessen, DBM hat hier wahrlich eine grandiose Idee umgesetzt hat, mal abseits von den typischen Saiyajin, Namekianern oder Frostdämonen Angelegenheiten. Was würde passieren, wenn man die Macht des Wesens nutzen könnte, die man durch Magie in sich selbst versiegelt hat? In diesem Fall, was wäre, wenn Tapion die Macht von Hirudegarn nutzen könnte? (Vergleichbar mit einer temporären Buu-Absorption.)
Für viele mag das eben eine nebensächliche Sache sein, aber mich hat das damals vor etwa 10 Jahren (S/W Comic Version) wirklich sehr inspiriert. So sehr, dass genau diese Idee ein grundlegendes Element meiner eigenen DB Fangeschichte ist. Und nebenbei sowohl Tapion als auch Krillin sehen hier wirklich grandios gut aus. :)
DBMultiverse Colors page 425
Eines darf man nicht vergessen, DBM hat hier wahrlich eine grandiose Idee umgesetzt hat, mal abseits von den typischen Saiyajin, Namekianern oder Frostdämonen Angelegenheiten. Was würde passieren, wenn man die Macht des Wesens nutzen könnte, die man durch Magie in sich selbst versiegelt hat? In diesem Fall, was wäre, wenn Tapion die Macht von Hirudegarn nutzen könnte? (Vergleichbar mit einer temporären Buu-Absorption.)
Für viele mag das eben eine nebensächliche Sache sein, aber mich hat das damals vor etwa 10 Jahren (S/W Comic Version) wirklich sehr inspiriert. So sehr, dass genau diese Idee ein grundlegendes Element meiner eigenen DB Fangeschichte ist. Und nebenbei sowohl Tapion als auch Krillin sehen hier wirklich grandios gut aus. :)
Still, it was a risky plan. What if Moo-Lizard had eaten their candy before the rays hit the ground? Oh well, that's water under the bridge now.
I love Uub's grin after he realizes his plan worked. And Juna is angry, of course, angry that she now has to let Uub go according to ZenBuu's programming and can't spend any more time with him or whatnot. xD
Although, the chapter is almost over. It would also be pretty funny if Juna now reveals that they have reached the next phase of training for a potential third Uub-Special Chapter. 1 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 2562
I love Uub's grin after he realizes his plan worked. And Juna is angry, of course, angry that she now has to let Uub go according to ZenBuu's programming and can't spend any more time with him or whatnot. xD
Although, the chapter is almost over. It would also be pretty funny if Juna now reveals that they have reached the next phase of training for a potential third Uub-Special Chapter. 1 Replie(s)
griffin_station was saying:
Das wusste ich gar nicht. Oh meine Güte, ich habe schon ewig kein CoD mehr gespielt. Ich werde alt xD
iron leaf sagte: This is an elaborately designed weapon. I'm curious to know if it's just a simple pistol or something special.
Call of Duty Ray Gun and Ray Gun Mark 2 :)
Call of Duty Ray Gun and Ray Gun Mark 2 :)
Dies ist eine aufwendig gestaltete Waffe. Ich bin gespannt, ob es sich nur um eine einfache Pistole oder um etwas Besonderes handelt.
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Kakodaiman: the Return of Cashman!! page 22
Ich verstehe, er erinnert sich an seine Kindheit und sein damaliges Verhalten und erkennt dies in den Handlungen der Mushigami wieder. Er wendet die richtigen Techniken und Strategien zum richtigen Zeitpunkt an, um den Kampf ohne Probleme zu gewinnen.
Kakodaiman: the Return of Cashman!! page 21
Mir gefällt, wie sich Future Trunks' positive Einstellung zum Leben und zu Son Goku hier in Zamanks widerspiegelt.
The inexorable distortion page 106
Unglaublich, wie sehr Freezer ihn zermürbt. Egal, wie es ausgeht, Freezer bekommt, was er will. Er demütigt Vegeta und bringt die Schachfiguren in die richtige Position. Entweder die Saiyajins tun, was er sagt, oder sie sterben. Vegeta muss quasi seinen Nachfolger rekrutieren. Wenn er erfolgreich ist, wird er eines Tages ersetzt, scheitert er, wird sein Ende vorgeschoben. Eine Zwickmühle für den Prinzen.
Saigo no Son page 123
Even without Feeza, the Saiyans would have wiped themselves out sooner or later.
Yamoshi Story page 129
He just strolls in like some diva who demands several things at once. He really is a prince. lol.
Vegeta Tales page 23
ChrisOfChaos was saying:
I believe the thing about the pink bubblegum demon might possibly be a well-known fact in Uub's village. Page 2543. I mean, Uub regularly leaves the village to train with Goku. If there's any gossip (affectionately), it's definitely about how insanely strong Uub is and where his power comes from.
iron leaf was saying:
The alternative would be for Uub to return to his village with Juna and have to explain to Anju why her childhood friend has a doppelganger of her in tow who is one of the strongest beings in the universe.
If he ends up with Anju (rooting for Juna personally) he's going to have to explain that he's the reincarnation of a pink bubblegum demon and that he went to a multiverse tournament where he learned how to magically heal himself and transform stuff.
The alternative would be for Uub to return to his village with Juna and have to explain to Anju why her childhood friend has a doppelganger of her in tow who is one of the strongest beings in the universe.
If he ends up with Anju (rooting for Juna personally) he's going to have to explain that he's the reincarnation of a pink bubblegum demon and that he went to a multiverse tournament where he learned how to magically heal himself and transform stuff.
Bedauerlicherweise ist dies einer der wenigen Highlights in Bezug auf die Interaktion zwischen Freezer und Cell. Es ist eine wirklich verpasste Gelegenheit, alle drei Hauptantagonisten (Freezer, Cell, Buu) aus DBZ öfters miteinander interagieren zu lassen.
Leider muss ich noch eine weitere Anmerkung machen: Die roten Lippen der Frostdämonen wirken etwas irritierend. Die Körper sehen jedoch umso besser aus, und auch Cell sieht hervorragend aus. Besonders schön ist es, Cold in Farbe zu bewundern. 2 Replie(s)
DBMultiverse Colors page 423
Leider muss ich noch eine weitere Anmerkung machen: Die roten Lippen der Frostdämonen wirken etwas irritierend. Die Körper sehen jedoch umso besser aus, und auch Cell sieht hervorragend aus. Besonders schön ist es, Cold in Farbe zu bewundern. 2 Replie(s)
The candy looks so delicious, and how they differ between Uub and Juna. I especially like the animation. It reminds me a little of Western movies, where the camera captures the landscape and a tumbleweed scurries across the screen.
Indeed, it's a risky plan that Uub has devised. He cannot control the direction of the Candybeam rays after he has transformed. That means if the second barrage of beams rains down and happens to miss both candies, both Uub and Juna would be lost forever. 1 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 2561
Indeed, it's a risky plan that Uub has devised. He cannot control the direction of the Candybeam rays after he has transformed. That means if the second barrage of beams rains down and happens to miss both candies, both Uub and Juna would be lost forever. 1 Replie(s)
Die Süßigkeiten sehen so lecker aus. Mir gefällt besonders die Animation. Sie erinnert mich ein wenig an Westernfilme, in denen die Kamera die Landschaft einfängt und ein Tumbleweed über den Bildschirm huscht. Uub hat keine Tiere miteinberechnet, die in der Zwischenzeit die Süßigkeiten aufessen könnten xD
DB Multiverse page 2561
Ich muss Yamoshi zustimmen. Wovon spricht Cumber denn? Auch wenn er gespürt hat wie Yamoshi nicht seine komplette Kraft eingesetzt hat, wirkte es nicht, als ob er das mit Absicht zurückhalten würde. Nichtsdestotrotz wirkt Cumber hier vollkommen irrational. Er hatte offensichtlich seinen kurzen Spaß beim Kampf gegen Yamoshi, er soll sein Glück nicht testen und endlich Schluss machen. Er verhält sich wie ein typischer Anime-Bösewicht. ... Unglaublich Dumm.
Yamoshi Story page 128
"Dies ist keine Falle"
Ich liebe es, wenn Schilder (in Komödien/Parodien/etc.) auf das Offensichtiche hindeuten, oder es sogar glatt auschreiben. Großartiger Humor xD
Super Dragon Bros Z page 186
Ich liebe es, wenn Schilder (in Komödien/Parodien/etc.) auf das Offensichtiche hindeuten, oder es sogar glatt auschreiben. Großartiger Humor xD
EVA-03 was saying:
Und Gohan, der Realist. ;)
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Goku, der ewige Opptimist xD
Das ist eine unerwartete Wendung, und sie gefällt mir. Wie einige vermutet haben, könnte Freezer viele Gründe dafür haben, aber es verleiht der Geschichte auf jeden Fall mehr Tiefe.
Saigo no Son page 122
Teleported_Bread was saying:
I agree. It seems as though the story is being spun into Juna accompanying Uub after they leave the pocket dimension, but she may become one of the victims for future scenarios.AnyEdge was saying: happywarrior99 was saying: I'm the only who does not want Juna to get permanently killed?
RIP Juna.
Salagir and HoCbo, if you are reading this please do not permanently kill Juna.
No. You're not the only one. She obviously wouldn't be able to stick around forever because the real/original Juna is back on Earth - and I'm guessing Uub is going to have his Samwise Gamgee moment when everyone returns home.
Juna will either disappear when Uub completes his training along with the dimension, or she'll stick around for awhile and die in battle. Personally, I suspect she'll rescue or work on rescuing everyone from XXI's wish alongside a trained Uub, and she'll die with newfound emotions she didn't have before (besides her inherent absolute admiration for her creator), or so she and Uub had believed.
RIP Juna.
Salagir and HoCbo, if you are reading this please do not permanently kill Juna.
No. You're not the only one. She obviously wouldn't be able to stick around forever because the real/original Juna is back on Earth - and I'm guessing Uub is going to have his Samwise Gamgee moment when everyone returns home.
Juna will either disappear when Uub completes his training along with the dimension, or she'll stick around for awhile and die in battle. Personally, I suspect she'll rescue or work on rescuing everyone from XXI's wish alongside a trained Uub, and she'll die with newfound emotions she didn't have before (besides her inherent absolute admiration for her creator), or so she and Uub had believed.
One theory I would like to see fulfilled is how Juna transfers some of her power and memories to U18 Anju. That way, when we first meet U18 Anju, we don't have to deal with a complete stranger, but recognize something familiar from Juna in her. Additionally, if Uub ends up with Anju, I would really like it if the woman didn't automatically become a housewife. That's a trope I just can't stand anymore in modern DB.
The alternative would be for Uub to return to his village with Juna and have to explain to Anju why her childhood friend has a doppelganger of her in tow who is one of the strongest beings in the universe. 2 Replie(s)
Irgendwie mag ich die Dynamik zwischen Juna und Uub. Deshalb finde ich die anzügliche Anspielung mit der Umarmung hier etwas unnötig. Sicher, seit Roshi eingeführt wurde, gab es immer wieder solche Dinge, wenn auch auf einer sehr, sehr harmlosen und naiven Ebene. Ich weiß, dass Uub hier keine perversen Absichten hat, aber meine jahrelange Erfahrung mit DB-Inhalten sagt mir, es wirkt unangemessen.
Nachdem ich das erwähnt habe, muss ich aber auch sagen, das hier ist eine wirklich beeindruckende Zeichnung und mutige Inszenierung. Zum einen sieht man, wie der schüchterne Uub kein Problem damit hat, Juna so nahe zu kommen, nachdem er mit ihr zusammengelebt hat. Er ist in den fast zwei Jahren gereift. Und dann haben wir auch noch Uubs Strategie, die bis zu einem gewissen Grad an einen Kamikaze-Angriff erinnert.
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Nachdem ich das erwähnt habe, muss ich aber auch sagen, das hier ist eine wirklich beeindruckende Zeichnung und mutige Inszenierung. Zum einen sieht man, wie der schüchterne Uub kein Problem damit hat, Juna so nahe zu kommen, nachdem er mit ihr zusammengelebt hat. Er ist in den fast zwei Jahren gereift. Und dann haben wir auch noch Uubs Strategie, die bis zu einem gewissen Grad an einen Kamikaze-Angriff erinnert.
Diese Seite hat schon immer viel geboten. Die emotionale Achterbahnfahrt in Bezug auf Bojack und Gohan. Einer der Fail-Momente von Son Bra, in dem sie offenbar die Regeln vergessen hat oder versucht, Bojack trotz der Regeln zu verprügeln, obwohl sie es wahrscheinlich besser weiß. Bojacks Eingeständnis, einmal der Unterlegene zu sein, und sein Versuch, tatsächlich seine Niederlage zu verkünden. Und Cell mit seinem Tritt gegen die Wirbelsäule, genau wie damals bei Vegeta. Eine schöne Hommage.
DBMultiverse Colors page 422
I am fascinated by how Transcended Kaioken visually resembles LSSJ Broly. The missing pupils. The incredibly exaggerated, pumped-up muscles. The impression that he is a madman seeking destruction, etc.
Please refrain from leaving double posts in the future. It's against rule #9. You can edit your comments for a short while and quote multiple people in one comment.
DB Multiverse page 2560
Please refrain from leaving double posts in the future. It's against rule #9. You can edit your comments for a short while and quote multiple people in one comment.
Uub using Kaiocandy?
@Kaioken discussion
That reminds me of an old comment I made some time ago. I'll post it here again. (It shall be an exception. It fits into today's topic) That's my view on DBM's take on the Kaioken labels.
![[img]](https://i.postimg.cc/5y46Z19X/Maximum-Kaioken-vs-Transcended-Kaioken1.jpg)
If we look back at Videl, Krillin, and Uub, they use completely different terms for the different Kaioken levels throughout DBM than Goku did in DBZ. If we follow the continuity of the designations, we can come up with the following ranking for the Kaioken levels in DBM.
Kaioken (page 404, page 1031) / Kaioken Power One (page 628)
— >
Kaioken Next Level (page 406) / Stronger Kaioken (page 683)
— >
Maximum Kaioken (page 688, page 1039, page 1877)
— >
Transcended Kaioken
Kaioken Power One or simply Kaioken suggest level one, of course. With Stronger Kaioken and Kaioken next level, it can be any level after that. Maximum Kaioken seems to be the higher limit that the body can just handle (varies for each person and could be between X10 & X50). And Transcended then seems to really be a new level that we didn't even ever see with Goku, and probably a DBM Novum for dreadful consequences for excessive Kaioken usage (if we exclude other fanfiction that already discussed this topic, such as DB EX by Rogeru).
Uub at the beginning in the fight against Majin Buu & Videl at the beginning in the fight against Cold, when first activating the technique, simply call it 'Kaioken'. This leaves speculations open, if they operate with their assumed first level, or already start with a higher level.
This could explain Videl's fight against Cell Jr, where it is left open which Kaioken level she uses. For the simple description 'Kaioken' suggests Videl's first level, which of course could not stand against Cell Jr. In retrospect, it must be Videl's Maximum Kaioken. Since she can muster enough strength to fight Cell Jr while not putting her life in danger despite dire consequences to her body. Only unfortunately, every time the Maximum Kaioken is used, the whole name is also mentioned to eliminate any speculation of the level. This means that Videl vs Cell Jr is either an error of a linguistic nature, or an error in the powerscaling.
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Kaioken Level 1 can mean anything from x2 to xInfinity.
Kaioken Level 2, aka Next Level, can mean anything from Kaioken Level 1+1 to xInfinity.
Maximum Kaioken can mean anything from Kaioken Next Level+1 to xInfinity.
Transcended Kaioken can mean anything from Kaioken Maximum+1 to xInfinity.
The new phrases have been chosen specifically. Level 1 for simple use. Level 2 to add more input. Maximum to push the limits of what is possible for the user. Transcended to go beyond the limits.
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@Kaioken discussion
That reminds me of an old comment I made some time ago. I'll post it here again. (It shall be an exception. It fits into today's topic) That's my view on DBM's take on the Kaioken labels.
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If we look back at Videl, Krillin, and Uub, they use completely different terms for the different Kaioken levels throughout DBM than Goku did in DBZ. If we follow the continuity of the designations, we can come up with the following ranking for the Kaioken levels in DBM.
Kaioken (page 404, page 1031) / Kaioken Power One (page 628)
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Kaioken Next Level (page 406) / Stronger Kaioken (page 683)
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Maximum Kaioken (page 688, page 1039, page 1877)
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Transcended Kaioken
Kaioken Power One or simply Kaioken suggest level one, of course. With Stronger Kaioken and Kaioken next level, it can be any level after that. Maximum Kaioken seems to be the higher limit that the body can just handle (varies for each person and could be between X10 & X50). And Transcended then seems to really be a new level that we didn't even ever see with Goku, and probably a DBM Novum for dreadful consequences for excessive Kaioken usage (if we exclude other fanfiction that already discussed this topic, such as DB EX by Rogeru).
Uub at the beginning in the fight against Majin Buu & Videl at the beginning in the fight against Cold, when first activating the technique, simply call it 'Kaioken'. This leaves speculations open, if they operate with their assumed first level, or already start with a higher level.
This could explain Videl's fight against Cell Jr, where it is left open which Kaioken level she uses. For the simple description 'Kaioken' suggests Videl's first level, which of course could not stand against Cell Jr. In retrospect, it must be Videl's Maximum Kaioken. Since she can muster enough strength to fight Cell Jr while not putting her life in danger despite dire consequences to her body. Only unfortunately, every time the Maximum Kaioken is used, the whole name is also mentioned to eliminate any speculation of the level. This means that Videl vs Cell Jr is either an error of a linguistic nature, or an error in the powerscaling.
hedhi was saying:
It's pretty obvious that he means SSJ3 DBM-Tournament-Arc Goku powerlevel and not SSJ3 Majin-Buu-Arc Goku powerlevel.So SS3 Goku here means nothing.
hedhi was saying:
Please stop telling people they can't use the DBM novel version for more references in discussions. As long as people point out that the content is part of the novel continuity, it's totally fine to use it in the comment sections, as long as it's on-topic for the current page.Please stop referencing the Novel Version. It stopped LONG before the comic did.
The comic is much much much further ahead than the novel.
The comic is much much much further ahead than the novel.
Captain Carbonite was saying:
How do we call this attack? So many ideas floating around, ha.Oarman was saying: Has a sort of pink aura similar to Buu, neat little detail
KidTrunks was saying: Why is his aura kinda pink?...
Because it's Majindary
Yep it seems like he is going kaioken but also shooting magic beams in every direction, sort of like what Kefla did in super vs Goku but magic instead of energy.
KidTrunks was saying: Why is his aura kinda pink?...
Because it's Majindary
Yep it seems like he is going kaioken but also shooting magic beams in every direction, sort of like what Kefla did in super vs Goku but magic instead of energy.
SoyBear was saying:
Pretty much. Not sure how any of this could confuse anybody.Daiko was saying: SoyBear was saying: I mean we have the reference that was built up in the manga right? We can tell that this is that risky level that goes beyond what he should do, and was what he used to smack around ssj3 Goku. I don't think multipliers would help here since they're at levels where multipliers would need to constantly change as they grew.
I mean the first time we actually saw a transcended form was Goku going to Kaioken X3 and x4 right? Then a few months later Goku could go x20 with perfect control.
I don't know why you think Goku using Kaioken x3 and x4 was "transcended" but it was never stated, implied, or in any way shape or form said to be "transcended". That's a DBM exclusive term for Kaioken Also multipliers are just math. Multipliers don't change based on how high a number is. Multiplying something by 2 still results in double a number.
Idk the big muscles, lost pupils, and strained facial expressions look pretty similar to how Goku looked using it against Vegeta, when 3x and 4x were pushing past his body's limits.
And transcended just means going beyond right?
I mean the first time we actually saw a transcended form was Goku going to Kaioken X3 and x4 right? Then a few months later Goku could go x20 with perfect control.
I don't know why you think Goku using Kaioken x3 and x4 was "transcended" but it was never stated, implied, or in any way shape or form said to be "transcended". That's a DBM exclusive term for Kaioken Also multipliers are just math. Multipliers don't change based on how high a number is. Multiplying something by 2 still results in double a number.
Idk the big muscles, lost pupils, and strained facial expressions look pretty similar to how Goku looked using it against Vegeta, when 3x and 4x were pushing past his body's limits.
And transcended just means going beyond right?
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Beni-Kujaku was saying:
Exactly. DBM's approach is to eliminate numerical power scaling. doobedoo22 was saying: Transcend? Which multiplier is this x20?
It's "whatever multiplier goes from base Goku to overpowering SSJ3". There's just no way to give a true multiplier without also giving multipliers to SSJ forms, and the manga specifically avoided to do that. It's "whatever multiplier is too high for Uub's body to sustain more than a few seconds". Seriously, no need to tell the multiplier, because it doesn't mean anything in a word where numbered power levels haven't been used since Freeza.
It's "whatever multiplier goes from base Goku to overpowering SSJ3". There's just no way to give a true multiplier without also giving multipliers to SSJ forms, and the manga specifically avoided to do that. It's "whatever multiplier is too high for Uub's body to sustain more than a few seconds". Seriously, no need to tell the multiplier, because it doesn't mean anything in a word where numbered power levels haven't been used since Freeza.
Kaioken Level 1 can mean anything from x2 to xInfinity.
Kaioken Level 2, aka Next Level, can mean anything from Kaioken Level 1+1 to xInfinity.
Maximum Kaioken can mean anything from Kaioken Next Level+1 to xInfinity.
Transcended Kaioken can mean anything from Kaioken Maximum+1 to xInfinity.
The new phrases have been chosen specifically. Level 1 for simple use. Level 2 to add more input. Maximum to push the limits of what is possible for the user. Transcended to go beyond the limits.
I wonder if the story will be drawn out until we reach the inevitable conflict with Freeza. It's hard to say whether Vegeta will be the one to defeat Freeza on his own, or whether it will once again be a Saiyan-human hybrid.
Saigo no Son page 121
Es ist schade, dass wir Zangya und Bujin nie in ihrer Hera-Transformation zu sehen bekommen. Wenn man bedenkt, wie Bojack, Kogu und Bido (zumindest in DBM), dazu in der Lage sind/waren.
Normalerweise bin ich ein großer Fan vom Kolorierungsstil bei DBM Colors. Aber ich kann mich einfach nicht an die Farben von Son Bra's Trainingsanzug gewöhnen. Das habe ich natürlich schon mehrfach erwähnt. Ich werde es künftig unterlassen.
DBMultiverse Colors page 421
Normalerweise bin ich ein großer Fan vom Kolorierungsstil bei DBM Colors. Aber ich kann mich einfach nicht an die Farben von Son Bra's Trainingsanzug gewöhnen. Das habe ich natürlich schon mehrfach erwähnt. Ich werde es künftig unterlassen.
Rückblickend ist es ein bisschen schade, dass wir während der gesamten Laufzeit von DBM bisher nur mit Brotkrümeln gefüttert wurden, was Bujins Weg zum Verrat an Bojack angeht. Nichtsdestotrotz gefallen mir die wenigen Auftritte der U6 Magical Girls. Sie spielen keine große Rolle und bekommen dementsprechend wenig Screentime, und was wir zu sehen bekommen, verweilt nicht länger als nötig.
DBMultiverse Colors page 420
They're perfect for the YouTube-Series “Villains Too Stupid To Win” haha.
Super Dragon Bros Z page 185
Definitiv eines der desten Dragonball Themes, die es gibt. Die Genkidama hat schon eine bestimmte Bedeutung in der Serie. Die Kamehameha ist natürlich viel ikonischer, wird aber auch inflationär benutzt, wobei sie an Bedeutung verliert, im Bezug auf Wirksamkeit und den Hype. Dagegen ist die Genkidama ein seltenes Event, bei der man jedesmal mitfiebert. Für mich zumindest.
Ich würde mich sehr freuen, wenn das gesamte Kapitel ausschließlich dem Einsatz dieser Technik gewidmet wäre.
Saigo no Son page 120
Ich würde mich sehr freuen, wenn das gesamte Kapitel ausschließlich dem Einsatz dieser Technik gewidmet wäre.
Jetzt stellt euch vor Uub macht sowas in der U0 DBM Arena. Alle unter SSJ3 werden gnadenlos von einem Candybeam-Strahl erwischt. Und der Rest ist mit ausweichen beschäftigt. Echt krass.
DB Multiverse page 2559
Uub has unlocked Instant Heal thanks to ZenBuu (in the previous Uub-Special-Chapter). I'm so sure that the running gag where Uub gets his arm cut off will continue later when he tries to heal himself and his opponent prevents this by chopping off his arm. lol.
I'm glad Uub is serious now. Taking risks means he's going to do something reckless. Uub and Pan never really had to deal with any real problems. They were always protected/supervised by their peers and family. 1 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 2558
I'm glad Uub is serious now. Taking risks means he's going to do something reckless. Uub and Pan never really had to deal with any real problems. They were always protected/supervised by their peers and family. 1 Replie(s)
Es ist irgendwie süß, aber auch naiv von Uub zu glauben, dass alle (aus U18) nach zwei Monaten immer noch in U0 sind und auf seine Rückkehr warten. Sicher, sie würden nicht einfach ohne Uub nach Hause gehen, aber es ist trotzdem eine lustige Vorstellung. Das Turnier selbst dauert nur ein paar Tage, und dann sitzen sie noch zwei Monate lang da, bis Uub aus dem Nichts auftaucht, lol.
Und ein interessantes Detail wie Juna nun Uub mit Meister anspricht.
DB Multiverse page 2557
Und ein interessantes Detail wie Juna nun Uub mit Meister anspricht.
PurpleAqua was saying:
wow, ich gebe zu das tatsächlich vergessen zu haben.
iron leaf sagte: Guter Plan. Schon lustig, wie alle immer Telepathie lernen, sobald es notwendig ist, ha.
Tenshinhan und Chaozu konnten schon telepathisch miteinander sprechen als sie das erste mal im Manga aufgetaucht sind genauso auch der Herr der Kraniche. Bin gespannt ist riskant wenn sowohl Nasu als auch Yamchu ihre Energie in die Genkidama geben. Wenn sie verfehlt sieht es düster aus und Vegeta hat ja auch noch die Option zum Weraffen zu werden.
Tenshinhan und Chaozu konnten schon telepathisch miteinander sprechen als sie das erste mal im Manga aufgetaucht sind genauso auch der Herr der Kraniche. Bin gespannt ist riskant wenn sowohl Nasu als auch Yamchu ihre Energie in die Genkidama geben. Wenn sie verfehlt sieht es düster aus und Vegeta hat ja auch noch die Option zum Weraffen zu werden.
"Just kiss already!"
Haha, Juna macht es Uub wirklich nicht leicht, sich zu konzentrieren. Und zu wissen, dass diese Person deine Gedanken über ihr Aussehen lesen kann, würde einem schüchternen jungen Mann wie Uub wirklich den Rest geben.
DB Multiverse page 2556
Haha, Juna macht es Uub wirklich nicht leicht, sich zu konzentrieren. Und zu wissen, dass diese Person deine Gedanken über ihr Aussehen lesen kann, würde einem schüchternen jungen Mann wie Uub wirklich den Rest geben.
ZenBuu was saying:
wirklich? Interessant, denn ich persönlich finde die Gesichter in Panel 1, 2 und 3 sehen viel schwächer aus, als in den Nahaufnahmen. Naja, jeder hat einen anderen Geschmack wie es scheint.iron leaf sagte: Ah, diese Nahaufnahmen. Die Gesichter sind echt gut gelungen. In Farbe kommt das noch besser zur Geltung.
Witzig, in der italienischen Sektion hat jemand gemeint die Zeichnungen sehen schrecklich aus...
Man merkt halt schon deutlich, dass Gogeta Jr. hier kurz davor war auszusteigen. Wobei diese Seite hier noch geht, finde ich. Homola Gábor hat sich übertroffen damals mit den Energiebändern. Sieht echt genial aus.
Witzig, in der italienischen Sektion hat jemand gemeint die Zeichnungen sehen schrecklich aus...
Man merkt halt schon deutlich, dass Gogeta Jr. hier kurz davor war auszusteigen. Wobei diese Seite hier noch geht, finde ich. Homola Gábor hat sich übertroffen damals mit den Energiebändern. Sieht echt genial aus.
Ja, die Psycho Thread Technick war schon immer einer meiner Lieblingsattacken. Ich finde sie hier in den DBM Colors echt gut präsentiert. Ich wünschte die Hera-Jin Figuren würden diese Attacke sehr viel öfters benutzen.
Physalis sieht richtig gut aus, so als böse Figur. ;)
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Yamoshi Story page 126
Ah, diese Nahaufnahmen. Die Gesichter sind echt gut gelungen. In Farbe kommt das noch besser zur Geltung.
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DBMultiverse Colors page 418
Even back then, I thought Cell's comment was mega epic.
DBMultiverse Colors page 417
Deutsche Eiche was saying:
Baby Trunks ist gerade ein Jahr alt zu Beginn der Cell-Saga. Diese Szene spielt etwa 3 Jahre davor. Also zu früh. Bulma sollte nicht früher als 2 Jahre vor Beginn der Cell-Saga schwanger werden.
Müsste zu der Zeit nicht ca. Trunks gezeigt wurden sein?
i hope trunks gets skewered as well, gotenks may wipe the villains a bit too easily
It's a typical trope (No Endor Holocaust) that hardly anyone gets hurt or even dies in scenes like this.
I think it was a wise decision not to show us, the readers, or Pan what Videl looked like when she died. The image must be graphic, and I suspect DBM doesn't want to overdo it with the gore.
Some people in the community generally think that gore has no place in DB. Videl already had her sad death scene with Majin Cell, where we could see her body on screen.
However, it's true that too much exposure to gore scenes desensitizes you to them. Personally, I don't need to see a spike piercing her body. This is one of those cases where “tell, don't show” is a preferable alternative.
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