Hello everyone

I'm Tanren_kun the artist behind this special chapter. This is the only one i've done so far, and it's really been a fun experience. I'd like to thank Salagir and all the DBM staff, they've been really nice to me.

So yeah, the third chapter of Bojack's adventures (another one! :D) Hopefully this will be a pleasant reading for you guys.

Thank you all, peace~

I don't think it really has? Bardock (OVA only) is thematically connected to Goku and Frieza, helps build up their conflict. The future timeline got one OVA story but in the manga it's a single chapter that barely bothers to show anything (Gohan gets offscreened VERY fast, Trunks gets entirely offscreen). It's really the bare minimum. After that all you get is a few negligible additions like DB Minus which I'd argue don't count.

I understand if it's a matter of which artists (working for free) choose to work on which universe (in their free time). But it also seems to be a lore-driven deliberate writing choice, which I don't think is really paying off.
Personally I don't care about Polar, Snower or whichever Frieza family members were there 20, 50 or 100 years ago. Or knowing about their gang turf wars and which group of bad guys beat the other on planet X875 or something. I care about Frieza because Frieza has a very strong relationship to our cast and kicks off many interesting parts of the plot. Similarly, when it comes to Bojack, people who watched the movie back then didn't care about that movie because they wanted to speculate on what Bojack and his friends did in their pirate lives, they cared because Gohan went SS2 at the end of the movie after a scolding from daddy and it looked rad.

"Compliments only, please!"

Yeah, nah. What a story chooses to focus on is an integral part of a narrative, and is 100% a valid target for criticism. I understand I'll probably get deleted for saying so, but it is the truth. Harry Potter would be a worse story with random cutaway chapters of Dudley doing the weekend shopping that had nothing to do with the rest of the story. And thats what Bojack is. He had one moment of plot relevance in this comic 15 years ago, and has had basically no character development in all the specials since. He's been the same personality-devoid jackets since minute one, and I guarantee this special isn't going to change that.

You cant blame people for getting tired of "generic bad guy does generic bad guys stuff and remains a generic bad guy" over and over.

U13 Vegeta just hit Buu Saga SSJ Goku level yesterday. And 18 Vegeta from 20 years ago has the same base power as current U13 vegeta.

If you cannot see U18 Vegeta’s progress is ahead of U13 vegeta for over 20 years. I have no more words

Training hard for over 20 years since the Buu saga, and still defeated by a Buu saga SSJ3 Goku-level version of himself.

Since Goku's base power equaled Vegeta's in the Buu saga, and U18 Vegeta should be able to fight with his legs, if U18 Vegeta is twice as strong as U13 Vegeta, he should be able to win with just two legs. So Vegeta couldn't even double his base power with over 20 years of training.

The most hated aspect of DBM is that they cap normal Saiyans' maximum potential extremely low.

I don't even care who jumps in to save the day now. U13 Vegeta should be able to dodge Pan's Kienzan/Destructo Disc. U18 Vegeta should be able to deliver a kill move to his counterpart while U13 Vegeta is blocking Pan's attack and trying to fight back.

It's just bad writing.

At the time, I took great pleasure in drawing this chapter. First because its content was fun. And also because it gave Salagir time to look for a new artist to replace Gogeta junior.
A certain Asura, I don’t know if you’ve heard of him....
Another huge bravo and thank you to the color team who did a remarkable job and highlighted my drawings!!!

I always pictured the once we missed are just behind the back of the carpet.
So i guise not... the elder and yound demon/devil that where with Beel and the dragonquest her stayed behind then.
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Really cool cover. Very big fan of Vegeta's family man look here. Not a big fan of Bulma looking quite that elderly though.

U13 Vegeta knows that he gets no bitches

Emmmm, U13 Vegeta's taste on women is a real disgrace for the prince of 3 Saiyans

Amazing job on the colors !!!! O_O :D

Except U0 too, right?

Hi there!
So here's a little bonus for you guys, U7 Gero "Family" !
All these characters are part of story (briefly or mentioned), and they are a mix of official DB characters and new original designs.
Can you guess them all ?

I was wondering, Do Androids 16, 17, and 18 exist in this universe, or have they been destroyed?

So did he still feed them to Cell? He said here that he looks for some androids who weren't behaving lately. 🤔

I do wonder what happened with 17 and 18. I guess we don't know what happened between this universe and trunks' timeline.

Maybe in trunks' timeline, Gero was found after attacking that island off of south city and he felt like he had to activate them. In this timeline Goku would have had no trigger to go SSj, so Gero and his energy stealing models were enough. He probably weighed the risks of their disobedience and destroyed them.

Idk if it's sad or sweet that 16 isn't here though. He modeled his revenge-droid after his son but with no need for revenge (since he thought he killed the son family) no need to make an android modeled after his son.

Dabura is Cell level, and he is actually a good bodyguard.

In addition, the third person from the left is Gero's assistant, whom we saw in a previous U7 Cell-Arc Special (on Page 2432). Apparently, she's an android too.

The blond man who wanna kill them all in one blow..... is he the guy who almost killed Mr. Satan's dog in the universe we know of?

O nome flashback do título
Mas como segunda opção, pode ser as lutas enquanto o vegetto estava ausente (falei isso também no primeiro comentário, tu viu?)

Vegeta is so hardcore and a true saiyan. Of course he wouldn’t take cooler help it would hurt his pride to accept such a offer from frieza family no less. And at this point vegeta evilness should be slowly fading away between the 3 years after namek.
Great art drawing cooler btw I am excited to see his transformation. Maybe we will also get a alternate metal cooler series in the future if cooler somehow survives even if in a badly injured state like frieza.

I don't like using TFS' references, but this TFS quote from Nappa is accurate for this page: link

And who is she?

Nooooo. Just finish the comic. I know there's only a few real chapters left

uh goku weight is only 60 kg... even if hes using "all his weight" doesnt saiyans easily able to fly even in 10x gravity?

... against someone who can fly. Genius move...

Well Raditz can fly too, and yet in most universes his death is caused partly because of the Full Nelson from Goku.

DAMN YOU HINDSIGHT!!!!!

I see you slightly redrew Vegetto’s face in the last panel, it actually looks better this way. A nice little detail.

My bad, but why are there 6 fingers on the left hand?

Ammar was saying: A whole universe got wiped out because a kaioshin helped mortals?
I said multiple times and I will say it again: Zeno is the real villain here.
It was a large-scale breaking of divine laws. Supreme Kais must not interfere with mortal development and affairs. Aiko and her universe were erased because she interacted with mortals on equal footing.

Tygo was saying: So wait... If they need to enchant them to work on mortals, how was the witch able to fuse and form old kai?
Good question. It will never be answered.

Eeeh, fair enough. But iirc Shin was more completely oblivious and powerless, to the point of scared, by the thought of Goku, Vegeta and Gohan being SO MUCH powerful.

As for the "official reason", just because it was Goku speculating and not Elder Kai saying stuff, it's still an explanation given by Toriyama. Yes, DBS screwed it up (and then they made Gogeta being a copy of Vegetto as well) I won't even deny it.

The original/official one, I'd assume.

Also also also, what do you mean Kaioshins are arrogant and think less of the mortals? Where did he get that from? Shin wasn't like that.

Shin wasn't like that. Kibito isn't a Kaioshin. And Elder Kai is a grumpy old man who was locked in a sword for thousands of years so he gets a pass.

Apologies if I overlooked something, but is her name "Juna" or "Anju"?
If it's Juna Anju, I'm cool with that!
Lovely chapter! Our man Uub getting the amazing story he was shafted in cannon. Excited to see what's next!

Now that I think about it... Is Juna really alive? I mean, she was magically created, but is she a living being?
Cause if not, then she shouldn't be affected by IKL's powers (now belonging to XXI and South Kai as well)

And also... she's probably as powerful as Buu in terms of magic... and still stronger than Uub in terms of physical strength (at least, 50 years of training ahead of him). So I'm guessing she's now the new Zen Buu.

ذي أطلق صورة بس ماهي نفس صفحة الأصلية

Was her name always Juna? I could have sworn it was something different.

Her debut name was indeed different: Anju.
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Show it. Don't imply it. One additional panel could show them leaving the ring.

And here's where the little changes break continuity. No way Gohan would go from jumping in to protect Pan to back beside Cell smiling in just seconds.

OH! Very cool idea to use the alternate drawing for a little animation!

Aspetta, c'è una scena aggiuntiva prevista?

Entonces lo de Shokaki embarazada es oficial, y ¿Sucede antes o después del torneo?

Wait, is that the same place as in Kakarott's memories? Does that mean, he helds Krilins skull in his hands?

This is the first time Vegeta feels out of character to me. He usually never threatens his opponents like this.

Oh hey, Videl saved Gohan for once. Also why does this Android seem significantly stronger than the others in that it seems to destroy them in only one blow? Was that mention earlier and I missed it?

He did that to confirm the androids don't just drain through physical contact, it's only through the nodes on their palms. Piccolo pointed out exactly that on the third page you posted. They didn't end up using that info since 17 and 18 were being written in, but it's still an important distinction

Although yeah, no excuse for what he did against Cell

Vegeta would have EASILY won against both, he EMBARASSED android 19 and gero is not even pre kami fusion piccolo level

the sacred ritual of the 1v1 fight in db universe must be maintained. also if gero had chaimed in piccolo would have stopped him

Give Vegeta some credit, he wasn't showing off, he was taking his time to confirm the Androids drain energy specifically through their hands. If he had to fight both at once, he wouldn't have done such a risky tactic

Sure #17 and 18 fight together, but that was only occasional when they feel the 'rules' of their 'game' were violated.

Great artwork for the hybrid Gohan who is what 14 or 15 ?

Gohan is still struggling with the droids This also explains why Gohan didn’t just kill them all when becoming ssj. They were still comparable and far too strong for Gohan to handle by himself. Or rather was it that Gohan has lost stamina rather than them all being stronger ?

あれ？なんか更新早いと思ったら、週4回ペースになるってアナウンスしてるじゃん。
つまり火曜日、木曜日、土曜日、月曜日の午前4時が更新か…
「Next chapters, and 4 pages per week!」って書いてあるのを何度も見てたのに、それに気付けない自分の英語力の無­さが恨めしいよ。

I did always find this to be a cool usage of USSJ.

Although realistically, I don't think Trunks's regular SSJ (which he uses for speed) should be fast enough to keep up with SSJ2 Vegeta. Would be cool if he found a way to exchange his base strength for extra speed, like an inverse-USSJ.

Cosmichero was saying: 仅是剑客 was saying: The Gohan's character is weird, like he didn't know conquer Earth meant he would have to fight against his mother.

I think Gohan blocked out the memories he had on Earth, as a defense mechanism so he could survive in a world where he needed to commit atrocities or die.

He knew where he came from, but his feeling and memories only came back when he heard his mother.

That still doesn't make sense

Gohan couldn't stand his mom (literally asked if he could live with Bulma post Namek) and barely had any bond with his father (by the age of 16 Goku was absent for over 10 years). Both barely knew or cared for Gohan, Chichi was the definition of a tiger mom who made him study 24/7 without caring what he actually wanted and Goku a deadbeat who viewed Gohan as a mini him and again didn't care about his interests (the only actual time they ever spent together was training)

The true parental figure was Piccolo. In every adaptation this is shown and he is the one that effectively raised Gohan to be who he grew into

That never happened here, Nappa took that role and raised him to be a bloodthirsty killer, empathy and emotions are weak and so on.

Nasu doing a 180 like this makes no sense unless he either says he'll do it faster, plans to steal leadership from Vegeta (so be a true saiyan) or just goes full Omniman and says Earth isn't theirs to conquer

Once more, nice contrasting colours.

So XXI is keeping his word about granting a wish for universe 19, I really thought he was gonna screw them over here. Guess it doesn't affect his plans in the long run anyway.

Sixteen millennia of daily training in the Most Ancient and Noble Art of Fingering...

"Children can be so cruel when they sense weakness" - Roger Craig Smith

BangBang was saying: Yeah, pure and innocent, right. It shows.
Kids can be insanely mean specifically because they're pure and have no sense of right or wrong.

It’s been awhile! I’m back for the finale. Just here to pay my respects. This comic and the community was a fun dynamic in the day

I mean, South Kai isn't violating the spirit of the whole fighting tournament.

Ammetto però che non ricordavo fosse incinta, chicca interessante...

Is the girl who's with Trunks in the cover possibly Crystal? Crystal is a character from this ancient fanfic.

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Is she a saiyan or was that a very long day for foreplay?

Will XXI be disqualified? He was a coward

Huh, never knew Trunks was a father in DBM

The writing is in a different font, like they use for flashbacks and the likes, the fight may go on!

هل يوجد اي عرب ؟

why didn't he use it immediately to consume/kill everyone and take the Dragonballs for himself?

Why didn't XXI just kill everyone here with time stop?

Is cheating allowed?

Well I see Raditz is still weak.

Yamcha'll block it most likely. He and Bulma are probably still together.

Wabuffet!

Anyways it looks like the author of this comic captured Bulma during the Namek Saga accurately.

I guess that is Kokonattsu, another member of Apules Species?

How did he originally die

I'm confused......


What's up with this art? When are we going to get back to the main storyline artstyle?

That is some odd choice for a Super Saiyan hair color. Was it this gold before? I mean it looks good, maybe it just doesn't work for me on Kakarot specifically or I'm too fond of the very light yellow.

Disqualify XXI and send him home, since he already demonstrably cheated against Gast.

Outside help is both against the rules and cheating. Not using your own power to gain victory in a tournament is cheating. Not sure why you think it isn't.

It's not like anybody knows of either of those, anyway.

Outside help is against the rules. Just that XXI is crafty enough to avoid getting caught.

"It's not cheating if you never get caught" as the saying goes

XXI has been breaking the rules the entire tournament by using his own set of Dragon Balls to cheat and he's now infecting other universes.

I am probably really really late to the party. But I just now noticed on the page you referenced that Raditz says he can't kill his brother. To which Videl thinks Raditz might have some kind of heart.

But now we know Kakarot is immortal. Raditz was just stating a fact. Good one Salagir. I probably the last one in the room to realize this. But still cool. I wonder if that means Raditz would kill Kakarot if he could?

Thanks to the color Team !!!!
You guys are doing an amazing job !
And you are quite fast too !!! :)