Falls das schon jemand gesagt hat oder Salagir einen offiziellen Namen für diese Form hat lasst es mich gerne wissen.

Früher ging dass noch schön ohne Registrierung. Da waren soviel mehr Kommentare, aber leider auch so viel mehr Moderationsaufwand...

Naja vielleicht muss ich meinen Rechner ja mal ne Weile nicht ersetzen/erneuern und bleibe eingeloggt...

Was that U16 Gohan?

Maaaaaan! Es ist so spannend ich will schon denn nächsten Chapter.

Ik he had to try it, but did he really watch Goku vs Vegeta and still think "Yeah this the move ????"? Knowing how fast that form is ???????? and even agreed to give him time to use NSSJ at that

Dumno why he didn't try against gast

He has to break out in 0.08 seconds!

By the time Trunks spoke that line, the time was already up several times over.

CompactCoven was saying: So what?Against an opponent such as U5 XXI who is made of a magical smoke and can cover the arena with that magical smoke, not being able to locate his ki signature makes him dangerous.

I love the idea that no one cares about Uub, he just vanished and 0 ducks were given by everyone from his universe. Just shows how pathetic his character is, finally, never liked him

Does anyone remember the sound effect that was displayed when Vegetto was teleported? Probably a good indicator as to what exactly happened here.

0.08 seconds? so as soon as he got sent in, he should have broken out immediately then. Like as soon as Trunks said it.

XXI didn't even spoke a spell. I think Goku is just to fast and is standing behind XXI

Die Gesichter sind echt genial. Die kommen mir aber irgendwo her bekannt vor ?

Ammar was saying: FishNChips was saying: Yamcha'll block it most likely. He and Bulma are probably still together.
Him and Bulma have a child.

Really?! I'm guessing the name is Trunks. Pretty cool

Oh 'ne oder? Yamchu wird jetzt aber nicht ge-Yamchu'd, oder? Heroisch aber passt auch zu ihm das er niemals einen etwas wichtigeren Kampf gewinnen darf.

Nein, leute macht nicht sowas warum wollt Ihr Yamchu hier auch blöd aussehen lassen?

ZenBuu was saying: kingworld was saying: ZenBuu was saying: kingworld was saying: The Italian dialogues, which are the originals, are so much better for this page:
"I managed to develop this form because my body surpassed its limits, thus this innate characteristic I have resonated with all the elements..."
"What was missing was a real danger: that's why I left you transform into Rosé. I needed a trigger, a real threat to trigger the form."
But the Italian version isn't the original though? It's the French version afaik, that's also why the pages get exported correctly there and not here in English. Even though the English version is completely uploaded somewhere else.

So basically some Italian translator made all that up? Though I gotta say, it does make more sense, but I also always say: respect the source material. Because the dialogue you sent is much different, than what we have here (and also on all other languages which this comic is translated into, so Italian is the exception).

I could be completely wrong, but Chibi Dam'Z is from France, I don't know about Mirai Channel95. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm almost entirely sure Mirai Channel 95 Is Italian. In the Italian section, they themselves commented more than once on how they edited multiple dialogues to make them clearer.
Thanks for this info. I guess I need to rely on the Italian version while translating then, instead of French. I just wish I would've known this earlier, now I have to revisit every page that was already released again...
There's an English version of this story already, too, on the author's DeviantArt. I should have the whole story downloaded

ZenBuu was saying: kingworld was saying: The Italian dialogues, which are the originals, are so much better for this page:
"I managed to develop this form because my body surpassed its limits, thus this innate characteristic I have resonated with all the elements..."
"What was missing was a real danger: that's why I left you transform into Rosé. I needed a trigger, a real threat to trigger the form."
But the Italian version isn't the original though? It's the French version afaik, that's also why the pages get exported correctly there and not here in English. Even though the English version is completely uploaded somewhere else.

So basically some Italian translator made all that up? Though I gotta say, it does make more sense, but I also always say: respect the source material. Because the dialogue you sent is much different, than what we have here (and also on all other languages which this comic is translated into, so Italian is the exception).

I could be completely wrong, but Chibi Dam'Z is from France, I don't know about Mirai Channel95. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm almost entirely sure Mirai Channel 95 Is Italian. In the Italian section, they themselves commented more than once on how they edited multiple dialogues to make them clearer.

Warum sehen die Zuschauer so gelangweilt aus?

Ist lustig aber ich hätte mich eher auf die Fortsetzung gefreut, wie dass nächste Chapter ist aber das ist auch cool.

I mean, it can just be a simple as putting a notice that the next page will be a minicomic. There's other cases where minicomics are mentioned beforehand, which just prevents confusion

Would be nice for new minicomics to get mentioned in the news section. Can be confusing for a bit when no new page drops

Mirai_Goku escribió: Vaya bajón de Gogeta Jr aquí.
Pues, en teoría, es también de Gogeta Jr... al menos eso dice en la página original.
Aquí ponen como si Argelios y Homóla Gabor hubieran hecho tanto el dibujado como el coloreado.
Aunque supongo que es posible entenderlo así si lo han "redibujado", pero aun así me parece raro que no haya un reconocimiento al dibujante original.

Teniendo en cuenta que gran parte de su cuerpo es azul/morado no es de extrañar que sus labios superiores sean también morados xDDDD

The Italian dialogues, which are the originals, are so much better for this page:
"I managed to develop this form because my body surpassed its limits, thus this innate characteristic I have resonated with all the elements..."
"What was missing was a real danger: that's why I left you transform into Rosé. I needed a trigger, a real threat to trigger the form."

Una volta su internet da qualche parte avevo ascoltato la melodia che suona Bu. Ma adesso non riesco più a trovarla.

Znowu te czerwone szminki, niech ktoś im powie że to jest błąd.

Mal unabhängig von allen Theorien:

Goku und vegeta waren doch so schnell im Kampf, dass viele gar nichts mitbekommen haben.

Eigentlich muss er doch jetzt direkt nach dem Boden berühren ihn einfach raustreten, so schnell kann der doch gar keine zauberformel oder so aufsagen.

Aber ich weiß selbst dass das nicht passieren wird, wäre zu kurz :D

ZenBuu sagte: Ryu sagte: Valtsia30 sagte: XXI wird gewinnen und danach wirds ein risiges Chaos geben!

Also anders rum würde deine Theorie deutlich mehr Sinn ergeben
Das musst du mir bitte mal erklären?!

Wenn XXI gewinnt hat er zwei Wünsche frei (den ersten hat er ja offiziell abgegeben) und hat sein Ziel also erreicht, gewinnt aber Goku muss XXI handeln, das zweite Szenario hat doch ein viel höheres Potenzial alles ins Chaos zu stürzen.
XXI hat tatsächlich nur den einen Wunsch, den wir Leser bereits kennen nötig, das einzige was noch passieren kann ist dass die Organisatoren den Wunsch nicht akzeptieren, das wäre aber etwas inkonsequent, da es immer hieß man könne sich alles wünschen was man will

MUI was saying: Nice page! Does someone has a indication how strong Goku is here in his SSJ0? Still weaker then Ultimate Gohan? Or can he even defeat SSJ2 Bra?
So far, "normal super saiyan" feels like having ssj3 power without the drawbacks. I believe goku and vegeta are still inferior to gohan in terms of raw power but make up for it with experience and techniques. If goku were to fight ssj2 bra now, it would probably be a high diff fight with bra winning, since she now knows the form and should be able to keep up with it.

Is it really called SSJ0 or Ultimate Goku?

supersaiyan2kakarot was saying: I believe goku and vegeta are still inferior to gohan in terms of raw power

No freaking way.

Gohan himself said that Cell was probably stronger than he was, and Vegeta beat Cell without even tapping into this form.

Goku and Vegeta have far surprassed Gohan now. Hell, they even make Vegetto jealous. That's real power.

I think it was 2014 when I started reading DBM. So cool to finally be at the end...!

Valtsia30 sagte: XXI wird gewinnen und danach wirds ein risiges Chaos geben!

Also anders rum würde deine Theorie deutlich mehr Sinn ergeben

Danke für das Zurücksetzen des Passworts.
Und vielen Dank für diese großartige Arbeit. Freu mich sehnlichst auf das Finale. Verfolge DbM seit Urzeiten. Find euch richtig Klasse, und bin gespannt wie das hier ausgeht.
Danke ans Team.
Danke für die Klasse Zeit.

CompactCoven was saying: Justanotherturtle was saying: If Vegeta chooses not to capitalise on a very blatant opening his opponent leaves him in the middle of a fight, that's not respect, that's pity. Are you telling me Vegeta's character development means he now pities Goku? It's almost like he's saying, "I don't even need to exploit his blatant openings because I am so much better."
It's not pity, it's not stupidity, it's Vegeta wanting to have a good fight with Goku where they both give it their all at %100
As soon as they were powered up and were fighting, they were perfectly willing to fight tricky and exploit openings, but that's once they're both ready. Beating Goku by ambushing him before either of them can transform to their best state wouldn't give him any chance to push himself against an equal opponent

The only reason he would ever decide to just try to blitz Goku like that is if he spontaneously decided winning a random tournament (with a prize of dragonballs, that nobody from their universe needs) is more important than improving himself against his longtime rival.
You can't just try to insult the writer for not removing all motivation and nuance from these characters and turning them into emotionless sacks of meat with ki every time they step into the arena (Which is where a LOT of critique comes from in the comments I see, especially when it comes to out-of-arena interactions)

Question is why didn't vegeta use this form against cell lol

Cell also wanted a good fight and would be willing to let vegeta transform

Or even better, he could've just transformed in u18 area before entering the ring

Yeah, the art has been phenomenal in this story. I would love a DBM special from the artist if there hasn't been one already.

¿El color del traje de entrenamiento de Bra es basado en la novela o de alguna otra parte o fue decisión de los dibujantes? Es que no ubico/recuerdo si en alguna parte del comic o la novela describieron sus colores

Ich kann mich mit dem dunkel-lila Oberteil nicht anfreunden. Es ist nicht schlecht, allerdings stört es mich ein wenig. Hoffentlich kann ich mich daran gewöhnen. Die alternativen Farben, die das Team mal gezeigt hat, sind nicht besser. Dennoch glaube ich, dass ein türkises Oberteil besser wäre. Genug genörgelt. Super Seite, vorallem die Son Bra Nahaufnahmen sind in Farbe gut geworden.

This has me wonder: what's the limit on the "cloth beam" of Piccolo? Could he materialize a 10^1000 tons cloth on someone, possibly squashing even the Vegetto?
Maybe such a massive cloth that turns into a black hole, thus killing anyone but U20 Broly?
Could he create a poisonous cloth that instantly kills the wearer, or an antimatter one, that annihilates the opponent?

Moro; Moro clone; Moro is a XXL clone; before DBS; ideas for DBS;
Moro is the clone; most of his DBS ideas; the Moro arc; one of my DBS fanfics; Granolah the Survivor

Vegeta had previously shown he was willing to fight dirty to win when he beat Cell by fighting dirty and loudly proclaiming he is willing to fight dirty to win. He didn't do it against Goku because he's an idiot. Goku wasn't on guard against that because he too is an idiot. Salagir doesn't know how to write combat geniuses.

WhaaaT no they are awesome inclusions.

Ooooh!! Smart of Goku to wait before touching the ring here, and glad to see the 2 best recurring spectators show up as well!

Hmm, interesting that the shoes change too in the colored version

Na gut. Ich werde niemals eine direkte Antwort kriegen. Hoffentlich werde ich nicht für einen Regelverstoß gebannt von dem ich keine Ahnung habe, was genau dieser sein soll.

We're not reaching the end of the Multiverse saga after all these years are we? Does anyone know a time-frame Salagir and company had in mind?

I can't believe we are finally here...



The tournament started way back in 17 August 2008.

Was ist mit Raditz in diesem Szenario? Er ist definitiv schwächer als Nappa in diesem Kampf. Könnte man Raditz 'nocht' mit der Mafuba versiegeln?

I guess that is Kokonattsu, another member of Apules Species?

ZenBuu was saying: Bad Luck was saying: so mad she’s breaking translation
What's wrong with the translation here? If you leave such a comment, then at least say where exactly the issue is, please.

Maybe he might have meant breaking the 4th wall?
Either that or in reference to "Bulma"s character talking really weirdly, as if not an english speaker. Both of her speech bubbles could have used english idioms that would have worked instead of the clunky way they were phrased. (only reason I'm even mentioning it is because you asked)

"hey, the ugly" for one, I'd imagine "hey ugly" or "hey uggo", or even something like "listen here, you ugly X [insert insulting noun]" (I dunno if cursing is okay here, but if so, in english, I'd imagine using "fucker", "cunt" "piece of shit" or "sack of crap" might be an appropriate insulting term, given the situation and context)

"you dream in colors and stereo surround" - in english this would probably be "you must be dreaming" or "keep on dreaming". Or even "you might want to wake up and smell the roses" to use an older way of phrasing it

"It's disgusting! I am in great sorrow and everyone takes the opportunity to pounce on me" - this one is the major one that doesn't work in english (even if you can generally understand what she's saying).
— "It's disgusting!" in english is generally going to be "this sucks", although there are other ways to phrase it too.
— "I am in great sorrow" - Maybe phrased as "I'm pissed off"?
— "everyone is taking the opportunity to pounce on me" - assuming I'm understanding this one correctly, it'd make more sense in english to say "everyone is picking on me"
— also, assuming the above is correct, you'd want to switch around the order of my final 2 points, meaning you might say "everyone is picking on me and it's pissing me off!"

Sayazur was saying: hussam 1233 was saying: The final chapter? Is this the end? Wow, I remember when I watched the first video about these comics, it was in 2016.
Not the final chapter, it's the final of the tournament

spoilers XD

also hype af

so mad she’s breaking translation

Ich bin ein kleines bisschen enttäuscht. Warum wurde der Himmel nicht in denselben Farben koloriert wie auf Seite 1313 vom Hauptcomic? Das U8 Spezial-Kalpitel behandelt exakt dieselbe Szene, lediglich aus einem anderem Winkel. Ich kann verstehen, wenn man die Trümmerhaufen im Hintergrund anders koloriert, weil sie im Kapitel 57 anders gezeichnet sind, etc. Der Himmel dagegen, da hatte ich eigentlich erwartet dieselben Faben zu sehen. Keine Kritik am Stil, sondern eben die Auswahl der Farben.

He must have done it wrong, vegeta ssb was captured by roshis in the tournament of power

Kaiser1710 sagte: Ich frage mich warum es nicht funktioniert hat vielleicht ist die Willenskraft zu niedrig oder so?
Nappa war zu stark. Er hat es mit reiner KI Konzentration gesprengt. Chaotzu ist einfach zu schwach verglichen mit dem Ziel auf das er das Mafuba angewandt hat.
Selbes Prinzip wie in der Hauptstory.
Das Mafuba ist auch eine sehr magische Technik.
Aber mit genug KI kann man realitätsalternde Effekte einfach zerbrechen.
Hat Gohan mit Babibdi's Taschendimension gemacht, in der Hauptstory. https://w...451.html#h_read
Auch wenn diese Seite nur eine Vision von Bardock gewesen ist, dies ist am Ende dennoch passiert.

Vegetto brach auch aus XXI's Dimension aus nur durch KI.
Aber XXI war schlau und hat gleichzeitig die Zeit vorgespuhlt, damit Vegetto trotzdem verliert.
Gleiches Prinzip.

Naja, die Menschen waren im anime während der Namek Zeit genauso stark wie das ginyu Kommando und die waren wesentlich stärker als vegeta hier und es war wesentlich weniger Zeit.

So yeah, Chaozu should survive and as long as the seal is there any container should work

U9 were one of the cooler universes that overall felt pretty underused. It'd be one thing if they had been highly used up to now. But they really haven't. Yamcha had his cool moment, but that's kind of it.

Irgendwie fällt die Mainstory wieder aus dem Auge und das Turnier neigt sich nicht dem Ende zu ich hab das Gefühl das mit diesen Sidestorys nicht nur Einblicke sondern auch Zeit geschindet wird.. Ich will endlich den großen Clash und das Finale dieses großartigen Mangas sehen und nicht 1000 Nebenquests in denen jedesmal ein anderer Zeichenstiel verwendet wird.

Die guten Pflanzen, da ist wohl was bei der Übersetzung falsch abgebogen oder jemand hat währenddessen auch Pflanzen genossen :D

So I guess the translator misread the original French word "plats" (= "dishes") as "plants"

Also die Menschen müssen ja nochmal zurück kommen damit Yanchu fragen kann ob er der stärkste in allen Universen ist.

In the original version these flashback memories were greyed out, i think it would have been apropriate if the colored version had a filter over it.

Ich mag den Grauton im generellen Hintergrund in der Szene mit Buu und Freezer. Als würde man darauf hindeuten, dass es keine natürliche Lichtquelle in dieser Situation vorhanden sei.

Ich finde dass es in der Farbigen Version einen viel stärkeren Eindruck hinterlässt. Respekt an die Mitarbeiter und vor allem ist dass hier alles Kostenlos wirklich ich kann nichts anderes sagen außer danke und fetten Respekt.

omg i love that duo of those two audience members (someone pls tell me their names!!)

ZenBuu sagte:

Wir sollten in Zukunft Kapitel 100 besser ignorieren. Salagir hat auf Discord selber zugegeben, dass es komplett inkonsistent war vom Power Scaling. Dazu kommt auch noch ein kurzer Kommentar auf Seite 2499.

Das war klar. War überrascht das Vegeta doch so sehr auf Mystic level war PLUS Fusion. Machte keinen Sinn.

Wie kommt man in den Discord rein?

Ich verstehe bis heute die Blockade nicht, die der lte Kaioshinn in Radditz eingebaut haben soll. Das wird ja auch immer wieder in der englischen Community erwähnt. Was für eine Blockade ist gemeint? Kann mich bitte jemand aufklären?

Ich habs ja beim letzten post gesagt: radditz ist ne nullnummer.

...

Klar es war nur ein gedanke, aber der elder ist gut im kräfte schätzen.

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PGV 2 ha detto: boh ha detto: Quindi non li colorano i capitoli special ma solo la trama principale?

Sì, solo trama principale e Flashback...

Quindi gli special, senza contare quelli già colorati, rimarranno sempre in bianco e nero... oppure verrà fatta una cosa apparte? Mi piacerebbe tanto vedere lo special dell'universo 3 sul grande re demone piccolo!

The colorization adds so much detail. I love it. I could be wrong, but it looks like 18 is slightly blushing as Yamcha waves to her. Something you can't notice (or wasn't present) in the original page. Or I could just be seeing it wrong.

cute if so though. I love the small detail.

No tu przyznam, że mi się bardziej podobała okłada 24 rozdziału z ,,Noc wypoczynku''. Goku smacznie śpi z Uubem i wnuczką, gdy tutaj niecny Nappa w czasach z włosami [*] bawi się fotelem szefa. :p

No.. nie chciałem narzekać ale też mi się bardziej podobała oryginalna okładka. No cóż.
Jakoś tak swojsko rodzinnie, niewinnie wszyscy sobie śpią smacznie w jednym wielkim łóżku (na glebie chyba, po japońsku).

Ahhh no illustrations? :(

Ihr liebt Nappa, nicht wahr xD?

200 actively contributing or an overall contribution from the years amounting to 200?

I don’t recall seeing a list of who is part of the association, aside from translators, artists and mods (some having dual roles) that dosen’t equate to that large number.

Domanda, i Capitoli Flashback li colorerete?

Intendo quelli dei combattimenti svoltisi durante l'assenza di Vegeth (e magari anche quelli che stiamo vedendo adesso).

PGV 2 ha detto: Fine dei Trentaduesimi di Finale anche qui...
Secondo me in 1 anno il manga a colori arriverà in pari con il manga classico, da lì secondo me cominceranno a colorare anche gli special

NEIN SADARA, NICHT DER DAUMEN!

Do you guys think that Goku and Vegeta will use ui and ue in this story even ss4 at all or will they not use it ?

Ich finds irgendwie doof, dass xxi der endboss ist, während das ganze Turnier buu dafür aufgebaut wurde und dann einfach so verschwunden ist :(

Wo ist XXI überhaupt aufgegabelt worden, wenn er sein Uni verschlungen haben soll?

XXI hat doch bereits Universen verschlungen?!

Ach natürlich. Freezer & Co. werden auch bei der Verschwörung miteinbezogen. Man braucht ja Kanonenfutter für die Guten zum k.o. schlagen. xD

Wundert es niemanden wie er sagt, dass Raditz die anderen "in diesem Moment" hintergeht, aber gleichzeitig ein Bild zeigt wie die beiden erledigt sind? Will er die anderen provozieren damit sie ihn angreifen, weil deren Tod dann als Notwehr zählt? Wird er dann trotzdem rausgeschmissen? Und was sollte das bringen? Die können ihm doch eh nichts anhaben oder? Vielleicht hat er mit dieser Illusion auch Vegetto getäuscht?

Kollege die schwarze bohne war alles aber nicht hundertmal Dichter als eine normale senzu bohne. Wie zum Teufel soll Vegetto nicht bei voller Kraft sein, ich glaube kaum dass er 100 senzus braucht um bei voller Kraft zu sein.

Und was in anderen Kommentarbereichen bereits erwähnt wurde. Gast hat in Panel 3 und Panel 6 andersfarbige Schuhe an. Das sollte glaube ich nicht so sein. Genug genörgelt. Es ist größtenteils natürlich super gut geworden. Dank geht raus an die Coloristen.

rlly nice coloring, but why did gast's shoes change color?

Personally, I think the Old Kai should just sneak into the control room and surreptitiously sent XXI back to his own universe. He's an old man, so I doubt the control team would give him much attention.

Facepalm Cella najlepszy xDDD

i znikające co i rusz okulary Gohana to już nowy wymiar błędu ciągłości ki ki ki

Do like the color on the smaller panels to expression what those characters are thinking. Also, still dig the cosmic background. Add more life to the setting.

Das wird jetzt wieder als Blasphemie gewertet, aber irgendwie bekommt XXI immer mehr Parallelen zu Moro, gefällt mir eher weniger… und nein, ich unterstelle damit nichts, mir ist bewusst dass diese Story schon seit Jahren in salagirs Kopf existiert, das gibt mir nur diesen kenne ich irgendwo her vibe

kingworld was saying: Most of the comments here makes me worried for when I'll soon start publishing my own story online chapter by chapter...

I don't know if your story will be an e-novel or a comic or what but some advice? The whole releasing a page per weekday/three pages weekly format most webcomics take isn't good for the audience. If this is just a cold opening literary tool then no one would be upset had it been released as part of a five to ten page update. Everyone would have known what they were doing because instead of commenting they would have had a "next page" button to press that would have contextualized the artistic choice here.

I took a long break from DBM but when I came back and was reading through everything it is like those issues just evaporated. In fact, the reason I took that break wouldn't have happened at all because within a few pages the thing that bothered me was fleshed out better.

It also reminds me of the MSpaint Adventures 'comic', people would get really mad at Hussie for taking forever to make updates, but when he did he did in big blocks. Because you could figure out what he was going with something pretty quick these kind of things didn't happen.

If you release them in full fleshed out chapters with a beginning and an end you shouldn't have to worry about this hitting you too hard. Though if you leave people on cliff hangers between chapters too often they might still get testy but I think it is a better alternative than the sort of reactions you'd get from a single page at a time.

Das ist die erste Seite des Kapitels. Keine Sorge, das ist kein Fehler oder so.

Was this the original wish that XXI was going to make to ensure his victory? That being said,does that mean this is somewhat a spoiler that XXI does indeed win from his wish before all chaos breaks out? (I personally don't care if it is a spoiler)

Wieso kam gestern keine Seite?

Ich checks nicht, auf der letzten Seite tötet er trunks und jetzt ist nichts passiert? Ist das eine Rückblende gewesen wie der trunks aus dieser zeitlinie gestorben ist oder wie?

Anyway I would guess Gero's Androids are weaker than 17/18 but stronger than 19 (Or have the capacity to be due to absorption). Probably like Super Vegeta tier since Gohan can't actually beat them but seems close.

So I would guess this Cell is probably... Semi Cell tier maybe (two weaker Androids isn't that much of a factor but no Frost Demon DNA probably is) but still has the ability to absorb, maybe bridging the gap to our Cell if he can get the right target (like literally the one he's fighting)

This edgy OC has more detail than most of the comic. Insane.

his tail loosened up! interesting

I feel like the moderation needs to be a bit stricter on how criticism is delivered so this sort of thing just doesn't happen again

Wow... He is huge in that frame!