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Jewbacca 11 December
Given Gero's ability to make all those androids i find it strange that he went perosnally into danger. 1 Replie(s)
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Jewbacca 5 December
I was quite sure, that Videl will die. Considering, that she was not on the tournament.
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Jewbacca 24 November
He temporarily reduced his protection aura to himself only, then simply moved them away from each other.
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Jewbacca 6 November
Next page they switch pages.
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Jewbacca 22 October
Your nickel was saying:
Well, it sure is lucky none of the warriors died from the spikes while they were in a glass-like state


This is done by XXI, and he wants to feed on their power. The civilians are most likely worthless to him, or have too little value to care.
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Jewbacca 22 October
Vegeta is going to be PISSED.
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Jewbacca 10 October
I presume the next chapter will be a bit of a rollback like with Vegetto when he got teleported. Explaining how things went to this.
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Jewbacca 4 October
仅是剑客 was saying:
Their power difference should be larger than Goku (400) and Raditz (1500) at the start of Z. Uub shouldn't be able to hold her tight enough to not able to escape.


That is what the massive Kaioken for. If Goku had a times 20 against Raditz, then he could have onehit him. In here i think Uub is using a much stronger one. Closer to times 100, or 1000. 1 Replie(s)
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Jewbacca 3 October
I think the idea is to send 2 sets. One to turn them into candy, and the next is meant to restore at least Uub. Or both. If the goal is to turn her, then he succeeded. Even, if she goes back with the second set.
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Jewbacca 1 October
I was thinking in the past about the idea of a super kaioken. Making extremely powerful for a super short time. A single attack of extreme power. Not good for a group fight, or if more attackers expected, but could win a hard 1v1 battle.
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Jewbacca 25 September
I wonder how she would react, if Uub were pointing out, that Buu dissappeared, and might need to be rescued.
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Jewbacca 13 September
I have a feeling, that he might be the one saving the day when he gets out.
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Jewbacca 21 July
The point of the distraction is so that he can make the wish directly. Instead of relying on the locals who might deny it.
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Jewbacca 4 July
Remember, that he wished something from his dragon? I think he wished for IKL's time stop ability.
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Jewbacca 25 June
Lucas was saying:
If Goku is willing to give all his wishes away, then couldn't XXI just ask him to give one of them to him? I feel that's a bit of a weird plot point, as it makes the stakes in this fight for XXI a lot lower if, even if he loses, he can still ask Goku for a wish.

Kinda renders the whole getting the villains on his side plot unnecessary too. Unless I'm missing something here.


I think that was a plan B now turned into plan C. He was not aware of this until this very moment. Now the plan A is to win. Plan B is to ask for one wish, and plan C is to use the villains.
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Jewbacca 25 June
Considering, that Goku is there for the fight, and not the wishes XXI doesn't really have to win. He just need to convince Goku, that his wish is not bad, and then ask for it. I presume his wish is the ability to travel the multiverse. With that power he has infinite potential food. Also all his allies has infinite universes to visit, and get dragon balls from. Ergo infinite wishes.
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Jewbacca 3 June
Raditz will deal with Vegeta, and Nappa. Then Kakarot will make sure the slaves are in line. And Raditz can keep him in line as well.
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Jewbacca 23 May
Joey21 was saying:
Curious to see how he’ll convince Babidi and Cell


Babidi is already gone. For Cell i am not certain he can. Maybe promising an infinite number of potential enemies to face against. The thing about his plan is, that by having infinite universes there is also infinite resource. Everyone can get what they want for as long as they want something.
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Jewbacca 4 May
Pinball was saying:
Old Kai should be getting the officials attention. This would disqualify XXI and get him killed from the tournament.


He didn't attacked Vegetto, and they can visit each other. I think if Vegetto tells XXI to leave, then he has to leave, but otherwise he has not yet broke any rules.
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Jewbacca 4 May
That last panel could mean 3 things in my opinion.
1. Vegetto is indeed becoming weaker due lack of food, and the recovery from IKL.
2. Vegetto's lack of knowledge in magical stuff, and how to counter them. For many years he had no real challenge, and as such he had no reason to become more skilled, or learn new stuff.
3. Simply to rile up into attacking XXI. He took that loss badly, and i am certain that he is eager for a rematch. The same tactic won't work again, because he would just escape in miliseconds. Instead of waiting for the last second for his grand re-entry.
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Jewbacca 6 April
Gohan should die though. Considering, that he is not on the tournament. 2 Replie(s)
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Jewbacca 10 March
iron leaf was saying:
Smokescreen. How can that really help? At most, it gives them a 10-second head start. Sure, distraction so that Gast can do something. Even if the overarching plan is successful, this seems like a suicide mission for the humans.


I think they play on the androids sadistic nature to play around instead of going full on massacre.
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Jewbacca 3 March
My best bet is the wish is meant to weaken Goku in some way.
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Jewbacca 3 February 2025
Universe 10 has gone home. So either someone is using their place, or the writer put the wrong number. As for his promise. I believe he told the truth. It looks like this guy want to eat everyone, and if his wish is to be able to travel the multiverse, then saving one is not a bad thing. After all carbonite is not alive.
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Jewbacca 1 February 2025
Funniest part. It is in XXI's interest to fulfil that wish.
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Jewbacca 30 January 2025
I don't see why XXI is so damn upset. Goku is powerful, but also kind of dumb when it comes to tricks, and magic. Something that is a speciality of XXI. Up to this point he won all fights in less than a minute. And once he has his wish he can probably go around to devour more, if not use the wish to outright do so. I wonder what wish he wants to actually make. If he wants to travel the multiverse, then he might even want to give the wish to the Heliotas. As he seems to be interested in eating the living so if their universe is full of carbonite, that is not a good feast.
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Jewbacca 24 January 2025
What's the issue? He already consumed his entire universe. I fail to see how Gast could matter so much.

happywarrior99 was saying:
The last panel shows two Gasts, one who is undamaged and one who is a charred corpse. Did Gast regenerated from his cut legs?


No i think the other one is just a random namek, or Piccolo. 1 Replie(s)
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Jewbacca 24 January 2025
Lionskull was saying:
Upsz... Na, ez több szempontból érdekes fordulat. Egyrészt egy olyan sejthető dolog, mint a kollektív namek tudat eljött, más rész XXI most bajban lehet: Vagy azért mert nem eheti meg Gastot és nem tud elég erőt gyűjteni a döntőre, vagy kijelenti hogy Gast beolvasztása már visszafordíthatatlan, amiért meg kizárják, mert azután tette meg, hogy feladta. Én arra tippelek, hogy valami ilyesmi van mint a második lehetőség és szépen kizárják.


XXI nem használt túl sok erőt eddig. Gast volt az első ahol erőt kellet bevetnie. Szerintem szimplán elengedi Gastot, és utána kér egy szünetet. Ami teljesen érthető figyelembe véve, hogy a döntő következik. Elvileg XXI beolvasztotta az egész univerzumát így Gast nem hiszem, hogy sokat jelent. Gokut sem puszta erővel fogja támadni először. Szerintem megpróbál valami trükköt bevetni mint eddig mindenki más ellen.
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Jewbacca 24 January 2025
I think XXI will stop the attack as he has no desire to be sent home. And Gast has little meaning, if he already consumed his entire universe.
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Jewbacca 18 September 2024
Gast knows that going all out against Janemba is pointless. He has to attack XXI somehow. I think he lacks speed because his mind is working primarily.
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Jewbacca 28 August 2024
I think, that XXI is an old wizard, and the other one is this black mist enslaved by XXI. Up to this point XXI was able to win using it's knowledge, and once it's power. But now it denied the answer to defeat Gast so XXI takes the gamble of freeing it. He knows, that if there is any way to win, then the entity will do it once freed. The question is. Will XXI be able to re-enslave it, if it wins.
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Jewbacca 25 August 2024
Undoing Gast's fusion would be the best bet for XXI. Not just making him weaker, but eliminate his reason to fight at all. Gast's primary objective is to use the dragon balls to unfuse himself, if XXI do it for him, then he has no reason to remain, and risk getting himself, and his people killed.
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Jewbacca 10 August 2024
Vegeta's energy is running out. Also we aren't sure, if Raditz truly weaker at all. Remember, that the old Kai wanted him to go against XXI, and not Vegeta. He could have just lied to trick him into the fusion. I would not say, that the brothers bound to lose yet. If Kakarot can take the hits first, and make Vegeta run out of energy, then Raditz likely can finish the job. And considering, that Kakarot is immortal it makes perfect sense for him to go frontline.
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Jewbacca 22 July 2024
The button malfunctioned previously, because of Zen Buu. Without him it should work. So either U13 going home, or Elder Kai prevent pressing it. Though i don't know how he will turn Kakaraditz on XXI. I mean without others trying to stop hi like Yamcha did to IKL.
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Jewbacca 6 July 2024
I think the old kai is lying to trick Raditz into the fusion. Remember, that he wants XXI destroyed at ANY cost. If Raditz became brutally powerful, then all he needs now is control over him. And a fusion might do the trick.
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Jewbacca 24 April 2024
The cyborgs didn't won in U12. 1 Replie(s)
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Jewbacca 2 April 2024
Remember. That universe beaten the saiyans, and the frost demons as well. If i were write the story, then after Raditz's attack Dr. Gero, and Bulma would have worked together to create the androids. And when Vegeta died they would have improved the plans to make Yamcha strong enough to beat King Cold at the very least.
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Jewbacca 25 March 2024
I think, that his time stop needs to be maintained. It is not a fire, and forget, but more like a power he has to maintain, and thus lose some of his own power while doing it. The reason why he seems to be this weak is, because he cannot go full power without letting the time flow, and if he does that, then others will join the fray, and he is doomed. Bra would most likely erase him in miliseconds after what he has done to Vegetto.
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Jewbacca 3 March 2024
Vegetto most likely will be brought back with the dragon balls, and he will be PISSED. He was defeated twice already, and now actually killed. And the worst part. Every single one came from hesitation. He could have crushed IKL before he could stop time, but he wanted to see what he will do. He could have crushed XXI, but he wanted to see what he will do. So in his eyes the solution might be not wasting time anymore. No waiting for opponent to do anything.

As for how IKL gets defeated. I don't think, that 16 can destroy him, but i think, that this time stop either not last forever, or needed to be maintained. If runs out, or 16 can stop it, then the rest can deal with this guy.

Alternatively i can see the Varga's winning this. They have a ship away to check on stuff periodically. If the ship comes back, then an automated system might notice, that there is no response, and check what is going on. Then send IKL home, and shows over.

My personal favorite would be XXI interfering. Showing, that IKL would not be stopped by anyone else, and forcing his hand to stop this so, that he can win the tournament.
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Jewbacca 28 February 2024
He had a point, but i don't think, that he can win this. Okay stop time for now, and maybe even kill them all. But remember, that the Varga ships come to check every 10, or 5 minutes? While time stopped that ship also delayed. Once it comes back it can press the big red button, and send IKL home. Then just use a set of dragonbals, and revive everyone.

Not to mention, that there are a number of powerful magic users like Ghast, and XXI. They might recognize this, and counter it somehow.

Last but not least Uub is in the pocket realm. He might simply be immune to it, because of that, and more importantly pretty much nobody knows he is there, and who knows how much power, and knowledge he will have once he gets out.
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Jewbacca 23 December 2023
For once i agree with Bojack. He was a fool to make all those plans, and speeches. They know, that Bojack is an ahole, and they also know, that he is strong. Just let him fight the frost demons. Things aren't going to get worse regardless of the outcome. 2 Replie(s)
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Jewbacca 21 November 2023
U18 Vegetto is wrong. They had one more opponent. Each other.
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Jewbacca 21 November 2023
szupernamek was saying:
@Pip25
Akkor ott buu ellen nem volt alternatívája vegitonak, szükség volt rá. Az egy másik kérdés, hogy a fejlődőképessége esetleg gyengült a fuzio miatt. Minden technikának megvan a hátránya is, a fuziónak az időlimit, a potarás fuzionak hogy többé nem tudnak szétválni. De az tök logikus lenne hogy önmagávab ez nem elég, és pl az is egy hátrány hogy kevésbé fejlődőképes.

Egyébként kicsit erős nekem is ez a lelkileg gyenge vegito, valahogy anno ennek nem volt jele, de elfogadom meg logikus is hogy ennyire elvakítja a hatalom. Ugyanakkor ott van benne goku...


Nem kell, hogy a fúzió maga limitálja. A puszta tény, hogy ő messze a legerősebb elég, hogy limitálja a fejlődését. A tény, hogy senki nem jelent kihívást. Közben Goku, és Vegita folyamatosan rivalizáltak, és túltettek egymáson. Ha most kapnánk egy U18 Vegettot, vagy Gogetát, akkor az simán verné U16 Vegettot.
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Jewbacca 20 November 2023
Vérengző Szelindek was saying:
A főellenség szerintem XXI lesz, de mielőtt megmérkőzhetnének vele, gondolom lesz egy bekattant Vegitós kitérő.
Nekem az nem világos, hogy Vegito miért nézi le, egyenesen utálja a "komponenseit". Semmi logika nincs benne, rosszul van megírva a karakter.


Ez nem utálat. Csak lenézés. Meg egy kis félelem, hogy esetleg utol érheti őt valaki nyers erőben. Vegetto a legerősebb a sajátvilágában mérföldekkel mindenki felett amióta csak létezik, és pont ezért van rá esély hogy Goku, és Vegita utol érje. Vegetto gyaroklatilag nem nézett szembe méltó ellenféllel amióta létezik, és a fejlődése limitált arra amit egyedül edz. Goku, és Vegita közben riválisok voltak, és folyamatosan igyekeztek túltenni a másikon újabb technikákkal, és egyre erősebb edzéssel. Gogeta, vagy U18 Vegetto simán el tudná verni U16 Vegettot. És szerintem ezzel ő is tisztába van.
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Jewbacca 11 August 2023
I am ticklish, but if Gohan's reaction is similar to mine, then Kuillin is about to be smashed. My common reaction is to punch whoever does it.
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Jewbacca 26 July 2023
Current prediction:
Kulilin will defeat Lan-Fan. She doesn't seems to be exceptionally strong. Like if it weren't for Roshi's weakness for pretty girls, then he would have defeated her with like 1% of his power, and while Kulilin isn't strong as Goku was at this point. He is not that much weaker either.
Gohan will defeat Namu, and then Bacterian. I think he should be close to Roshi level.
Kulilin vs Gohan finale, and Gohan wins. 1 Replie(s)
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Jewbacca 29 June 2023
Okay finally something interesting for a change. Though Lan-fan is actually stand a chance against Jackie. That old pervert's primary weakness is pretty women.
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Jewbacca 17 March 2023
I think, that they are indeed much closer to Vegetto, than he anticipated, and should they fuse they could beat Vegetto without a breeze. For the first time he is seeing a potential opponent, that could eradicate him in a direct fight instead of tricks, and magic. I don't think they each can beat him yet, but he also calculate the possibility of their fusion. Also with such speed they might do the fusion in near instant. Which means, that a minor distraction is enough to create a warrior, that can beat him straight on.

The reason behind that is quite simple. Since his creation Vegetto never faced anyone who could possibly pose a challenge. Every single enemy he faced was basically one hit. And while he can train on some level on his own it is not nearly as efficient as training with someone who is on your own level, or close to it. It also harms creativity a lot. When you are facing an opponent stronger, then creativity can help out a lot. Forcing to figure out new means of fighting, but when all enemy is much weaker, then you simply don't need it. In most RPG games if you face something with much greater stats, then you must use all tricks, tactics, consumables, etc. to beat it. But when the enemy is 10 level below, then you can basically just press attack.
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Jewbacca 2 January 2023
Ineskadel was saying:
"Végre feltűnt a színen egy valódi szuper csillagharcos is. "

De mi a helyzett akor a U3 Bardrockal? Aki szintén képes az ssj1-re?
Ő akkor nem valódi ssj?
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És persze örülök hogy újra látthatom és betekintés nyerhetek Zen Buu-nak a személyiségébe :D


Bardock a sötétben rejtőzködik. Akkor lehet csak látni először amikor Raditz ellen az arénába lép. És Buu-nak nincs emléke róla mint szuper csillagharcosról. Vegeta és Goku sosem látta átváltozni a verseny előtt.
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Jewbacca 15 December 2022
He has no need to win the tournament. Only learn the location of new Namek from U18 Goku, or U16 Vegetto. Or even easier learn about the dragon balls in U18, and use those. His time machine is basically capable of moving him between U18, and his own universe. I see no reason why he couldn't "borrow" Dende, and the dragon balls. Hell he could get infinite wishes by going back a year later. To U18 he comes yearly to him he goes in 5 minutes. 1 Replie(s)
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Jewbacca 22 November 2022
SSJ Your Nick was saying:
So she quit because she doesn't think she can take XXI. Fair enough I guess.

I guess Gast is the best bet to take him on, though I would imagine XXI's strategy will be to play to his emotions rather than by force since Gast can probably repel it, and offer to grant him his wish during the fight (Split him into individual Namekians again). Whether Gast buys into that or not will probably depend on if he trusts XXI's overall motives or not.


Or simply do it in the ring. We know, that the Namekian fusion is as usual more, than just combined strength. As separated Gast's combined power is much less. Not to mention the chance of affecting his knowledge, and magic powers. In other words. XXI would win instant, because Gast no longer has a reason to fight for, or by defeating the Namekians in battle. A single ki blast would likely kill 99,9% of them. Leaving only Nail alive, and he alone is not much. Not to mention, that he might be reluctant to let his entire race die. Again. 1 Replie(s)
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Jewbacca 14 November 2022
If she expects thought reading, then perhaps the best method is to go, and start attacking with everything she got in an instant. No special moves, no distance shit, or teleportation. Just go there, and hit Gast hard, and fast as she can. Maybe even go SSJ2 instantly for it.
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Jewbacca 20 October 2022
Making amends shouldn't be done by losing here. And Pan's idea wouldn't work. Gast has extremely fast regeneration. A small piece is enough to fully regenerate in moments. What she needs is total vaporization, or magic, but she does not know the latter.
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Jewbacca 16 October 2022
zero logic was saying:
Gast said he was "always looking for a challenge" so I doubt he uses magic to his advantage. If anything I foresee this being used as a lecture where Gast forfeits after Bra shows that she can control herself or something. It will be a talking battle similar to King Piccolo one


Wouldn't bet on that. Gast has an important reason to win. He wants to restore his people by undoing his own fusion. So i doubt he is willing to give up for anything, or anyone. For now i wouldn't bet on either of them. Gast was able to disable Vegetto somehow so he certainly has a chance. 1 Replie(s)
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Jewbacca 16 October 2022
Zeromus was saying:
Bardock is finished. Even if Piccolo will help him they are at best MSSJ level and Raichi can summon Vegeta SSJ3 and LSSJ Broly. There is literally nothing that they can do in face of that power.


Bardock is aware of that. I think he will just get the fuck out of there. He survived this long by hiding, and i think he is willing to go hiding a bit more.
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Jewbacca 15 October 2022
But he doesn't seek evil to destroy. He seeks only saiyans to destroy. Be evil, or not. I mean piccolo was fucking Earth for a long time, but he didn't gave a shit after the Saiyans were "wiped out", because he is not saiyan. In his special he was just sitting in his home, and waiting. At first he didn't even wanted to help that sorcerer who visited him, and it's not like he knew anything about him, or his plans.
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Jewbacca 7 October 2022
superduck130 was saying:
wait....... after all these years i Vegetto going to go beserk bc he's hungry and wants senzus? Is that what's going to put him over the edge?


Unlikely. These folks has unlimited number of dragon balls so they can just wish for a thousand senzus whenever they want. All Vegetto has to do is ask.
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Jewbacca 6 October 2022
ZenBuu was saying:
Jewbacca was saying: Vegetto thinks he saved everyone "again", but he never did so far. During Babidi's coup 18 Bra, and Zen Buu saved the day. During the current coup the Vargas saved the day. The only person he truly saved was Bra when Ginyu stole her body.
Pretty sure he talked about Broly there. Otherwise yeah, would be very delusional from him to think he saved everyone from Buu.


That is just saved them once. And i am not sure, if that count either. They already learned that Buu fucked their tech. Meaning, that without him the Vargas would have just sent him back, and problem solved. Plus he was expected to fight him anyway. Last but not least without him Broly would have been dealt with. Even if they can't defeat him. Which i think possible with Zen Buu. They can still distract him until they can send him back. For all his power he was never actually needed so far.
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Jewbacca 6 October 2022
Vegetto thinks he saved everyone "again", but he never did so far. During Babidi's coup 18 Bra, and Zen Buu saved the day. During the current coup the Vargas saved the day. The only person he truly saved was Bra when Ginyu stole her body. 1 Replie(s)
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Jewbacca 3 October 2022
vadkan was saying:
Úgy néz ki nem a legerősebb harcos fogja nyerni a tornát. Se Vegitto se Gast nem tudott mit kezdeni Buuval. XII ről nem sok mindent tudni, de ha erősebb Buu nál, akkor, ha mindenki összefog akkor sincs semmi esélyük ellene.


XII eddig mindenkit insta lenyomott szóval egyenlőre úgy tűnük ő a legerősebb. 1 Replie(s)
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Jewbacca 14 September 2022
Buu is not yet sent away. Remember, that the opponents Buu create are extensions of him. Which means, that when he is sent back, then the enemy will be gone as well. I think he just fucking with Uub. Wants him to fight without any protection, or help. Make him believe, that he will be destroyed, if he is not good enough. 1 Replie(s)
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Jewbacca 19 August 2022
My current assumption is that Buu left learning material behind that is not bound to him. Books. Buu disappear during the session, and Uub forced to self learn, and figure out how to leave. When he leaves he is quite a magician already.
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Jewbacca 2 August 2022
A point of the multiverse is that every possible scenario exist at the same time. Which means, that there is a universe with the tournament where Buu didn't come back, and another where he did. Either by chance, or by choice.
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Jewbacca 24 July 2022
Now this is very stretched. It would make sense, if they had a failsafe so that only certain people can use it, but to make it impossible to be used by anyone but them? Beside Buu is the most intelligent being there. If anyone can figure out how to alter it so he can use it as well, then it will be him. This sounds more like an excuse to keep him away.

Or perhaps this is how they believe, and he will return later. 1 Replie(s)
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Jewbacca 16 July 2022
I knew it would be too easy to just "brute force" Buu.
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Jewbacca 15 July 2022
Another possibility i was thinking is that Buu has pieces far from the arena. He shown that he has connection from great distance. He watched the entire Babidi revolt while being with the others teleported away. He even mentions, that he could just bring everyone back, but then he would ruin the show.

I expect, that at some point they "defeat him", and he just goes into hiding. But technically the only way to destroy Buu is either that spell XXI used, then blow the whole sphere, or blowing up the entire universe.
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Jewbacca 10 July 2022
Well no worries. In previous pages we saw Buu keeping entire arms. So he is still alive. Though i can totally see him faking his death so he can return to the shadow, and keep manipulating stuff. For all we know he could have a piece on the other side of the universe just in case. 1 Replie(s)
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Jewbacca 3 July 2022
I wonder if Buu will just come back, or remain hidden, and watch the show. Considering it's power, and intelligence. I doubt that it truly died. However he has a great satisfaction from watching the show while seemingly being disabled, and manipulating others.
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Jewbacca 19 June 2022
Buu's meaning. Just enjoy this magnificent show guys. But seriously we saw in a previous special, that while he is eager to test himself against warriors, and absorbing those who have great skill. He also has no interest in harming, or putting conventional mortals into harms way. Kinda make sense since Gohan, and Goku both part of him, and these two are absolute good guys. They affected his personality enough for this.
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Jewbacca 7 June 2022
From what we have seen here Zen Buu cannot be beaten conventionally. He keeps spreading tiny pieces of itself, and for as long as a single one exist he can regenerate, and we also saw that there is no distance limitation. He can have a piece 200 million lightyears away in deeps space, and still capable of regenerating, and returning in a matter of seconds. Unless they destroy the entire universe all at once brute force will not help here.

My best bet for their victory is to use the same spell XXI did. It seems, that Buu cannot counter it. Yes he can return from it, but takes time. This time however they wouldn't bother trying to send him back. Just throw up, then Vegetto use everything he got to blast it.
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Jewbacca 19 May 2022
Saved? I would rather say. Under new management.

vwishmwahuul was saying:
More cruel to come back later? That excuse is so pitiful I’m it sure it counts as an excuse. More like a poor attempt to save face.


Not wrong though. If he just kill them all, then they can't suffer anymore. Allowing them to rebuild only to destroy it again is much more cruel.
DB Multiverse page 2034
Jewbacca 15 May 2022
Vertanc was saying:
ren1991 was saying: 3at egy csapásra :D am. nem lett volna mód rá hogy rávegye kami hogy ő legyen az alap? vagy volt valami fogadás a feketével hogy hamar megyőzi a fuzióra? amiről nem adtak oldalt

Ezt akartam mondani én is, hogy Kaminak nem mindegy, hogy most az ő gonosz énje vagy a csillagharcosok pusztítják el a földet? :D


Piccolo nem érdekelt az emberiség teljes kiírtásában. Ő inkább egy kegyetlen uralkodó, és nem egy totál mészáros. A csillagharcosokról ez nem mondható el. Bár nem láttuk a konkrét parancsokat itt, de a viselkedés alapján eléggé gyanús, hogy a parancs a lakosság teljes kiírtása.
DB Multiverse page 2033
Jewbacca 22 April 2022
At some point Kami gets enough of the genocide, and will offer to be absorbed by Piccolo instead. Something he will accept since it means he will be in control. After that he cleans up the Saiyans, and start ruling Earth as a tyrant. What happens next is a good question.
DB Multiverse page 2023
Jewbacca 3 April 2022
frambuesa was saying:
So the army is what scares Kami and makes him fuse Pikoro. If Raditz had just shut up.


Makes sense. He might be able to defeat these kids, and maybe even Raditz (he is younger, and likely weaker, than he was in Z), but an army of these is something Kami get afraid of for good reason. He cannot win on his own.
DB Multiverse page 2015
Jewbacca 9 March 2022
He says one down so the intention was to kill, but this wouldn't be the first time he fails, and did not check closely. We remember when he "killed" Goku, but didn't check closely, and he survived because of his dragon ball. In here she might survived, because of her armor.

Also remember that Raditz is MUCH younger here, than in DBZ. He is likely in his teen years. Though i think it will be Gohan (the old one), or Roshi who will kill him. Or a combined effort. In here my expectation is that the kid is dead, and Raditz comes for vengeance, and kills Tao. Remember that the average strength of Earth is considered very low, and even the stronger warriors are misleading, because they do not show their strength constantly. Which means it is entirely possible that this entire team dies, because they underestimated the humans. Of course they can send a new stronger team later. 1 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 2003
Jewbacca 27 January 2022
I would allow this second tournament under the condition that nobody is obliged to do enter. Buu can refuse anyone entering, but nobody have to.

I bet that Vegetto, and Goku would go without hesitation. However i think Buu want XII to enter. I mean he won every match nearly instant by knowing his enemy's weakness, and abuse. Buu is curious how he actually fights. I doubt that he could use the same trick on Vegetto again for example.

Tombo was saying:


Just a matter of her realising Vegitto is probably the only one that can really stop Buu.



Vegetto was not there when Buu had a mini tantrum. So he has no real idea. I don't think that anyone but XII could actually stop him. Brute force is worthless here. Only with knowledge can this Buu be truly beaten. His primary tactic is sending tiny pieces of him everywhere. If he sends a piece somewhere far, then you would need to blow up the entire universe to get rid of him with brute force. And with an attack powerful enough to actually destroy his pieces. Not even Vegetto is that powerful.
DB Multiverse page 1993
Jewbacca 11 January 2022
GreatWyrmGold was saying:
Majunia was saying: About the visions, that happened like...10 years ago? why people keep expecting them to actually happen? remember Bardock having a vision of Goku fighting first form Freezer? his visions arent accurate at all.
First off, I'm not treating a small detail of a vision that Salagir didn't write as evidence to the accuracy of the visions he did. Having Bardock's visions be perfectly accurate is far from the biggest change Salagir made to DBZ (deutero)canon; heck, it's not even the biggest change he made to Bardock and his visions! (That would be how the fish guy passed on the prophecy powers, which for the record I think is a positive change.)
Second off, I'm pretty sure Salagir has literally said everything in the vision is going to take place.

joekhuk was saying: if Zen Buu goes down like this... Then this is the worst writing since squirrel girl. A nigh omnipotent character never figured out a counter to the one spell that can contain him. Ridiculous, unbelievable and weak.
I won't say I consider it a satisfying conclusion—the nicest thing I can say about it is that it's the obvious shortcut—but I don't find it actively unrealistic that Buu wouldn't find a counter to a highly specialized (and possibly un-counterable) spell only known by one dead guy.

It's a bit anticlimactic, though—I was hoping for something a bit more creative. XXI went for the most obvious solution possible for 18, and a more interesting one for Vegetto. I was hoping we'd get something even more interesting for Zenbuu, but instead we got the magical version of 18's off switch.

Blaze was saying: And I don't think Xxi's dragon can grant wishes like that, seems more like a knowledge dragon than anything else.
I wouldn't say just a knowledge-dragon. Unless you're saying XXI built an android-shut-down-ing remote in his room? But it could be substantially less powerful than Shenron, Porunga, etc, which would be more than enough reason for him to want a single wish.

I might as well speculate on the last few fights.

I want Gast to beat some humility into Bra, for three reasons. One, she needs it; two, I don't like Bra; three, Gast's nature means his fight with XXI could be more satisfying than one with Bra would be. (Either he sends her to the slow-time dimension, exactly like her dad, or we get some unsatisfying explanation for why Bra can't be sent to the slow-time dimension.) I didn't get my "Bra learns humility through defeat" wish last time she was in a fight, and I don't think I'll get it now either (unless I find some Dragon Balls). But let's pretend.

If XXI fights Gast, the most obvious thing for him to do would be to use some instant-win spell, but probably not the teleporting one. I don't think it's unreasonable that Gast might know a counter to hostile teleportation, and if he does he'd obviously prepare it before the fight. Something a step more interesting would be to de-fuse Gast somehow—probably via a specialized spell?—but if I'm lucky Salagir will think of something I didn't. But none of that is my actual prediction.

Obviously Goku beats Vegeta in their semifinals round, and then Goku will be scheduled to fight XXI. I predict that the tournament will be disrupted somehow before they can actually fight. After all that's happened, having Goku just fight XXI would be awfully tame, and it's hard to justify XXI not just instantly winning after the slow-dimension trick. Instead, I think XXI will struggle in his fight against either Gast or (somehow) Bra and worry that he'll lose the fight—and his chance at the Dragon Balls! At this point he does something ridiculously against the rules to secure a set of Dragon Balls, forcing all the heroes and some of the villains to struggle against whatever XXI does. I'm not going to speculate about the details of this final clash, but I expect Goku will play a critical role, both because he's the expected protagonist and so the "Goku Vs. XXI" cell on the Tournament Help page has something to link to.


In conclusion, it's weird that XXI's name isn't pronounced "twenty-one".


I don't think the slow dimension trick would work anyone powerful enough again. It worked on Vegetto, because he was the first. It was a suprise. For Bra it wouldn't. If she were locked away she would break out as quickly as possible, and not take her time like Vegetto. Same goes for everyone else. Against Bra i can imagine something similar the girls did to Bojack, or Gast did to Vegetto. Against Gast i can imagine defusing him. That would fulfil his wish, and turn him into countless weaklings. The former is more important. With his wish fulfilled he no longer has any reason to fight, or remain. In fact the safest solution for him would be give up, and return to his own timeline as fast as possible before stuff goes wrong again.

Another idea that might work on Bra, and Goku is somehow turn them into great ape, then teleport them away. They can't control the ape, and once teleported they won't have enough brain to return. Their friends can help them turn back, and bring them back, but only after they lost. Beyond these options i see no other instant win scenario against the Saiyans. Though that doesn't mean the creators can't come up with something.
DB Multiverse page 1986
Jewbacca 7 January 2022
Dezso was saying:
What? Lekel tartóztatni a Nagy Kaio-shin-t(nem tudom hogy melyik az)? Mit nem vettem észre?


Az ő feladata volt Buu kézben tartása amikor nem éppen harcol. Egy idelye már gyanították a többiek, hogy valójában nem tartotta kézben csupán úgy tett mintha fogva tartaná, és Buu is csak megjátszotta a szerepet.

Én gyanítom, hogy rájöttek, hogy Buu nem volt valójában fogva tartva, és félnek, hogy Buu esetleg kiszabadul. A másik lehetőség, hogy rájöttek, hogy Buu végig látta az egész Babidi puccsot, de nem segített.
DB Multiverse page 1985
Jewbacca 6 January 2022
Most people forgot. Buu did not come for the win. He just wanted to have fun. So losing him intentionally here wouldn't be too much out of character. It's not like he need wishes at all.

An alternative reason could be that there is no way for Buu to counter this without sacrificing his own build. This spell could have been designed as weakness to his very core, and "biology". Which means that the only way to counter it is to alter his own "biology", and that means becoming a different race. With all of it's limitation. And let's face it. This form is vastly superior to any other beings in the DBM with XII being the only probable exception. And considering that XII is an entirely made up character we have no idea if his kind even exist at all in Zen Buu's universe. And since Buu could not recognize him i think he is a unique being that most likely doesn't exist in most other universes.

One last thing. XII is ALONE from his universe. That means something killed EVERYONE ELSE from both the villains, and the heroes. No Piccolo, Goku, Gohan, Cell, Androids, Buu, etc.. Whatever happened in there must have caused a terrible destruction to the entire universe.
DB Multiverse page 1984
Jewbacca 5 January 2022
To be honest i would prefer if Zen Buu reappear, or restore himself to say. What. You thought i am not prepared against the biggest weapon ever made against me?
DB Multiverse page 1983
Jewbacca 20 December 2021
Füchsin was saying:
Shit, Uub got fixed on that magic. I hope this isn't gonna be one of those deal with the devil type things that ultimately bites one in the ass.


This Buu is far beyond anyone of U18 so he has nothing to gain. I think he would teach Uub out of curiosity. He wants to know how far his "human counterpart" can go. I wouldn't be surprised, if he were already figured out how to mimic the Varga's timeline switch technology, and plan to visit other universes after the tournament. 3 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 1977
Jewbacca 17 December 2021
We have no idea how hard Raditz tried to match them. I can assume that even Saiyans have their limits. A point when he just accepts, that he NEVER reach Vegeta, and Goku's level, and no longer even tries. With those two his own power is no longer relevant, and just glad for the scraps, and some exercise on the weaklings they don't bother with. However this doesn't mean he cannot reach their power at all. I think the most reasonable thing would be making the mystic form purely on race dependent. If SSJ3 is the top tier any saiyan can achieve, then Raditz should be on that level. However power alone does not guarantee win unless, if you are a LOT stronger. Skill plays too, and Vegeta very likely has a lot more of that.

As for this vegeta vs U9. These guys defeated Frieza, Cold, Cooler of their time. Considering how weak most humans are i can only assume that they got some insanely good teamwork. But i doubt that this Vegeta would bother with such thing. It achieves nothing, and he only risk being teleported to home, or fucked up by the other good guys from the other universes. Though i'm not sure, if he could even win here. We have no idea just how powerful these guys when they decide to work together.
DB Multiverse page 1976
Jewbacca 1 December 2021
I think the other guy learned about the girls' plan, and made a deal. They grant him full pardon for all his crimes, and in return he won't reveal the plan to Bojack. Then all he had to do is step back, and watch. If the plan fails, then he just says, that Bojack had no need of help, and did not wanted to take the fun from him killing them, and if the plan works, then he also just stands back, and let them kill Bojack, or maybe help them, if it is needed.
DB Multiverse page 1969
Jewbacca 25 November 2021
Well at least it's not just some random bullshit ability that can destroy anyone. It needs a loong preparation time. Something you can't just do on a battlefield without a big preparation.
DB Multiverse page 1967
Jewbacca 29 October 2021
Szerencsétlen lányok olyan rondák, hogy még Roshi mester se izgulna rájuk. A másik probléma, hogy az a kettő aki harcolt rendkívül gyengék voltak. Innentől fogva nem látom, hogy az a kettő mégis mi a fenét akar itt.
DB Multiverse page 1956
Jewbacca 29 October 2021
Aizen was saying:
Zangyának legalább van esze.
Bevallom, ködösek az emlékeim a movie-ról, Bojack abban is ilyen idióta volt, vagy csak a szokásos butítás történt?


Szerintem neki is leesett, de sok csapda fordítható a készítő ellen. Szerintem Bojack leszarja, hogy csapdába sétál mert úgy gondolja elég erős, hogy bármit legyőzzön. Legalábbis a saját idővonalán.
DB Multiverse page 1955
Jewbacca 19 October 2021
Ezek olyan rondák, hogy még Roshi mester sem izgulna fel..
DB Multiverse page 1951
Jewbacca 13 October 2021
Dezso was saying:
Ezután kik jönnek?


Bra vs Gast, vagy XII vs Buu. Amit láttunk Gasttól Vegetto ellen Bra esélyei elég gyérek, bát lehet az a taktika nem jó 1v1 harcban, mert lefoglalja őt is, vagy olyan felkészülést igényel amit a csata közben nem tehet meg.

A XII vs Buu szintén iszonyat nagy talány. XII eddig mindenkit instant levert valami piszkos trükkel, ha fentartja ezt a módszert, akkor kiváncsi leszek mit vet be Buu ellen.
DB Multiverse page 1949
Jewbacca 10 October 2021
After seeing the small one getting killed with destroyed core, and later Bra killing Cell in Majin i would have expected, that his core is truly a weakspot, but it is an incredibly small one. Something like the Cell in the past was when Krillin found, and destroyed him in Gero's lab. This is more of a size of a human heart. Though it could be that he made it bigger as a side effect of making it stronger. So that area attacks can't destroy it so easily, or even a precise attack. Next moment he might even start regenerating himself in Vegeta's hand before he does something about it.
DB Multiverse page 1948
Jewbacca 29 September 2021
Dezso was saying:
What?! Mégse esett ki?


Miért esett volna? Nincs a szabályban olyan, hogy nem mehet ki a ringből. Bra fényévekre teleportált, hogy levegye a szupernehéz edzőruhát, de a 30 másodperc előtt visszaért, és folytatta a meccset.
DB Multiverse page 1943
Jewbacca 27 September 2021
ren1991 was saying:
lehet nem tiltja de ez nem egyfajta feladás?


Nem. A szabályok szerint 30 másodpercre eltűnhet bárhova. Bra is elhagyta a küzdőteret, hogy levegye a nehéz edzőruhát az egyik harcán. Bár azt kifogásolhatják, hogy a nézők közé ment ezzel veszélyesztetve őket. Vegita jobban tette volna, ha csak simán kimegy valahova. 1 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 1942
Jewbacca 26 August 2021
To me it seems Cell is a bit surprised of Vegeta's speed. I'm not entirely sure that he wasn't on 100% speed. Even if he wasn't on 100% power. Maybe he intended to slap him aside to prove he could have killed him as toying. He has the Saiyan's pride, and what Vegeta did by saying "try then" is a wound to that. It is a challenge, and Saiyans NEVER back down from a challenge. And nor does Cell.

Zen Buu explained the actions that happened, and that gives a great advantage to Vegeta. He knows two things about Cell already which he can use to his advantage. First is that he is harder to kill with a large area wide attack, but also he is easier to kill with precise attack. Vegeta has learned, that even Cell does not stand above the weakness of his children. At this point Vegeta's best chance is a single precise, and powerful attack straight for the core. Without any delayment, or messing around. Since Cell has the advantage of infinite stamina, and regeneration prolonging the battle only serves him.
DB Multiverse page 1928
Jewbacca 23 August 2021
Ideje fogadni, hogy lessz-e valaha Goku vs Vegita a ringben, vagy Cell lezúzza Vegitát.
DB Multiverse page 1927
Jewbacca 24 July 2021
Makk was saying:
Na ez totál idegennek érződik az DBM-hez.


Ez a szervezők univerzuma. Vélhetően két tudós teljesen egyidőben felfedezte az idővonalakat. A valóságban volt hasonlóra példa. Több tudós feltalálta ugyanazt egymástól függetlenül. De sosem ennyire egyidőben, és egy helyen.

Ez szebb lett volna ha két tudós két különböző univerzumban találja fel ezt. Figyelembe véve a multiverzum szabályait az teljesen helyénvaló. 1 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 1914
Jewbacca 2 July 2021
I was thought about something like this before. Kaioken one million, but can only maintain for less than a quarter second. Basically put every bit of stamina into a single monumental attack that can kill just about any foe. However it drains the user entirely which means that it has no use against multiple enemies. An attack like that could kill Goku, but no use on any form of Buu, or Raichi for example. Even if used against Raichi's ball the second foe easily kills the totally drained warrior. Also wouldn't have much use in a battle royal unless a foe is extremely important to be dealt with.
DB Multiverse page 1905
Jewbacca 10 June 2021
Goku will win this one. The next match is about to be far more interesting. I personally looking forward the Buu vs XII. They both shown very intelligent, and quite capable. We know that Buu is insanely powerful with an incredible knowledge, but XII defeated everyone with a counter move in less than a minute so far. I wonder, if he has a counter move for Buu as well.
DB Multiverse page 1895
Jewbacca 7 June 2021
The first should be pretty clear Goku win, but the rest is unsure. We don't know how stronger Vegetta got, but Cell became pretty tough. Even Gohan's full powered attack didn't killed him instantly. XXI vs Buu also a huge mystery, because we know almost nothing about XXI. Bra vs Gast. In her current mental state Bra might give up before entering, and even if she enters she won't be able to fight with full power, and Gast has some pretty strong 1v1 moves.
DB Multiverse page 1894
Jewbacca 5 June 2021
Mitsa was saying:
Egész Bra mizzéria alatt nem esett szó XXI-ről. Nem tudjuk, hogy túlélte, meghalt-e és most újjáélesztette Buu, ami bosszantó. Oké értem, kell egy karakter, akin lehet csámcsogni, hogy mit tudhat, ha még kíváncsi Buu darabkával is könnyedén elbírt. Babidi varázslata nem hatott rá, sem a Majin, sem a teleportálás, mert sehol nem láttuk. Azt kizártnak tartom, hogy a mega-giga kienzan nem ért el hozzá, és ha más nem, az miatt kidughatta volna az orrát a szobájából, hogy mi a fene folyik. Vagy ennyire közömbös lenne?


Vagy csak simán tudta, hogy minden rendbejön nélküle is, és aludt egyet egy másik dimenzióban. Vagy lehet bement oda ahova Vegettot teleportálta, és pár másodperc múlva kijött miután Buu mindent helyre hozott. Eddigi ismeretünk szerint az a lény rendkívül intelligens, vagy felsőbb tudás birtokában van.
DB Multiverse page 1893
Jewbacca 23 May 2021
Tradinesz was saying:
Mondjuk én arra számítottam hogy kinyírják ginyut freezáék,ez most egy csalódás volt.

Amúgy azt a kaoshint buu irányítja most vagy mi?

Csóri Radizt meg az öreg hogy ugrassa,ha jól emlékszek nem szabadítsa fel az erejét az a terve


Nem képesek rá. Ginyu sokkal erősebb mint ők ketten, és minden seregük együtvéve. Ez az "újratárgyalás" is teljesen értelmetlen. Ha akarja kinyírja mindkettőt, és elvesz mindent. Ha nem is a versenyen, de otthon szerintem jobb belátásra téríti őket. Már ha túléli a versenyt.
DB Multiverse page 1888
Jewbacca 22 May 2021
Goku vs Uub is obvious Goku win.

Cell vs Vegita is most likely Vegita, because i doubt that they would leave out a Vegita vs Goku showdown.

Ghast, and Bra is good question.

XXI, and Zen Buu also a great question. So far XXI countered everyone with smarts. But now he is about to face someone who also extremely intelligent, and has deep knowledge of magic.
DB Multiverse page 1887
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