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Jewbacca
6 április
Gohan should die though. Considering, that he is not on the tournament.
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Jewbacca
10 Március
iron leaf was saying:
Smokescreen. How can that really help? At most, it gives them a 10-second head start. Sure, distraction so that Gast can do something. Even if the overarching plan is successful, this seems like a suicide mission for the humans.
I think they play on the androids sadistic nature to play around instead of going full on massacre.
Jewbacca
3 Március
My best bet is the wish is meant to weaken Goku in some way.
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Jewbacca
3 Február
Universe 10 has gone home. So either someone is using their place, or the writer put the wrong number. As for his promise. I believe he told the truth. It looks like this guy want to eat everyone, and if his wish is to be able to travel the multiverse, then saving one is not a bad thing. After all carbonite is not alive.
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Jewbacca
1 Február
Funniest part. It is in XXI's interest to fulfil that wish.
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Jewbacca
30 Január
I don't see why XXI is so damn upset. Goku is powerful, but also kind of dumb when it comes to tricks, and magic. Something that is a speciality of XXI. Up to this point he won all fights in less than a minute. And once he has his wish he can probably go around to devour more, if not use the wish to outright do so. I wonder what wish he wants to actually make. If he wants to travel the multiverse, then he might even want to give the wish to the Heliotas. As he seems to be interested in eating the living so if their universe is full of carbonite, that is not a good feast.
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Jewbacca
24 Január
What's the issue? He already consumed his entire universe. I fail to see how Gast could matter so much.
No i think the other one is just a random namek, or Piccolo. 1 Replie(s)
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happywarrior99 was saying:
The last panel shows two Gasts, one who is undamaged and one who is a charred corpse. Did Gast regenerated from his cut legs?
No i think the other one is just a random namek, or Piccolo. 1 Replie(s)
Jewbacca
24 Január
Lionskull was saying:
Upsz... Na, ez több szempontból érdekes fordulat. Egyrészt egy olyan sejthető dolog, mint a kollektív namek tudat eljött, más rész XXI most bajban lehet: Vagy azért mert nem eheti meg Gastot és nem tud elég erőt gyűjteni a döntőre, vagy kijelenti hogy Gast beolvasztása már visszafordíthatatlan, amiért meg kizárják, mert azután tette meg, hogy feladta. Én arra tippelek, hogy valami ilyesmi van mint a második lehetőség és szépen kizárják.
XXI nem használt túl sok erőt eddig. Gast volt az első ahol erőt kellet bevetnie. Szerintem szimplán elengedi Gastot, és utána kér egy szünetet. Ami teljesen érthető figyelembe véve, hogy a döntő következik. Elvileg XXI beolvasztotta az egész univerzumát így Gast nem hiszem, hogy sokat jelent. Gokut sem puszta erővel fogja támadni először. Szerintem megpróbál valami trükköt bevetni mint eddig mindenki más ellen.
Jewbacca
24 Január
I think XXI will stop the attack as he has no desire to be sent home. And Gast has little meaning, if he already consumed his entire universe.
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Jewbacca
18 Szeptember
Gast knows that going all out against Janemba is pointless. He has to attack XXI somehow. I think he lacks speed because his mind is working primarily.
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Jewbacca
28 Augusztus
I think, that XXI is an old wizard, and the other one is this black mist enslaved by XXI. Up to this point XXI was able to win using it's knowledge, and once it's power. But now it denied the answer to defeat Gast so XXI takes the gamble of freeing it. He knows, that if there is any way to win, then the entity will do it once freed. The question is. Will XXI be able to re-enslave it, if it wins.
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Jewbacca
25 Augusztus
Undoing Gast's fusion would be the best bet for XXI. Not just making him weaker, but eliminate his reason to fight at all. Gast's primary objective is to use the dragon balls to unfuse himself, if XXI do it for him, then he has no reason to remain, and risk getting himself, and his people killed.
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Jewbacca
10 Augusztus
Vegeta's energy is running out. Also we aren't sure, if Raditz truly weaker at all. Remember, that the old Kai wanted him to go against XXI, and not Vegeta. He could have just lied to trick him into the fusion. I would not say, that the brothers bound to lose yet. If Kakarot can take the hits first, and make Vegeta run out of energy, then Raditz likely can finish the job. And considering, that Kakarot is immortal it makes perfect sense for him to go frontline.
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Jewbacca
22 Július
The button malfunctioned previously, because of Zen Buu. Without him it should work. So either U13 going home, or Elder Kai prevent pressing it. Though i don't know how he will turn Kakaraditz on XXI. I mean without others trying to stop hi like Yamcha did to IKL.
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Jewbacca
6 Július 2024
I think the old kai is lying to trick Raditz into the fusion. Remember, that he wants XXI destroyed at ANY cost. If Raditz became brutally powerful, then all he needs now is control over him. And a fusion might do the trick.
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Jewbacca
2 április 2024
Remember. That universe beaten the saiyans, and the frost demons as well. If i were write the story, then after Raditz's attack Dr. Gero, and Bulma would have worked together to create the androids. And when Vegeta died they would have improved the plans to make Yamcha strong enough to beat King Cold at the very least.
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Jewbacca
25 Március 2024
I think, that his time stop needs to be maintained. It is not a fire, and forget, but more like a power he has to maintain, and thus lose some of his own power while doing it. The reason why he seems to be this weak is, because he cannot go full power without letting the time flow, and if he does that, then others will join the fray, and he is doomed. Bra would most likely erase him in miliseconds after what he has done to Vegetto.
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Jewbacca
3 Március 2024
Vegetto most likely will be brought back with the dragon balls, and he will be PISSED. He was defeated twice already, and now actually killed. And the worst part. Every single one came from hesitation. He could have crushed IKL before he could stop time, but he wanted to see what he will do. He could have crushed XXI, but he wanted to see what he will do. So in his eyes the solution might be not wasting time anymore. No waiting for opponent to do anything.
As for how IKL gets defeated. I don't think, that 16 can destroy him, but i think, that this time stop either not last forever, or needed to be maintained. If runs out, or 16 can stop it, then the rest can deal with this guy.
Alternatively i can see the Varga's winning this. They have a ship away to check on stuff periodically. If the ship comes back, then an automated system might notice, that there is no response, and check what is going on. Then send IKL home, and shows over.
My personal favorite would be XXI interfering. Showing, that IKL would not be stopped by anyone else, and forcing his hand to stop this so, that he can win the tournament.
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As for how IKL gets defeated. I don't think, that 16 can destroy him, but i think, that this time stop either not last forever, or needed to be maintained. If runs out, or 16 can stop it, then the rest can deal with this guy.
Alternatively i can see the Varga's winning this. They have a ship away to check on stuff periodically. If the ship comes back, then an automated system might notice, that there is no response, and check what is going on. Then send IKL home, and shows over.
My personal favorite would be XXI interfering. Showing, that IKL would not be stopped by anyone else, and forcing his hand to stop this so, that he can win the tournament.
Jewbacca
28 Február 2024
He had a point, but i don't think, that he can win this. Okay stop time for now, and maybe even kill them all. But remember, that the Varga ships come to check every 10, or 5 minutes? While time stopped that ship also delayed. Once it comes back it can press the big red button, and send IKL home. Then just use a set of dragonbals, and revive everyone.
Not to mention, that there are a number of powerful magic users like Ghast, and XXI. They might recognize this, and counter it somehow.
Last but not least Uub is in the pocket realm. He might simply be immune to it, because of that, and more importantly pretty much nobody knows he is there, and who knows how much power, and knowledge he will have once he gets out.
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Not to mention, that there are a number of powerful magic users like Ghast, and XXI. They might recognize this, and counter it somehow.
Last but not least Uub is in the pocket realm. He might simply be immune to it, because of that, and more importantly pretty much nobody knows he is there, and who knows how much power, and knowledge he will have once he gets out.
Jewbacca
23 December 2023
For once i agree with Bojack. He was a fool to make all those plans, and speeches. They know, that Bojack is an ahole, and they also know, that he is strong. Just let him fight the frost demons. Things aren't going to get worse regardless of the outcome.
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Jewbacca
21 November 2023
U18 Vegetto is wrong. They had one more opponent. Each other.
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Jewbacca
21 November 2023
szupernamek was saying:
@Pip25
Akkor ott buu ellen nem volt alternatívája vegitonak, szükség volt rá. Az egy másik kérdés, hogy a fejlődőképessége esetleg gyengült a fuzio miatt. Minden technikának megvan a hátránya is, a fuziónak az időlimit, a potarás fuzionak hogy többé nem tudnak szétválni. De az tök logikus lenne hogy önmagávab ez nem elég, és pl az is egy hátrány hogy kevésbé fejlődőképes.
Egyébként kicsit erős nekem is ez a lelkileg gyenge vegito, valahogy anno ennek nem volt jele, de elfogadom meg logikus is hogy ennyire elvakítja a hatalom. Ugyanakkor ott van benne goku...
Akkor ott buu ellen nem volt alternatívája vegitonak, szükség volt rá. Az egy másik kérdés, hogy a fejlődőképessége esetleg gyengült a fuzio miatt. Minden technikának megvan a hátránya is, a fuziónak az időlimit, a potarás fuzionak hogy többé nem tudnak szétválni. De az tök logikus lenne hogy önmagávab ez nem elég, és pl az is egy hátrány hogy kevésbé fejlődőképes.
Egyébként kicsit erős nekem is ez a lelkileg gyenge vegito, valahogy anno ennek nem volt jele, de elfogadom meg logikus is hogy ennyire elvakítja a hatalom. Ugyanakkor ott van benne goku...
Nem kell, hogy a fúzió maga limitálja. A puszta tény, hogy ő messze a legerősebb elég, hogy limitálja a fejlődését. A tény, hogy senki nem jelent kihívást. Közben Goku, és Vegita folyamatosan rivalizáltak, és túltettek egymáson. Ha most kapnánk egy U18 Vegettot, vagy Gogetát, akkor az simán verné U16 Vegettot.
Jewbacca
20 November 2023
Vérengző Szelindek was saying:
A főellenség szerintem XXI lesz, de mielőtt megmérkőzhetnének vele, gondolom lesz egy bekattant Vegitós kitérő.
Nekem az nem világos, hogy Vegito miért nézi le, egyenesen utálja a "komponenseit". Semmi logika nincs benne, rosszul van megírva a karakter.
Nekem az nem világos, hogy Vegito miért nézi le, egyenesen utálja a "komponenseit". Semmi logika nincs benne, rosszul van megírva a karakter.
Ez nem utálat. Csak lenézés. Meg egy kis félelem, hogy esetleg utol érheti őt valaki nyers erőben. Vegetto a legerősebb a sajátvilágában mérföldekkel mindenki felett amióta csak létezik, és pont ezért van rá esély hogy Goku, és Vegita utol érje. Vegetto gyaroklatilag nem nézett szembe méltó ellenféllel amióta létezik, és a fejlődése limitált arra amit egyedül edz. Goku, és Vegita közben riválisok voltak, és folyamatosan igyekeztek túltenni a másikon újabb technikákkal, és egyre erősebb edzéssel. Gogeta, vagy U18 Vegetto simán el tudná verni U16 Vegettot. És szerintem ezzel ő is tisztába van.
Jewbacca
11 Augusztus 2023
I am ticklish, but if Gohan's reaction is similar to mine, then Kuillin is about to be smashed. My common reaction is to punch whoever does it.
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Jewbacca
26 Július 2023
Current prediction:
Kulilin will defeat Lan-Fan. She doesn't seems to be exceptionally strong. Like if it weren't for Roshi's weakness for pretty girls, then he would have defeated her with like 1% of his power, and while Kulilin isn't strong as Goku was at this point. He is not that much weaker either.
Gohan will defeat Namu, and then Bacterian. I think he should be close to Roshi level.
Kulilin vs Gohan finale, and Gohan wins. 1 Replie(s)
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Kulilin will defeat Lan-Fan. She doesn't seems to be exceptionally strong. Like if it weren't for Roshi's weakness for pretty girls, then he would have defeated her with like 1% of his power, and while Kulilin isn't strong as Goku was at this point. He is not that much weaker either.
Gohan will defeat Namu, and then Bacterian. I think he should be close to Roshi level.
Kulilin vs Gohan finale, and Gohan wins. 1 Replie(s)
Jewbacca
29 Június 2023
Okay finally something interesting for a change. Though Lan-fan is actually stand a chance against Jackie. That old pervert's primary weakness is pretty women.
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Jewbacca
17 Március 2023
I think, that they are indeed much closer to Vegetto, than he anticipated, and should they fuse they could beat Vegetto without a breeze. For the first time he is seeing a potential opponent, that could eradicate him in a direct fight instead of tricks, and magic. I don't think they each can beat him yet, but he also calculate the possibility of their fusion. Also with such speed they might do the fusion in near instant. Which means, that a minor distraction is enough to create a warrior, that can beat him straight on.
The reason behind that is quite simple. Since his creation Vegetto never faced anyone who could possibly pose a challenge. Every single enemy he faced was basically one hit. And while he can train on some level on his own it is not nearly as efficient as training with someone who is on your own level, or close to it. It also harms creativity a lot. When you are facing an opponent stronger, then creativity can help out a lot. Forcing to figure out new means of fighting, but when all enemy is much weaker, then you simply don't need it. In most RPG games if you face something with much greater stats, then you must use all tricks, tactics, consumables, etc. to beat it. But when the enemy is 10 level below, then you can basically just press attack.
DB Multiverse page 2169
The reason behind that is quite simple. Since his creation Vegetto never faced anyone who could possibly pose a challenge. Every single enemy he faced was basically one hit. And while he can train on some level on his own it is not nearly as efficient as training with someone who is on your own level, or close to it. It also harms creativity a lot. When you are facing an opponent stronger, then creativity can help out a lot. Forcing to figure out new means of fighting, but when all enemy is much weaker, then you simply don't need it. In most RPG games if you face something with much greater stats, then you must use all tricks, tactics, consumables, etc. to beat it. But when the enemy is 10 level below, then you can basically just press attack.
Jewbacca
2 Január 2023
Ineskadel was saying:
"Végre feltűnt a színen egy valódi szuper csillagharcos is. "
De mi a helyzett akor a U3 Bardrockal? Aki szintén képes az ssj1-re?
Ő akkor nem valódi ssj?
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És persze örülök hogy újra látthatom és betekintés nyerhetek Zen Buu-nak a személyiségébe :D
De mi a helyzett akor a U3 Bardrockal? Aki szintén képes az ssj1-re?
Ő akkor nem valódi ssj?
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És persze örülök hogy újra látthatom és betekintés nyerhetek Zen Buu-nak a személyiségébe :D
Bardock a sötétben rejtőzködik. Akkor lehet csak látni először amikor Raditz ellen az arénába lép. És Buu-nak nincs emléke róla mint szuper csillagharcosról. Vegeta és Goku sosem látta átváltozni a verseny előtt.
Jewbacca
15 December 2022
He has no need to win the tournament. Only learn the location of new Namek from U18 Goku, or U16 Vegetto. Or even easier learn about the dragon balls in U18, and use those. His time machine is basically capable of moving him between U18, and his own universe. I see no reason why he couldn't "borrow" Dende, and the dragon balls. Hell he could get infinite wishes by going back a year later. To U18 he comes yearly to him he goes in 5 minutes.
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Jewbacca
22 November 2022
SSJ Your Nick was saying:
So she quit because she doesn't think she can take XXI. Fair enough I guess.
I guess Gast is the best bet to take him on, though I would imagine XXI's strategy will be to play to his emotions rather than by force since Gast can probably repel it, and offer to grant him his wish during the fight (Split him into individual Namekians again). Whether Gast buys into that or not will probably depend on if he trusts XXI's overall motives or not.
I guess Gast is the best bet to take him on, though I would imagine XXI's strategy will be to play to his emotions rather than by force since Gast can probably repel it, and offer to grant him his wish during the fight (Split him into individual Namekians again). Whether Gast buys into that or not will probably depend on if he trusts XXI's overall motives or not.
Or simply do it in the ring. We know, that the Namekian fusion is as usual more, than just combined strength. As separated Gast's combined power is much less. Not to mention the chance of affecting his knowledge, and magic powers. In other words. XXI would win instant, because Gast no longer has a reason to fight for, or by defeating the Namekians in battle. A single ki blast would likely kill 99,9% of them. Leaving only Nail alive, and he alone is not much. Not to mention, that he might be reluctant to let his entire race die. Again. 1 Replie(s)
Jewbacca
14 November 2022
If she expects thought reading, then perhaps the best method is to go, and start attacking with everything she got in an instant. No special moves, no distance shit, or teleportation. Just go there, and hit Gast hard, and fast as she can. Maybe even go SSJ2 instantly for it.
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Jewbacca
20 Október 2022
Making amends shouldn't be done by losing here. And Pan's idea wouldn't work. Gast has extremely fast regeneration. A small piece is enough to fully regenerate in moments. What she needs is total vaporization, or magic, but she does not know the latter.
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Jewbacca
16 Október 2022
zero logic was saying:
Gast said he was "always looking for a challenge" so I doubt he uses magic to his advantage. If anything I foresee this being used as a lecture where Gast forfeits after Bra shows that she can control herself or something. It will be a talking battle similar to King Piccolo one
Wouldn't bet on that. Gast has an important reason to win. He wants to restore his people by undoing his own fusion. So i doubt he is willing to give up for anything, or anyone. For now i wouldn't bet on either of them. Gast was able to disable Vegetto somehow so he certainly has a chance. 1 Replie(s)
Jewbacca
16 Október 2022
Zeromus was saying:
Bardock is finished. Even if Piccolo will help him they are at best MSSJ level and Raichi can summon Vegeta SSJ3 and LSSJ Broly. There is literally nothing that they can do in face of that power.
Bardock is aware of that. I think he will just get the fuck out of there. He survived this long by hiding, and i think he is willing to go hiding a bit more.
Jewbacca
15 Október 2022
But he doesn't seek evil to destroy. He seeks only saiyans to destroy. Be evil, or not. I mean piccolo was fucking Earth for a long time, but he didn't gave a shit after the Saiyans were "wiped out", because he is not saiyan. In his special he was just sitting in his home, and waiting. At first he didn't even wanted to help that sorcerer who visited him, and it's not like he knew anything about him, or his plans.
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Jewbacca
7 Október 2022
superduck130 was saying:
wait....... after all these years i Vegetto going to go beserk bc he's hungry and wants senzus? Is that what's going to put him over the edge?
Unlikely. These folks has unlimited number of dragon balls so they can just wish for a thousand senzus whenever they want. All Vegetto has to do is ask.
Jewbacca
6 Október 2022
ZenBuu was saying:
Jewbacca was saying: Vegetto thinks he saved everyone "again", but he never did so far. During Babidi's coup 18 Bra, and Zen Buu saved the day. During the current coup the Vargas saved the day. The only person he truly saved was Bra when Ginyu stole her body.
Pretty sure he talked about Broly there. Otherwise yeah, would be very delusional from him to think he saved everyone from Buu.
Pretty sure he talked about Broly there. Otherwise yeah, would be very delusional from him to think he saved everyone from Buu.
That is just saved them once. And i am not sure, if that count either. They already learned that Buu fucked their tech. Meaning, that without him the Vargas would have just sent him back, and problem solved. Plus he was expected to fight him anyway. Last but not least without him Broly would have been dealt with. Even if they can't defeat him. Which i think possible with Zen Buu. They can still distract him until they can send him back. For all his power he was never actually needed so far.
Jewbacca
6 Október 2022
Vegetto thinks he saved everyone "again", but he never did so far. During Babidi's coup 18 Bra, and Zen Buu saved the day. During the current coup the Vargas saved the day. The only person he truly saved was Bra when Ginyu stole her body.
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Jewbacca
3 Október 2022
vadkan was saying:
Úgy néz ki nem a legerősebb harcos fogja nyerni a tornát. Se Vegitto se Gast nem tudott mit kezdeni Buuval. XII ről nem sok mindent tudni, de ha erősebb Buu nál, akkor, ha mindenki összefog akkor sincs semmi esélyük ellene.
XII eddig mindenkit insta lenyomott szóval egyenlőre úgy tűnük ő a legerősebb. 1 Replie(s)
Jewbacca
14 Szeptember 2022
Buu is not yet sent away. Remember, that the opponents Buu create are extensions of him. Which means, that when he is sent back, then the enemy will be gone as well. I think he just fucking with Uub. Wants him to fight without any protection, or help. Make him believe, that he will be destroyed, if he is not good enough.
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Jewbacca
19 Augusztus 2022
My current assumption is that Buu left learning material behind that is not bound to him. Books. Buu disappear during the session, and Uub forced to self learn, and figure out how to leave. When he leaves he is quite a magician already.
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Jewbacca
2 Augusztus 2022
A point of the multiverse is that every possible scenario exist at the same time. Which means, that there is a universe with the tournament where Buu didn't come back, and another where he did. Either by chance, or by choice.
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Jewbacca
24 Július 2022
Now this is very stretched. It would make sense, if they had a failsafe so that only certain people can use it, but to make it impossible to be used by anyone but them? Beside Buu is the most intelligent being there. If anyone can figure out how to alter it so he can use it as well, then it will be him. This sounds more like an excuse to keep him away.
Or perhaps this is how they believe, and he will return later. 1 Replie(s)
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Or perhaps this is how they believe, and he will return later. 1 Replie(s)
Jewbacca
16 Július 2022
I knew it would be too easy to just "brute force" Buu.
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Jewbacca
15 Július 2022
Another possibility i was thinking is that Buu has pieces far from the arena. He shown that he has connection from great distance. He watched the entire Babidi revolt while being with the others teleported away. He even mentions, that he could just bring everyone back, but then he would ruin the show.
I expect, that at some point they "defeat him", and he just goes into hiding. But technically the only way to destroy Buu is either that spell XXI used, then blow the whole sphere, or blowing up the entire universe.
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I expect, that at some point they "defeat him", and he just goes into hiding. But technically the only way to destroy Buu is either that spell XXI used, then blow the whole sphere, or blowing up the entire universe.
Jewbacca
10 Július 2022
Well no worries. In previous pages we saw Buu keeping entire arms. So he is still alive. Though i can totally see him faking his death so he can return to the shadow, and keep manipulating stuff. For all we know he could have a piece on the other side of the universe just in case.
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Jewbacca
3 Július 2022
I wonder if Buu will just come back, or remain hidden, and watch the show. Considering it's power, and intelligence. I doubt that it truly died. However he has a great satisfaction from watching the show while seemingly being disabled, and manipulating others.
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Jewbacca
19 Június 2022
Buu's meaning. Just enjoy this magnificent show guys. But seriously we saw in a previous special, that while he is eager to test himself against warriors, and absorbing those who have great skill. He also has no interest in harming, or putting conventional mortals into harms way. Kinda make sense since Gohan, and Goku both part of him, and these two are absolute good guys. They affected his personality enough for this.
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Jewbacca
7 Június 2022
From what we have seen here Zen Buu cannot be beaten conventionally. He keeps spreading tiny pieces of itself, and for as long as a single one exist he can regenerate, and we also saw that there is no distance limitation. He can have a piece 200 million lightyears away in deeps space, and still capable of regenerating, and returning in a matter of seconds. Unless they destroy the entire universe all at once brute force will not help here.
My best bet for their victory is to use the same spell XXI did. It seems, that Buu cannot counter it. Yes he can return from it, but takes time. This time however they wouldn't bother trying to send him back. Just throw up, then Vegetto use everything he got to blast it.
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My best bet for their victory is to use the same spell XXI did. It seems, that Buu cannot counter it. Yes he can return from it, but takes time. This time however they wouldn't bother trying to send him back. Just throw up, then Vegetto use everything he got to blast it.
Jewbacca
19 Május 2022
Saved? I would rather say. Under new management.
Not wrong though. If he just kill them all, then they can't suffer anymore. Allowing them to rebuild only to destroy it again is much more cruel.
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vwishmwahuul was saying:
More cruel to come back later? That excuse is so pitiful I’m it sure it counts as an excuse. More like a poor attempt to save face.
Not wrong though. If he just kill them all, then they can't suffer anymore. Allowing them to rebuild only to destroy it again is much more cruel.
Jewbacca
15 Május 2022
Vertanc was saying:
ren1991 was saying: 3at egy csapásra :D am. nem lett volna mód rá hogy rávegye kami hogy ő legyen az alap? vagy volt valami fogadás a feketével hogy hamar megyőzi a fuzióra? amiről nem adtak oldalt
Ezt akartam mondani én is, hogy Kaminak nem mindegy, hogy most az ő gonosz énje vagy a csillagharcosok pusztítják el a földet? :D
Ezt akartam mondani én is, hogy Kaminak nem mindegy, hogy most az ő gonosz énje vagy a csillagharcosok pusztítják el a földet? :D
Piccolo nem érdekelt az emberiség teljes kiírtásában. Ő inkább egy kegyetlen uralkodó, és nem egy totál mészáros. A csillagharcosokról ez nem mondható el. Bár nem láttuk a konkrét parancsokat itt, de a viselkedés alapján eléggé gyanús, hogy a parancs a lakosság teljes kiírtása.
Jewbacca
22 április 2022
At some point Kami gets enough of the genocide, and will offer to be absorbed by Piccolo instead. Something he will accept since it means he will be in control. After that he cleans up the Saiyans, and start ruling Earth as a tyrant. What happens next is a good question.
DB Multiverse page 2023
Jewbacca
3 április 2022
frambuesa was saying:
So the army is what scares Kami and makes him fuse Pikoro. If Raditz had just shut up.
Makes sense. He might be able to defeat these kids, and maybe even Raditz (he is younger, and likely weaker, than he was in Z), but an army of these is something Kami get afraid of for good reason. He cannot win on his own.
Jewbacca
9 Március 2022
He says one down so the intention was to kill, but this wouldn't be the first time he fails, and did not check closely. We remember when he "killed" Goku, but didn't check closely, and he survived because of his dragon ball. In here she might survived, because of her armor.
Also remember that Raditz is MUCH younger here, than in DBZ. He is likely in his teen years. Though i think it will be Gohan (the old one), or Roshi who will kill him. Or a combined effort. In here my expectation is that the kid is dead, and Raditz comes for vengeance, and kills Tao. Remember that the average strength of Earth is considered very low, and even the stronger warriors are misleading, because they do not show their strength constantly. Which means it is entirely possible that this entire team dies, because they underestimated the humans. Of course they can send a new stronger team later. 1 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 2003
Also remember that Raditz is MUCH younger here, than in DBZ. He is likely in his teen years. Though i think it will be Gohan (the old one), or Roshi who will kill him. Or a combined effort. In here my expectation is that the kid is dead, and Raditz comes for vengeance, and kills Tao. Remember that the average strength of Earth is considered very low, and even the stronger warriors are misleading, because they do not show their strength constantly. Which means it is entirely possible that this entire team dies, because they underestimated the humans. Of course they can send a new stronger team later. 1 Replie(s)
Jewbacca
27 Január 2022
I would allow this second tournament under the condition that nobody is obliged to do enter. Buu can refuse anyone entering, but nobody have to.
I bet that Vegetto, and Goku would go without hesitation. However i think Buu want XII to enter. I mean he won every match nearly instant by knowing his enemy's weakness, and abuse. Buu is curious how he actually fights. I doubt that he could use the same trick on Vegetto again for example.
Vegetto was not there when Buu had a mini tantrum. So he has no real idea. I don't think that anyone but XII could actually stop him. Brute force is worthless here. Only with knowledge can this Buu be truly beaten. His primary tactic is sending tiny pieces of him everywhere. If he sends a piece somewhere far, then you would need to blow up the entire universe to get rid of him with brute force. And with an attack powerful enough to actually destroy his pieces. Not even Vegetto is that powerful.
DB Multiverse page 1993
I bet that Vegetto, and Goku would go without hesitation. However i think Buu want XII to enter. I mean he won every match nearly instant by knowing his enemy's weakness, and abuse. Buu is curious how he actually fights. I doubt that he could use the same trick on Vegetto again for example.
Tombo was saying:
Just a matter of her realising Vegitto is probably the only one that can really stop Buu.
Just a matter of her realising Vegitto is probably the only one that can really stop Buu.
Vegetto was not there when Buu had a mini tantrum. So he has no real idea. I don't think that anyone but XII could actually stop him. Brute force is worthless here. Only with knowledge can this Buu be truly beaten. His primary tactic is sending tiny pieces of him everywhere. If he sends a piece somewhere far, then you would need to blow up the entire universe to get rid of him with brute force. And with an attack powerful enough to actually destroy his pieces. Not even Vegetto is that powerful.
Jewbacca
11 Január 2022
GreatWyrmGold was saying:
Majunia was saying: About the visions, that happened like...10 years ago? why people keep expecting them to actually happen? remember Bardock having a vision of Goku fighting first form Freezer? his visions arent accurate at all.
First off, I'm not treating a small detail of a vision that Salagir didn't write as evidence to the accuracy of the visions he did. Having Bardock's visions be perfectly accurate is far from the biggest change Salagir made to DBZ (deutero)canon; heck, it's not even the biggest change he made to Bardock and his visions! (That would be how the fish guy passed on the prophecy powers, which for the record I think is a positive change.)
Second off, I'm pretty sure Salagir has literally said everything in the vision is going to take place.
joekhuk was saying: if Zen Buu goes down like this... Then this is the worst writing since squirrel girl. A nigh omnipotent character never figured out a counter to the one spell that can contain him. Ridiculous, unbelievable and weak.
I won't say I consider it a satisfying conclusion—the nicest thing I can say about it is that it's the obvious shortcut—but I don't find it actively unrealistic that Buu wouldn't find a counter to a highly specialized (and possibly un-counterable) spell only known by one dead guy.
It's a bit anticlimactic, though—I was hoping for something a bit more creative. XXI went for the most obvious solution possible for 18, and a more interesting one for Vegetto. I was hoping we'd get something even more interesting for Zenbuu, but instead we got the magical version of 18's off switch.
Blaze was saying: And I don't think Xxi's dragon can grant wishes like that, seems more like a knowledge dragon than anything else.
I wouldn't say just a knowledge-dragon. Unless you're saying XXI built an android-shut-down-ing remote in his room? But it could be substantially less powerful than Shenron, Porunga, etc, which would be more than enough reason for him to want a single wish.
I might as well speculate on the last few fights.
I want Gast to beat some humility into Bra, for three reasons. One, she needs it; two, I don't like Bra; three, Gast's nature means his fight with XXI could be more satisfying than one with Bra would be. (Either he sends her to the slow-time dimension, exactly like her dad, or we get some unsatisfying explanation for why Bra can't be sent to the slow-time dimension.) I didn't get my "Bra learns humility through defeat" wish last time she was in a fight, and I don't think I'll get it now either (unless I find some Dragon Balls). But let's pretend.
If XXI fights Gast, the most obvious thing for him to do would be to use some instant-win spell, but probably not the teleporting one. I don't think it's unreasonable that Gast might know a counter to hostile teleportation, and if he does he'd obviously prepare it before the fight. Something a step more interesting would be to de-fuse Gast somehow—probably via a specialized spell?—but if I'm lucky Salagir will think of something I didn't. But none of that is my actual prediction.
Obviously Goku beats Vegeta in their semifinals round, and then Goku will be scheduled to fight XXI. I predict that the tournament will be disrupted somehow before they can actually fight. After all that's happened, having Goku just fight XXI would be awfully tame, and it's hard to justify XXI not just instantly winning after the slow-dimension trick. Instead, I think XXI will struggle in his fight against either Gast or (somehow) Bra and worry that he'll lose the fight—and his chance at the Dragon Balls! At this point he does something ridiculously against the rules to secure a set of Dragon Balls, forcing all the heroes and some of the villains to struggle against whatever XXI does. I'm not going to speculate about the details of this final clash, but I expect Goku will play a critical role, both because he's the expected protagonist and so the "Goku Vs. XXI" cell on the Tournament Help page has something to link to.
In conclusion, it's weird that XXI's name isn't pronounced "twenty-one".
First off, I'm not treating a small detail of a vision that Salagir didn't write as evidence to the accuracy of the visions he did. Having Bardock's visions be perfectly accurate is far from the biggest change Salagir made to DBZ (deutero)canon; heck, it's not even the biggest change he made to Bardock and his visions! (That would be how the fish guy passed on the prophecy powers, which for the record I think is a positive change.)
Second off, I'm pretty sure Salagir has literally said everything in the vision is going to take place.
joekhuk was saying: if Zen Buu goes down like this... Then this is the worst writing since squirrel girl. A nigh omnipotent character never figured out a counter to the one spell that can contain him. Ridiculous, unbelievable and weak.
I won't say I consider it a satisfying conclusion—the nicest thing I can say about it is that it's the obvious shortcut—but I don't find it actively unrealistic that Buu wouldn't find a counter to a highly specialized (and possibly un-counterable) spell only known by one dead guy.
It's a bit anticlimactic, though—I was hoping for something a bit more creative. XXI went for the most obvious solution possible for 18, and a more interesting one for Vegetto. I was hoping we'd get something even more interesting for Zenbuu, but instead we got the magical version of 18's off switch.
Blaze was saying: And I don't think Xxi's dragon can grant wishes like that, seems more like a knowledge dragon than anything else.
I wouldn't say just a knowledge-dragon. Unless you're saying XXI built an android-shut-down-ing remote in his room? But it could be substantially less powerful than Shenron, Porunga, etc, which would be more than enough reason for him to want a single wish.
I might as well speculate on the last few fights.
I want Gast to beat some humility into Bra, for three reasons. One, she needs it; two, I don't like Bra; three, Gast's nature means his fight with XXI could be more satisfying than one with Bra would be. (Either he sends her to the slow-time dimension, exactly like her dad, or we get some unsatisfying explanation for why Bra can't be sent to the slow-time dimension.) I didn't get my "Bra learns humility through defeat" wish last time she was in a fight, and I don't think I'll get it now either (unless I find some Dragon Balls). But let's pretend.
If XXI fights Gast, the most obvious thing for him to do would be to use some instant-win spell, but probably not the teleporting one. I don't think it's unreasonable that Gast might know a counter to hostile teleportation, and if he does he'd obviously prepare it before the fight. Something a step more interesting would be to de-fuse Gast somehow—probably via a specialized spell?—but if I'm lucky Salagir will think of something I didn't. But none of that is my actual prediction.
Obviously Goku beats Vegeta in their semifinals round, and then Goku will be scheduled to fight XXI. I predict that the tournament will be disrupted somehow before they can actually fight. After all that's happened, having Goku just fight XXI would be awfully tame, and it's hard to justify XXI not just instantly winning after the slow-dimension trick. Instead, I think XXI will struggle in his fight against either Gast or (somehow) Bra and worry that he'll lose the fight—and his chance at the Dragon Balls! At this point he does something ridiculously against the rules to secure a set of Dragon Balls, forcing all the heroes and some of the villains to struggle against whatever XXI does. I'm not going to speculate about the details of this final clash, but I expect Goku will play a critical role, both because he's the expected protagonist and so the "Goku Vs. XXI" cell on the Tournament Help page has something to link to.
In conclusion, it's weird that XXI's name isn't pronounced "twenty-one".
I don't think the slow dimension trick would work anyone powerful enough again. It worked on Vegetto, because he was the first. It was a suprise. For Bra it wouldn't. If she were locked away she would break out as quickly as possible, and not take her time like Vegetto. Same goes for everyone else. Against Bra i can imagine something similar the girls did to Bojack, or Gast did to Vegetto. Against Gast i can imagine defusing him. That would fulfil his wish, and turn him into countless weaklings. The former is more important. With his wish fulfilled he no longer has any reason to fight, or remain. In fact the safest solution for him would be give up, and return to his own timeline as fast as possible before stuff goes wrong again.
Another idea that might work on Bra, and Goku is somehow turn them into great ape, then teleport them away. They can't control the ape, and once teleported they won't have enough brain to return. Their friends can help them turn back, and bring them back, but only after they lost. Beyond these options i see no other instant win scenario against the Saiyans. Though that doesn't mean the creators can't come up with something.
Jewbacca
7 Január 2022
Dezso was saying:
What? Lekel tartóztatni a Nagy Kaio-shin-t(nem tudom hogy melyik az)? Mit nem vettem észre?
Az ő feladata volt Buu kézben tartása amikor nem éppen harcol. Egy idelye már gyanították a többiek, hogy valójában nem tartotta kézben csupán úgy tett mintha fogva tartaná, és Buu is csak megjátszotta a szerepet.
Én gyanítom, hogy rájöttek, hogy Buu nem volt valójában fogva tartva, és félnek, hogy Buu esetleg kiszabadul. A másik lehetőség, hogy rájöttek, hogy Buu végig látta az egész Babidi puccsot, de nem segített.
Jewbacca
6 Január 2022
Most people forgot. Buu did not come for the win. He just wanted to have fun. So losing him intentionally here wouldn't be too much out of character. It's not like he need wishes at all.
An alternative reason could be that there is no way for Buu to counter this without sacrificing his own build. This spell could have been designed as weakness to his very core, and "biology". Which means that the only way to counter it is to alter his own "biology", and that means becoming a different race. With all of it's limitation. And let's face it. This form is vastly superior to any other beings in the DBM with XII being the only probable exception. And considering that XII is an entirely made up character we have no idea if his kind even exist at all in Zen Buu's universe. And since Buu could not recognize him i think he is a unique being that most likely doesn't exist in most other universes.
One last thing. XII is ALONE from his universe. That means something killed EVERYONE ELSE from both the villains, and the heroes. No Piccolo, Goku, Gohan, Cell, Androids, Buu, etc.. Whatever happened in there must have caused a terrible destruction to the entire universe.
DB Multiverse page 1984
An alternative reason could be that there is no way for Buu to counter this without sacrificing his own build. This spell could have been designed as weakness to his very core, and "biology". Which means that the only way to counter it is to alter his own "biology", and that means becoming a different race. With all of it's limitation. And let's face it. This form is vastly superior to any other beings in the DBM with XII being the only probable exception. And considering that XII is an entirely made up character we have no idea if his kind even exist at all in Zen Buu's universe. And since Buu could not recognize him i think he is a unique being that most likely doesn't exist in most other universes.
One last thing. XII is ALONE from his universe. That means something killed EVERYONE ELSE from both the villains, and the heroes. No Piccolo, Goku, Gohan, Cell, Androids, Buu, etc.. Whatever happened in there must have caused a terrible destruction to the entire universe.
Jewbacca
5 Január 2022
To be honest i would prefer if Zen Buu reappear, or restore himself to say. What. You thought i am not prepared against the biggest weapon ever made against me?
DB Multiverse page 1983
Jewbacca
20 December 2021
Füchsin was saying:
Shit, Uub got fixed on that magic. I hope this isn't gonna be one of those deal with the devil type things that ultimately bites one in the ass.
This Buu is far beyond anyone of U18 so he has nothing to gain. I think he would teach Uub out of curiosity. He wants to know how far his "human counterpart" can go. I wouldn't be surprised, if he were already figured out how to mimic the Varga's timeline switch technology, and plan to visit other universes after the tournament. 3 Replie(s)
Jewbacca
17 December 2021
We have no idea how hard Raditz tried to match them. I can assume that even Saiyans have their limits. A point when he just accepts, that he NEVER reach Vegeta, and Goku's level, and no longer even tries. With those two his own power is no longer relevant, and just glad for the scraps, and some exercise on the weaklings they don't bother with. However this doesn't mean he cannot reach their power at all. I think the most reasonable thing would be making the mystic form purely on race dependent. If SSJ3 is the top tier any saiyan can achieve, then Raditz should be on that level. However power alone does not guarantee win unless, if you are a LOT stronger. Skill plays too, and Vegeta very likely has a lot more of that.
As for this vegeta vs U9. These guys defeated Frieza, Cold, Cooler of their time. Considering how weak most humans are i can only assume that they got some insanely good teamwork. But i doubt that this Vegeta would bother with such thing. It achieves nothing, and he only risk being teleported to home, or fucked up by the other good guys from the other universes. Though i'm not sure, if he could even win here. We have no idea just how powerful these guys when they decide to work together.
DB Multiverse page 1976
As for this vegeta vs U9. These guys defeated Frieza, Cold, Cooler of their time. Considering how weak most humans are i can only assume that they got some insanely good teamwork. But i doubt that this Vegeta would bother with such thing. It achieves nothing, and he only risk being teleported to home, or fucked up by the other good guys from the other universes. Though i'm not sure, if he could even win here. We have no idea just how powerful these guys when they decide to work together.
Jewbacca
1 December 2021
I think the other guy learned about the girls' plan, and made a deal. They grant him full pardon for all his crimes, and in return he won't reveal the plan to Bojack. Then all he had to do is step back, and watch. If the plan fails, then he just says, that Bojack had no need of help, and did not wanted to take the fun from him killing them, and if the plan works, then he also just stands back, and let them kill Bojack, or maybe help them, if it is needed.
DB Multiverse page 1969
Jewbacca
25 November 2021
Well at least it's not just some random bullshit ability that can destroy anyone. It needs a loong preparation time. Something you can't just do on a battlefield without a big preparation.
DB Multiverse page 1967
Jewbacca
29 Október 2021
Szerencsétlen lányok olyan rondák, hogy még Roshi mester se izgulna rájuk. A másik probléma, hogy az a kettő aki harcolt rendkívül gyengék voltak. Innentől fogva nem látom, hogy az a kettő mégis mi a fenét akar itt.
DB Multiverse page 1956
Jewbacca
29 Október 2021
Aizen was saying:
Zangyának legalább van esze.
Bevallom, ködösek az emlékeim a movie-ról, Bojack abban is ilyen idióta volt, vagy csak a szokásos butítás történt?
Bevallom, ködösek az emlékeim a movie-ról, Bojack abban is ilyen idióta volt, vagy csak a szokásos butítás történt?
Szerintem neki is leesett, de sok csapda fordítható a készítő ellen. Szerintem Bojack leszarja, hogy csapdába sétál mert úgy gondolja elég erős, hogy bármit legyőzzön. Legalábbis a saját idővonalán.
Jewbacca
19 Október 2021
Ezek olyan rondák, hogy még Roshi mester sem izgulna fel..
DB Multiverse page 1951
Jewbacca
13 Október 2021
Dezso was saying:
Ezután kik jönnek?
Bra vs Gast, vagy XII vs Buu. Amit láttunk Gasttól Vegetto ellen Bra esélyei elég gyérek, bát lehet az a taktika nem jó 1v1 harcban, mert lefoglalja őt is, vagy olyan felkészülést igényel amit a csata közben nem tehet meg.
A XII vs Buu szintén iszonyat nagy talány. XII eddig mindenkit instant levert valami piszkos trükkel, ha fentartja ezt a módszert, akkor kiváncsi leszek mit vet be Buu ellen.
Jewbacca
10 Október 2021
After seeing the small one getting killed with destroyed core, and later Bra killing Cell in Majin i would have expected, that his core is truly a weakspot, but it is an incredibly small one. Something like the Cell in the past was when Krillin found, and destroyed him in Gero's lab. This is more of a size of a human heart. Though it could be that he made it bigger as a side effect of making it stronger. So that area attacks can't destroy it so easily, or even a precise attack. Next moment he might even start regenerating himself in Vegeta's hand before he does something about it.
DB Multiverse page 1948
Jewbacca
29 Szeptember 2021
Dezso was saying:
What?! Mégse esett ki?
Miért esett volna? Nincs a szabályban olyan, hogy nem mehet ki a ringből. Bra fényévekre teleportált, hogy levegye a szupernehéz edzőruhát, de a 30 másodperc előtt visszaért, és folytatta a meccset.
Jewbacca
27 Szeptember 2021
ren1991 was saying:
lehet nem tiltja de ez nem egyfajta feladás?
Nem. A szabályok szerint 30 másodpercre eltűnhet bárhova. Bra is elhagyta a küzdőteret, hogy levegye a nehéz edzőruhát az egyik harcán. Bár azt kifogásolhatják, hogy a nézők közé ment ezzel veszélyesztetve őket. Vegita jobban tette volna, ha csak simán kimegy valahova. 1 Replie(s)
Jewbacca
26 Augusztus 2021
To me it seems Cell is a bit surprised of Vegeta's speed. I'm not entirely sure that he wasn't on 100% speed. Even if he wasn't on 100% power. Maybe he intended to slap him aside to prove he could have killed him as toying. He has the Saiyan's pride, and what Vegeta did by saying "try then" is a wound to that. It is a challenge, and Saiyans NEVER back down from a challenge. And nor does Cell.
Zen Buu explained the actions that happened, and that gives a great advantage to Vegeta. He knows two things about Cell already which he can use to his advantage. First is that he is harder to kill with a large area wide attack, but also he is easier to kill with precise attack. Vegeta has learned, that even Cell does not stand above the weakness of his children. At this point Vegeta's best chance is a single precise, and powerful attack straight for the core. Without any delayment, or messing around. Since Cell has the advantage of infinite stamina, and regeneration prolonging the battle only serves him.
DB Multiverse page 1928
Zen Buu explained the actions that happened, and that gives a great advantage to Vegeta. He knows two things about Cell already which he can use to his advantage. First is that he is harder to kill with a large area wide attack, but also he is easier to kill with precise attack. Vegeta has learned, that even Cell does not stand above the weakness of his children. At this point Vegeta's best chance is a single precise, and powerful attack straight for the core. Without any delayment, or messing around. Since Cell has the advantage of infinite stamina, and regeneration prolonging the battle only serves him.
Jewbacca
23 Augusztus 2021
Ideje fogadni, hogy lessz-e valaha Goku vs Vegita a ringben, vagy Cell lezúzza Vegitát.
DB Multiverse page 1927
Jewbacca
24 Július 2021
Makk was saying:
Na ez totál idegennek érződik az DBM-hez.
Ez a szervezők univerzuma. Vélhetően két tudós teljesen egyidőben felfedezte az idővonalakat. A valóságban volt hasonlóra példa. Több tudós feltalálta ugyanazt egymástól függetlenül. De sosem ennyire egyidőben, és egy helyen.
Ez szebb lett volna ha két tudós két különböző univerzumban találja fel ezt. Figyelembe véve a multiverzum szabályait az teljesen helyénvaló. 1 Replie(s)
Jewbacca
2 Július 2021
I was thought about something like this before. Kaioken one million, but can only maintain for less than a quarter second. Basically put every bit of stamina into a single monumental attack that can kill just about any foe. However it drains the user entirely which means that it has no use against multiple enemies. An attack like that could kill Goku, but no use on any form of Buu, or Raichi for example. Even if used against Raichi's ball the second foe easily kills the totally drained warrior. Also wouldn't have much use in a battle royal unless a foe is extremely important to be dealt with.
DB Multiverse page 1905
Jewbacca
10 Június 2021
Goku will win this one. The next match is about to be far more interesting. I personally looking forward the Buu vs XII. They both shown very intelligent, and quite capable. We know that Buu is insanely powerful with an incredible knowledge, but XII defeated everyone with a counter move in less than a minute so far. I wonder, if he has a counter move for Buu as well.
DB Multiverse page 1895
Jewbacca
7 Június 2021
The first should be pretty clear Goku win, but the rest is unsure. We don't know how stronger Vegetta got, but Cell became pretty tough. Even Gohan's full powered attack didn't killed him instantly. XXI vs Buu also a huge mystery, because we know almost nothing about XXI. Bra vs Gast. In her current mental state Bra might give up before entering, and even if she enters she won't be able to fight with full power, and Gast has some pretty strong 1v1 moves.
DB Multiverse page 1894
Jewbacca
5 Június 2021
Mitsa was saying:
Egész Bra mizzéria alatt nem esett szó XXI-ről. Nem tudjuk, hogy túlélte, meghalt-e és most újjáélesztette Buu, ami bosszantó. Oké értem, kell egy karakter, akin lehet csámcsogni, hogy mit tudhat, ha még kíváncsi Buu darabkával is könnyedén elbírt. Babidi varázslata nem hatott rá, sem a Majin, sem a teleportálás, mert sehol nem láttuk. Azt kizártnak tartom, hogy a mega-giga kienzan nem ért el hozzá, és ha más nem, az miatt kidughatta volna az orrát a szobájából, hogy mi a fene folyik. Vagy ennyire közömbös lenne?
Vagy csak simán tudta, hogy minden rendbejön nélküle is, és aludt egyet egy másik dimenzióban. Vagy lehet bement oda ahova Vegettot teleportálta, és pár másodperc múlva kijött miután Buu mindent helyre hozott. Eddigi ismeretünk szerint az a lény rendkívül intelligens, vagy felsőbb tudás birtokában van.
Jewbacca
23 Május 2021
Tradinesz was saying:
Mondjuk én arra számítottam hogy kinyírják ginyut freezáék,ez most egy csalódás volt.
Amúgy azt a kaoshint buu irányítja most vagy mi?
Csóri Radizt meg az öreg hogy ugrassa,ha jól emlékszek nem szabadítsa fel az erejét az a terve
Amúgy azt a kaoshint buu irányítja most vagy mi?
Csóri Radizt meg az öreg hogy ugrassa,ha jól emlékszek nem szabadítsa fel az erejét az a terve
Nem képesek rá. Ginyu sokkal erősebb mint ők ketten, és minden seregük együtvéve. Ez az "újratárgyalás" is teljesen értelmetlen. Ha akarja kinyírja mindkettőt, és elvesz mindent. Ha nem is a versenyen, de otthon szerintem jobb belátásra téríti őket. Már ha túléli a versenyt.
Jewbacca
22 Május 2021
Goku vs Uub is obvious Goku win.
Cell vs Vegita is most likely Vegita, because i doubt that they would leave out a Vegita vs Goku showdown.
Ghast, and Bra is good question.
XXI, and Zen Buu also a great question. So far XXI countered everyone with smarts. But now he is about to face someone who also extremely intelligent, and has deep knowledge of magic.
DB Multiverse page 1887
Cell vs Vegita is most likely Vegita, because i doubt that they would leave out a Vegita vs Goku showdown.
Ghast, and Bra is good question.
XXI, and Zen Buu also a great question. So far XXI countered everyone with smarts. But now he is about to face someone who also extremely intelligent, and has deep knowledge of magic.
Jewbacca
22 Május 2021
Tradinesz was saying:
@misi
Szerintem Vegito lesz az egyetlen aki nem fog tudni megbocsátani neki csak nem mutassa ki,és XXL-óta tárolja a haragot és ez a Babidis eset nagyot robbant nála, és mint ahogy a Bardock látomásban is láthattuk ahogy elszabadul szerintem közeledünk lassan ahhoz mert már nem sok kell Vegitonak és akkor talán egy Gogeta vs Vegitot kaphatunk
Szerintem Vegito lesz az egyetlen aki nem fog tudni megbocsátani neki csak nem mutassa ki,és XXL-óta tárolja a haragot és ez a Babidis eset nagyot robbant nála, és mint ahogy a Bardock látomásban is láthattuk ahogy elszabadul szerintem közeledünk lassan ahhoz mert már nem sok kell Vegitonak és akkor talán egy Gogeta vs Vegitot kaphatunk
Itt nem csupán a megbocsátásról van szó hanem arról, hogy Vegito eszméletlenül büszke az erejére, és nincs hozzá szokva, hogy bármikor bárki legyőzze. Lehet csak simán azt akarja majd bizonyítani, hogy ő a legerősebb, és senki sem tudja leverni, ha oda figyel.
Jewbacca
12 április 2021
Darius was saying:
Jewbacca was saying: Broly is invincible. Even Hyper Buu admits that he cannot be killed, or even defeated through conventional means in LSSJ. Hyper Buu would be able to kill him i think, but he absorbed more than just warriors. He also absorbed scientists, artists, mages, etc.. He has a great knowledge of pretty much everything, and has superior intelligence even compared to Bulma. His method of dealing with Broly wouldn't be through brute force, but somehow outsmart his power. Or somehow force him out from the LSSJ state, and make him mortal.
Hyper/ultra buu is the one in this timeline. zen buu is the one of the current timeline. He would turn him into something else. He can't be destroyed but he can be transmutated. Plus he said that before the carbonite was used. Broly can get sick he can be turned into things. The only way he couldn't would be if he put up a shield.
Hyper/ultra buu is the one in this timeline. zen buu is the one of the current timeline. He would turn him into something else. He can't be destroyed but he can be transmutated. Plus he said that before the carbonite was used. Broly can get sick he can be turned into things. The only way he couldn't would be if he put up a shield.
No. This buu is a special one. Hyper Buu is the one who defeated Goku, and Vegita as Super Buu on their timeline. Then absorbed Bulma as well, and gave up his plan on destroying Earth. He is MUCH stronger than this one. First he has the evil part of his, and second he has all sort of knowledge from everywhere, and third he is much more intelligent. This one is just a warrior. A very very strong warrior, but that's all he knows about. Fighting. 1 Replie(s)
Jewbacca
10 április 2021
Broly is invincible. Even Hyper Buu admits that he cannot be killed, or even defeated through conventional means in LSSJ. Hyper Buu would be able to kill him i think, but he absorbed more than just warriors. He also absorbed scientists, artists, mages, etc.. He has a great knowledge of pretty much everything, and has superior intelligence even compared to Bulma. His method of dealing with Broly wouldn't be through brute force, but somehow outsmart his power. Or somehow force him out from the LSSJ state, and make him mortal.
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Jewbacca
28 Január 2021
For now i would prefer continuing the main story. This one can go on in a special later.
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Jewbacca
24 Január 2021
Few years later. I am a mage, and wish to bargain for Babidi's life.
Dabura: No deal. I won't give up on my favorite decoration object. Looks at "Babidi's statue" in the throne room.
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Dabura: No deal. I won't give up on my favorite decoration object. Looks at "Babidi's statue" in the throne room.
Jewbacca
23 Január 2021
If you remember the special with Buu fulfilling wishes, then you can also remember, that beside Babidi Buu hates mages in general, and feels pity for those who are under their control, or created by them. I wouldn't be surprised, if he were not just freed Dabura, but even ensured, that he won't be re-enslaved. He wouldn't mind giving the pleasure of killing Babidi to Dabura.
I don't think, that Dabura gona fuck the universe though. He is most likely go home, and perhaps take Buu with him.
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I don't think, that Dabura gona fuck the universe though. He is most likely go home, and perhaps take Buu with him.
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Jewbacca
21 Január 2021
Doctor Proteus was saying:
Seems a bit disjointed having Buu asking Uub if he'd like to know how to wield magic to suddenly teleporting Babidi back.
I'm not sure, that he actually did that. He was shown transparent on that page so it was either a secret message, or Uub simply realized, that it was him inside his dream when he learned it. 1 Replie(s)
Jewbacca
18 Január 2021
Itt az egyetlen rész ami még nem tiszta, hogy most Buu titokban odaszólt Uubnak, vagy csak vissza emlékezett az álmára, és le esett neki, hogy az Buu volt. Egyébként érdekesen mennek az események. Vegitó szerintem még nem fog elszállni. Bár közel van hozzá. Ő azt hitte, hogy ő a legerősebb, és simány nyer. Erre sorra jönnek az ellenfelek akik speciális módszerekkel lenyomják, és egyetlen ütés nélkül veszít. Immár harmadjára.
Mondjuk én a versenyt sem tisztességes harcnak, hanem inkább valódi harcnak nevezném. Az a fajta harc ami közel áll egy igazi élet halál küzdelemhez a lehető legkevesebb korlátozással azon, hogy miként harcolsz. Fegyverek, mágia, gyilkosság, amit csak bírsz használni. Ha a szuperben ilyen szabály rendszer van, akkor a 6-os univerzum simán nyer a Beerus vs Champa tornán.
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Mondjuk én a versenyt sem tisztességes harcnak, hanem inkább valódi harcnak nevezném. Az a fajta harc ami közel áll egy igazi élet halál küzdelemhez a lehető legkevesebb korlátozással azon, hogy miként harcolsz. Fegyverek, mágia, gyilkosság, amit csak bírsz használni. Ha a szuperben ilyen szabály rendszer van, akkor a 6-os univerzum simán nyer a Beerus vs Champa tornán.
Jewbacca
18 Január 2021
I'm a bit unsure, if Buu actually gave a hint, or Uub simply realized it, that it was him in the dream. Buu intentionally showns as transparent so he is not really there saying this. It's more like a thought from Uub, or a secret message from Buu.
As for the rest. Gast got Vegetto by surprise so we aren't sure, if he could do this in a direct combat, and thus, if he could actually beat him. XXI is a mystery, but he has detailed knowledge about everyone. It could be, that his partner can look into other's memories, and check their life for weaknesses. For Vegetto he used his arrogance, and hesitation. He never rush to take down one punch an unknown opponent, and likes to mess around with his opponents. Even when there is no risk he won't go full power against an unknown enemy. For 18 it was the remote. For Buu it could be the same magic, that was used to lock away Buu in the first place before Babidi released him. In case of Gast i think, that it would be undoing the fusion. If he can do that, then "Gast" might just give up, because his wish has been fulfilled. No need to risk the death of his people.
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As for the rest. Gast got Vegetto by surprise so we aren't sure, if he could do this in a direct combat, and thus, if he could actually beat him. XXI is a mystery, but he has detailed knowledge about everyone. It could be, that his partner can look into other's memories, and check their life for weaknesses. For Vegetto he used his arrogance, and hesitation. He never rush to take down one punch an unknown opponent, and likes to mess around with his opponents. Even when there is no risk he won't go full power against an unknown enemy. For 18 it was the remote. For Buu it could be the same magic, that was used to lock away Buu in the first place before Babidi released him. In case of Gast i think, that it would be undoing the fusion. If he can do that, then "Gast" might just give up, because his wish has been fulfilled. No need to risk the death of his people.
Jewbacca
15 Január 2021
Nappa did not deserved this. Also i don't think, that anyone saw this coming, or could have stopped, and i don't think, that there is any justification here. It was a dick move from Gohan. BUT. Nappa is not dead. Knowing Gohan he just knocked him out. Vegetto tried to KILL Bra for her actions.
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Jewbacca
9 Január 2021
In his special it is clearly mentioned, that he is kinda allmighty now. Even Vegetto couldn't destroy him at all. He just keeps pieces of himself all over the whole galaxy, or even the whole world. So unless Vegetto manage to blow up the entire universe he has no hope against him.
He probably absorbed some Namek, that can make dragon balls, or the dragon balls themselves, or it's dragon, or all of it. It was told, that he sought all kind of power, and knowledge. Not simply combat. He absorbed Bulma, because she was smart. He absorbed a musician, because he was talented. Someone capable to create something, that can bring back entire planets is surely enough reason to be absorbed.
As for future consequences. Vegetto is not used to be defeated, and since he got here this is the 3. time he was defeated. Who knows what kind of anger goes through his head right now, and when he snaps. Not to mention, that everyone owes a big one to Buu right now. He might use this favor later. For example asking a battle with Vegetto just for fun in the arena outside of the tournament event, or demand a rematch with Vegetto, and XXI. Maybe XXI wins again with some unconventional way in 30 seconds, and Vegetto snaps, because of it.
Last but also important thing is, that Babidi might be still alive. And knowing Buu he might let him get a new chance. Maybe create Majin Vegetto just to see what happens.
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He probably absorbed some Namek, that can make dragon balls, or the dragon balls themselves, or it's dragon, or all of it. It was told, that he sought all kind of power, and knowledge. Not simply combat. He absorbed Bulma, because she was smart. He absorbed a musician, because he was talented. Someone capable to create something, that can bring back entire planets is surely enough reason to be absorbed.
As for future consequences. Vegetto is not used to be defeated, and since he got here this is the 3. time he was defeated. Who knows what kind of anger goes through his head right now, and when he snaps. Not to mention, that everyone owes a big one to Buu right now. He might use this favor later. For example asking a battle with Vegetto just for fun in the arena outside of the tournament event, or demand a rematch with Vegetto, and XXI. Maybe XXI wins again with some unconventional way in 30 seconds, and Vegetto snaps, because of it.
Last but also important thing is, that Babidi might be still alive. And knowing Buu he might let him get a new chance. Maybe create Majin Vegetto just to see what happens.
Jewbacca
9 Január 2021
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Buu valószínűleg magába olvasztott pár Namekot aki sárkánygömböket tudott csinálni, vagy magát a gömböket, vagy mindketőt. De ő simán tudja használni a hatalmát bármire. Plusz korábban amikor mindenkit feltámasztottak a gömbökkel, akkor meg is említik, hogy nem kell Buu miatt aggódni, mert sokkal nagyobb hatalma van mint a gömböknek.
Szerintem ennek még lesznek következményei. Most Vegito lenyugodott, de ki tudja mi folyik a fejében. Valmint most mindenki jön Buu-nak eggyel, és ki tudja mi lessz a kérése. Bár szerintem ő fojtatni akarja a versenyt a tervek szerint, és lehet kérni fog egy két harcot a versenyen kívül. Például, hogy összemérhesse az erejét Vegitoval.
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Buu valószínűleg magába olvasztott pár Namekot aki sárkánygömböket tudott csinálni, vagy magát a gömböket, vagy mindketőt. De ő simán tudja használni a hatalmát bármire. Plusz korábban amikor mindenkit feltámasztottak a gömbökkel, akkor meg is említik, hogy nem kell Buu miatt aggódni, mert sokkal nagyobb hatalma van mint a gömböknek.
Szerintem ennek még lesznek következményei. Most Vegito lenyugodott, de ki tudja mi folyik a fejében. Valmint most mindenki jön Buu-nak eggyel, és ki tudja mi lessz a kérése. Bár szerintem ő fojtatni akarja a versenyt a tervek szerint, és lehet kérni fog egy két harcot a versenyen kívül. Például, hogy összemérhesse az erejét Vegitoval.
Jewbacca
7 Január 2021
I wonder what Buu gona ask in return of fixing everything. Assuming, that he is about to fix everything.
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Jewbacca
7 Január 2021
Buu leszarja a kívánságokat, vagy azt, hogy ki nyer. Ő csak azért van ott, hogy élvezze a műsort, és harcoljon egy jót. Egyébként azzal, hogy most mindenkit megment elég komoly tartozása lessz mindenkinek felé. A kérdés csak az, hogy mi lessz a kérése. Ez a Buu egyébként egy igazi kaotikus semleges karakter. Az egyetlen dolog amiben biztosak lehetünk, hogy nem lehetünk biztosak semmiben nála.
Szinte majdnem biztos vagyok benne, hogy ennek a Buunak a kívánsága nem is a gömböktől lenne, hanem a szervezőktől. A képesség, vagy technológia, hogy utazzon az idővonalak között. Számára nincs ennél nagyob ajándék. Az esély, hogy végtelenül sok világot felfedezzen, és végtelenül sok ellenféllel harcolhasson.
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Szinte majdnem biztos vagyok benne, hogy ennek a Buunak a kívánsága nem is a gömböktől lenne, hanem a szervezőktől. A képesség, vagy technológia, hogy utazzon az idővonalak között. Számára nincs ennél nagyob ajándék. Az esély, hogy végtelenül sok világot felfedezzen, és végtelenül sok ellenféllel harcolhasson.
Jewbacca
5 Január 2021
??? was saying:
@Jewbacca
Mi garantálja ,hogy Bra nem kattan el megint? Az meg ,hogy jaj Bra megbánta a tetteit ne bántsuk szerintem totális baromság(Ezt nem csak neked mondom ,hanem mindenkinek aki úgy van vele ,hogy ne bántsuk). Ha Hitler mondta volna azt ,hogy "jaj megbántam mindent annyira sajnálom" akkor biztos vagyok benne ,hogy a legkegyetlenebb halált választották volna neki. Az meg ,hogy Vegito rossz apa ez miért is lep meg bárkit is? Goku és Vegeta a két legrosszabb apa minta. Goku általában halot volt vagy edzett néha mind a kettő ,hogy a TFS-től idézzek. Vegeta pedíg egészen a Cell Saga végéig az sem érdkelte ,hogy él a fia vagy sem ,de utána sem volt minta apa ,könyörgöm a Buu Saga-ban ölelte meg elösször a 8 éves fiát akkoris csak azért ,mert azt hitte ,hogy többet nem látja őt. Goku és Vegeta szeretik a gyerekeiket ,de ezt nem mutatják ki jól ,és ennek a kettőnek a keverékéből született meg Vegito. Akitől ezek után mit várunk?
Mi garantálja ,hogy Bra nem kattan el megint? Az meg ,hogy jaj Bra megbánta a tetteit ne bántsuk szerintem totális baromság(Ezt nem csak neked mondom ,hanem mindenkinek aki úgy van vele ,hogy ne bántsuk). Ha Hitler mondta volna azt ,hogy "jaj megbántam mindent annyira sajnálom" akkor biztos vagyok benne ,hogy a legkegyetlenebb halált választották volna neki. Az meg ,hogy Vegito rossz apa ez miért is lep meg bárkit is? Goku és Vegeta a két legrosszabb apa minta. Goku általában halot volt vagy edzett néha mind a kettő ,hogy a TFS-től idézzek. Vegeta pedíg egészen a Cell Saga végéig az sem érdkelte ,hogy él a fia vagy sem ,de utána sem volt minta apa ,könyörgöm a Buu Saga-ban ölelte meg elösször a 8 éves fiát akkoris csak azért ,mert azt hitte ,hogy többet nem látja őt. Goku és Vegeta szeretik a gyerekeiket ,de ezt nem mutatják ki jól ,és ennek a kettőnek a keverékéből született meg Vegito. Akitől ezek után mit várunk?
Egy olyan világról beszélünk ahol a holtakat vissza lehet hozni. Plusz itt most Bra Babidi irányítása alatt volt. Azért ölnéd meg, mert nem tudott ellen állni egy olyan támadásnak ami nem biztos, hogy bármilyen összefüggésben van az erejével, és egy csomó más személyt is irányítása alá vont. Vegita "ellen állt", de nem vagyunk benne biztosak, hogy ellen tudott volna, akkor is ha küzd ellene. Vegita átverte Babidi-t. Elhitette vele, hogy nyert, és közbe nem. De nem tudjuk, hogy vajon akkor is ez lett-e volna, ha minden erejével küzd. Lehet, akkor Babidi folytatja a támadást, és Vegita szimplán veszít. Bra-nak nem volt oka rá, hogy engedje magát. Neki nem volt különleges ellenfél aki miatt kellet volna ez, és nem látta előtte, hogy mire képes. Még Vegito sem, mert ő a többi versenyzővel el lett teleportálva messzire. Plusz Bra nem hisz benne, hogy ilyen "csalással" nyerni tudna ellene.
Ha én kimosnám az agyad, és rávennélek egy terror cselekményre, akkor téged elmegyógyintézetbe zárnak, hogy kigyógyítsanak. Börtönbe én kerülnék érte, és nem te. Itt annyi a külömbség, hogy Bra kigyógyult már.
Jewbacca
5 Január 2021
Corvin was saying:
Mitől rossz apa? Dragon Ball fanok között elég torz az apa ideál. Gokuval kapcsolatban is megy a hülyeség, hogy rossz apa és Piccolo Gohan igazi apja. Ja, végülis csak 2x halt meg Gohant védelmezve, tipikus ittasan a fiát verő kretén... Visszatérve Vegetto miért is rossz apa?
Láttad a 2. specialt? Gohan kb. 100-szor jobban bánt Bra-val mint Vegito bármikor. Eleve elvinni őt egy csatatérre nem éppen ideális egy gyereknek. Gohan esete más mert ott KELLETT, hogy ő is harcoljon amennyire csak tud. Egyértelmű volt, hogy ő benne is van elég sok erő, és a tét a túlélés volt. Bra esetén nincs láthatóan ilyen tét. Épp az elenkezője. Az aktuális időben minden nyugis, és Vegito meg Gohan kb. bárkit levernek. Nem volt szükség szerű, hogy Bra-t kurva keményen képezzék.
De mondjuk, hogy Bra nagyon szeretett volna harcolni, és erősebb lenni. Ok. Akkor is valódi csatába csak akkor szabad küldeni, ha nincs más választás. Itt nem csupán arról van szó, hogy megölhetik, hanem arról, hogy ő ölhet. Nem is beszélve lehetséges kínzásokról mindkét irányban. A másik oldal meg itt amit most láthattunk. Bra képes volt leverni magáról a Majin sealt, és láthatóan mindent megbánt. Megoldás: öljük meg. Msot először képes volt kezelni a dühét, és megállni a mészárlásban, és ahelyett, hogy örülne neki egy kicsit inkább bünteti. Nem azt mondom, hogy verni a gyereket sosem szabad, de fizikai bántalmazás az UTOLSÓ kell, hogy legyen a listán. Vegitonál ez láthatóan az első. 1 Replie(s)
Jewbacca
4 Január 2021
Vegito rossz apa, és Bra ma fejlődött, de most már koncentrálhatnának arra, hogy miként hozzák helyre ami történt. Zen Buu szerint nincsenek sárkánygömbök a helyszínen. Szal hacsak nincs valahol elrejtve egy űrhajó amivel érte mennek, akkor csak Buu tudja ezt rendbe hozni. És őt ismerve nem biztos, hogy az ingyen lessz.
Vicces lenne, ha cserébe egy új esélyt kérne Vegitonak XXI ellen, és Vegito megint kikapna 31 másodperc alatt. 2 Replie(s)
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Vicces lenne, ha cserébe egy új esélyt kérne Vegitonak XXI ellen, és Vegito megint kikapna 31 másodperc alatt. 2 Replie(s)
Jewbacca
4 Január 2021
Ok we got it. Vegito is a prick, and Bra might actually learned today. However they got a ruined arena, a ton of corpses, and not one set of dragon balls so far. It might be difficult to get one, because they kept in another universe. So unless they got some sort of ship somewhere, then they are stucked until someone comes for them. Unless, if Zen Buu chose otherwise. It was shown, that he can recurrent people similar to the dragon balls. If he restores the arena, and the locals, then they can continue the tournament. Would be interesting, if Buu would get a wish outside of the orders for saving the day.
He might wish for a re-match between Vegito, and XXI.
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He might wish for a re-match between Vegito, and XXI.
Jewbacca
1 Január 2021
Gotenksnek itt van egy elég érdekes kijelentése ami akár igaz is lehet. Vegita hagyta magát, hogy Babidi "irányítása alá vegye". Viszont lehet pont ezért nem volt sikeres. Nézzük egy pillanatra Babidi oldaláról. Elkezdi támadni Vegita elméjét, és egy ponton "nyer" ekkor leáll a támadással, és elkezd parancsokat adni. Utána jön rá, hogy még nem egészen a szolgája. De mi lett volna, ha Vegita nem hagyja magát. Ha harcol a mágia ellen amennyire csak lehet. Vajon Babidi akkor is "nyert" volna? Vagy lehet, hogy Babidi szimplán veszít. De az is lehet, hogy Babidi úgy is nyer, de akkor ténylegesen uralta volna Vegita elméjét.
Itt nekem nagyon úgy tűnt, hogy Bra nem akart Babidi irányítása alá kerülni, és csak szimplán veszített.
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Itt nekem nagyon úgy tűnt, hogy Bra nem akart Babidi irányítása alá kerülni, és csak szimplán veszített.
Jewbacca
31 December 2020
He actually has a point. Think from Babidi's view when he attacked Vegeta's mind. Vegeta gave in, but secretly didn't. When the Majin sign appeared, and Vegeta started act like pure evil again, then Babidi stopped the attack, because "he won". But, if he weren't gave in, if he weren't wanted that power, and resist as much as he can, then would have Babidi stopped the attack until fully brainwashed? I'm not really sure. Babidi was surprised when Vegeta first disobeyed. Showing, that he indeed thought, that he have won.
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