I like DBM but sometimes they have their priorities skewed. Why are we focusing on random spectators instead of the characters? Why did no one react to Goku's loss? It's like it was another day in the office for everyone. Vegito suddenly doesn't care despite a major part of his character being his hatred of magic and what he considers to be cheap tricks overcoming strength. We haven't even seen Goku since he was revived. Can I at least get Vegeta's reaction to his rival/best friend being cheapshotted? He looked pretty upset, I'd like to see his thoughts.

We're finally here.

I first started reading this comic in 2008, (you can find my posts from back then on some of the early pages,) and for 17 years I have checked in weekly to see this story progress. The amount of dedication Salagir has shown to this project, and the perseverance to keep going despite countless pressures; artists moving on, the lack of money a fancomic raises, the commitment to releasing multiple pages per week for almost two decades, is astounding. Thank you Salagir for everything you have accomplished, and thank you the wider DBM team.

I wonder if the genius of this comic is fully recognised. Salagir would have had to have known from the start the end fight would be Goku vs Xxi, the semi-finals Goku vs Vegeta, the quarter-finals Goku vs Uub. He then had to design the whole tournament to ask essentially every What-If scenario and every X vs Y question the DBZ fandom has had for decades. Was Nail stronger than Recuum? What would a fifth form Freeza look like? Why were the future Androids weaker than the main timeline Androids? Could Cell beat Dabra? Does Krillin's keinzan beat Salza's salza blade? What if Goku never turned good, what if all of the Namekians fused? Salagir even used Dr Raichi's ghosts, Tapion, and now Xxi to pose additional questions with regards to Broly, the Saiyans, Hildegarn and Janemba. The Janemba one in particular sits with me - Salagir said 17 years ago that Janemba couldn't reasonably be at this tournament due to being uncontrollable, but he must have known that Janemba was going to exist towards the finale. He spent nearly 20 years keeping that secret.

This comic is a love letter not just to DBZ, but to the DBZ fandom, and could only have been written by someone with a deep, fundamental understanding of what makes DBZ great, of what makes people keep coming back to this story year after year. I do not think I have ever seen a fan-led project have anywhere near as much earnest heart as this.

Now - it might be that the conclusion still takes some years - but as we are reaching the conclusion I want to put on record the years of absolute joy this project has brought me. I reread it in its entirety every year or two. I think it will stand the testiment of time. And I cannot wait to see how it ends.

I wonder if Bra would have the same weakness if she became as strong as her father? Or if it's just a flaw in the way fusion handles power.

XXI continues to attack Gast even after he surrenders, according to the rules that Gast cited he should be disqualified

What was Goku supposed to answer in order to make the Old Kaioshin happy?
"Hey you must win but you have no hopes and I cannot power you up"
"I'll do my very best!"
"You're so stupid"
What was the Old Kaio hoping to hear?!

It would've been nice, but I think Gast understands it's their word against XXI's. He doesn't have any real proof, so it'd just be a waste of time. On the bright side, now someone knows XXI's nature as a devourer and can start slowly peeling away at this character

After some gorgeous pages, thank god Asura exists, we're back to the plot and imo it makes little sense as usual.

Sorry but what exactly makes Bra say that? I feel like I'm missing King Kai commenting and explaining the battles, cause I understand nothing. How do we go from "just go 10 times faster" to "I couldn't beat him myself"? Did they power up at some point with nothing showing it? They were battling at 1/10th of their power and she didn't notice? I'm not even sure which one would be worse.

Moreover, what even is going on with Gast? He just almost died, lost his wish, and failed both u16 and u19... and he's just like "yeah whatever gonna sleep"? Did everyone became a DBS characters just to move the plot or what?

Such a dumb concept and a total misunderstanding of the twins' true nature and the source of their powers: their strength not only comes from their small perpetual energy reactor - which doesn't need any "maintenance" - but most importantly, from their genetically-modified cells. So no, 17 & 18 don't get weaker over time, quite the contrary. Which is precisely why Gero feared them so much: he had made them way too powerful, with a great dormant potential. A concept that was reused in GT and that Toriyama was finally able to exploit in Super.

Salagir messed up big time on that one.

Today was saying: Aren't kaioshin supposed to be super strong (like SSJ2 level)?
We just know Kaioshin was able to beat Freeza easily.^^

This is a fun sequence, though this appears to be something of a confirmation as to each individual Buu's power level, with each copy being somewhat above the level of a weak Super Saiyan 2, but below the level of a weak Super Saiyan 3.
I say weak because Kakarot only just reached level 2 and this Vegeta only recently reached level 3, and I'm fairly certain they are weaker in base compared to U18 too.
Still, it's quite impressive from Buu to have so many copies each above the level of Kakarot.
He's not bothered in the slightest about Vegito because he knows he'll win a battle of attrition and is clearly just enjoying himself.
I can see the strongest of the Cell Jrs. being able to help a little because of Buu spreading himself so thin though.

Pix was saying: I’m starting to think that Raditz dies here and on Page 1514 he’s one of Raichi’s ghosts, infiltrating the Saiyan empire

No, this was before Raichi attacked. He more than likely died during the Raichi extermination with Broly's attack.

Unlikely. U16 Piccolo stated on page 1601 that Majin Bra destroyed their supply and the Piccolos used up the rest in the Majin Arc.
So if Vegeta had approached members from U16 before the Majin Arc regarding Senzu beans or he approached Vegetto while they were on the asteroid, then that would be understandable. Still a poor decision to keep the origin of the beans a secret though.

>Mr Quill

I agree with you.
Except "mean" comments aren't constructive, I need constructive criticism to improve my work, not just read that it sucks.
Otherwise, to answer, my story was worked on long before it started and while it's far from perfect, I think I've managed to be loyal to Dragon Ball. You will tell me what you think of it when the story is well advanced and you know what it is about. (For now, this is sort of an introduction).

Secondo me invece sta facendo lo show alla Gotenks con Super Bu quando rischiò di far venire a Piccolo un esaurimento nervoso.

Nella scorsa pagina c'era un richiamo a Freezer quando venne colpito dall'onda di Goku... qui ci vedo una sorta di richiamo a Cell, quando prese in giro Vegeta fingendosi ferito a morte.
Sbaglierò, ma secondo me sta facendo il buffone alla Gotenks.

speravo che avremmo visto di più del flashback per comprendere il contesto in cui era stata detta quella frase.
Evidentemente lo scopriremo davvero nello Special, o almeno ci spero, Salagir non può lanciare il sasso e nascondere la mano proprio adesso u.u XD ;)

Il problema è che Vegeth ha al suo interno il Vegeta redento, che si sacrifica per la sua famiglia e che matura sensibilmente!
Non ha senso che abbia lati caratteriali del passato del personaggio. Lo avrebbe se i due si fossero fusi ai tempi di Cell, ma nel momento in cui si fondono Vegeta dovrebbe essere già un bravo ragazzo.

Come ho già detto nella pagina precedente (ma magari non hai letto il commento, l'ho pubblicato abbastanza tardi), quella è una fanart che puoi trovare sul profilo DeviantArt di Yoshio Nandayapa dove lui stesso dice che non è un'autentica copertina.
In ogni caso la allego sotto spoiler:Spoiler, clicca per visualizzare

Ragazzi, è una citazione a Capitan Marvel

al finale, dove il cattivo le dice "forza, combattiamo solo io e te, senza poteri". Sinceramente è un bel dualismo, visto che Carol Denvers è il personaggio più odiato del MCU, nell'ultimo periodo.

Tra l'altro questa è la tecnica con cui Vegeta ha ucciso Kyui se non sbaglio...

Che puttana.

It seems like Salagir didn't care TOO much about physics here ;)

For what concerns the amount of oxygen left in the barrier, let's do some MATH!

First of all, we need to assume some things: the barrier doesn't let air pass through, Babidi consumes approximately the same amount of oxygen as a adult human being, the density of O2 on the planet was the same as on Earth, as well as the air temperature.
That said, let's jump in!

I'll write down some numbers which you all can quickly find searching on the web; we don't care about exact values, so if you end up finding slightly different numbers, well, that's fine ;)
We consume 0.4 liters of O2 per minute.
Air is made by 21% of O2.
When O2 density goes below 10%, we pass out.

Given a volume V, 21% of it is filled with O2: the effective volume, useful for us, is Ve=0.21V.
Ve decreases in time with a rate vc, velocity of consumption (of O2), that is 0.4 l/min.
This means that the effective volume of O2 obeys to the following relation:
Ve(t) = Ve(t=0) - vc x t
We want to find the time of fainting tf.
This happens when Ve(tf) = 0.10V.
Therefore:
Ve(tf) = 0.10V = Ve(0) - vc x tf = 0.21V - vc x tf
Rearranging:
tf = (0.21-0.10)V/tf = 0.11V/vc
Expressing the total volume V in liters, we have the following numerical relation:
tf = 0.11V/0.4 min = V/3.64 min

Now we need to estimate the volume V of the barrier.
Let's approximate it with a sphere.
Judging from this page and the first of the chapter, and assuming that hairless Bra is 1.7 m tall, we can safely assume a radius R of approximately 2 m.
This gives a total volume within the sphere of 4/3 x pi x R^3 ≈ 32 m^3 (as any other physicist can confirm, pi is OF COURSE 3).
We now need to subtract the amount of volume that is not occupied by the air.
Let's neglect Babidi and Bra and only consider the ground beneath them.
We can safely assume that it is located 1 m away from the center of the sphere.
We can compute it as the volume of the slice of sphere projected from the center minus the truncated conus above it.
Assuming I did no mistake in this calculation, we end up with a reasonable 28 m^3 of available air.
Remembering that 1 m^3 = 10^3 l, we can finally find the time of fainting for the terrified warlock:

tf = V/3.64 min = 28000/3.64 min ≈ 7800 min.
So Bra was not wrong: Babidi indeed has oxygen for at least 10 minutes.
Just 800 times more, but better be safe than sorry, right? :P"

Questo collage fu postato mesi fà (ci ho aggiunto l'ultima copertina) ed era stato ipotizzato che il centro in effetti fosse dopo Babidi per via del motivo e i colori sfumati sullo sfondo (come si vede dalla freccia, che dividerebbe la rivolta in due parti - quella prima di Bra e quella dopo Bra) in effetti tornerebbe se ci contiamo questo come penultimo, e il prossimo (se Dio vuole) l'ultimo della rivolta.

Nappa can't be 8k strength. Remember how easily Goku defeated him in the OG Z. And Goku at that time was just over 8k himself. If Nappa was also 8k they'd have had an even fight, not a squash match.

>Then Kakarotto told his story

Really? THEN? So they FIRST jumped from planet to planet while changing ships, for days, and AFTER all that he told Vegeta and Nappa why his head was still on his shoulders? Why making them wait like that? Talk about a cliffhanger. XD

It's also very hard not to imagine Nappa asking "what's your story?" every 5 minutes since hour 2, making Kakarot even more insane.

Ed ecco la conferma definitiva che Kakaroth è immortale.
La cosa si fa molto interessante, adesso sono curioso di sapere come è riuscito ad esprimere un desiderio con le Sfere del Drago, dato che non poteva radunarle tutte...

@supergojita3 @MATTIA IL DIVINO @gast @Argelios



Time for me to pay up ;)

>MariusGon

nemmeno secondo me è serio quando dice di voler uccidere Nappa e Radish.
Resterebbe il solo Sayan sotto Freezer
e a questo punto della storia mi pare di ricordare che tutti gli altri Sayan sono morti e che Vegeta conosca già la verità sul fatto che la storia del meteorite fosse una bugia.

So have you read the novelization about why he needs so many senzu beans? It explains it there

>Lady Maria

A me l'ipotesi che Vegeth e figlia fossero in parte morti per via di Vegeta, è sempre piaciuta molto.
Mi è sempre piaciuto pensare che Vegeth deve mangiare senzu perché mezzo morto (con tutta una serie di scompensi) piuttosto che pensare che siccome è molto potente deve sostituire il cibo con i senzu. La trovo originale e particolare e inoltre darebbe a queste fusioni dei punti deboli.
Quindi sarebbe bello se Bra fosse per 1/4 morta e quindi obbligata a dare delle scariche di vita al suo organismo per non spegnersi.