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DBM evolves into a “1901 French Law Association”

After 10 years of existence, Dragon Ball Multiverse has become a very large structure. At its infancy, back in 2008, there were three authors, a few thousand readers, no translators, no festivals, no or very little communication.

Today, several hundreds of members have participated in DBM, a good sixty are currently active, over a million readers throughout the world, three to four booths are organized each year in France and Belgium (ok, to be fair less these last two years)...

All this takes a lot of work. Maybe too much, sometimes. Because next to that, we have our day jobs to fill our refrigerators, our families, our friends (minus the last one, we don’t have time for that :-| ), our problems… We’re like most of you, actually :)

Therefore, to manage and perform our tasks, be they administrative, accountant, communication, media-related, festival-related, logistical, etc, but also to book our expenses properly (web server, booths at conventions, etc), we have decided to declare DBM a “association 1901” (french link for further info).

What it will really bring us

Responsibilities: DBM will from now on have a judicial status

Until now, everything that belongs to DBM (the website, the books, the gear for the conventions, etc) and the responsibilities (accidents…) directly depended on the DBM’s members (Salagir, Asura), etc. And we don’t exactly want to have these responsibilities indefinitely. In the event of a judicial problem, and accident or otherwise… the fact that DBM is now a declared association makes everyone safer. For example, we took an insurance.

A better cost management

DBM pays many fees to exist.

These fees include the likes of:

- The web server: just this entry costs close to 1.800€/year. Yup, such a large site, with many functionalities, and roughly 100.000 visits/day without crashing, it’s expensive.

- All the costs related to DBM booths in Manga festivals: space rental, vehicles, travel fares, book printing, lodging, etc.

- Soon: an administrative manager for the association.

Of course, thanks to the sales on our booths (and thanks to you, and thank you once more), we can afford these fees.

In addition, we are able to have a bank account that belongs solely to the association, which will vastly simplify our bookkeeping for expenditures and reimbursements, and bring transparency and simplicity to our financial management.

What should change

More festivals

In this new context, we should be able to organize more than 3-4 booths a year like we’ve done until now, and aiming towards going to new countries, with books translated in english by our dedicated translators.

A more dynamic website

For now these are just ongoing projects on hold, but it is highly likely we’ll evolve dragonball-multiverse.com!
More interactive features and more options for you… We won’t reveal everything just now, we’ll come back to it when it’s closer at hand!

Otherwise, there won’t be much of a difference for you, if only the guarantee you’ll see DBM stronger than ever. You’ll still read DBM for free, of course.

New revenues… and a manager

It won’t happen straight away, but it is possible the association will need new sources of income: an ad banner on the website, or a donation request, or another system to help finance the association, in addition to the revenues generated by the sales of books during festivals.

Why this need? As said earlier, it’s highly likely the association will require the services of a manager to… manage it. Manage its administration, accounting, legal obligations… Different tasks we don’t know how to do, or that we don’t have the time to do (properly) for such a large association; however they are absolutely essential to ensure the survival of the association. What’s more, the manager will surely be able to help us in other tasks: communication within the team, with our readers, contact festivals, artists, etc...

The services of this manager will not be free. Just like for the server of our website, our booths, our printed books, our drawing material, in short, everything that has allowed us to propose DBM for 10 years… well, it has a cost ;)

Therefore, in layman’s terms, it will help us cover these extra costs. At least, that’s the idea :P

More time for the art

Delegating these tasks will also allow certain members to DBM to focus their time on their art. Notably Salagir, who, instead of doing the accounting, administration, and handling conflicts between moderators or readers, will be able to spend more time on what he initially wanted from DBM: the scenario!!

There, now you know absolutely everything! You can comment below and leave your opinions, we’ll answer.

Your comments about this page :

2018-07-20 22:38:57

Alexis

Less specials for a year would be a nice way to celebrate.
2018-07-20 22:50:23

Invader Jim

Sweet as.
2018-07-20 22:56:07

Dbz fan

A U13 chapter about vegeta defeating frieza on namek?
2018-07-20 23:53:07

SuperRaditz

Thanks infinitely for all the free story we've been getting for the last decade. We are all in debt to you eternally!
2018-07-21 00:02:47

Argelios

So for the readers: basically a new updated website that contains some adds?
Great. no problem for me, I'm willing to donate if necessary.

I am intrigued.
2018-07-21 00:17:45

JKRevan

As long as Salagir avoids the all too common trap of webcomics that seek extra revenue to stay afloat

Paid-only chapters.

Seriously, DONT DO THAT.
2018-07-21 00:23:01

Thealmightyinfinite just call me greg

I just want to say I greatly appreciate all your hard work in creating the best fanmade dragonball comic and best to ever exist....that is all
2018-07-21 00:52:27

VoidSlayer

Hey, if it makes it easier for you guys to operate while letting us all enjoy a quality comic about our favourite anime/manga then this sounds like a really smart move on your part.
Ultimately seeing where this story leads, seeing the different character interactions and eventually who wins it is what we all came for when we discovered DBM. Some might whinge but really- we all enjoy the work you all put out, all for free soley for our great entertainment.

2018-07-21 01:59:05

iron leaf

More festivals
aiming towards going to new countries
[IMAGE]

Did you guys ever considered visiting Connichi (Germany)?

2018-07-21 02:53:14

Spooky

If it meant a page daily I'd be happy to pay a subscription fee of $1.99 (US) a month
With millions (1) of subscribers I'm sure half (500,000) would sign up for it. That's an income of almost $1,000,000 a month. I'm also sure in that million a lot would go licensing fees but that's still a substantial profit. And then you have a business.
2018-07-21 03:09:40

Anonymous Entity

Hallelujah!
2018-07-21 03:57:57

MB

DBM books in English?? Booths in more countries? I'm hyperventilating...

I will donate as soon as the option appears.
2018-07-21 06:14:17

Megagutsman

>Alexis

Remember that specials give Salagir and the rest of the Team time to finish the pages of the main story. Without specials there could be weeks were no page is uploaded.

>Spooky

Third World countries exist, you know? Am sure that those that read the manga from those countries wont be able to pay that fee, believe me, am talking from experience.
2018-07-21 07:39:36

The reject

I'll donate I'll deal with ads anything for you guys
2018-07-21 12:21:24

Salagir

@JKRevan: Paid-only chapters. Seriously, DONT DO THAT.
Never.
We don't own DB and will NEVER, EVER, propose pay-only content.
2018-07-21 15:25:35

best guy

nothing to say..
2018-07-21 16:18:50

CHEwys

Excelent!!!
2018-07-21 16:34:56

Solus

I appreciate everything that is necessary to keep up the good work you all are doing. As many here, I would also donate money, if it helps you to bring more content.
2018-07-21 21:06:36

nastynappa

You guys have done an amazing job what happens if Salagir dies?
2018-07-21 21:08:54

Ideas

@Salagir
How about for subscribers, you get to see more drafts if pages? Like, Asura and the rest could do livestreams
2018-07-22 00:10:51

Agro

You guys do a fantastic job, keep it up
2018-07-22 02:28:44

The nick

Can't you get a Patreon?
2018-07-22 05:06:10

elp_tarkus71

Please come to Brazil
2018-07-22 16:27:21

TFS Hate

Just don't go the TFS route. Big income, no content. Don't fuck up.
2018-07-22 17:36:50

Sirio

These are very cool news. I hope in the future you will be able to do some events in Italy.
2018-07-22 19:50:44

MATTIA IL DIVINO

At long last! I'll cheer you on, and donate as soon as the option pops up. I really hope the content will benefit from this, instead of worsening. I'm talking about the specials, mostly, whose script and scenario are usually quite sketchy...
But for now, let's celebrate! :D
2018-07-22 20:13:07

DAMHAW

I've been reading for the past 9 years. I'll glady donate =)
2018-07-22 20:32:44

Super Saiyan God Vegeto

DBM is the only true continuation of DBZ

Many people would pay for this amazing content if given the opportunity, myself included

I’m just so happy that you’ve done what you could to keep this story going
2018-07-22 20:32:56

Timme

@Salagir

As a loyal fan from the comic i would gladly help. If i have to donate i will.

Futhermore, if you have troubles with finding a manager, my day job is controller, so administration is second nature for me.

If you need help, i am willing to help.
2018-07-22 20:34:26

Samael86

Anything that can help you guys to keep this awesome manga going i'm all for.

@Salagir: would this mean you would have more time to finish the final chapters of the Hanasia story?
2018-07-22 20:53:17

Rey Vegeta

No more minicomics
2018-07-22 20:59:41

Burnt

>@TFS Hate
Exactly what I was going to say - don't let the pursuit of money ruin what you do. They've lost their focus trying to do everything else.

That said, I'd be willing to chip in as thanks and appreciation for the years of free DBM entertainment!
2018-07-22 21:11:57

Kor Saiyajinkami

Awesome!!!
2018-07-23 00:38:22

DeathFromAbove

Sounds like you're just in it for the money
2018-07-23 18:52:27

Damian "Stalkerowy"

It's breathtaking how much DBM had to go through to come here today.
You're doing perfect work, keep it up!
Congratulations also, for everything.
2018-07-23 21:36:17

Tzigi

@iron leaf, MB, elp_tarkus71 (and anybody else who'd post about wanting to have DBM come to a festival in your country)
Be the change you wish to see. I wanted Salagir to come to Poland so I spoke with the organisers of the International Festival of Comics and Games in Łódź and they invited him (a very short story about it can be read here - only in French though), paid for his flight, hotel etc. So if you want DBM to come to your country: don't just ask, do something. There are surely comic/manga festivals in your country. They surely invite guests from all over the world. DBM is huge and interesting, Amilova is a cool concept - also of interest for comic creators etc. Talk to people and suggest things. If you don't change anything, there's quite a chance that others will be just as passive.
2018-07-24 03:58:15

Buubuubuu Buu Buu Buubuu

I would gladly make room on my bookcase for DM English manga.

shut up and take my money!!!
2018-07-24 06:07:49

MB

@Tzigi
Very interesting... Had I known that I held any power over who gets invited to such festivals I would have asked them for Salagir/DBM years ago. Of course I'm going to attempt that now :)
2018-07-24 06:32:55

Danny L

not sure what the regulations are for the 1901 law association, but in quickly reading the wikipedia article, it seems similar to the Not for Profit structure here. With that in the US, although the founder can serve on the board and manage the not for profit, they can get voted out and lose their control. Salagir, I know you put alot of time and effort into DBM and I am sure you did all the research before, but I just advise to be careful if deciding to go this route. From the comments, it seems like people can get angry or at least not agree with your direction very easily. With enough influence, they can vote you out so you won't have any control over the story.
2018-07-24 16:25:46

Pie

@Salagir
So now that you're going to reduce your workload will you be able to finish Hanasia?:S
2018-07-24 21:31:42

K

What's next? An anime? Good job, DBM team. I promise to disable adblock on this site.
2018-07-25 20:20:12

JKRevan

@Salagir
>We don't own DB and will NEVER, EVER, propose pay-only content.

Thank you for that reassurance.

Mind you, I absolutely adore your work, and i would, if i could, gladly financially support it, but Paid-only stuff is a huge dick-move.
2018-07-25 21:01:16

pip25

I am somewhat worried that even if the ads only pay for the server costs, getting any kind of revenue from DBM will cause issues with the copyright holders (not necessarily from Japan, but from elsewhere, like the US). I do hope I'll be proven wrong though.
2018-07-26 05:28:34

Akira Toriyama

cant wait for you to release an official manga on paper. I have been printing every page in triples since day one just so I would have multiple copies complete eventually. probably even be able to sell one for some nice coin too when its finished. would really like to buy an official copy though @Danny L then he just stops drawing it as well has refuses to give up the rest of the story. Basically he takes his ball and goes home. so if he was voted out it would effectively
end the series. he is under no obligation to share his ideas
2018-07-26 00:21:47

Janpet

Keep on growing until you are an anime. Good Job.
2018-07-26 00:32:26

Caihlem

@Danny L
You mean we can vote Salagir out and breathe ??? :D
Hmm... but if the coup fails, his wrath will be worse than Freiza's
2018-07-26 09:43:04

Your nick!

@Paid-only chapters.

Exactly what garbage south korean webtoons do
2018-07-27 23:18:00

Titan

Hello dbm , have you considered creating a patreon (or a similar service) ? No need for rewards it would be just a way of saying thank you and contribute as much as we can as well
Technically there should be no legal issues , it worked out for teamfourstar and they have the most popular parody , even toei knows it exists
2018-07-28 23:01:25

Tommy SuperNova

Salagir you really don't have to do this, if you want more time, just outline sketch your rough draft designs only since your artists usually have to redraw them anyway. Your website is fine, it's kinda grandfathered in as 'your unique look' redesigning it will probably take more time money and effort and will be incompatible with older browser types.
Donations may be a problem because you are asking to pay for people to keep making content they have no rights to.
Please don't listen to the internet, they are anonymous and will not get in trouble for telling you to go forward with this. You can have an insurance policy without making a whole company.
2018-07-29 01:32:52

Caihlem

@Tommy SuperNova
> if you want more time, just outline sketch your rough draft designs only since your artists usually have to redraw them anyway.
That's not how pages are made. (There's actually a video made by Ouv on this topic.) He writes 9 panels per page, detailing what the view is and the text. Then the artists draw. That's not the time-consuming part. What's time-consuming is getting the overall story, and ALSO first and foremost, the administrative tasks related to DBM.

> your website is fine [etc]
The idea isn't to redesign the site from scratch. A tweak here, a tweak there. Plus, it's on the back-burners, so it's not what's taking all his time (as said above, the the administrative stuff).
> [...] compatible with older browser types
Unless you're running an outdated system which shouldn't exist, or the site owner doesn't know what he's doing, this point is moot.

> Donations may be a problem because you are asking to pay for people to keep making content they have no rights to.
That's the definition of ANY donation. Unless you mean we're asking for people to donate to us and WE don't have the rights, then you're technically correct, but that doesn't mean you're right. Indeed, we don't have the rights, but we are allowed to operate without getting poorer. As long as we don't personally gain, then it's perfectly accepted in the industry.

> Please don't listen to the internet
Because we are where right now? :)

> You can have an insurance policy without making a whole company
Ok, so first of all, it's not a company, it's an association. There is a difference. Companies exist to earn money. Associations are just legal entities. (As said earlier, we can't run DBM "for profit".)
Secondly, no we couldn't. We could each on our own have insurances, but not as a whole. (Side-note, insurance is useful for conventions-only related activities.) If each member of the staff attending a convention needs a seperate insurance, we'll increase the paperwork many folds over - thus taking EVEN MORE time for administration, and therefore less time free for creation.

As Salagir said, the aim wasn't to change how DBM was operating, but ensure it'll keep operating as is.
2018-07-29 23:29:00

Hi

What's "the scenario"?
2018-08-05 03:25:37

Grimwolf

english books? im sold ^^
wish you best of luck!
2018-08-07 21:33:23

RIPIRIUS

Want Animated Adaptation!
2018-08-10 21:09:01

MurfDog

Thank you for all that you do! Know that your work is appreciated and loved world wide! I have been a fan for over 8 years once I found you all. I remember you hitting page 100 if that makes any difference. :-) We all really appreciate the GREAT work that you do! Thank you!!!
2018-08-11 16:40:00

Yassine_elm

"at the beginning we had just a few thousand readers" My end goal is to get few thousands of people reading my comic. Otherwise good job, been here since 2016
2018-08-13 09:41:55

AnsweritJs!

Im a big fan of the comic and I have been since roughlt 2010. how can I donate to you guys??
2018-08-14 16:45:37

Caihlem

@AnsweritJs!
If and when we proceed with this option, we will give all the details ;)
2018-08-19 05:30:14

Muffin button

@RIPIRIUS

There is a 5 ep one on youtube not sure if it is fanmade or dbm official but it's pretty cool
2018-08-20 00:18:12

Caihlem

@RIPIRIUS
If we do not propose an animated version, it's because the work we have for the comic alone is already very time-consuming. The time it would require to make a half-decent animation isn't worth it for us. We're focused on the comic, and that's already a tremendous workload.

@Muffin Button
It's amazing, and it's from a fan of DBM, not the DBM team. (It's an awesome job they did)

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