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Wind Demon
28 Februarie 2022
Paradise Lost was saying:
Didn't Goku get shot in the head by a sniper during the Red Ribbon Arc? I doubt bullets would do anything to Saiyans, save maybe for babies and toddlers.
Exactly. Kid Goku took a shoot from a sniper rifle (or a DMR) and shrugged it off with just a simple "ooow".
And this is Goku and the end of the RR Army arc, meaning, before the 22nd Budokai.
Here's where it happens:
https://i...2FkjA%3D%3D&;
(chapter 94, go to pg 11)
And here's where Goku takes a direct hit from an ATGM, with only very minor scarring:
https://i...Cf7IA%3D%3D&;
(chapter 95, go to pg 4)
Wind Demon
9 Ianuarie 2022
I wonder what happened to all of the potential Zen Buu parts that are still in Universe 4.
I highly doubt Zen Buu went fully complete into this tournament, without leaving any parts of himself behind in his own native universe.
It just doesn't seem like him.
Unless XXI's magical incantation was so powerful that it also works cross-universes, and that it also sucked in pieces of Buu from Universe 4. 1 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 1986
I highly doubt Zen Buu went fully complete into this tournament, without leaving any parts of himself behind in his own native universe.
It just doesn't seem like him.
Unless XXI's magical incantation was so powerful that it also works cross-universes, and that it also sucked in pieces of Buu from Universe 4. 1 Replie(s)
Wind Demon
9 Martie 2021
akatsukigogeta was saying:
By the time uub is a teen like that gokus base form is as strong as his ssj3 form in the majin buu arc. Ssj3 on top of that is 160k times stronger than base majin buu arc goku.
The assumption that Goku's base form is equal to his SSj3 self from Z is a thing that applies to DBGT Goku.
It does not apply to DBM Goku.
Even in Age 794 (the year in which DBM tournament takes place), U18 Goku's base form is still weaker than 100% Freeza from Namek.
This special takes place in U20 in Age 786 (2 years after the end of Z, and 8 years before the DBM tournament).
There is no reason to believe that U20 Goku in Age 786 is any stronger or weaker than how U18 Goku was in Age 786.
MUI was saying:
Broly doesnt need to be SSJ Vegito here. He could be Buutens/Buuhan tier. That is more then enough to oneshot Gohan or SSJ3 Goku.
I agree.
Buutenks tier would probably be more than enough to curb-stomp both Ultimate Gohan, and SSj3 Goku.
This Broly right now is probably Buutenks tier (maybe Buuhan tier).
In the next 8 years he is going to get to SSj Vegitto tier, by getting stuck in an ice block while transformed into his LSSj form (which in DBM makes his power grow the longer he stays in it).
P.S - It's a little bit insane thinking about it...that Broly can actually reach Buutenks/Buuhan levels of power. God forbid SSj Vegitto tier of power.
I've never been a Broly fan, nor someone who wanks up Broly's power.
To me, LSSj Broly from the movies tops out in his Movie 10 appearance, and his level of power at that point was a strong SSj2 tier. (Comparable to, or maybe slightly stronger than Majin SSj2 Vegeta from the Buu saga).
Wind Demon
5 Septembrie 2020
MUI Vegitp was saying:
yes if she is weak by vegetto standards, then the warrior isnt anything compared to vegetto, so the warrior wont rip off vegetto's head after all
I agree that she won't be doing any "ripping Vegetto's head off". But there is a simple explanation for that.
Nobody in the universe has ever really seen Vegetto in anything above his base form.
Heck, even his base form is already stronger than Ultimate Gohan, so I doubt that anyone in the universe has even seen the full power of his base.
That is why the "Mamazon" thinks she is going to rip his head off. She has no idea just how powerful Vegetto really is.
Slower_than_Guldo was saying:
Bojack was absolutely stronger than SSJ grade 2. Gohan was losing to him at grade 4. I'd put him at Super Perfect Cell level. Still loses to a SSJ2, but probably bodies anything less.
Bojack, when at full power, is on par with regular Perfect Cell, which means he's still noticeably weaker than Super-Perfect Cell.
And it seems that Salagir agrees with me, going by what U17 Cell said to Bojack on Page 616.
Wind Demon
3 Septembrie 2020
MUI Vegitp was saying:
hmmmm the warrior is probally weak if her level is equal to bra ssj
Considering that 16 year old SSj Bra is already getting close to the ballpark of Ultimate Gohan, then this 12 year old SSj Bra should be already getting close to the ballpark of SSj3 Goku from the Buu saga.
And if this "Mamazon" Jaykal/Herajin (whatever she is) can keep up with 12 year old SSj Bra, then she is by no means weak.
Sure, she is weak if we go by Vegetto standards, but by universe standards in general, she is actually very strong.
Heck, she is already much stronger than Bojack ever was, their supposed "idol" (or whatever Bojack is to this bunch).
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Wind Demon
13 August 2020
Turbocharger was saying:
Is it ever confirmed how strong they are in base compared to Frieza tho? I thought a lot of people believed that they are even stronger?
Well...page 996 and page 997 give some hints.
Why did U18 Goku transform into SSj when faced up against U8 Freeza, who's not even at 100% ?
(U8 Freeza is implied to be at the same level as Namek Freeza, the notable difference being that U8 Freeza has better control of his original form)
Wind Demon
13 August 2020
Shouldn't they at least transform into SSj ?!
I say this because even U18 Goku and Vegeta in their base forms are still noticably weaker than Freeza at full power.
If Gorkor is really stronger than Freeza at his maximum, it means he can easily speed blitz and kill them, unless they turn SSj immediately.
But then again, when Gorkor said that he is stronger than Lord Freeza, he could have meant Freeza's first form.
If that's the case then he is really nothing special, because I am pretty sure all of the "normal" base Saiyans are considerably
stronger than Freeza's third form, never mind his first one. 2 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 1768
I say this because even U18 Goku and Vegeta in their base forms are still noticably weaker than Freeza at full power.
If Gorkor is really stronger than Freeza at his maximum, it means he can easily speed blitz and kill them, unless they turn SSj immediately.
But then again, when Gorkor said that he is stronger than Lord Freeza, he could have meant Freeza's first form.
If that's the case then he is really nothing special, because I am pretty sure all of the "normal" base Saiyans are considerably
stronger than Freeza's third form, never mind his first one. 2 Replie(s)
Wind Demon
7 Iunie 2020
Xeno was saying:
Wind Demon was saying: It's ok Xeno, no need to worship U16 Bra so much, she gets enough of that already, and I dare to say even from the writer himself.
I would rather say that since I'm just stating what I get from what the author tries to tells us and, as you say Salagir woships her so much, it makes sense if it seems like I "worship" her too. It means I'm right. XD
Wind Demon was saying: Because if she were anything special, or anything near Vegetto tier, then a Special Beam Cannon, fired from an ultimate Gohan tier Cell, charged or not, wouldn't have even made a dent in her armor, much less take her arm off.
We've seen many times a fully charged attack heavily damage a surprised stronger enemy. That same SBC, Vegeta's Final Flash... But I agree with you. A character of her tier shouldn't get bothered from mystic tiers, it was one of my main complaints during this arc (not just Bra's battle), PLs have been really inconsistent. Gohan vs Cell, Piccolo vs Cold demons, don't even get me started on Videl's KK, and Bra could get hit or completely humiliate 5 guys depending on the page. Based on that, since the "not serious" thing may exist, I have to consider her "max" power shown as her true power cause it's either that or nothing makes any sense.
Wind Demon was saying: It's obvious Ginyu is just being arrogant and has no clue what's he even saying.
Maybe. But Vegetto going SSJ2 and then SSJ3 to win matches that sentence. If as a SSJ2 he's TEN times stronger, why does he go SSJ3? For funzies? As a little reminder, Salagir believes a small diference is really significant and that's why Ozaru is x3 instead of x10, so what does a x10 stronger Vegetto even do going for a x40 if a x2 is a massive difference? Even in DBZ that would be way too much, so here...
Wind Demon was saying: Especially since Vegetto said "Even my little Bra isn't close to tenth of my level" on page 1257.
Just to point it out, he also says on the same sentence "no one in any universe can", and that is an obvious lie. Any Broly can. Zen Buu is probably way closer than 1/10 of his power too and he knows it. Unlike the previous sentence, I can see that as an hyperbole (either ego eating Vegetto or Vegetto trying to intimidate Ginyu) cause it doesn't match with the facts.
BUT, for Bra on that context, that's probably around true. The Bra he talks about can't really SSJ2 and he assumes Ginyu can't either (they're both SSJ at that point), so he probably thinks of "her little Bra" as SSJ Bra. If we assume the commonly accepted multipliers for SSJ2 and 3, just with SSJ3 vs SSJ he already is 8 times stronger than her, even assuming she's as strong at base. Since she isn't, just almost, that can easily go to around the 1/10th he talks about. But SSJ2 MAJIN Bra obviously is way closer than that for many reasons.
Wind Demon was saying: Also, don't even get me started on the whole bullshit, how was Ginyu even able to figure out SSj and SSj2 by being inside of Bra's body for, what, 15-20 minutes ?!
That is BS indeed. It's pretty inconsistent with what happened with Goku and the excuse (cause she eeeeviiiil) isn't good. XD But it's kinda unrelated, if anything he being weaker would mean Bra is even stronger.
Wind Demon was saying: Second - Even base kid Gotenks from the Buu saga should be considerably stronger than regular Perfect Cell level. Should? Why? The only guy he fights like that is Fat Bu, and he gets humiliated, so we can only know he's way weaker than Goku SSJ3 and that's it. Also as a SSJ he's still notably weaker than super Bu, so he's probably around Goku SSJ3 tier there (probably slightly stronger). If we assume the usual x50 from SSJ, his base form is way weaker than Perfect Cell.
Wind Demon was saying: Adult Gotenks should be even stronger in base form due to natural growth.
Natural growth is BS in DB and you know it. Also on Bra's special he does seem stronger than her (as a kid) but not by much really. And back then she barely knew how to SSJ properly. In any case, yeah, Gotenks SSJ3 can hurt Bra, obviously. He has the power. It's just the source for his power is known by Bra, and easy to dodge with her skills.
Wind Demon was saying: Third - we are yet to see Gast's true power
Sure. That's possible. And if that happens, Ghast may join the list. For now however we have a guy who struggled against a SSJ3 and had no reason whatsoever to hide his "true" power while getting completely destroyed by Vegeta and badly hurt by Hatchi. Unless he enjoys getting hurt. The M Namekian, what a twist! To each his own I guess. XD
Wind Demon was saying: Fourth - I forgot to throw in one more potential candidate who can hurt Bra... U18 Uub with a high level Kaioken.
That is probably true. He already almost SSJ3 tier before and KK is the central station of BS power ups (my gravatar being the most perfect example of that), so an "improved KK" can mean anything really, same for some of Bu's magic. So yeah, he may be able to.
I would rather say that since I'm just stating what I get from what the author tries to tells us and, as you say Salagir woships her so much, it makes sense if it seems like I "worship" her too. It means I'm right. XD
Wind Demon was saying: Because if she were anything special, or anything near Vegetto tier, then a Special Beam Cannon, fired from an ultimate Gohan tier Cell, charged or not, wouldn't have even made a dent in her armor, much less take her arm off.
We've seen many times a fully charged attack heavily damage a surprised stronger enemy. That same SBC, Vegeta's Final Flash... But I agree with you. A character of her tier shouldn't get bothered from mystic tiers, it was one of my main complaints during this arc (not just Bra's battle), PLs have been really inconsistent. Gohan vs Cell, Piccolo vs Cold demons, don't even get me started on Videl's KK, and Bra could get hit or completely humiliate 5 guys depending on the page. Based on that, since the "not serious" thing may exist, I have to consider her "max" power shown as her true power cause it's either that or nothing makes any sense.
Wind Demon was saying: It's obvious Ginyu is just being arrogant and has no clue what's he even saying.
Maybe. But Vegetto going SSJ2 and then SSJ3 to win matches that sentence. If as a SSJ2 he's TEN times stronger, why does he go SSJ3? For funzies? As a little reminder, Salagir believes a small diference is really significant and that's why Ozaru is x3 instead of x10, so what does a x10 stronger Vegetto even do going for a x40 if a x2 is a massive difference? Even in DBZ that would be way too much, so here...
Wind Demon was saying: Especially since Vegetto said "Even my little Bra isn't close to tenth of my level" on page 1257.
Just to point it out, he also says on the same sentence "no one in any universe can", and that is an obvious lie. Any Broly can. Zen Buu is probably way closer than 1/10 of his power too and he knows it. Unlike the previous sentence, I can see that as an hyperbole (either ego eating Vegetto or Vegetto trying to intimidate Ginyu) cause it doesn't match with the facts.
BUT, for Bra on that context, that's probably around true. The Bra he talks about can't really SSJ2 and he assumes Ginyu can't either (they're both SSJ at that point), so he probably thinks of "her little Bra" as SSJ Bra. If we assume the commonly accepted multipliers for SSJ2 and 3, just with SSJ3 vs SSJ he already is 8 times stronger than her, even assuming she's as strong at base. Since she isn't, just almost, that can easily go to around the 1/10th he talks about. But SSJ2 MAJIN Bra obviously is way closer than that for many reasons.
Wind Demon was saying: Also, don't even get me started on the whole bullshit, how was Ginyu even able to figure out SSj and SSj2 by being inside of Bra's body for, what, 15-20 minutes ?!
That is BS indeed. It's pretty inconsistent with what happened with Goku and the excuse (cause she eeeeviiiil) isn't good. XD But it's kinda unrelated, if anything he being weaker would mean Bra is even stronger.
Wind Demon was saying: Second - Even base kid Gotenks from the Buu saga should be considerably stronger than regular Perfect Cell level. Should? Why? The only guy he fights like that is Fat Bu, and he gets humiliated, so we can only know he's way weaker than Goku SSJ3 and that's it. Also as a SSJ he's still notably weaker than super Bu, so he's probably around Goku SSJ3 tier there (probably slightly stronger). If we assume the usual x50 from SSJ, his base form is way weaker than Perfect Cell.
Wind Demon was saying: Adult Gotenks should be even stronger in base form due to natural growth.
Natural growth is BS in DB and you know it. Also on Bra's special he does seem stronger than her (as a kid) but not by much really. And back then she barely knew how to SSJ properly. In any case, yeah, Gotenks SSJ3 can hurt Bra, obviously. He has the power. It's just the source for his power is known by Bra, and easy to dodge with her skills.
Wind Demon was saying: Third - we are yet to see Gast's true power
Sure. That's possible. And if that happens, Ghast may join the list. For now however we have a guy who struggled against a SSJ3 and had no reason whatsoever to hide his "true" power while getting completely destroyed by Vegeta and badly hurt by Hatchi. Unless he enjoys getting hurt. The M Namekian, what a twist! To each his own I guess. XD
Wind Demon was saying: Fourth - I forgot to throw in one more potential candidate who can hurt Bra... U18 Uub with a high level Kaioken.
That is probably true. He already almost SSJ3 tier before and KK is the central station of BS power ups (my gravatar being the most perfect example of that), so an "improved KK" can mean anything really, same for some of Bu's magic. So yeah, he may be able to.
In regards to the whole Vegetto vs Majin Bra thing... I suppose that we will just have to wait and see, won't we.
But, if this Majin SSj2 Bra turns out to be a problem for SSj Vegetto, and God forbid for SSj2 Vegetto, then there are 3 possible explanations:
1) DBM simply stopped caring about power scaling, and is slowly taking the DBS route in that regard.
2) Vegetto's power got downgraded, significantly.
3) Majin boost gives it's subjects one heck of a power increase, boosting their power by a factor of something like 20x or more.
(And I say again - the best I can see the Majin boost is 2x increase, perhaps 3x increase if I really high-ball it).
P.S. - Personally, if this happens, then the most likely culprits are either 1) or 3) (Or the combination of both).
Wind Demon
6 Iunie 2020
Xeno was saying:
Wind Demon was saying:
1. yeah
2. probably
3. I wonder
4- yeah, but he's not around anymore, so no. And even if he was, she can just make him "disappear" with a couple of ITs.
5. Kinda cheating, if we say that we can say U18 Gogeta, Gogohan, and a pretty huge amount of fusions. But anyway, base form is stronger than Bra's? Says who? Really asking, I don't remember anything about that and it sounds weird. There doesn't seem to be a huge gap between Bra and Vegetto (says Ginyu), and if Gotenks is even stronger than her and has SSJ3, at some point he's pretty much Vegetto, and he really doesn't look like such a big deal.
Also note that his SSJ3 fusions lasts barely nothing. Bra just needs to dance around for a bit (or just IT away) and then kick Trunks' ass when the fusion breaks. Even if they can fuse again, they can't survive a single hit while they're not fused, so I'm pretty sure Bra can win this easily, even if they actually were stronger while fused.
6. Bra is nothing special cause a Mystic Gohan tier Cell hits her with a charged makankosappo out of nowhere and hurts her, but Ghast is special even though he struggled against a SSJ3 ghost Vegeta? Why? I don't know how strong Ghast is, but he never showed anything to make us think he's close to Gohan's tier, much less Bra's.
1. yeah
2. probably
3. I wonder
4- yeah, but he's not around anymore, so no. And even if he was, she can just make him "disappear" with a couple of ITs.
5. Kinda cheating, if we say that we can say U18 Gogeta, Gogohan, and a pretty huge amount of fusions. But anyway, base form is stronger than Bra's? Says who? Really asking, I don't remember anything about that and it sounds weird. There doesn't seem to be a huge gap between Bra and Vegetto (says Ginyu), and if Gotenks is even stronger than her and has SSJ3, at some point he's pretty much Vegetto, and he really doesn't look like such a big deal.
Also note that his SSJ3 fusions lasts barely nothing. Bra just needs to dance around for a bit (or just IT away) and then kick Trunks' ass when the fusion breaks. Even if they can fuse again, they can't survive a single hit while they're not fused, so I'm pretty sure Bra can win this easily, even if they actually were stronger while fused.
6. Bra is nothing special cause a Mystic Gohan tier Cell hits her with a charged makankosappo out of nowhere and hurts her, but Ghast is special even though he struggled against a SSJ3 ghost Vegeta? Why? I don't know how strong Ghast is, but he never showed anything to make us think he's close to Gohan's tier, much less Bra's.
It's ok Xeno, no need to worship U16 Bra so much, she gets enough of that already, and I dare
to say even from the writer himself.
First - Yes, she is nothing special and I stand by what I've said.
Because if she were anything special, or anything near Vegetto tier, then a Special Beam Cannon, fired from an ultimate Gohan tier Cell, charged or not, wouldn't have even
made a dent in her armor, much less take her arm off, and while she was an SSj2 !
(An attack like that would have taken an arm off base Vegetto, but I doubt it would even dent SSj Vegetto, much less SSj2 Vegetto).
Also, can you link a page where exactly Ginyu said that the gap between Bra and Vegetto isn't that big ?!
PS. - Never mind I've found it. Page 1259
It's obvious Ginyu is just being arrogant and has no clue what's he even saying. He is obviously drunk on power from entering another body, far more powerful than Cold.
I wouldn't take anything Ginyu says even remotely seriously. Especially since Vegetto said "Even my little Bra isn't close to tenth of my level" on page 1257.
Also, don't even get me started on the whole bullshit, how was Ginyu even able to figure out SSj and SSj2 by being inside of Bra's body for, what, 15-20 minutes ?!
Second - Even base kid Gotenks from the Buu saga should be considerably stronger than regular Perfect Cell level. Adult Gotenks should be even stronger in base form due to natural growth. On the other hand, base Bra barely even reaches regular Perfect Cell level. The only downside to Gotenks is that he is essentially an over-powered gag character who can't get anything done. So, even if he has overwhelming power, he will get defeated trough some stupidity. That's the entire "purpose" of his existence.
Third - we are yet to see Gast's true power, which I honestly believe to be above Ultimate Gohan level. Add to that his telekinetic abilities which were able to
subdue even someone like Zen Buu for short duration. (Although, Zen Buu could have let himself be manipulated on purpose).
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Wind Demon
5 Iunie 2020
Interior Day was saying:
I'm thinking about who could give her a run for her money right now and I can think of Broly, Vegetto, Zen Buu, XXI, Gotenks... and I think that's it. Even those ones are uncertain, she might well be #2 or #3 in all the universes in terms of strength at the moment.
I'm thinking about who could give her a run for her money right now and I can think of Broly, Vegetto, Zen Buu, XXI, Gotenks... and I think that's it. Even those ones are uncertain, she might well be #2 or #3 in all the universes in terms of strength at the moment.
1.Vegetto
2.Zen Buu
3.XXI
4.Broly
5.U18 Gotenks (has stronger base form than Bra, one transform state more than her, and also has additional upgrades given to him by Zen Buu)
6.Gast (most likely, with his combination of magic and power, which btw i think is higher than Ultimate Gohan's power.)
Majin Bra SSj2 is nothing special.
She would have been long since down for the count if not for her Senzu spam.
Heck, just U17 Cell had left her missing an arm.
And where is all the rest of the damage she received, and then recovered from, thanks to the Senzu spam ?!
As I've said...if not for the Senzu spam => Majin Bra SSj2 would be long since K.O-ed. 3 Replie(s)
Wind Demon
5 Iunie 2020
عمار was saying:
So being a God is all about being the strongest? Is that what's all about? Not protecting the universe from potential threats?
So being a God is all about being the strongest? Is that what's all about? Not protecting the universe from potential threats?
I find it interesting how you think that a God has a "default setting" obligation to be protective to anything or anyone.
That kind of God might exist in an ideal utopian existence.
It's like you are completely unfamiliar with any piece of real-life ancient mythology. (Which I find hard to believe)
Let's just take Greek mythology for example (although there are many more examples in other Mythologies).
More than half of Greek gods were douche bags, most of the time.
So, in a non-utopian universe, a God such as Beerus not giving 2 farts about what is going on in the Universe bellow him...well it isn't unusual.
As a matter of fact, it is very much in-character with examples of gods and deities from real-life mythologies.
And, believe it or not, it's also in-character for Beerus to blow up a planet because he doesn't like the food there.
Again, there are plenty examples of real-life mythological Gods getting pissed off by trivial things, and punishing their subjects for it. 1 Replie(s)
Wind Demon
4 Iunie 2020
عمار was saying:
This comic has no need for a lazy cat who call himself god.
This comic has no need for a lazy cat who call himself god.
Lazy cat?
— Yes
Calls himself a god?
— He is much more of a God than these pathetic Kaio weaklings, who call themselves Gods, but around them you have two dozen mortals
who are stronger, and some even ways stronger.
Really, it's pathetic for something to be called "a God", if you have two dozen mortals who can (or already have) easily surpass them. Ridiculously pathetic.
At least in universe 7, Beerus has been surpassed by a mortal only once, and only temporary.
But I get it, anti-DBS sentiment is strong here.
Dude was saying:
Shouldn't have hit the Gohan button.
U16 Bra loved her Gohan as family. The Majin made her kill him. So kinda a touchy subject as Bra hates herself for not stopping herself.
U16 Bra loved her Gohan as family. The Majin made her kill him. So kinda a touchy subject as Bra hates herself for not stopping herself.
I am more convinced she killed the fatso-Kaioshin due to him being a Supreme Kai, and Babidi hating the guts of anything Supreme Kai related.
I don't think this Bra right now gives 2 shits about emotions, family connections, or about any Gohan buttons, Daddy buttons...etc.
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Wind Demon
4 Iunie 2020
AsianPersuasion0 was saying:
considering how vegito had to go ss3 just to beat ss2 bra, I would say she's pretty close.
Vegito also said he wanted to finish things quickly, and also did one shot her, so I don't think he needed ss3 to win.
however, ginyu bra also said that at ss2, their levels aren't too far apart, and vegito looked like he was slightly struggling.
In the end I would say Vegito would probably win against ss2 Bra, but it would take a lot out of him.
just my opinion based on what i read
considering how vegito had to go ss3 just to beat ss2 bra, I would say she's pretty close.
Vegito also said he wanted to finish things quickly, and also did one shot her, so I don't think he needed ss3 to win.
however, ginyu bra also said that at ss2, their levels aren't too far apart, and vegito looked like he was slightly struggling.
In the end I would say Vegito would probably win against ss2 Bra, but it would take a lot out of him.
just my opinion based on what i read
Look, I really don't want to drink a ban, and thus will avoid the whole power scaling debate. But, if you guys think about it for a little bit...in order for
this Bra to be comparable to her SSj2 father, it would mean her base form should also be comparable to the base form of her father. And that is a big no-no, since
we know U16 Bra in base form barely clocks Perfect Cell level, while Vegito's base form should be at the very least twice as strong as Ultimate Gohan.
Unless you want to wank up the Majin boost and say it SOMEHOW multiplied her power by a factor of 20 or more. Which is ridiculous.
Super Gojita 3 was saying:
I think salagir put ssj3 vegetto vs ssj2 bra because asura asked to do it that way. it looked cool. his ssj1 is all he needed.
I think salagir put ssj3 vegetto vs ssj2 bra because asura asked to do it that way. it looked cool. his ssj1 is all he needed.
Exactly, regular SSj Vegito is all that is needed, both for SSj2 Bra, and for this Majinized SSj2 Bra version.
Unless we wank up the power gained trough Majin boost to epic proportions.
Wind Demon
4 Iunie 2020
@page
Useless and weak God, as per usual, nothing new here.
Man, this comic really needs Beerus to appear and slap the entire tournament down a peg or two.
SSj2 Bra equal to SSj2 Vegito ?! Yeah...maybe in dreams.
SSj2 Bra shouldn't be able to touch a hair on SSj2 Vegito.
Heck, SSj2 Bra shouldn't even be stronger than SSj Vegito, never mind SSj2 Vegito.
Especially if we consider 100x, 1000x and 10,000x power multipliers, which SSj transformations use in DBM.
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DB Multiverse page 1737
Useless and weak God, as per usual, nothing new here.
Man, this comic really needs Beerus to appear and slap the entire tournament down a peg or two.
seeking was saying:
hahah nope bra ssj2 is stronger than ssj3 goku to do it to bra only vegito ssj2 can do
ssj2 bra= ssj2 vegito
hahah nope bra ssj2 is stronger than ssj3 goku to do it to bra only vegito ssj2 can do
ssj2 bra= ssj2 vegito
SSj2 Bra equal to SSj2 Vegito ?! Yeah...maybe in dreams.
SSj2 Bra shouldn't be able to touch a hair on SSj2 Vegito.
Heck, SSj2 Bra shouldn't even be stronger than SSj Vegito, never mind SSj2 Vegito.
Especially if we consider 100x, 1000x and 10,000x power multipliers, which SSj transformations use in DBM.
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Wind Demon
30 Mai 2020
@page
As i've said on the previous page
a) her daddy
b) Zen Buu
c) some other less relevant character trough either magic, some hax technique, or trough pure PIS.
The whole "Babidi rebelion" started on page 1341, which came out and the end of June 2017, which means it's soon going to be 3 years.
The fight against Majin Bra isn't as long, but it did start over a year ago. (April 2019).
So, we are currently in the 8th chapter of Babidi's rebellion, and in the 3rd chapter of fight against Bra.
A very high possibility for that.
DB Multiverse page 1735
As i've said on the previous page
a) her daddy
b) Zen Buu
c) some other less relevant character trough either magic, some hax technique, or trough pure PIS.
Canshar was saying:
This fight with Bra hasn't been as long as many of you are making it seem. The problem is that we are reading it page by page not like a typical weekly or monthly manga. This is only the 3rd chapter of this fight, and if read in one shot it doesn't seem nearly as prolonged. I understand the criticism by fans here but I think a more balanced approach would be to review the comic as chapters not pages.
The whole "Babidi rebelion" started on page 1341, which came out and the end of June 2017, which means it's soon going to be 3 years.
The fight against Majin Bra isn't as long, but it did start over a year ago. (April 2019).
So, we are currently in the 8th chapter of Babidi's rebellion, and in the 3rd chapter of fight against Bra.
SynchroLad was saying:
Gohan= Next to die(?)
A very high possibility for that.
Wind Demon
28 Mai 2020
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Oh boy, after 3 months of not coming here, this fight is still ongoing.
Great art as always.
I agree. I very much doubt this attack of Gohan's is going to do anything. It's clear now that Bra will be defeated either by:
a) her daddy
b) Zen Buu
c) some third, less relevant character trough magic or PIS.
But, if you consider that SSj Bra should already be above Ultimate Gohan's level, and that this is SSj2 Bra with a Majin boost on top, it's a miracle she hasn't
won already, and is also a miracle that she had to chug down several Senzu beans by now just to keep herself in the fight.
Our dear Senzu-eating queen, she who never had to fight seriously for her life, and gets cocky and over-confident more frequently than Vegeta...which is saying a lot.
Spoiled OP brat.
P.S. - And I am still waiting for XXI to make a move. (And, by the looks of things, I will probably be waiting for a year or more)
DB Multiverse page 1734
Oh boy, after 3 months of not coming here, this fight is still ongoing.
Great art as always.
JustSaiyNo was saying:
Welp, time for Gohan to die. I have literally no faith that this will be any different than the previous twenty tries.
I agree. I very much doubt this attack of Gohan's is going to do anything. It's clear now that Bra will be defeated either by:
a) her daddy
b) Zen Buu
c) some third, less relevant character trough magic or PIS.
But, if you consider that SSj Bra should already be above Ultimate Gohan's level, and that this is SSj2 Bra with a Majin boost on top, it's a miracle she hasn't
won already, and is also a miracle that she had to chug down several Senzu beans by now just to keep herself in the fight.
Our dear Senzu-eating queen, she who never had to fight seriously for her life, and gets cocky and over-confident more frequently than Vegeta...which is saying a lot.
Spoiled OP brat.
P.S. - And I am still waiting for XXI to make a move. (And, by the looks of things, I will probably be waiting for a year or more)
Wind Demon
23 Martie 2020
godking was saying:
Oozaru Vegeta should be able to beat lord slug
Not quite. Salagir stated once that he considers Oozaru to be a 3x increase at best.
Since DBM is his comic, this Vegeta, even as an Oozaru, would still get creamed by 100K Lord Slug.
Wind Demon
2 Februarie 2020
Oh come on, the bean-eating queen is about to eat another one of those.
Senzu bean eating seems to be the main trope of this entire fight.
As a matter of fact, this entire fight is turning into one Senzu-ex-machima at it's finest.
I was really hoping that the home team would manage to handle the bean-eating queen without the help from the stranded team.
Now...I see they can't do jack against her without the stranded team's assistance, or better said...without the assistance of her daddy dearest.
You know what...I don't even care how this fight turns out.
I'll come back in a month or two, after this fight is over. (And I sure hope it will be over by then, it's been going for long enough).
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Senzu bean eating seems to be the main trope of this entire fight.
As a matter of fact, this entire fight is turning into one Senzu-ex-machima at it's finest.
I was really hoping that the home team would manage to handle the bean-eating queen without the help from the stranded team.
Now...I see they can't do jack against her without the stranded team's assistance, or better said...without the assistance of her daddy dearest.
You know what...I don't even care how this fight turns out.
I'll come back in a month or two, after this fight is over. (And I sure hope it will be over by then, it's been going for long enough).
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Wind Demon
29 Octombrie 2019
Beat-kun was saying:
@wind demon on old section
That wasn’t galick gun tho. It was the final burst cannon. The attack he used before frieza deflected it? Yeah. Not galick gun.
That wasn’t galick gun tho. It was the final burst cannon. The attack he used before frieza deflected it? Yeah. Not galick gun.
Yeah, my mistake.
Final burst cannon is supposed to be an advanced form/evolution of the Galick Gun attack.
And it got kicked into space like a soccer ball by Freeza, who at that time was using only a small percentage of his final form power.
Therefore, this situation is even worse for Vegeta, because he decided to use an inferior attack (basic Galick Gun) against an
opponent who's much stronger than even Freeza at 100%.
Cold, in his current state, should be able to literally slap this attack into space by casually waving his hand.
Or, even more impressive, fly straight trough the beam, and K.O. (or even kill) Vegeta in one punch to the gut.
(Similar like what happened in DBZ Movie 5 when augmented Cooler flew straight trough Goku's Kaioken-boosted Kamehameha.)
And my point still stands. Even if the Earth explodes from Vegeta's attack, given how powerful Cold is right now, and that he is also virtually
undamaged...he should be able to easily handle a planet exploding in his face.
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I agree...if IKL was serious about being a hero, he should have gone for XXI first...especially since he knows who or what XXI is.
Going for Vegeto first was just to get him out of the way...so that incoming chapters won't have him around. (Zen Buu was already sent away).
But then again, 99% of Dragonball characters are total morons when it comes to even a basic semblance of strategy. So this is just another "drop in the bucket" in that regard.
And if you think about it...Vegeto has been slowly getting humiliated and/or bashed ever since his battle against U20 Broly.
I am ok with a character having negative traits, especially if that character happens to be half-Vegeta, but cmon...Vegeto has been systematically destroyed
bit by bit since the early days of DBM and his battle against U20 Broly. And I don't just mean humiliated and destroyed in terms of power, but also in terms of personality.
(Bad father, impulsive, doesn't have patience for parenting, acting like a child sometimes, annoying sometimes, frequently arrogant...as if he picked up the worst possible combination of Goku's and Vegeta's individual traits).