[quote from="The Big Gete Star" id=197856]Prophete-Game was saying: You know? I feel like people forgets a little to easily that Vegeta and Buu have done far worse things than Bra (without the excuse of being mind controlled ) and yet were forgiven the moment they turned over a new leaf. It's almost a running gag at this point. Heck, even Frieza is having a redemption arc in Super.

1. Frieza is not having a redemption arc in Super. He just played the part of "potential next major villain" like two chapters ago.

2. Good Buu's body count is 1 person, Dabura, if you want to count Majin Buu as Good Buu, which is in and of itself dishonest. Our heroes did not befriend Evil Buu, Super Buu, or Kid Buu.

3. Let's look at Vegeta's case a bit closer than the one-sentence breakdown that everyone seems to go with for some reason:
— He was a villain in the Saiyan saga that got his ass kicked
— He was a villain in the Frieza saga that the heroes only worked with because they weren't strong enough to do anything on their own and he had bigger beef with Frieza than with them
— He was a villain in the Android saga who didn't want to help the heroes, only fight and kill Goku to satisfy his ego, but once again worked with the heroes because the androids were getting in the way of that
— He was a villain in the Cell saga who explicitly helped Cell just for fun
— He coexisted with the heroes in the timeskip because he was not a threat, and nobody could deal with him, and he lost all his ambitions
— He was a villain in the tournament arc, willing to turn evil and kill many people just to fight Goku again
— Literally the first thing he's ever done for the sake of other people was sacrificing himself to stop Buu, still went to hell after the fact and was only allowed to return to help Goku
— Turned a new leaf during the final battle

Nobody absolved him of his sins. Nobody forgave him or called him a friend or hero. Piccolo straight up went "nah G you're going to hell when you die" with absolute confidence. They all just tolerated him as either a useful yet evil power level in a fight against a greater threat or "that asshole who tried to kill us once but isn't really doing anything anymore." To disregard all the parts in the story where the Z fighters had stand-offs against him or were cautious around him is extremely dishonest. They didn't just "forgive him," that's not what happened in the story. He had to actually [i]turn good[i] before anyone got buddy-buddy with him, and that's a Super GT / End of Z exclusive status quo.

1. I don't watch Super so I'll take your word for it.

2. Fat Buu literally turned hundreds of people into chocolates and candies. The hose he built was made of humans transformed into clay.

3. Vegeta only officialy joined the good guys toward the end of the Cell saga (before that, he was a begrudging ally at best) so I'm gonna focus on the Buu saga.
— He wasn't sent to hell. King Yemma kept him around as backup and gave him a shot at redemption by sending him fight tall Buu.
— Piccolo merely answered to his question by stating what he thought was gonna happen based on his knowledge of the afterlife. He wasn't taunting him out of resentment.
— As far as I can tell, nobody ever brought up his betrayal after that, except maybe as a joke (if so, I don't recall).

I honestly think that having the dragon balls to fix any catastrophe and knowing with certitude what awaits them in the afterlife has made the characters far more forgiving than they would have been otherwise.

You know? I feel like people forgets a little to easily that Vegeta and Buu have done far worse things than Bra (without the excuse of being mind controlled ) and yet were forgiven the moment they turned over a new leaf. It's almost a running gag at this point. Heck, even Frieza is having a redemption arc in Super. 2 Odpowiedzi

Sooooo... Anyone knows who it was at the last panel? 1 Odpowiedzi

Probably a smart move. She doesn't have any way to predict, let alone counter XII's b*******. Gast on the other hand, may have a chance due to his magic. The safer bet was to pass on the universe 19's wish to him.