Everything is always trying to be as good as it can be.

Chibi, the silliest thing ever made, tries to keep the silly up. 321Y tries to tell an og-DB sort of story. They do well at that.

I didn't read Bardock, but the last page looks kind. It's also by the same author as this.

Hopefully he can ignore the crassness of a small portion of the criticism and grow from the rest.

So is that the house of roshi on tambo back or not?. The turtle hermit school of martial arts.

Again powerscaling is off. There are no absorption models that are stronger than android 16, 17, and 18. It’s even implied Gero decided to make 19 because the androids were too powerful when he relied on pure source and infinite energy. These androids do not have infinite power and must rely on absorbing. Gas should at the very least be around cell second form or perfect cell lv. It’s like saying gast would be weaker than kami piccolo at this point of the year when Gast received a major head start of already being android 16 lv at the fusion during namek arc. Makes no sense for his power to be lesser than it was years ago.

That's it, Namekseijin Densetsu is finished!
Started in 2014 and finished initially in 2016, concluding part 2 of the story, I decided to resume this story years later to conclude Piccolo's story.
Having made the manga 321Y in the meantime, I decided to make this third part a sequel, both to Namekseijin Densetsu, but also to 321Y by involving Tambo, a character that I really like.

I hope you enjoyed reading this story, even if I am far from having a high level of drawing. I put all my heart into this story.

With these last pages, we arrive very far in the future of Dragon Ball. About 600 years separate us from the end of Dragon Ball, I wanted to show with this ending that even if the danger is always present (whether it's Bracaa or something else), Piccolo will always make sure to be able to defend the planet Namek, from his hands or from those of his successors.

After 561 pages, this fan-manga is coming to an end and I'm quite happy to have been able to share it with you.

Early 2025 will see the beginning of my new fan-manga. I hope you'll like it!

Thank you all for taking the time to read my pages and talk about it with me here or elsewhere, thank you to Salagir for allowing me to share it on the DBM website.

See you soon for new adventures, long live Dragon Ball!

Are we sure this personality is Gohans'?
And this Buu should be far weaker than the one in Chapter 81.

she learned it from Krillin and Tien. We don't know much about how she became a student of theirs, or the Mr. Satan of u9.

Probably my favorite addition from the novel is seeing U18 clear up the preconceptions U9 has about them. Kind of wish that was worked into the comic somewhere too

Huh... This made me think... Why didn't they wish for Goku's heart disease to be cured in the canon story? Of I remember correctly, they had 3 years. Goku found new namek in a moment when needed and Kami was still around, so they had 2 sets of dragon balls available...

Personally I'd have dog buu turn him into candy now, if he can still do that.

if he gets eaten I guess he would regenerate back into whatever candy form he was turned into, but not the actual body he was in originally.

Personally I would blasting him into the sun works too. just put his body in a space pod, candy or other, and shoot him into the sun. he "dies" and regenerates, constantly. a terrible villain liek this deserves no mercy.

The mafuuba was specifically not used as the author said its too weak to work anymore, so sealing him into the sun or just the katchin box should work the same. so its liek the idea or principle of sealing methods are excluded, just the ability of the sealing technique is why it wasn't tried.

So I would use the katchin box in a HTC or any other pocket dimension where he can't be easily retrieved.

Why do DB fans insist on codifying power levels so strictly? It's not meant to make sense, Toriyama admitted it was just a plot device (and a very good one at that imo).

CyberSaturn was saying: Damn, this is a worse fate than just being turned into stone, an eternal potato...

Gentlemen, send him to the black hole...!

He can fly

I wonder why Goku is old. I mean, it's pretty cool to have him as an old master, but dead people dont age, right? And even if he did die super old, there's nothing stopping his "other world body" to be young... right? But I digress.

I am really loving this whole concept.

I mean, Grandpa Gohan, in Dragon Ball, was old when he died, and he showed up as old when he was fighting kid Goku during that whole arc with Baba. Maybe your "spirit body" shows you as old as you were when you die? Goku can probably be as strong as he was in his prime, since he's a spirit or whatever, but he just looks as old as he was whenever he died.

Also love how the "omnious" effect just spells "Jojo"

He's going to be really upset knowing he's gotta blow them all up again.

Broly: "Whoa.... Radditz added his ki to this combined blast?! My one weakness! Weakness itself! NOOOOO!!!!!!"

I also gotta wonder why Buu didn't try a candy beam and Dabura didn't try stone spit. I mean this is an obvious "It'd be neat to see Broly just trash everyone" fic but those are neat ideas, still! Could have tested it and had his invincibility block it or something and then have Dabura getting absolutely destroyed after his spit failed.

It may be that Frieza/Frosts is the most powerful opponent he'd ever fought, so not even Cell-tier.

CyberSaturn was saying: I like this Buu lore, even better than the Dragonball Online one.

How come? One makes Buu depressed and the other gives him a family. How is Online worse?

You are forgetting tha XXI is the real enemy here, and he’s still fresh

I love the audio being thrown in there. Poor universe 20 (this is the story of 20 right?). This broly is a beast

Gogetto was saying: Is that a Goku in the audience ? Janembas face is priceless lol. Nows the time to pop out that lightsaber gast. Also hope gasts legs are still autonomous. Pull a super buu and give janemba a kick to the head

That's Roku, Goku's long lost brother

What would happen if piccolo disintegrated every last one of Bracca's cells? How would he regenerate then if there's nothing to regenerate?

Yeah like I said b4, I thought it'd be so off if somebody didn't know about the great ape transformation. I hope Tambo isn't the only Saiyan left. He's gotta have some relatives left, I mean, c'mon right?

Also I noticed that in this work piccolo has 5 fingers, and here a couple of chapters ago he has 4
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So XXI is made of 21 beings?

What do you guys think of Goku winning the tournament against xxi in the end? Because it looks like Gast will lose this

It is both cliche and fitting for this manga, it would be a true celebration of dragon ball. Goku finding out how to save the day like he always does, it would be cool.

CyberSaturn was saying: im going to headcannon based off his buu saga portrayal that old kai is stingy & wouldn't go through the effort of awakening all their hidden power for 25 hours each, he'd also believe something like "the universe should run its course through natural means" or something & be against doing anything to broly (like how yemma was against that for bojak, but with old man logic), he is a freak, but one the natural universe created.
Old Kai has been pretty proactive in trying to stop XXI. I don't see why he'd view Broly any differently. Only reason he was stingy in the Buu arc is because Goku blasted him in the face seconds after he showed up.

truly, what is the plan here?

Yeah it's a cool panel but ultimately meaningless since Broly is literally immune to damage. This is like watching Z-Buu hit Broly with punches and kicks while knowing it will do nothing.

Already this comic is bogged down by inconsistencies and plot holes. The explanation for Cell's death makes no sense since canon Cell has survived his upper body getting blown up and his own self destruction. Really feels like the reader is just expected to turn their brain off here which doesn't bode well for the future of this story.

I normally don't complain and Not to sound like a broken record but what is the point of this chapter, How does Vegeta not have super saiyan 3 atp?If they were planning this why didn't they train the villians Frieza,raditz cell etc?Why's uub not in kaioken?where's Goku?,did Gohan die? and so many more questions that honestly shouldn't need to be asked.I respect everyone that's worked on this but it feels uneeded and preferred knowing the z fighters died as heros.

Tbh if all these characters have been dead for a year, I don't get why Old Kai hasn't unlocked most of their potentials. Vegeta here would be more useful in Mystic form than as a SSJ2.

Plus Goku knows the fusion dance, so if he gets his potential unlocked and fused with a Mystic Vegeta or Gohan, the result should be able to defeat Broly. Or alternatively, he could try wishing for new Potaras with the Dragon Balls. I just feel like there are a lot better ways he could've used this year of preparation than gathering canon fodder.

So guys, lets make a calculation.
321 years ago, Piccolo was in Majin Buu Saga strong as Goku SSJ Cell Saga.
Piccolo was never the guy to retire. My expactation, a 321 years later Piccolo with a young body, should be physically strong as Goku SSJ3 - SSJ God and mentally (magic) like Ghast Carcolh (DBM).
This guy is now the strongest in the universe!!

Also, I think Piccolo will request for his true age after the fight. I don‘t think he wants to live another 321 years

Okay but he is still immortal and apparently the Mafuba don't work. So what is gonna be Piccolo's game plan now?

I'm also pretty sure that the Kakaditz we saw was meant to be Kakaditz at his full Ultimate Strength. Now if we go off the whole "Super Saiyan 3 is 5000x base" idea, and then go off the idea that Base Vegito was somewhere around Ultimate Gohan tier in base upon being born, and that the Ultimate "form" is superior to Super Saiyan 3 which would place that multiplier at at least at 5000x for both the fusion AND the ultimate state itself.
Ultimate Kakaditz should've been at least 25,000,000 times stronger than base Kakarot.
And U13 Vegeta was actually competing with that. Damaging him and clashing with him.

So are we gonna act like Vegettos not gonna get a Zenkai boost once he’s healed, and absolutely glass everyone in the arena? Lol

AAhhh.. so this is DBM's Ultra Instinct.

I take it this is what Goku and Vegeta achieved.

That was probably Gogeta Jr., the original artist and co-writer (iirc) of DBM.

If Janemba is canon to DBM at least that means there's no reason Gogeta can't be.

WTF?!
Does that mean there's a chance we will see Gogeta too? (I wish!)

When I saw that black page, my first thought: "This is an error or a punishment towards all the people complaining about the storyline/specials!"

Where I the only one thinking that?

Then reading the comments of course and discovered the awesome timed frontpage!

Honestly, Old Kai's power up really should have made Radditz, logically, at LEAST as strong as SS3 Vegeta. Really think about it. All those possible transformations plus any latent Hidden Potential. That's squeezing the best out of Super Saiyan 1, 2, 3, AND Oozaru. Unless Radditz is somehow genetically incapable of Super Saiyan forms at all and only had Ozaru, I don't see how Vegeta could have been a problem at all. Hell, with Oozaru(which for some reason is a 2x boost in DBM canon, not 10x), Raditz was damaging Super Saiyan Bardock and keeping pace with him for a little bit which is a STUPENDOUS performance against a massively superior form. The same Super Saiyan Bardock who, need I remind you, went toe to toe with King Kold who was stated to be Android tier, possibly even Android 16 tier before using his 100% form.

This isn't just some weakling. Sure, he still lost and was overwhelmed ultimately, but give Raditz some credit. Throw on the Super Saiyan transformations and any latent potential(even if it's something like a 100% increase of his base form) and he should be minimum a REALLY strong SS2 at his max, if not a decent SS3.

The power scaling on this really threw me for a loop and I hope this cool as fuck moment isn't undercut by him being shockingly weak or getting absolutely annihilated. It'd make scaling feel a lot more nonsensical and feel untrustworthy going forward. I dunno. This art is just really fucking sick and I love this pose. I don't want a cheap "gag" where they get destroyed.

@About whether this is a vision or not.
There are arguments for and against. I'll try to list them with counter-arguments. Lemme know if I forgot anything.

It's a vision
— Argument 1: Kakarotto and Vegeta were shown during IKL's rampage so the special couldn't have happened before that.
— -Counter-argument: Maybe Salagir messed up the timeline. There is a precedent for that.
— --Counter-counter-argument: I don't think he did. The only mistake regarding the timeline is when Raditz was shown alive on page 1514 (just before Raichi's rampage) when actually he was killed by Piccolo Daimao way before that. The reason this happened is because on the script it just said "have Vegeta with a bunch of Saiyans" and BK-81 decided to include Raditz, not knowing he was supposed to by dead by then. So I wouldn't really say it was Salagir who messed up, rather it was a lack of communication between artists.

— Argument 2: The blurry panel on page 2359.
— -Counter-argument: It could simply be a time skip, and not a vision starting.
So I guess it could be either since there's no precedent for this type of panel.

— Argument 3: It's a flashback chapter. If all this really happened, why make it a flashback chapter? Only the first 4 pages are a flashback, the other 20 pages literally happen AFTER the main story? Seems weird.

Not a vision
— Argument 1: It could be happening after IKL's rampage
— -Counter-argument 1: That would be a weird decision to show a chapter ahead of time.
— -Counter-argument 2: Ok, but why is Vegetto in a good mood after what happened to him?
— --Counter-counter-argument 1: Bad writing. But this argument can literally be used any time for any situation. If it can't be substantiated nor debunked with objective elements, I don't think it has any meaning.
— --Counter-counter-argument 2: Maybe some things have happened between IKL'S and Kakaditz's rampages and it will all be explained and it will make sense? Like, maybe Uub is coming back too and the way all these stories entangle together, maybe it made more sense to show this chapter before? I don't know.

— Argument 2: There is supposedly one page left in this chapter.
This means either:
1. The rest of the fight is shown in a different chapter, which means it's probably not a vision, as their story continues on.
2. The long and tenuous story of the evil Saiyans of Universe 13, who defeated plenty of enemies and finally learned stuff from their good counterparts really ends on the next page? That would suck ass, seriously. Their story is far from over.
3. Zen Buu is simply lying about the one page left.

Personally I've been thinking for the most part that it is a vision. But I'm not so sure anymore. My money is still on it though.

still don't know how vegeta is in ssj3 this long and how the fusion didn't outright kill vegeta or why they even seperated.This chapter is very weird

I think that leaving those unattended potara earrings there maybe backfires or maybe they are used by the Z fighters to create a potara fused opponent to deal with U16 Vegetto when U16 Vegetto's rampage happens.

Now if we think they both obviously wanted to unfuse immediately, we can add a rule that, for Kaioshins, the unstable time is extremely short. Potalas being (from DBM decided lore) a Kaioshin device meant to fuse kaioshins, it may be more efficient for them.

So is the patora fusion permanent in this continuity or not? If elder kai can separate the users, why didn't he do it for Vegetto? Why not use it on kabitokai? Why not use it on himself?

CyberSaturn was saying: i cant take scaling in this series seriously anymore, how is bra able to fight 2 ultimate gohans + a hyper perfect cell, zen buu able to solo most of the multiverse, but a potara fusion is having trouble with vegeta, was raditz just that weak? this has to be some kind of a fever dream otherwise.

Well Bra in SSJ2 and being the daughter of Vegetto and knowing how half-saiyan potential works, it's no surprise that Bra would clobber 2 Gohans and a Cell that's pretty comparable in power to one of the two Gohans. That said, if Bra didn't have Senzus then who knows how that fight would have turned out. Either Bra wins with a missing arm or she gets defeated.

Zen Buu being able to solo most of DBM is a byproduct of him absorbing magicians, scientists, etc. Not just powerful and skilled fighters (though he also has that). So as much as Buu is "too OPed", it's not unreasonable that Buu could in theory reach that level in all areas and become godlike.

This one definitely seems more absurd. And though I would entertain the idea of Kakaditz toying with Vegeta before, this page looks like Kakaditz actually can get hurt by Vegeta's attacks so idk. But who knows, I think it might be a bit early still to judge. The worst thing is I can't figure out what time period this fight takes place. The most likely theory is after I'K'L but we skipped quite a bit. Which leaves me to think that this fight is a vision.

Nappa’s a weakling. Even if he became a Super Saiyan he’d be closer to the Ginyus than the second weakest person here. They should have brought Babidi back, or any wizards in general- what’s the worst case scenario, that Babidi manipulates Broly to obey him? I’d rather the universe be ruled by an evil overlord than utterly obliterated

Despite the less than ideal artwork and this almost certainly being a dream scenario,
I really like that middle panel of SSJ 3 Vegeta and Mystic Kakaditz facing each other.
I only wish it was solely Raditz taking on Vegeta.

Can someone please explain why none of this is real? Like when exactly did this issue convey that what we’re seeing is a what-if scenario being imagined by Old Kai? The Bra and Gast fight had a clear tell and even Bardock’s visions during the Rebellion at least had different font that gave it away but I can’t get a read on when this could have happened here

It was me, Dio!

Unless you can read namekian, how do you know he is immortal?