No, she's much older than Gohan was then. This feels closer to Cell.

My guess, Injustice!

Dr. Gero uses a fear toxin on Hercule and....!

Jk.

I just don't think this is canon timeline. She might not die. 2 תגובה/תגובות

I think the joke is just that they don't know that Hercule is Seiyaman.

Remember this Hercule is much less barrel-chested

I prefer it, magic is Vegito's weakness.

It's 1000x better than the black senzu causing it, which he never should have eaten.

does Vegeta not remember frieza? Lmao 1 תגובה/תגובות

It should be Vwgeta's fight, or either Gohan's. Bra isn't interesting here.

She's honestly not done anything interesting in the whole comic. Visually awesome, yes, but not interesting.

That's definitely where this is going, we still haven't seen Goku shake hands with a Cell Jr

Gohan will probably mention his fight against Bra.

It's definitely okay for Vegito to be outside of this rule and the canon here just has her as super potent because her father is a fusion.

There's a lot about Bra I won't defend, but her unique power dynamics are fine. It's not different than making an exception for Gohan's rage. 1 תגובה/תגובות

This would have been better if it was Gohan. He's tangled with them before, and he was holding back.

Threaten his kid (or his kid's doppleganger, I don't know), and learn your place the hard way.

As with the current Satan comic, I'd enjoy one where he got to save the day, just once

Or was shown to be technically adept, but no lazer hands.

Vegeta didn't learn his lesson from learning lessons. That's our Geetz

If this is the canon universe, which we've seen almost nothing to confirm, this is... about the point where they're going to Namek.

It's very cool to see a very human story in the context of a Dragonball world.

Like, there are lower tier fighters that would be useful here. Could Gotenks take this Vegeta? Possibly. Could he be useful to Vegeta18? Absolutely.

Imagine a scene where Vegeta needs SS0, so Gotenks vows to give him the time to get there, ala the Kid Buu fight

Vegeta watches him, partially his son's doppleganger, get hammered, but gains respect for his perseverance.

Besides Bra-18, and like Videl, Pan is just the weakest fighter here.

I don't think IT, in the span of a few feet, is any faster than "body flicker" that they all do, although I don't think DB ever gave it a name.

It's neat, but also silly to see Pan in the fray. She couldn't hurt an SS3 if he begged her to

Technically, we don't know for sure yet that this is basically the canon timeline. 1 תגובה/תגובות

@ZenBuu Hercule looks way too young for this to be after after DB. Here, he looks 20, and looked younger before.

Not saying it is or isn't, but the age doesn't look old enough. Oh well.

He looks much much older in DBZ.

He did think that he—

That's the fun part about fanfic and this uncovered time.

It's never really shown how powerful he is, because, just that he's weaker than Krillin's generation, and weaker than Roshi when Roshi bothers to train.

And since this is 10 or so years before Goku showing up, each of those fighters would be weaker than when Goku met them 1 תגובה/תגובות

I still love the comic. :)

Hercule is probably an incredible fighter, but he's like Daredevil in a world with Thor.

And he just never moved to crack his limits like Krillin and Tien did.

It's kind of a shame you skipped showing him being an adept and skilled fighter.

Could have maybe had him beat Roshi or Mercenary Tao (this is probably ten years before Goku shows up)

He's probably one of the strongest ten earthlings in DBZ, just way behind the likes of adult Tien, Krillin, etc.

Here, he could be top 3, even top 1.

It would just be nice for a comic to highlight that 3 תגובה/תגובות

Yep, bringing Pan was a wild mistake.

And it's out of character for Gohan, and either Videl to let him

Especially since Vegeta himself said it best to Gohan. "You're stronger when you have something to protect. That's not me." 2 תגובה/תגובות

XXI has basically majinized them. I could see her pressing at least SS2 Vegeta.

But she has no business against SS3.

she's gonna be so mad when he pretends to lose a fight for money, lmaooo

Mr Satan is nice, but he's uh, not ethical

The news is often missed. It's out of the way.

This was a beautiful little comic. Good job.

Come back and do another :)

Your avatar being 18 makes this so funny.

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In the last panel, Vwgeta's face looks very much like a skull. Just interesting.

Pan is weak. She's a little kid.

Considering there's no telling what caliber of villains they'll find, she has no use in battle

Either they're fodder for SS2, or Vegeta needs more help than a child can give.

Yeah you could contrive some scenario where Vegeta is stuck of something, and she frees him, but no she doesn't belong in the battle. 1 תגובה/תגובות

Why would Vegeta take Pan with him? He even said it, he doesn't fight harder when he has something to protect, that's Gohan.

No one here would take Pan. They probably wouldn't even take Goten or Trunks 3 תגובה/תגובות

Is this the end? I hope not.

Either way, lovely story.

Lol "math"

B) Vegeta always thinks he can beat everyone. That's no metric.

C) Vegeta isn't at 50b lmao. It would be silly to say he's at 1b 1 תגובה/תגובות

Just like anyone else, if they're killed with a halo, they're probably gone

Called it, haha.

I love this art so much. It has a unique style. 1 תגובה/תגובות

It was at that moment, Vegeta knew--

On the last page, I literally thought he broke Gohan's arm. I thought it was a demon impostor or something.

Lesson 1. Blocking

Oh. Oh no.

I do not like this :(

That's why I said they shouldn't be able to attack Earth.

They don't have to be heroes, slaves to Gohan, but they can't be villains.

Rude lol

I love it, but I am sad.

Why turn them back? Give them free will, with the limitations of not being able to attack Earth

Gohan needs a team. 1 תגובה/תגובות

He says that, but he lies. He is always ready to cheese a fight.

Except against Bra.

She eventually gets beat, only to come back and be like "I never bothered to train" Golden Arale

I know :)

It's pretty much the case that only DBM's main comic is DBM, though some stories attach themselves in a fanfic way (like Broly did)

I could have said it better. Every comic on the site is mean to Gohan, besides the two in DBM, where he's really online a bouncer.

I'll criticize plot conveniences (like Vegeta eating XXI's bean) or plot-armor but this wasn't that.

A) blinding him far away is dumb since he would have plenty of time to overcome it

B) it was a way to surprise the readers too. Blinding him wouldn't be a bad move, but it wouldn't be surprising.

in DBM, Gohan always has the worst luck in every single universe but 18 and 16.

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And Raditz looks about as much like Goku as as Vegeta does.

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It probably can't be Vegeta's brother anyway, even in super which is like 12ish years forward, his brother was short and scrawny

But maybe he spent a week in a Happy Broccoli Tiger Cager

Thorn is fast. As the blast started, he managed to get on the other side of Bulma, and shield her from the blast. 2 תגובה/תגובות

Absurd. He's murdered masses, the thing evil people do. He just didn't want to murder his own friends. 1 תגובה/תגובות

Vegeta really isn't packing much at all.

Explains the anger issues.

I'd rather see what Bra is packing, anyway. 1 תגובה/תגובות

You can add more story, but there isn't really much mystery left that needs to be told, other than maybe Zen finding a way back

Like obviously Gast survives Cell.

You could reveal the discovery of SSJ0, but it doesn't really need to be told.

Well done!

Vegeta would never hurt Videl, and Jesus he wouldn't need to power up to do it.

This was just giving Bra a moment, that's all this was.

And he's surrounded by four characters that he couldn't stop even if he did power up.

Vegeta is, in fact, quite stupid. He's endearing, and I love him, but his pride makes him quit thinking.

I mean, just look how dumb he was throughout Cell in DBZ.

He wasn't really smarter against this DBM-Cell, he just managed to be powerful enough to beat him.

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Also, killing XXI isn't a choice, or a debate. He will eventually come to their universe, more powerful than he is now.

Maybe he just shrunk the bubble for a second, killing their energy emissions, which is why they're both still Super Saiyan, but no auras.

Anyway, I don't think SS0 Vegeta would fare too badly against Bra SS2. Gohan was somewhere in Bra's ballpark (still weaker, obviously), and SS0 is stronger than Gohan.

Also, so yeah, EoZ Vegeta was really intending to threaten Videl, which again, Vegeta wouldn't do.

Props on taking the time to draw the two scenes from different angles, rather than just copy and paste, which would have been fitting here, since this presumably happened in an instant.

Her reaction isn't strange at all. Vegeta's is.

Vegeta has evolved a lot since he was a space-terrorist. He wouldn't threaten Videl, Pan's mom, or anyone else. It doesn't really matter that she's from u16, he just wouldn't.

But they love Bra so she always gets her moments to shine :) 2 תגובה/תגובות

That's right, sorry.

1/4, lol

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Super established that everything is cloned in a new timeline, even Zeno.

Why does this Whis need to go back anywhere? He should belong to this timeline. 1 תגובה/תגובות

I love the stories that play with the canon timeline's gaps, like Vegeta Tales is also doing.

Oh please. Vegeta wouldn't hurt Videl, u16, u18, or anyone. That's an insult to the character.

And Videl is wrong. If XXI can traverse the multiverse, he'll probably eventually come for them.

Also, I bet SS0 Vegeta would low-diff Bra. Gohan was powerful enough to be in the ring with her Majin power, and the whole point of SS0 is to outclass Gohan. 1 תגובה/תגובות

Why is Videl shocked? They need to stop him so he can't come to their universe, not to mention all the others.

Goten-kun, this is your best work, and all your work has been great.

This is deeply attached to characters we know and it makes it emotional. 1 תגובה/תגובות

Two options, since Trunks traversed time.

1.) In doing so, he created an alternate timeline, not a parallel universe. Vargas 'can also see traverse time rips.'

2.) In doing so, he became a being of both universes.

The art here channels Goku really well.

"You're allowed to block punches!?!?" 3 תגובה/תגובות

so if the thorns weren't an attack, how did a few people get pierced by them? XI just... teleported people to this stomach or fridge, or whatever?

Videl consoling Pan is really really nice. Thank you.

A hug would have been beautiful.



How are you so good at remembering this stuff? Also that scene is even sweeter. 1 תגובה/תגובות

What would would you suggest? Deduce or surmise works, but sounds just as unusual. Their choice was fine.

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Seeing SS0 Goku and Vegeta against Vegito will be fun. Then they'll fuse and we'll see Vegito rage about getting beat by strength alone. 2 תגובה/תגובות

Piccolo's secret recipe

Cell has to know there's a high chance of him being outmatched here. Pretty sure Mystic Gohan slightly outmatches him.

He saw how thoroughly Bra outclassed them.



It may mean he sent jr's to wake allies up.



Piccolo's theory 2 תגובה/תגובות

That's the point. Gohan is never more powerful than when something important is on the line.

Plus, Bra no-diffs Gohan. He doesn't belong in the fight against Vegito, and none of the other enemy fighters matter.

"You, on the other hand, it's the opposite."

This is maybe the best line ever written in this comic.

It's beautiful and powerful.

I wonder if they're gonna try to wake up U16.

I hope gast is doing to antenna thing too 1 תגובה/תגובות

We don't really know bra, she's a back burner character, but she'd be like a cousin to Pan. They'd be close.

This is the smallest thing to criticize.

I love how everyone looks sad, Vegeta is hard to read, and Goku looks sad and determined at the same time.

I also think he's, for maybe the first time since defeating him, afraid of what Vegeta might unleash.

I'm not saying Vegeta's going to attack allies, just that we might see a burst of rage-power like Gohan.

Yeah, but in that moment, Bra wasn't considering things, because she never did.

And here, Gohan doesn't have a target to lash out at, yet.

If he saw Pan die perhaps forever, I think he'd go ballistic on whatever killed her, as soon as he found them.

But there's at least like five fighters here that severely outclass Gohan

But we also saw that Gohan is ver 1 תגובה/תגובות

I have one criticism. This being looks nothing like Goku at all. He just looks like a different Saiyan. Honestly, he looks more like teen Goten than anything. 1 תגובה/תגובות

A surprise attack has basically always bypassed power differences anyway. 1 תגובה/תגובות

Because he knew she was coming back, and that if Bra did interfere, they'd be sent home and he's lose Pan forever.

This is very different 2 תגובה/תגובות

I very much love that Vegeta is going to go ballistic because Daddy's girl got hurt.

Gohan would too, if it were Pan. I forget which one died, but that was different, she was going to be wishes back.

With the Gohans particularly, there'd definitely be an awesome moment if they both saw a dead Pan and went ballistic.

I'm rather sad we never saw fusion of the Gohans.

I am loving this art style. 1 תגובה/תגובות

Hey :)

I checked out the first few pages a few weeks ago, and then left this alone. I just caught up.

I had a lot of criticism last time. Don't worry, I'm not coming here to criticize.

I want to say that the art here is good and much more consistent, and that's really good.

And though the story hasn't really started, it seems like you put a lot of thought into how this story could fit in the timeline while still being interesting.

It looks to me like Vegeta may go on his journey and find himself being a hero and liking it. It'll be fun to see.

Good luck, and genuinely good job so far.

What you wanna say.uub looks a lot like young adult Goku here

I like it

That's the thing, she may well be living. Buu is definitely capable of it. She's definitely showing signs of being more than a single purpose machine.

Agreed. Came here to say this. There's too many to cycle like that.

this is the most gorgeous page I've ever seen in a digital comic

The rain sheeting off the forcefield is a really nice touch

It actually fits even better. He has a stern face and then he looks over to see his doppelganger and that Pan, and smiles.

One could argue that he considered Cell's offer for a the briefest second from this, and even the original version.

Also, this is Dragonball. Death is like a nap to them.

Hey, this art is so cool. It's strange but awesome how this chapter got more effort than any other. I hope we see more of this in the last battles.

(Edit: No offense about the effort comment! There are different types of effort and each page takes a lot.)

But please be careful with rapid flashing. It can cause seizures in people with epilepsy, like myself.

It didn't, but some epileptics are significantly more sensitive to flashes than I am. Some aren't at all.

I do love that both Gohans are there. It makes sense though.

I'm surprised Bra is not, but busy scene so it makes sense.

next page is hopefully Gohan stepping in front of Kakarot and Kak breaks his hand as his fist hits Gohan's abs.

Gohan wouldn't be fighting, this should be okay.

Uub, being the reincarnation of the pink blob..

He'll marry this girl, and a pink blob will be released.

And that pink blob is how we get Zen Buu back.

Hey, that's Krillin's move!

Super Saiyan Rage Mai.

It's only slightly more unbelievable than canon Trunks slicing Zamasu.

awwwww, I love this

Pros: Need 4 Zpeed, the driving episode

Cons: Dragon Basket should feature some kind of round things from the series. Hmmm.

Great art :) miss the main story though





It does look like him, maybe doing a flip. The position is hard to decipher, since the text covers it. 1 תגובה/תגובות

Trunks "beating" Fused Zamasu was already an absurd feat, I don't understand the point of making Black stronger.

But I do love the art! 1 תגובה/תגובות

So, if this Porunga is a denizen of U1, he should be able to grant traversal to someone.

That would have been a great twist. XXI makes that wish and Porunga replies that it is not within his power, because he is not U1 Porunga

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I hope there's a button to bring Zen back. I hate how he was just written out.

Nobody thought this the tournament was going to end it, not since Bardock's vision. It was always clear that the biggest fight would be a real fight, life and death, and probably a many v 1

Even if it's Vegito vs Gogeta, Bra and Gast are strong enough to contribute. Gohan thinks he is, but we all know how that goes.

And now XXI snaps his fingers and the senzless idiot snaps.

I mean, part of XXI's plan was the black Senzu, and that absolutely wasn't impressive.

The only cool thing XXI was part of was his fight vs Gast

Mann, DBM/etc hates Gohan so much lol.

U18/16 is the only universe he found happiness in.

The plan probably is that Gast or someone will probably man-handle these weaklings

And then Mista Senzu Black shows up and handles the handler 1 תגובה/תגובות

tbf...

the other trunks said
the exact same thing

This just all feels hopeless. No fighter here can counter XXI. I feel he had ways to one-shot Gast, especially now, but he wanted to eat him.

Uub might be useful, but that seems a little stretched, going from non-magic to Wizard tier, off screen.

Maybe they'll push a button and bring Zen back. We all miss Zen