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i really hope this is some mind control crap because they amount of pis i would have to believe here is a little much.
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okay...what exactly is the elder kai asking him to do.
"You can't win." um...okay well how is he supposed to win his match do you have a suggestion as to HOW he can win if you CAN'T POWER HIM UP? If so maybe you should tell him. If you don't...well what exactly do you expect him to do.
What do you mean "Go above and beyond"? He knows nothing about XXI so how exactly is he supposed to strategize?
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"You can't win." um...okay well how is he supposed to win his match do you have a suggestion as to HOW he can win if you CAN'T POWER HIM UP? If so maybe you should tell him. If you don't...well what exactly do you expect him to do.
What do you mean "Go above and beyond"? He knows nothing about XXI so how exactly is he supposed to strategize?
so cell is clearly stronger than king cold but he lacks their dna. so he's weaker than the perfect cell we know but i do like the attention to detail with the continuity and changing the design just enough to be recognizable.
very good looks good in both color and black and white. You can still see his tail.
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very good looks good in both color and black and white. You can still see his tail.
So Captain Chicken is Super Saiyan Gohan then? Interesting.
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Hello, I hope you like this new page!
Since I really love this Bardock SSJ, I thought it deserved a full-page tribute.
I started from the small panel on the previous page, which wasn’t very well-defined (and wasn’t meant to be this large).
I kept the dynamic and proportions, which were excellent, and by tweaking a few things, I ended up with a solid full-page composition:
A bit of color and a more refined background, and here we are with the final page.
See you soon! ;)
Since I really love this Bardock SSJ, I thought it deserved a full-page tribute.
I started from the small panel on the previous page, which wasn’t very well-defined (and wasn’t meant to be this large).
I kept the dynamic and proportions, which were excellent, and by tweaking a few things, I ended up with a solid full-page composition:
A bit of color and a more refined background, and here we are with the final page.
See you soon! ;)
Interesting choice. I gotta say though tht I never get tired of Raditz saying "I CAN SQUASH YOU WITH MY FINGER"
Bardock: Whips out Super Saiyan
Raditz: Oh fuck....that's so unfair.
Oh so Videl is controlling Android 28? Like a video game, that's hilarious and un-expected.
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Good work...I'm actually kind of happy about this. Honestly though...Majin Buu was the real idiot here. Gogeta was fine but Majin Buu while he was more intelligent then his "Fat" version like the previous version he was not very smart. Like many have said he could have done a lot of other things
But I'm actually glad you're doing this chapter.
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But I'm actually glad you're doing this chapter.
I mean I have to say...I expected this to be dark but not this dark. I didn't think the entire realm of the dead would be gone. I mean it's supposed to be so I guess it did it's job.
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Please don't kill Krillin...please don't kill Krillin. He's the last surviving (Well okay Yajerobie is still there) major fighter for the earth.
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I know Dragon Ball has a lot of different fights where "Bigger number wins" and that anyone with a lower number winning is a "Plot-device" or a plot convenience but do Dragon Ball fans have no ability to break from that mold at all.
Look there are things about this story that I didn't like, I'll grant you but this is not "Plot-convenient". Gogeta didn't win...well there was more to it than that. A.) Janemba interfered and Elder Kai for a brief time told Gogeta to top fighting at Super Saiyan 3. So it wasn't a straight up fight, if Gogeta had fought this Broly to the end one on one he'd likely have destroyed him with the Stardust Breaker AND after that once he un-transformed (Like he did here) then Gogeta could have killed him.
The Fusion dance lasts for less time...you can't just say "Because Gogeta is stronger than Super Vegetto (DBM) therefore he always inherently has to win".
This story is far from the "Worst" in fact I'd say it's in many ways better than other specials that are official to DBM (No disrespect for the authors of those).
Janemba interfered, I will admit that Buu could have been written better but this is far from the worst thing and on top of that...this special isn't even "DBM Canon". 1 Replie(s)
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Look there are things about this story that I didn't like, I'll grant you but this is not "Plot-convenient". Gogeta didn't win...well there was more to it than that. A.) Janemba interfered and Elder Kai for a brief time told Gogeta to top fighting at Super Saiyan 3. So it wasn't a straight up fight, if Gogeta had fought this Broly to the end one on one he'd likely have destroyed him with the Stardust Breaker AND after that once he un-transformed (Like he did here) then Gogeta could have killed him.
The Fusion dance lasts for less time...you can't just say "Because Gogeta is stronger than Super Vegetto (DBM) therefore he always inherently has to win".
This story is far from the "Worst" in fact I'd say it's in many ways better than other specials that are official to DBM (No disrespect for the authors of those).
Janemba interfered, I will admit that Buu could have been written better but this is far from the worst thing and on top of that...this special isn't even "DBM Canon". 1 Replie(s)
mulled_piss was saying:
Can't he just teleport Goku to another dimension like he did Vegito
Goku will have seen that and will scream immediately to get out. Vegetto didn't know time was passing by slowly in there. Goku would and considering this new form known as "Normal Super Saiyan" was able to have a half hour's worth of fighting in a half a second he'd blow out of it quickly".
Dang it though now I'm probably going to have to wait until the next chapter with Gast is over to know what the wish is
Maybe his Dragon has limited powers BUT they take much less time to regenerate then Shenron on Porunga.
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ZenBuu was saying:
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto was saying: ZenBuu was saying: Moe2231 was saying: ZenBuu was saying: JasonPhoenix was saying: Sure's been a while since the last chapter... While I don't mind waiting per se, I do get worried the translation might be axed with us being none the wiser...
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto was saying: So is there any word on continuation of the Novel? Or any possible timeline? Like 6 months from now? Or maybe 2025?
Again if you're too busy that's fine I just would prefer to know what to expect.
Little bit late reply:
It is not depending on any translation. It's the writer Arctika that has to continue writing the novel. I can ask him how things are looking, but I wouldn't have much hope that it continues very soon.
Asking, do you know if the novels will be continued for powerscaling sake. For the uub and goku fight and goku vs vegeta fight.
It will be continued, that's for sure. Just be patient please. Afaik Arctika has already written Cell vs Vegeta.
Thank you for the update. I'm glad to hear he's written Vegeta vs. Cell, does that mean that all of the stuff between that part and the end of the majin saga has been written as well?
If so, then would it be possible to just release SOME of the stuff like maybe what he has until Goku vs. Uub? Then wait for the rest that he has afterwards?
If not then fine but...just asking.
I would assume he has written everything in between too. :D
Unfortunately I can't answer you the rest, it's been a while since I talked to him the last time. I will ask him again and keep you guys updated here, as soon as I have any more info.
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto was saying: So is there any word on continuation of the Novel? Or any possible timeline? Like 6 months from now? Or maybe 2025?
Again if you're too busy that's fine I just would prefer to know what to expect.
Little bit late reply:
It is not depending on any translation. It's the writer Arctika that has to continue writing the novel. I can ask him how things are looking, but I wouldn't have much hope that it continues very soon.
Asking, do you know if the novels will be continued for powerscaling sake. For the uub and goku fight and goku vs vegeta fight.
It will be continued, that's for sure. Just be patient please. Afaik Arctika has already written Cell vs Vegeta.
Thank you for the update. I'm glad to hear he's written Vegeta vs. Cell, does that mean that all of the stuff between that part and the end of the majin saga has been written as well?
If so, then would it be possible to just release SOME of the stuff like maybe what he has until Goku vs. Uub? Then wait for the rest that he has afterwards?
If not then fine but...just asking.
I would assume he has written everything in between too. :D
Unfortunately I can't answer you the rest, it's been a while since I talked to him the last time. I will ask him again and keep you guys updated here, as soon as I have any more info.
Thanks Zen Buu!
If he can't do that can you use some of that knowledge that you gained when absorbing Bulma to make us a Time Machine so that maybe I can use that to go into the Future? Lol
(Sorry couldn't resist)
I gotta be honest, this scene doesn't make sense to me. Yamcha of the 9th Universe had 18 pinned to the ground all he had to do was hold her there and the varga was counting.
If he hadn't forfeited he would have won so why does Eleim "Need" to kill him if he holds him down for more than 30 seconds isn't that a win anyway?
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If he hadn't forfeited he would have won so why does Eleim "Need" to kill him if he holds him down for more than 30 seconds isn't that a win anyway?
ZenBuu was saying:
Moe2231 was saying: ZenBuu was saying: JasonPhoenix was saying: Sure's been a while since the last chapter... While I don't mind waiting per se, I do get worried the translation might be axed with us being none the wiser...
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto was saying: So is there any word on continuation of the Novel? Or any possible timeline? Like 6 months from now? Or maybe 2025?
Again if you're too busy that's fine I just would prefer to know what to expect.
Little bit late reply:
It is not depending on any translation. It's the writer Arctika that has to continue writing the novel. I can ask him how things are looking, but I wouldn't have much hope that it continues very soon.
Asking, do you know if the novels will be continued for powerscaling sake. For the uub and goku fight and goku vs vegeta fight.
It will be continued, that's for sure. Just be patient please. Afaik Arctika has already written Cell vs Vegeta.
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto was saying: So is there any word on continuation of the Novel? Or any possible timeline? Like 6 months from now? Or maybe 2025?
Again if you're too busy that's fine I just would prefer to know what to expect.
Little bit late reply:
It is not depending on any translation. It's the writer Arctika that has to continue writing the novel. I can ask him how things are looking, but I wouldn't have much hope that it continues very soon.
Asking, do you know if the novels will be continued for powerscaling sake. For the uub and goku fight and goku vs vegeta fight.
It will be continued, that's for sure. Just be patient please. Afaik Arctika has already written Cell vs Vegeta.
Thank you for the update. I'm glad to hear he's written Vegeta vs. Cell, does that mean that all of the stuff between that part and the end of the majin saga has been written as well?
If so, then would it be possible to just release SOME of the stuff like maybe what he has until Goku vs. Uub? Then wait for the rest that he has afterwards?
If not then fine but...just asking. 1 Replie(s)
Sayazur was saying:
FYI: Janemba is not brought back to life by Shin's wish. As we said at the DBM tournament, Janemba is not a living being in the strict sense of the word. He was destroyed and just ceased to exist.
That's good. I have to admit...everyone thought this battle would end horribly...but I have to admit the battle was enjoyable and maybe there can be an "Alternate ending" to the Dragon Ball Multiverse's Universe 20.
I don't think I've ever hated on this comic but I admit I had my suspicions that this could end with good writing. So well done.
I realize the ending hasn't happened yet but I have confidence you'll manage to do this.
Honestly I never thought I would get this or ever could get this. I'm genuinely curious as to how this will play out. Gogeta didn't lose because of stupidity or interference or even hesitating so I honestly don't know how the Z Fighters are supposed to "Lose".
I mean in all honesty I would prefer to have this be the main ending to the Broly fight but Universe 20 is an even further deviation maybe where Vegeta messed up the Fusion dance or something and as a result Broly beat them and the whole "Ice dimension" was broken.
I don't know but either way this writer has given me confidence for a good ending to this story.
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I mean in all honesty I would prefer to have this be the main ending to the Broly fight but Universe 20 is an even further deviation maybe where Vegeta messed up the Fusion dance or something and as a result Broly beat them and the whole "Ice dimension" was broken.
I don't know but either way this writer has given me confidence for a good ending to this story.
Well...this is...surprising. I mean, I gotta be honest I don't see how Broly gets out of this if the body is already capable of being obliterated. How does he make it out of this?
I gotta hand it to the writer...this is...significantly better than I thought. There were no plans that were overtly dumb...they used Gogeta at Super Saiyan 3 and didn't use the cliche' of making him de-fuse. He delivered his attack at this point I genuinely don't think even if they lose that our heroes could have anticipated any of what would happen next.
I predict that this new "Ice Realm" or whatever will come into play somehow but...I genuinely have to admit. I'm impressed. 1 Replie(s)
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I gotta hand it to the writer...this is...significantly better than I thought. There were no plans that were overtly dumb...they used Gogeta at Super Saiyan 3 and didn't use the cliche' of making him de-fuse. He delivered his attack at this point I genuinely don't think even if they lose that our heroes could have anticipated any of what would happen next.
I predict that this new "Ice Realm" or whatever will come into play somehow but...I genuinely have to admit. I'm impressed. 1 Replie(s)
This was funnier than expected (This segment that is). I'm curious though will this chapter end on a cliff-hanger of Goku beginning his fight with XXI OR maybe XXI's whole plan is to have Vegetto (Somehow) either through control, persuasion (God knows how) to have Vegetto create another incident so that XXI can buy time for whatever it is he needs to beat Goku.
Or it could be that Goku's weakness is just "He can't go Normal Super Saiyan without extreme concentration". XXI tries to use that against him but Goku already transforms before the fight which puts XXI in a bind.
Just out of curiosity do any mods know how many pages are left in this chapter? Not saying I'm not enjoying it, just wondering. 1 Replie(s)
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Or it could be that Goku's weakness is just "He can't go Normal Super Saiyan without extreme concentration". XXI tries to use that against him but Goku already transforms before the fight which puts XXI in a bind.
Just out of curiosity do any mods know how many pages are left in this chapter? Not saying I'm not enjoying it, just wondering. 1 Replie(s)
I mean an interesting question: Since Gogeta's Stardust Breaker targets evil...and apparently targets the "Soul". Broly's body might be invulnerable but could Gogeta destroy his soul?
Is his Soul invulnerable too? It would be kind of interesting if Broly collapsed dead with his soul being destroyed.
I too am calling that Gogeta is going to de-fuse since he kind of has too.
We know the Z Fighters are going to lose at some point but either way this comic has surprised me in a lot of ways better than I thought it would be even if I did know the outcome.
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Is his Soul invulnerable too? It would be kind of interesting if Broly collapsed dead with his soul being destroyed.
I too am calling that Gogeta is going to de-fuse since he kind of has too.
We know the Z Fighters are going to lose at some point but either way this comic has surprised me in a lot of ways better than I thought it would be even if I did know the outcome.
Well played...I wonder what will happen now. I guess Elder Kai will give them his backstory since Dai Kaioshin didn't care anymore.
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Finally seems like there will be some interaction between XXI and others outside of battle. Still though are those Balls, Dragon Balls? Balls that have been turned to stone?
Interesting that XXI is mad about not being able to eat haha I guess him and Vegetto have something in common. 2 Replie(s)
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Interesting that XXI is mad about not being able to eat haha I guess him and Vegetto have something in common. 2 Replie(s)
This was quite an interesting page, I hope we get more intel on XXI when he meets with his "Other" figure.
That's why she said "I'm not sure I could have beaten him AFTER ALL" she mistakenly underestimated him in the beginning saying he'd be easy for Gast to defeat. I agree that Uub or Gast are more qualified then her but it's not an inconsistency.
Like with so many other characters from the movies, while they have nearly identical appearances and even backstories in some cases their power levels are almost NEVER the same as their toei iterations. The only one that seems to be close was Bojack.
Other than that though, Cooler was strong enough to give a good fight to Super Saiyan Goku in the Multiverse version of events. Broly's powers are obviously different on a fundamental level based on his invulnerability and his fight with Vegetto.
Hirudegarn has similar powers but his powers are actually fairly low compared to his toei version that can easily beat Ultimate Gohan. He does have invincibility similar to Broly's though.
So why does Janemba have to be only equal to his Movie 12 counterpart?
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Also for everyone who constantly insisting that Goku doing anything to XXI would be an asspull. Need I remind you that we know almost NOTHING About XXI. He's not a conventional fighter, that should be abundantly obvious by now. Vegetto "Lost" because XXI used a trick to get him away there, Goku doesn't have to surpass Vegetto, Buu or anyone else. XXI only attacked Gast directly when he was already absolutely spent.
Goku doesn't have any weaknesses, the only thing I could think of is he requires concentration to unleash his new power. (The Ultimate form, normal Super Saiyan)
That's pretty easy though all Goku has to do is power up into the form before the fight starts. If XXI attacks he'll be disqualified, the only other thing is that XXI absorbs energy...which Goku has dealt with before.
You may not like it, but it's not implausible that Goku could find a way to win.
Plus there is going to be more story after the tournament itself so it's not like it would be the end of an arc.
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仅是剑客 was saying:
Wasn't Bra believe Janemba was weak? https://w...393.html#h_read
She really has became a clown as her father now.
Goku is better to learn from Gast and Uub instead of listening to her.
She really has became a clown as her father now.
Goku is better to learn from Gast and Uub instead of listening to her.
That's why she said "I'm not sure I could have beaten him AFTER ALL" she mistakenly underestimated him in the beginning saying he'd be easy for Gast to defeat. I agree that Uub or Gast are more qualified then her but it's not an inconsistency.
hetap was saying:
Uhh...so Gast is just not going to tell them all that XXI attacked him after forfeiting and is 100% evil and a huge threat? Not going to tell them all XXI tried to EAT him? No? I will give it a few more pages to see if he has anything else to say but if he never brings any of that up...that will be a pretty bad miss and will make Gast look really stupid. It will be completely jarring to the story and really take me out of it tbh.
Also, wtf is Bra talking about not knowing if she could beat Janemba? She is above mystic Gohan who is stronger than Janemba? That comment makes no sense at all.
Also, wtf is Bra talking about not knowing if she could beat Janemba? She is above mystic Gohan who is stronger than Janemba? That comment makes no sense at all.
Like with so many other characters from the movies, while they have nearly identical appearances and even backstories in some cases their power levels are almost NEVER the same as their toei iterations. The only one that seems to be close was Bojack.
Other than that though, Cooler was strong enough to give a good fight to Super Saiyan Goku in the Multiverse version of events. Broly's powers are obviously different on a fundamental level based on his invulnerability and his fight with Vegetto.
Hirudegarn has similar powers but his powers are actually fairly low compared to his toei version that can easily beat Ultimate Gohan. He does have invincibility similar to Broly's though.
So why does Janemba have to be only equal to his Movie 12 counterpart?
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Also for everyone who constantly insisting that Goku doing anything to XXI would be an asspull. Need I remind you that we know almost NOTHING About XXI. He's not a conventional fighter, that should be abundantly obvious by now. Vegetto "Lost" because XXI used a trick to get him away there, Goku doesn't have to surpass Vegetto, Buu or anyone else. XXI only attacked Gast directly when he was already absolutely spent.
Goku doesn't have any weaknesses, the only thing I could think of is he requires concentration to unleash his new power. (The Ultimate form, normal Super Saiyan)
That's pretty easy though all Goku has to do is power up into the form before the fight starts. If XXI attacks he'll be disqualified, the only other thing is that XXI absorbs energy...which Goku has dealt with before.
You may not like it, but it's not implausible that Goku could find a way to win.
Plus there is going to be more story after the tournament itself so it's not like it would be the end of an arc.
Definitely glad Gast is still alive. Initially I thought XXI was just afraid because he thought they knew that he broke the rules but does he have some other weakness that he needs the break after his fight.
Also first time we've seen a naked Namekian! 1 Replie(s)
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Also first time we've seen a naked Namekian! 1 Replie(s)
Oh...alas....if only XXI had bothered to remember Namekians hearing.
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I gotta admit I'm genuinely not sure what will happen. I mean Gast isn't going to win I know that but XXI could definitely kill him and absorb his power possibly.
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Wow XXI is either an incredible coward or Gast's stamina is OFF the charts....or both.
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ZenBuu was saying:
Damn, XXI really seems menacing here...
Also interesting how his speech bubble is shaped. I wonder how his voice sounds like.
Is it just me, or does XXI's silhouette look a little bit like semi perfect Cell in the last panel?
Also interesting how his speech bubble is shaped. I wonder how his voice sounds like.
Is it just me, or does XXI's silhouette look a little bit like semi perfect Cell in the last panel?
Yes I agree. The novel actually describes his voice as "Grave" and "In-human". It was in the novel version of Multiverse when Zen Buu came into XXI's room between the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
On another note, I do have to wonder if this is some sort of attack or it's just concealing Gast from the audience so that he can win by 30 count.
If it's the latter it's possible Gast might have discovered a weakness that Goku can use.
Honestly Goku should be powering up to "Normal Super Saiyan" in the interim so XXI can't interrupt his transformation. Especially since it doesn't seem to drain ki at all.
Wow....I don't know what to expect here.
XXI doesn't seem to be a direct fighter so is just going to crush him with the smoke.
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XXI doesn't seem to be a direct fighter so is just going to crush him with the smoke.
Interesting.
I'm glad they are doing stuff with Thorn as well as Krillin and Videl. The note on the bottom says they'll start the main story again? I have to admit, that's a welcome surprise, I imagine we'll get to see the conclusion to XXI vs. Gast. 1 Replie(s)
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I'm glad they are doing stuff with Thorn as well as Krillin and Videl. The note on the bottom says they'll start the main story again? I have to admit, that's a welcome surprise, I imagine we'll get to see the conclusion to XXI vs. Gast. 1 Replie(s)
So I'm guessing, Gogeta will need to divert some of his power to defeat Janemba, then he'll de-fuse and otherwise we can assume Gogeta would have defeated Broly.
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Hmm, this is getting interesting.
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ROFL!!!!!
Okay this page was genuinely hilarious. That's a Dragon Ball first.
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Okay this page was genuinely hilarious. That's a Dragon Ball first.
I'm definitely here for it. I also wonder though....will Cell look much different because, Freeza and King Cold never came to earth in this timeline. So he couldn't have gotten the cells of the others.
The only ones left alive here are Krillin, Yajerobie and Bulma. This is a hell of a bleak future, Vegeta may still be off in space though but he's still VERY VERY evil.
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The only ones left alive here are Krillin, Yajerobie and Bulma. This is a hell of a bleak future, Vegeta may still be off in space though but he's still VERY VERY evil.
Sayazur was saying:
Teleported_Bread was saying: Shabby was saying: The implication is of page 32 is that he did.
At worst, it's ambiguous as to whether they know.
That and my hunch about being wrong about the Dragon Balls having the power to repair the barrier was correct. I probably should have looked. But page 31 more heavily plays in the idea that Elder Kai did indeed not tell the other fighters. I'm pretty sure Gohan saying they were 'almost there' was in reference to their goal to shock Broly out of his LSSJ form and not an answer to the Elder Kai's reaction, who, btw, said they would pull everyone out of the afterlife with Broly if the situation 'becomes too critical'. Hopefully that's what's gonna happen. I can see why people would see the ice barrier being shattered here, but I hope it's just a big shockwave or something like what happened in the Gogeta VS Broly fight towards the end of the DBS: Broly movie, and that everyone will indeed be pulled out instead of letting the universe destabilize, anyway.
Someone said the author admitted to not liking this story. I actually do like it, but I'm hoping there isn't a more specific reason for it like, let's say, a poor ending.
The Old Kaioshin does talk to Kibitoshin.
Also, I’m not saying I don’t like this story.
The thing is, this story should have been very different from the final result, and because of some issues, I had to remove/modify a lot of things.
There’s a “Sayazur Cut” sitting in the drawer, but unfortunately, it will never see the light of day ^^’.
仅是剑客 was saying: I guess the universe will be saved in the end. Since Broly was found in Universe 20.
It just really stupid for Gogeta to fight Broly with no plan. How about instant transmit Broly into a Black hole again? Which Kaioshin should do in the beginning of this story.
Why kibitoshin didnt't teleport Buu in the sun ?
Why didn't goku and his frieds killed gero 3 years before the android activation ?
Why didn't kibito teleport Buu cocoon in the sun ?
It is actually a solution for these character, but :
— there will be no story.
— Broly survived litterally the BIGGEST black Hole in the universe
At worst, it's ambiguous as to whether they know.
That and my hunch about being wrong about the Dragon Balls having the power to repair the barrier was correct. I probably should have looked. But page 31 more heavily plays in the idea that Elder Kai did indeed not tell the other fighters. I'm pretty sure Gohan saying they were 'almost there' was in reference to their goal to shock Broly out of his LSSJ form and not an answer to the Elder Kai's reaction, who, btw, said they would pull everyone out of the afterlife with Broly if the situation 'becomes too critical'. Hopefully that's what's gonna happen. I can see why people would see the ice barrier being shattered here, but I hope it's just a big shockwave or something like what happened in the Gogeta VS Broly fight towards the end of the DBS: Broly movie, and that everyone will indeed be pulled out instead of letting the universe destabilize, anyway.
Someone said the author admitted to not liking this story. I actually do like it, but I'm hoping there isn't a more specific reason for it like, let's say, a poor ending.
The Old Kaioshin does talk to Kibitoshin.
Also, I’m not saying I don’t like this story.
The thing is, this story should have been very different from the final result, and because of some issues, I had to remove/modify a lot of things.
There’s a “Sayazur Cut” sitting in the drawer, but unfortunately, it will never see the light of day ^^’.
仅是剑客 was saying: I guess the universe will be saved in the end. Since Broly was found in Universe 20.
It just really stupid for Gogeta to fight Broly with no plan. How about instant transmit Broly into a Black hole again? Which Kaioshin should do in the beginning of this story.
Why kibitoshin didnt't teleport Buu in the sun ?
Why didn't goku and his frieds killed gero 3 years before the android activation ?
Why didn't kibito teleport Buu cocoon in the sun ?
It is actually a solution for these character, but :
— there will be no story.
— Broly survived litterally the BIGGEST black Hole in the universe
Why didn't Kabitoshin teleport Buu? Simple, Toriyama's version of Dragon Ball never established that Buu can't survive the sun or anything else like that. Kabito Could have broken the seal and then released Buu. ---
Yes sometimes there has to be a story and plot induced stupidity but come on......they've had 3 prior fights to Broly....they've had 1 year to prepare for this. They know that fighting like this won't work...they have to know by now. They lost to him the last time because they used hand to hand combat....you can't really complain if people find it hard that Gogeta (Who has a slow time limit) is going to de-fuse.
I think this is going to be a multi-part special. That's what they said before so I take it this is going to explain Goku's fate (Dead from the virus)...Vegeta turned Super Saiyan in the last special so. Gohan is likely dead but I do wonder about Vegeta though.
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Still trying to get used to the Varga's different colors, not complaining. Just a noticeable and an interesting touch.
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BaldSuperSaiyan was saying:
Is the absorb that good or does this make Gast seem weak. Like how is he the semi finalist and not just instantly beating these androids?
There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Gast's power is static. He likely has improved over the many decades he's existed.
I really doubt that this Gast is meant to be as strong as the one from the tournament. 1 Replie(s)
Sayazur was saying:
I hope everyone get the reference of the first three pannel here ^^
I can't speak for everyone else but I did :)
Goku is very likely dead since the heart virus happened, Krillin though this is unexpected but fun.
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Stardust Breaker could may not be able to destroy Broly's body but his soul? Nothing says that's invulnerable!
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I wonder how long this will hold out.
Is this somehow going to subvert and be a happy ending but they can't wish back all the damage Broly did or maybe the Dragon balls are destroyed.
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Is this somehow going to subvert and be a happy ending but they can't wish back all the damage Broly did or maybe the Dragon balls are destroyed.
Well this is quite interesting! Neither of my predictions were correct #28 and #31??
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To quote Abridged Shenron "Can't wait to see how you F**k this up".
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Gast Carcolh looks done but I'm a little bummed we won't get anything for a while but oh well.
I think it does show that XXI might not be able to beat Goku so easily, Goku doesn't have any obvious weaknesses. The only thing that might be a problem is Goku's transformation time into SSJ Normal but as many have said he can transform before the fight (I mean King Cold did that against Videl). Hell King Cold even did it against Bra while hovering above the air.
Gast doesn't seem to have obvious weaknesses and the most XXI could do was use Janemba to fight for him.
XXI's actual power is still a humongous mystery.
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I think it does show that XXI might not be able to beat Goku so easily, Goku doesn't have any obvious weaknesses. The only thing that might be a problem is Goku's transformation time into SSJ Normal but as many have said he can transform before the fight (I mean King Cold did that against Videl). Hell King Cold even did it against Bra while hovering above the air.
Gast doesn't seem to have obvious weaknesses and the most XXI could do was use Janemba to fight for him.
XXI's actual power is still a humongous mystery.
So is this series skipping all of the specials? I know that some of them are already written in color and that's fine to skip those but what about the ones in black and white?
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I do have a question though since it said there will be 2 minicomics before this does that mean that we won't get a new page in the main story?
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Interesting. I take it this will be a win for the battle and loss for the war.
Unless they want to somehow extend this fight into another chapter, XXI is going to win with one attack next page. (Since there are 2 minicomics that start and then on November 13th the new chapter starts)
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Unless they want to somehow extend this fight into another chapter, XXI is going to win with one attack next page. (Since there are 2 minicomics that start and then on November 13th the new chapter starts)
Wow! That was genuinely unexpected good work! I have a feeling that Janemba will die but XXI will get the kill on Gast very soon.
Gast is likely to be out of power after this.
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Gast is likely to be out of power after this.
Oh nice, the two on the right picture like like 19 and 20's clothes so are we going to get new versions of "Old Androids"? I like the idea but definitely hyped for a Gast special.
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ZenBuu was saying:
Vegetax18 was saying: Wait how did Zenbuu comment 10 days before the page was released LOL
Obviously I'm a translator here too, so I can see and comment on pages already before they release. ^^
AberrantDesign was saying: Vegetax18 was saying: Wait how did Zenbuu comment 10 days before the page was released LOL
I guess he finally managed to figure out Bulma's time travel technology, he's one step closer to getting the universal travel working
Hey, that was a secret! :o
Obviously I'm a translator here too, so I can see and comment on pages already before they release. ^^
AberrantDesign was saying: Vegetax18 was saying: Wait how did Zenbuu comment 10 days before the page was released LOL
I guess he finally managed to figure out Bulma's time travel technology, he's one step closer to getting the universal travel working
Hey, that was a secret! :o
NOOO. I'm not ready with my special attack yet....I can't yet defeat Zen Buu.
In all seriousness though I actually didn't see what was going on in this page but hey....pretty neat move. I think Gast will defeat Janemba but XXI will defeat the worn out Gast.
Gast is looking like this regeneration is going to cost him a lot. I wonder if this fight will continue for another "Main plot" chapter.
Edit: Nevermind I re-read the whole fight and Gast said he's not going to last much longer.
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Edit: Nevermind I re-read the whole fight and Gast said he's not going to last much longer.
Interesting. I do wonder if Gast is holding anything back or if Janemba is?
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Good work! I do imagine the over all fight with XXI will be more than one chapter, but it's possible Gast will defeat Janemba by the end of this one. After that XXI will need something else.
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I did forget that Goku can power up to Super Saiyan 3 without much trouble in the afterlife.
Seriously Goku and Gohan are likely going to regret not using the Fusion dance, I almost can't bare to see Goku and the others erased permanently.
Freeza and Cooler do deserve this but man I had hoped that at least Goku and the others could get a decent afterlife but oh well looks like they can't even have that lol.
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I do also accept that we have to have some plot induced stupidity since Broly HAS to win this to keep continuity. So far it hasn't crossed the line into what I can tolerate I just hope this comic can keep it that way.
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Seriously Goku and Gohan are likely going to regret not using the Fusion dance, I almost can't bare to see Goku and the others erased permanently.
Freeza and Cooler do deserve this but man I had hoped that at least Goku and the others could get a decent afterlife but oh well looks like they can't even have that lol.
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I do also accept that we have to have some plot induced stupidity since Broly HAS to win this to keep continuity. So far it hasn't crossed the line into what I can tolerate I just hope this comic can keep it that way.
PixxyStixx was saying:
South_Ferry was saying: He's gonna lose, but don't worry Goku probably has the smarts to win
That would be such a cop out... Like Gast is stronger and has the magic to contend with XXI what is goku gonna do when he gets teleported out of the timeline like Vegetto? If he manages to beat him its gonna just feel like plot armor.
That would be such a cop out... Like Gast is stronger and has the magic to contend with XXI what is goku gonna do when he gets teleported out of the timeline like Vegetto? If he manages to beat him its gonna just feel like plot armor.
XXI didn't try that on Gast because it wouldn't work twice. Gotenks is able as a kid to scream his way out of the dimension so Goku could do it. He just has to do it right away and considering he had a half hour's worth of fighting in less than a second I'm pretty sure he could scream way faster than that. Goku in his "Ultimate state" or "Normal Super Saiyan".
Gast without his magic is weaker than Goku most likely and since his magic doesn't work here it's not unbelievable that he'd lose and Goku could take out Janemba. Especially when he mastered Vegetto's disintegration technique.
We don't know how strong XXI actually is his power or if he has any obvious weaknesses. Goku has always been a smart fighter.
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As for the page itself. It looks like Janemba is giving him trouble but it's good to know that Janemba (At least for the moment) seems to be much weaker than the major power houses of the tournament.
Gast Greatness was saying:
I am disappointed...that summoning a mere demon is the full extent of XXI's power, while Gast has barely begun to tap into his.
Who said it is? He could have other tricks but he tends to only rely on one thing to beat his opponents. 1 Replie(s)
Mr. Buu, I pledge loyalty to you. Just don't share my info with anyone here please, what must I do.
LOL
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LOL
I hope we at least get to see Janemba do a "Cube Fade" thing at least once.
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For anyone preemptively complaining about how this could happen. If XXI beats Gast and then loses to Goku:
How do we know Goku is going to win? I mean it would be pretty ridiculous for Goku to kill XXI off permanently in the match given all that has to happen and since XXI is "The main villain" well clearly he very likely has more of a story to tell. I doubt very much that the tournament is going to be the end for him.
Maybe Gohan in the vision when he holds the broken Dragon Ball so maybe XXI wins and then everyone has to figure out a way to stop him?
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On the other hand why would it be all that surprising for Goku to win against XXI. Yes XXI "Won" against Vegetto but all he did was trap him inside of a portal. Goku knows about that technique now so it likely wouldn't work or at least Goku would know how to get out of it before the 30 seconds are up.
Goku just like Gast doesn't have a "Weakness" per say. XXI summoned Janemba but it's not implausible that Goku actually has more raw power than Gast if Gast couldn't easily best SSJ3 Vegeta's Ghost Goku's Super Saiyan 3 would likely be stronger by itself. Meaning "Normal Super Saiyan" would curbstomp Janemba.
In fact if Goku transforms from the start into Normal Super Saiyan (Outside of the ring) before he enters then XXI can't exploit the weakness of needing concentration to release his full power.
Either way, we can't jump to conclusions. Especially when we really have no idea the extent of what XXI can do and can't do.
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How do we know Goku is going to win? I mean it would be pretty ridiculous for Goku to kill XXI off permanently in the match given all that has to happen and since XXI is "The main villain" well clearly he very likely has more of a story to tell. I doubt very much that the tournament is going to be the end for him.
Maybe Gohan in the vision when he holds the broken Dragon Ball so maybe XXI wins and then everyone has to figure out a way to stop him?
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On the other hand why would it be all that surprising for Goku to win against XXI. Yes XXI "Won" against Vegetto but all he did was trap him inside of a portal. Goku knows about that technique now so it likely wouldn't work or at least Goku would know how to get out of it before the 30 seconds are up.
Goku just like Gast doesn't have a "Weakness" per say. XXI summoned Janemba but it's not implausible that Goku actually has more raw power than Gast if Gast couldn't easily best SSJ3 Vegeta's Ghost Goku's Super Saiyan 3 would likely be stronger by itself. Meaning "Normal Super Saiyan" would curbstomp Janemba.
In fact if Goku transforms from the start into Normal Super Saiyan (Outside of the ring) before he enters then XXI can't exploit the weakness of needing concentration to release his full power.
Either way, we can't jump to conclusions. Especially when we really have no idea the extent of what XXI can do and can't do.
So Gast's magic doesn't work here? Well that's bad for Gast.
Good for the audience though since we will get a good fight!
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Good for the audience though since we will get a good fight!
Arctika was saying:
Bonsoir, bonsoir !
Veuillez m'excuser pour l'euphorie probablement déplacée après une attente prolongée, ce sentiment m'est devenu bien trop rare et étranger pour que je le fasse taire quand il se présente.
Il m'aura fallu la dépression de trop pour que l'écriture retrouve sa place d'exutoire et d'âme soeur dans ma vie, mais elle semble avoir enfin retrouvé sa place ces derniers temps, et plus particulièrement ce soir, car c'est un grand moment pour moi : j'estime avoir enfin terminé le combat du quatrième tour entre Uub et Son Gokû !
Il va nécessiter une nouvelle relecture par Salagir et Ouv (qui a scénarisé avec moi une nouvelle version du combat), mais il sera prêt à la sortie, je pense avant la fin de l'été !
Cela devrait signifier le retour du roman sur un rythme à l'ancienne, je vais essayer de faire l'ensemble du quatrième tour très vite ; c'est le combat de Vegeta et Cell qui va me demander le plus de travail.
Le roman Buu va prolonger sa pause en conséquence, afin de garantir sereinement le retour du roman principal.
Voilà pour vous donner des infos, je vous rappelle que les coups de main sont autorisés si vous avez envie d'aider, vous pouvez me contacter sur Discord !
Merci et navré pour tout ce silence, j'aurais aimé pouvoir vous dire que la femme et les enfants réclament toute mon attention, mais, n'ayant ni l'une ni les autres... :')
Merci pour votre compréhension !
Veuillez m'excuser pour l'euphorie probablement déplacée après une attente prolongée, ce sentiment m'est devenu bien trop rare et étranger pour que je le fasse taire quand il se présente.
Il m'aura fallu la dépression de trop pour que l'écriture retrouve sa place d'exutoire et d'âme soeur dans ma vie, mais elle semble avoir enfin retrouvé sa place ces derniers temps, et plus particulièrement ce soir, car c'est un grand moment pour moi : j'estime avoir enfin terminé le combat du quatrième tour entre Uub et Son Gokû !
Il va nécessiter une nouvelle relecture par Salagir et Ouv (qui a scénarisé avec moi une nouvelle version du combat), mais il sera prêt à la sortie, je pense avant la fin de l'été !
Cela devrait signifier le retour du roman sur un rythme à l'ancienne, je vais essayer de faire l'ensemble du quatrième tour très vite ; c'est le combat de Vegeta et Cell qui va me demander le plus de travail.
Le roman Buu va prolonger sa pause en conséquence, afin de garantir sereinement le retour du roman principal.
Voilà pour vous donner des infos, je vous rappelle que les coups de main sont autorisés si vous avez envie d'aider, vous pouvez me contacter sur Discord !
Merci et navré pour tout ce silence, j'aurais aimé pouvoir vous dire que la femme et les enfants réclament toute mon attention, mais, n'ayant ni l'une ni les autres... :')
Merci pour votre compréhension !
Je suis heureux d'apprendre que vous êtes sur le point d'avoir terminé !
Alors, est-ce que cela va encore se produire d’ici la fin de l’été ?
Sinon, ce n'est pas grave, juste par curiosité.
Le tournoi secondaire va-t-il continuer ou est-ce pour un prochain chapitre ?
Okay Multiverse, I admit I was completely shocked by this.
Genuinely did not expect that.
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Just for anyone who complains about power levels/scaling. Please keep in mind that Salagir has re-written movie villains to have power levels different than their movie counterparts.
So don't rage out lol.
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This will be interesting.
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Genuinely did not expect that.
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Just for anyone who complains about power levels/scaling. Please keep in mind that Salagir has re-written movie villains to have power levels different than their movie counterparts.
So don't rage out lol.
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This will be interesting.
I thought Cell would last a bit longer but he's actually erased?!
It's pretty insane.
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It's pretty insane.
I really am intrigued it seems like we will finally get something from XXI, other than just one-hit kills.
I wonder if this will be multiple chapters like the Goku vs. Vegeta fight but honestly I'm just hoping it's not another one-hit kill. Anything but that
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I wonder if this will be multiple chapters like the Goku vs. Vegeta fight but honestly I'm just hoping it's not another one-hit kill. Anything but that
Last panel is awesome.
Happy to get back to the main story. I have a feeling Vegetto in the next page is going to be quite pissed that it took Yamcha of all people to save him.
Also before anyone says "Plot Hole- Namekian Healing isn't enough"
1. It's Gast so he's likely much better at it.
2. Salagar said in the comment that if a Namekian had healed him that would have healed half of his wounds. It's not as though the healing would have done NOTHING. It just can't fully restore him.
3. As Gast said Vegetto isn't at full power, he's just not going to bleed out.
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Happy to get back to the main story. I have a feeling Vegetto in the next page is going to be quite pissed that it took Yamcha of all people to save him.
Also before anyone says "Plot Hole- Namekian Healing isn't enough"
1. It's Gast so he's likely much better at it.
2. Salagar said in the comment that if a Namekian had healed him that would have healed half of his wounds. It's not as though the healing would have done NOTHING. It just can't fully restore him.
3. As Gast said Vegetto isn't at full power, he's just not going to bleed out.
Such a picture of a Golden Dragon. Final Dragon Flash is such a great attack don't care what anyone says.
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I do have to wonder what XXI's universe looks like by now after what? 75 Million years....I'k'L said he devoured it so is it just darkness? Are there still some stars?
I really hope that XXI is actually going to show us something more than just a one hit K.O. again.
It was highly disappointing with Universe 4 Buu and it will be horrible if it happens here.
I get that XXI "Never takes risks" but can't he just encounter something unexpected?
I mean Zen Buu was impressed with his power so clearly he has more than just magic. 1 Replie(s)
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I really hope that XXI is actually going to show us something more than just a one hit K.O. again.
It was highly disappointing with Universe 4 Buu and it will be horrible if it happens here.
I get that XXI "Never takes risks" but can't he just encounter something unexpected?
I mean Zen Buu was impressed with his power so clearly he has more than just magic. 1 Replie(s)
I'm not really sure what to think of this.
On the one hand it solves every problem with the timeline. So that's good at least. I do find it kind of funny that Vegeta won easily. It's a bit of dark humor lol
If you really hate it then you can just say Old Kai is mistaken (Although if he's mistaken then this is kind of pointless since he's saying that "this won't work" it's likely because that's what would actually happen).
Still though I guess time will tell.
I really can't wait for the next chapter (Since they said the main story is after this again.
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On the one hand it solves every problem with the timeline. So that's good at least. I do find it kind of funny that Vegeta won easily. It's a bit of dark humor lol
If you really hate it then you can just say Old Kai is mistaken (Although if he's mistaken then this is kind of pointless since he's saying that "this won't work" it's likely because that's what would actually happen).
Still though I guess time will tell.
I really can't wait for the next chapter (Since they said the main story is after this again.
Oh man so conflicted.....I really don't want to see our heroes erased from existence but....we know how this is going to end.
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ZenBuu was saying:
There is only one page left. We should get a news about chapter 101 in the next week.
Oh wow...still a good special over all. Thanks for the info!
Yeah....it's impressive that Vegeta has held on to Super Saiyan 3 for this long but I think he's on his last legs.
We do at least get to see where "Ultimate Raditz" is now. I'm guessing this is going to be the end for Universe 13 and it will end with Vegeta dying.
Although I have to say the suspense is killing me with regards to Gast vs. XXI
I also know that Vegetto (Somehow) was healed after I'k'L (Since he's here now) but I really need to see how the hell he managed to survive.
About how many pages are left in this special about? 1 Replie(s)
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We do at least get to see where "Ultimate Raditz" is now. I'm guessing this is going to be the end for Universe 13 and it will end with Vegeta dying.
Although I have to say the suspense is killing me with regards to Gast vs. XXI
I also know that Vegetto (Somehow) was healed after I'k'L (Since he's here now) but I really need to see how the hell he managed to survive.
About how many pages are left in this special about? 1 Replie(s)
WukongTheMighty was saying:
Why is he struggling so much against a guy who would get beaten by Super Saiyan 1 Gotenks?
This doesn't even make any sense unless he's holding back super saiyan.
This doesn't even make any sense unless he's holding back super saiyan.
That's not the case (At least not from the perspective of the novel). The Novel has SSJ3 Vegeta's Ghost fighting with Gast Carcolh almost evenly and it was stated that Gast's power was reminding everyone of Super Buu with Gotenks absorbed's power.
I don't know if there are other statements that contradict this but it makes the assertion that SSJ3 Vegeta's power is only SSJ1 Gotenks highly questionable.
Honestly I stopped trying to power scale multiverse a while ago to be honest I feel like too many of Salagir's statements, Novel statements and comic statements contain irreconcilable contradictions.
Plus Kakaditz has a big grin on his face so, toying with Vegeta possibly? I dunno.
I like the story but I've sort of just given up on power scaling this thing. 1 Replie(s)
Kakaditz is going to need a lot more than brute force if he's going to beat XXI.
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J.I.L was saying:
Brunom was saying: Despite the less than ideal artwork and this almost certainly being a dream scenario,
I really like that middle panel of SSJ 3 Vegeta and Mystic Kakaditz facing each other.
I only wish it was solely Raditz taking on Vegeta.
The power scailing just wouldn't work. Radditzs as he is now is just too weak, plus has signifcant less potential than Gohan. Honestly, a mystic raddits shouldn't even be ssj Vegeta level if he's stated to only be above the Ginyu Force, which is crazy. I'd at least made radditzs around 2nd and 3rd form frieza. PL of 1.5 million. So a thousand times stronger then what he was during the sayain saga at 1.5 thousand.
I really like that middle panel of SSJ 3 Vegeta and Mystic Kakaditz facing each other.
I only wish it was solely Raditz taking on Vegeta.
The power scailing just wouldn't work. Radditzs as he is now is just too weak, plus has signifcant less potential than Gohan. Honestly, a mystic raddits shouldn't even be ssj Vegeta level if he's stated to only be above the Ginyu Force, which is crazy. I'd at least made radditzs around 2nd and 3rd form frieza. PL of 1.5 million. So a thousand times stronger then what he was during the sayain saga at 1.5 thousand.
Well the novel actually clarified that Raditz is "Weaker than Freeza in his Final Form" but he stated that he was WAY BETTER than the Ginyu force to intimidate Bardock (Since he assumed that was the only basis for camparison). So it's quite possible Raditz is in the millions in Base anyway.
I do agree though that Ultimate Raditz would not have been enough he was never going to beat U13 Vegeta with Super Saiyan 3.
[/quote]SuperSaiyan4Vegetto was saying: Honestly this is good because Kakaditz while he is alone also doesn't possess the desire to rule the Universe like Vegeta does (Since Vegeta doesn't care) and plus if Raditz had been alone with Kakorot he would have died eventually leaving an immortal kakorot on his own. This way Kakorot is no longer in the Universe unhinged but also Raditz and Kakorot will likely (Just like Raditz planned too) not rule the universe.
So Universe 13 is most likely saved from Tyranny (Except in a small local area.
I never understood this idea that Vegeta is the worst of U13. Kakarot is the most evil of the group imo.[/quote]
It's not that he's worse it's that A.) Kakorot can't be killed and also Raditz will look after him (That's what he promised to the Elder Kaioshin anyway). That's how I interpreted Raditz's analysis of the situation.
Honestly this is good because Kakaditz while he is alone also doesn't possess the desire to rule the Universe like Vegeta does (Since Vegeta doesn't care) and plus if Raditz had been alone with Kakorot he would have died eventually leaving an immortal kakorot on his own. This way Kakorot is no longer in the Universe unhinged but also Raditz and Kakorot will likely (Just like Raditz planned too) not rule the universe.
So Universe 13 is most likely saved from Tyranny (Except in a small local area. 2 Replie(s)
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So Universe 13 is most likely saved from Tyranny (Except in a small local area. 2 Replie(s)
So I guess Vegetto's wrath isn't going to happen? This has to take place after Vegetto and I'k'l incident.
I mean I can't imagine anyone in a million years allowing Universe 13 to stay after all of this.
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I mean I can't imagine anyone in a million years allowing Universe 13 to stay after all of this.
Wow I'm impressed although this definitely after Vegetto's incident....although (Unless this is just some weird imaginary scenario). I am quite interested to hear this.
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Well....this is.....honestly the only option but then again...
If Kakorotto fuses with Raditz who is not immortal would he be half immortal?
Would he be like Zamasu or something?
Now that I think about it if Raditz had come back and even if he succeeded in killing Vegeta, Kakorot would be immortal and Raditz would die eventually.
Maybe he their fusion won't be immortal anymore and while they will kill Vegeta and Nappa, they will live out their days in their own corner and eventually die. 1 Replie(s)
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If Kakorotto fuses with Raditz who is not immortal would he be half immortal?
Would he be like Zamasu or something?
Now that I think about it if Raditz had come back and even if he succeeded in killing Vegeta, Kakorot would be immortal and Raditz would die eventually.
Maybe he their fusion won't be immortal anymore and while they will kill Vegeta and Nappa, they will live out their days in their own corner and eventually die. 1 Replie(s)
Well....this is intriguing.
I do think it's better since I did find it hard to believe that even Mystic Raditz could ever defeat U13 Vegeta. Honestly him beating Vegeta at Super Saiyan 2 would be a bit of a stretch IMO
Raditz is not Gohan, I can see Raditz defeating SSJ2 Gohan in the Cell Games maybe even Majin Vegeta as a stretch but the novel said the Cell Jr. who fought Vegeta was "Stronger than the average Super Saiyan 2" which is SSJ2 Goku Buu Saga level.
So honestly even SSJ2 U13 Vegeta would likely be too much for him.
Maybe he can fuse with Nappa? - Probably not since part of the plan for cleaning up was the need to kill Vegeta AND Nappa.
Unless he's going to get rid of Vegeta here. I don't see who it could be. 1 Replie(s)
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I do think it's better since I did find it hard to believe that even Mystic Raditz could ever defeat U13 Vegeta. Honestly him beating Vegeta at Super Saiyan 2 would be a bit of a stretch IMO
Raditz is not Gohan, I can see Raditz defeating SSJ2 Gohan in the Cell Games maybe even Majin Vegeta as a stretch but the novel said the Cell Jr. who fought Vegeta was "Stronger than the average Super Saiyan 2" which is SSJ2 Goku Buu Saga level.
So honestly even SSJ2 U13 Vegeta would likely be too much for him.
Maybe he can fuse with Nappa? - Probably not since part of the plan for cleaning up was the need to kill Vegeta AND Nappa.
Unless he's going to get rid of Vegeta here. I don't see who it could be. 1 Replie(s)
Well this was unexpected but I have a feeling the Elder Kai is going to have something else....something else that will not only help in his eventual fight with Vegeta but also in some way help with XXI.
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Well I know that I'k'L already said that XXI would devour the Universes like he did his own. The extra detail and clarification is good, I do think that people when we finally do get XXI's backstory and how "21" relates to this.
Still though I do think people need to be prepared when a special does happen to explain how XXI won and got stronger over time if it's possible, I know we've been waiting a while but don't set expectations unreasonably high.
Anyway I'm happy for the rest of this special, intrigued about his strategy with Raditz though.
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Still though I do think people need to be prepared when a special does happen to explain how XXI won and got stronger over time if it's possible, I know we've been waiting a while but don't set expectations unreasonably high.
Anyway I'm happy for the rest of this special, intrigued about his strategy with Raditz though.
Well it looks like XXI's backstory may be revealed soon. I imagine Raditz will ask what is going on after seeing him freak out like this.
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Well Raditz with a halo has me intrigued, let's all give it a chance.
If you're really against Broly nobody is twisting your arm and making you read this. We still get the main comic anyway and it's not going to change the schedule of that.
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If you're really against Broly nobody is twisting your arm and making you read this. We still get the main comic anyway and it's not going to change the schedule of that.
ShadowMokujin was saying:
My question is will raditz be stronger than Gohan chan
I honestly wouldn't count on it.
Gohan is a prodigy and although Raditz has been training for a while i'm not so sure he'll be that strong. I think he'll be able to take down high level SSJ2 Vegeta U13 but maybe SSJ3 Vegeta U13 will still lose due to the energy drain.
It is a shame we didn't get to see Raditz turn Super Saiyan before this and he's going right to Ultimate but I like the idea of Raditz being the strongest in the Universe one day. 1 Replie(s)
Okay I know I was wrong but honestly the last line was the best :)
Raditz and the Elder Kai as a couple lol is a funny thought.
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Raditz and the Elder Kai as a couple lol is a funny thought.
WOW!
Is this Elder Kai disguising himself and Raditz? Or is it XXI and his accomplice?
The title page already has intrigued me. 3 Replie(s)
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Is this Elder Kai disguising himself and Raditz? Or is it XXI and his accomplice?
The title page already has intrigued me. 3 Replie(s)
ZenBuu was saying:
Dear god, as soon as Gohan appears on the screen, all the negative comments start again...I'm so glad we are nearly done with this special. Reading most comments during this special was super awful and no fun anymore.
Thank you for at all of your work. I know this may not be worth as much but I know that we would basically have no content during this time if you didn't.
Anyway for what it's worth.
Honestly though this special really makes me want to see Future Gohan in Heaven with Future Goku at least seeing that he had a happy ending. 1 Replie(s)
Honestly this special is very sad but it's supposed to be. Still though I really hope Roshi made it to Heaven given that a few pages earlier Baba said Enma was considering sending him to Hell.
I feel like this has to at least put him over the edge.
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I feel like this has to at least put him over the edge.
Salagir was saying:
Yes, i can say it now: Kamesennin is indeed dead, I don't care about the continuity with the movie.
No submarine ;)
No submarine ;)
Michelrpg was saying:
Salagir was saying: Yes, i can say it now: Kamesennin is indeed dead, I don't care about the continuity with the movie.
No submarine ;)
what continueity? This is the future where the Androids win right? They didn't win in History of Trunks, so this being different shouldnt matter at all.
No submarine ;)
what continueity? This is the future where the Androids win right? They didn't win in History of Trunks, so this being different shouldnt matter at all.
Actually Roshi in the special was alive BEFORE the point where this universe diverged from the timeline we know.
Roshi was still alive when Gohan was a young adult in the TV Special.
Now to be clear the Manga never has Roshi or the Ox-King or heck even Chichi for that matter as still being alive.
Bulma, Future Trunks and Gohan are the only confirmed people who survived the Androids initial assault in the manga.
ZenBuu was saying:
JasonPhoenix was saying: Sure's been a while since the last chapter... While I don't mind waiting per se, I do get worried the translation might be axed with us being none the wiser...
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto was saying: So is there any word on continuation of the Novel? Or any possible timeline? Like 6 months from now? Or maybe 2025?
Again if you're too busy that's fine I just would prefer to know what to expect.
Little bit late reply:
It is not depending on any translation. It's the writer Arctika that has to continue writing the novel. I can ask him how things are looking, but I wouldn't have much hope that it continues very soon.
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto was saying: So is there any word on continuation of the Novel? Or any possible timeline? Like 6 months from now? Or maybe 2025?
Again if you're too busy that's fine I just would prefer to know what to expect.
Little bit late reply:
It is not depending on any translation. It's the writer Arctika that has to continue writing the novel. I can ask him how things are looking, but I wouldn't have much hope that it continues very soon.
It's alright better late than never.
Thanks for the reply.
Color saturation looks perfect. I like the little lightning stuff around Broly's punch in the first panel.
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I think Raditz' Ultimate form is only going to beat Vegeta of U13 because SSJ3 drains power for too long. I could see him defeated U13 SSJ2 Vegeta in a fist to fist fight in Ultimate form but not SSJ3 Vegeta.
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Ammar was saying:
TruzzieArt was saying: Let’s not forget that U16’s Piccolo has a ton of senzu beans so I doubt Vegetto will be dying anytime soon.
No, there's no more senzu beans.
Nothing can save him from that, he's going to die.
No, there's no more senzu beans.
Nothing can save him from that, he's going to die.
True a senzu bean wouldn't do enough (Honestly if you look closely it looks as though Vegetto's lower torso (His stomach) is broken off anyway.
The only way he could survive is if Uub comes back and has powers from Zen Buu or maybe Gast's namekian healing is better than average?
this...meme hilarious.
it is also what makes vegetto go berserk.