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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto un giorno, 3 ora
Thiln ha detto:
Expected. Saw the original on Asura's deviantart account. Really good.

Again, how this doesn't disqualify Kakarot, I don't know.


I think because he was stopped before he hit her, just like with Kat everyone let it go.
DBMultiverse Colors page 411
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 7 Settembre
awesome picture.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 30 Agosto
ZenBuu ha detto:
Last page of the chapter, by the way!

Bunga did some great work again with this fight! Looking forward to the next one, but now we move onto the second flashback chapter with Uub. :D


oh wow, already.

pleasant surprise.

also on another note, why is everyone so surprised at this fight. Does anyone really think Gast didn't increase his powers at all in the next 22 years, like seriously.

Where in the comic has it ever been stated that Gast gained all of his power right when he fused. 1 Risposta/e
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 7 Agosto
YellNinja1600 ha detto:
Seems a bit out of character for Gas to hold back so much. Against frieza and cold he completely destroyed them without giving them much room to do any damage or for Gas to gauge their power.

So this situation I think maybe Gas doesn’t want to kill Cell right away ?

Never took Gas for being a big jobber


Nothing says Gast from the tournament is the same level he is at now.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 4 Agosto
iron leaf ha detto:
Somehow, it would be bittersweet for U7 if Videl and Gohan got together here too, even if their time together would ultimately be short-lived. Similar to U14.


Not necessarily, We know from the tournament that Gast ultimately beats Cell. So it's unlikely the Androids continue their reign of terror unabated. 1 Risposta/e
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 28 Luglio
iron leaf ha detto:
According to the latest information, four pages are to be published weekly, starting today. However, due to an error, no new page has been published today. We are working on a solution immediately. Thank you for your understanding.


Thank you very much
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 28 Luglio
Nice work, I do wonder if Gast will need help from Gohan. 1 Risposta/e
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 25 Luglio
awesome so does it start this sunday or today
News v2, id 22
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 20 Luglio
finally a moment of badassery from vegetto...although...xxi made his wish. 1 Risposta/e
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 6 Luglio
Well #16 being angered over someone killing Goku is quite an irony lol.

At the same time though, it would have been better had Goku rushed XXI very fast after getting out and then although XXI bests him. XXI then uses this ability.

It still would have fit with XXI not taking risks but it also would have allowed Goku's incredible speed in this form to shine forth. Even if it didn't win.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 6 Luglio
Oh Trunks' girlfriend. Nice.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 5 Luglio
iron leaf ha detto:
Please stop falling for the sunk cost fallacy. I can't believe people are still doing this after 2500+ pages.

XXI beat Vegetto with an OHK. XXI beat #18 with an OHK. XXI defeated Zen Buu with an OHK. And now Goku too. That was totally expected. Especially if you read carefully. Retroactively, page 2462 indirectly says that XXI has already won. Because he has discovered an OHK that he can use on Goku, and that's what happened in the end. (Gast is the exception, and if XXI was aware of IKL's time stop ability before his semifinal fight would have started, then XXI definitely would have used that on Gast as well.)

In the end, unfortunately, Goku wasn't wearing any of those.
But on the contrary, for once, the same rules are applied to him as to everyone else. This comic has shown time and time again that the heroes, the DBZ fighters in general, even Goku himself, do not get special treatment as was the case in DB/Z. Our heroes can be killed by a Kienzan just as easily as a villain, for example. And after 2500+ pages, that's still an integral part of DBM's take on DB. If you don't see it, then I have to wonder if you don't remember a completely different comic and you just have an ideal wish list that unfortunately doesn't come true.

And don't let the covers fool you anymore. Asura only draws in the covers that he thinks are amusing or epic. That doesn't necessarily mean it's part of the chapter like for example One Piece covers. Do you remember the cover of chapter 86? And the actual content of the chapter?



I really have to ask is there any point at which the authors can do anything wrong? I mean the only people here that are emotional are the authors who get and mods who have gotten so hyper-sensitive over the years.

lol, if you are going to take 15 years to get to a pay off and it's unsatisfying...well too bad. Don't expect praise and adoration from fans. Voicing dissatisfaction is not getting emotional.

Furthermore the cover for Chapter 86 that you give as an example is another fine, example. That's disappointing too, there are countless other covers that while certainly colorful and not always literal have given good satisfaction.

Furthermore if anything Salagir's take has been that power isn't everything and has tried to make it so that people who have abilities other than power (Like Gast Carcolh who is ALOT weaker than Zen Buu and Vegetto) actually can have a chance despite being weaker. Also this power wouldn't have worked on Gast since he could just regenerate.
So yes, given that the final is supposed to usually be a fight that exceeds the others....yes sure....it's fine to make XXI win. Doing it this way...is in no way satisfying....sorry.

It's also not about giving Goku special treatment. Was Gast "Getting special treatment" because he lasted longer? They found a way to make him last longer against XXI despite, him being weaker than both Vegetto and Zen Buu. It's creative and it worked.

Making Goku lose without a 1 hit KO is not giving him special treatment.

There are going to be a lot of opinions about and if the authors are upset by it...well too bad. 1 Risposta/e
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 4 Luglio
Goku, 1 punch man
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 4 Luglio
Well, the story isn't over. Though I guess it's a wrap for the tournament. 1 Risposta/e
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 2 Luglio
well...i imagine i'll probably have to wait several more pages to realize what just happened. oh well...it works as a 'wtf' moment.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 27 Giugno
Yeah that can't be his only trick.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 21 Giugno
XXI can you wait for a moment? Imagine if XXI says no. Not like he has a choice though. Still that was Goku's only weakness and XXI can't use it. XXI may have power but he's a huge coward and doesn't take risks. 1 Risposta/e
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 19 Giugno
Okay not bad. Nice illustrations, I do like the added fact that Buu messed with the Varga's minds.

Glad that Goku vs. Uub should be starting next time.
Fanfic dbm, chapter 167
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 17 Giugno
You know, honestly....for anyone who says Goku can't be competitive here...look I know that even his "Normal" Super Saiyan form cannot compete with Vegetto but still, XXI has never been about Power.

Not to mention, I know he "Doesn't take risks" but is that because if he fights a while he has an easily exploitable weakness?

I mean...Salagir a long time ago said that "Goku and Vegeta will amaze us" but it won't be a mere matter of power. So I'm giving this a shot.
News v2, id 21
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 6 Giugno
For a guy who can read minds....he really sucks. I guess Kaioshin incompetence truly knows no bounds.

Not complaining just FYI, just commenting on the story.

I do wonder is XXI somehow influencing him?
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 28 Maggio
beeruz ha detto:
This is so disappointing but tbf it's kinda crazy to expect raditz to go from less than 1st form Frieza to about ssj2 level (which I think is where south is).keep in mind Gohan went from ssj2 level to stronger than super Saiyan 3 and super Buu so more than 4x but less than buutenks so but that's really all we know so raditz in comparison shouldn't really improve that much in comparison.Still should have put up a better fight.


Agreed although Raditz is most likely stronger than 3rd Form Freeza especially since his Great Ape form was able to fight against Bardock as a Super Saiyan for a while.

Honestly though, we already know that Raditz isn't going to be able to beat SSJ2 Vegeta of his own Universe since Old Kai said in his vision of the future that he wouldn't. 1 Risposta/e
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 21 Maggio
Well...I can definitely see how Universe 18 is going to become the primary protagonists again.

I wonder what's going on with Uub. I know this next chapter is going to be about Goku and XXI but I do hope that we get to see Uub rather soon.

So far the other universes' participation with XXI seems to be like this:


Universe 1, Universe 2 Mare Su, Universe 7 Gast, Universe 9 Humans, Universe 12, Universe 16 (Without Vegetto), Universe 18 and Universe 19

vs.

Universe 5 XXI, U16 Vegetto, Universe 8, Universe 13, Universe 14 and Some Universe 1 Vargas I imagine U17 Cell will join this side too
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 18 Maggio
This plan is far more reasonable than people think.

Remember, XXI isn't going to destroy a new universe overnight there will probably be millions of years of eating in just one universe. After all XXI has survived 75,000,000 years in his universe alone. So if one universe can make him survive say even 10,000,000 years then Vegeta and the others are likely safe for at least that long. The chances that after that he'd immediately go to Vegeta's Universe (The new one that is) is slim at best and by that time Vegeta (If he wishes for immortality) will likely be too strong to contend with.

Of course if he doesn't he'll be long dead.

Of course the more likely idea is that XXI will likely go through a HUGE amount of universes before Vegeta (And with a time period of 10s of millions of years EACH time) ---- Vegeta and the others have infinite amounts of time to get stronger or just move somewhere else. 1 Risposta/e
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 16 Maggio
Aki ha detto:
So.. is there gonna be a new chapter soon?



JasonPhoenix ha detto:
0h? The novelization got added to the news... Could it be?



Zen Kuu ha detto:
Was this a mistake? This page is old


It's in french right now. Click the language button and you will see chapter 166. I suspect it will be translated soon but it's over there.
Fanfic dbm, chapter 165
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 11 Maggio
Whoa...so they're dead. Thought they'd be expelled but geez...
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 8 Maggio
iron leaf ha detto:
Vegetto must be really hungry if he's actually considering eating this.


this...meme hilarious.

it is also what makes vegetto go berserk.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 7 Maggio
wow...this is starting to get interesting.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 1 Maggio
i really hope this is some mind control crap because they amount of pis i would have to believe here is a little much.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 27 Aprile
okay...what exactly is the elder kai asking him to do.

"You can't win." um...okay well how is he supposed to win his match do you have a suggestion as to HOW he can win if you CAN'T POWER HIM UP? If so maybe you should tell him. If you don't...well what exactly do you expect him to do.

What do you mean "Go above and beyond"? He knows nothing about XXI so how exactly is he supposed to strategize?
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 21 Aprile
so cell is clearly stronger than king cold but he lacks their dna. so he's weaker than the perfect cell we know but i do like the attention to detail with the continuity and changing the design just enough to be recognizable.

very good looks good in both color and black and white. You can still see his tail.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 30 Marzo
So Captain Chicken is Super Saiyan Gohan then? Interesting.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 26 Marzo
Xman34 ha detto:
Hello, I hope you like this new page!

Since I really love this Bardock SSJ, I thought it deserved a full-page tribute.

I started from the small panel on the previous page, which wasn’t very well-defined (and wasn’t meant to be this large).
I kept the dynamic and proportions, which were excellent, and by tweaking a few things, I ended up with a solid full-page composition:


A bit of color and a more refined background, and here we are with the final page.

See you soon! ;)


Interesting choice. I gotta say though tht I never get tired of Raditz saying "I CAN SQUASH YOU WITH MY FINGER"

Bardock: Whips out Super Saiyan

Raditz: Oh fuck....that's so unfair.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 23 Marzo
Oh so Videl is controlling Android 28? Like a video game, that's hilarious and un-expected. 1 Risposta/e
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 18 Marzo
Good work...I'm actually kind of happy about this. Honestly though...Majin Buu was the real idiot here. Gogeta was fine but Majin Buu while he was more intelligent then his "Fat" version like the previous version he was not very smart. Like many have said he could have done a lot of other things

But I'm actually glad you're doing this chapter.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 13 Marzo
I mean I have to say...I expected this to be dark but not this dark. I didn't think the entire realm of the dead would be gone. I mean it's supposed to be so I guess it did it's job.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 12 Marzo
Please don't kill Krillin...please don't kill Krillin. He's the last surviving (Well okay Yajerobie is still there) major fighter for the earth.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 6 Marzo
I know Dragon Ball has a lot of different fights where "Bigger number wins" and that anyone with a lower number winning is a "Plot-device" or a plot convenience but do Dragon Ball fans have no ability to break from that mold at all.

Look there are things about this story that I didn't like, I'll grant you but this is not "Plot-convenient". Gogeta didn't win...well there was more to it than that. A.) Janemba interfered and Elder Kai for a brief time told Gogeta to top fighting at Super Saiyan 3. So it wasn't a straight up fight, if Gogeta had fought this Broly to the end one on one he'd likely have destroyed him with the Stardust Breaker AND after that once he un-transformed (Like he did here) then Gogeta could have killed him.

The Fusion dance lasts for less time...you can't just say "Because Gogeta is stronger than Super Vegetto (DBM) therefore he always inherently has to win".

This story is far from the "Worst" in fact I'd say it's in many ways better than other specials that are official to DBM (No disrespect for the authors of those).

Janemba interfered, I will admit that Buu could have been written better but this is far from the worst thing and on top of that...this special isn't even "DBM Canon". 1 Risposta/e
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 2 Marzo
mulled_piss ha detto:
Can't he just teleport Goku to another dimension like he did Vegito


Goku will have seen that and will scream immediately to get out. Vegetto didn't know time was passing by slowly in there. Goku would and considering this new form known as "Normal Super Saiyan" was able to have a half hour's worth of fighting in a half a second he'd blow out of it quickly".

Dang it though now I'm probably going to have to wait until the next chapter with Gast is over to know what the wish is
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 28 Febbraio
Maybe his Dragon has limited powers BUT they take much less time to regenerate then Shenron on Porunga.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 26 Febbraio
ZenBuu ha detto:
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto was saying: ZenBuu was saying: Moe2231 was saying: ZenBuu was saying: JasonPhoenix was saying: Sure's been a while since the last chapter... While I don't mind waiting per se, I do get worried the translation might be axed with us being none the wiser...

SuperSaiyan4Vegetto was saying: So is there any word on continuation of the Novel? Or any possible timeline? Like 6 months from now? Or maybe 2025?

Again if you're too busy that's fine I just would prefer to know what to expect.
Little bit late reply:

It is not depending on any translation. It's the writer Arctika that has to continue writing the novel. I can ask him how things are looking, but I wouldn't have much hope that it continues very soon.

Asking, do you know if the novels will be continued for powerscaling sake. For the uub and goku fight and goku vs vegeta fight.
It will be continued, that's for sure. Just be patient please. Afaik Arctika has already written Cell vs Vegeta.

Thank you for the update. I'm glad to hear he's written Vegeta vs. Cell, does that mean that all of the stuff between that part and the end of the majin saga has been written as well?

If so, then would it be possible to just release SOME of the stuff like maybe what he has until Goku vs. Uub? Then wait for the rest that he has afterwards?

If not then fine but...just asking.
I would assume he has written everything in between too. :D

Unfortunately I can't answer you the rest, it's been a while since I talked to him the last time. I will ask him again and keep you guys updated here, as soon as I have any more info.


Thanks Zen Buu!

If he can't do that can you use some of that knowledge that you gained when absorbing Bulma to make us a Time Machine so that maybe I can use that to go into the Future? Lol
(Sorry couldn't resist)
Fanfic dbm, chapter 165
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 26 Febbraio
I gotta be honest, this scene doesn't make sense to me. Yamcha of the 9th Universe had 18 pinned to the ground all he had to do was hold her there and the varga was counting.

If he hadn't forfeited he would have won so why does Eleim "Need" to kill him if he holds him down for more than 30 seconds isn't that a win anyway?
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 26 Febbraio
ZenBuu ha detto:
Moe2231 was saying: ZenBuu was saying: JasonPhoenix was saying: Sure's been a while since the last chapter... While I don't mind waiting per se, I do get worried the translation might be axed with us being none the wiser...

SuperSaiyan4Vegetto was saying: So is there any word on continuation of the Novel? Or any possible timeline? Like 6 months from now? Or maybe 2025?

Again if you're too busy that's fine I just would prefer to know what to expect.
Little bit late reply:

It is not depending on any translation. It's the writer Arctika that has to continue writing the novel. I can ask him how things are looking, but I wouldn't have much hope that it continues very soon.

Asking, do you know if the novels will be continued for powerscaling sake. For the uub and goku fight and goku vs vegeta fight.
It will be continued, that's for sure. Just be patient please. Afaik Arctika has already written Cell vs Vegeta.


Thank you for the update. I'm glad to hear he's written Vegeta vs. Cell, does that mean that all of the stuff between that part and the end of the majin saga has been written as well?

If so, then would it be possible to just release SOME of the stuff like maybe what he has until Goku vs. Uub? Then wait for the rest that he has afterwards?

If not then fine but...just asking. 1 Risposta/e
Fanfic dbm, chapter 165
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 24 Febbraio
Sayazur ha detto:
FYI: Janemba is not brought back to life by Shin's wish. As we said at the DBM tournament, Janemba is not a living being in the strict sense of the word. He was destroyed and just ceased to exist.


That's good. I have to admit...everyone thought this battle would end horribly...but I have to admit the battle was enjoyable and maybe there can be an "Alternate ending" to the Dragon Ball Multiverse's Universe 20.

I don't think I've ever hated on this comic but I admit I had my suspicions that this could end with good writing. So well done.

I realize the ending hasn't happened yet but I have confidence you'll manage to do this.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 20 Febbraio
Honestly I never thought I would get this or ever could get this. I'm genuinely curious as to how this will play out. Gogeta didn't lose because of stupidity or interference or even hesitating so I honestly don't know how the Z Fighters are supposed to "Lose".

I mean in all honesty I would prefer to have this be the main ending to the Broly fight but Universe 20 is an even further deviation maybe where Vegeta messed up the Fusion dance or something and as a result Broly beat them and the whole "Ice dimension" was broken.

I don't know but either way this writer has given me confidence for a good ending to this story.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 17 Febbraio
Well...this is...surprising. I mean, I gotta be honest I don't see how Broly gets out of this if the body is already capable of being obliterated. How does he make it out of this?

I gotta hand it to the writer...this is...significantly better than I thought. There were no plans that were overtly dumb...they used Gogeta at Super Saiyan 3 and didn't use the cliche' of making him de-fuse. He delivered his attack at this point I genuinely don't think even if they lose that our heroes could have anticipated any of what would happen next.

I predict that this new "Ice Realm" or whatever will come into play somehow but...I genuinely have to admit. I'm impressed. 1 Risposta/e
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 16 Febbraio
This was funnier than expected (This segment that is). I'm curious though will this chapter end on a cliff-hanger of Goku beginning his fight with XXI OR maybe XXI's whole plan is to have Vegetto (Somehow) either through control, persuasion (God knows how) to have Vegetto create another incident so that XXI can buy time for whatever it is he needs to beat Goku.

Or it could be that Goku's weakness is just "He can't go Normal Super Saiyan without extreme concentration". XXI tries to use that against him but Goku already transforms before the fight which puts XXI in a bind.

Just out of curiosity do any mods know how many pages are left in this chapter? Not saying I'm not enjoying it, just wondering. 1 Risposta/e
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 12 Febbraio
I mean an interesting question: Since Gogeta's Stardust Breaker targets evil...and apparently targets the "Soul". Broly's body might be invulnerable but could Gogeta destroy his soul?

Is his Soul invulnerable too? It would be kind of interesting if Broly collapsed dead with his soul being destroyed.

I too am calling that Gogeta is going to de-fuse since he kind of has too.

We know the Z Fighters are going to lose at some point but either way this comic has surprised me in a lot of ways better than I thought it would be even if I did know the outcome.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 2 Febbraio
Well played...I wonder what will happen now. I guess Elder Kai will give them his backstory since Dai Kaioshin didn't care anymore.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 31 Gennaio
Finally seems like there will be some interaction between XXI and others outside of battle. Still though are those Balls, Dragon Balls? Balls that have been turned to stone?
Interesting that XXI is mad about not being able to eat haha I guess him and Vegetto have something in common. 2 Risposta/e
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 30 Gennaio
This was quite an interesting page, I hope we get more intel on XXI when he meets with his "Other" figure.

仅是剑客 ha detto:
Wasn't Bra believe Janemba was weak? https://w...393.html#h_read
She really has became a clown as her father now.
Goku is better to learn from Gast and Uub instead of listening to her.


That's why she said "I'm not sure I could have beaten him AFTER ALL" she mistakenly underestimated him in the beginning saying he'd be easy for Gast to defeat. I agree that Uub or Gast are more qualified then her but it's not an inconsistency.


hetap ha detto:
Uhh...so Gast is just not going to tell them all that XXI attacked him after forfeiting and is 100% evil and a huge threat? Not going to tell them all XXI tried to EAT him? No? I will give it a few more pages to see if he has anything else to say but if he never brings any of that up...that will be a pretty bad miss and will make Gast look really stupid. It will be completely jarring to the story and really take me out of it tbh.

Also, wtf is Bra talking about not knowing if she could beat Janemba? She is above mystic Gohan who is stronger than Janemba? That comment makes no sense at all.


Like with so many other characters from the movies, while they have nearly identical appearances and even backstories in some cases their power levels are almost NEVER the same as their toei iterations. The only one that seems to be close was Bojack.

Other than that though, Cooler was strong enough to give a good fight to Super Saiyan Goku in the Multiverse version of events. Broly's powers are obviously different on a fundamental level based on his invulnerability and his fight with Vegetto.

Hirudegarn has similar powers but his powers are actually fairly low compared to his toei version that can easily beat Ultimate Gohan. He does have invincibility similar to Broly's though.

So why does Janemba have to be only equal to his Movie 12 counterpart?

— ---

Also for everyone who constantly insisting that Goku doing anything to XXI would be an asspull. Need I remind you that we know almost NOTHING About XXI. He's not a conventional fighter, that should be abundantly obvious by now. Vegetto "Lost" because XXI used a trick to get him away there, Goku doesn't have to surpass Vegetto, Buu or anyone else. XXI only attacked Gast directly when he was already absolutely spent.

Goku doesn't have any weaknesses, the only thing I could think of is he requires concentration to unleash his new power. (The Ultimate form, normal Super Saiyan)

That's pretty easy though all Goku has to do is power up into the form before the fight starts. If XXI attacks he'll be disqualified, the only other thing is that XXI absorbs energy...which Goku has dealt with before.

You may not like it, but it's not implausible that Goku could find a way to win.

Plus there is going to be more story after the tournament itself so it's not like it would be the end of an arc.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 26 Gennaio
Definitely glad Gast is still alive. Initially I thought XXI was just afraid because he thought they knew that he broke the rules but does he have some other weakness that he needs the break after his fight.

Also first time we've seen a naked Namekian! 1 Risposta/e
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 22 Gennaio
Oh...alas....if only XXI had bothered to remember Namekians hearing.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 19 Gennaio
I gotta admit I'm genuinely not sure what will happen. I mean Gast isn't going to win I know that but XXI could definitely kill him and absorb his power possibly.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 15 Gennaio
Wow XXI is either an incredible coward or Gast's stamina is OFF the charts....or both. 2 Risposta/e
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 12 Gennaio
Gast is likely nearing his end. Sadly
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 8 Gennaio
ZenBuu ha detto:
Damn, XXI really seems menacing here...

Also interesting how his speech bubble is shaped. I wonder how his voice sounds like.

Is it just me, or does XXI's silhouette look a little bit like semi perfect Cell in the last panel?


Yes I agree. The novel actually describes his voice as "Grave" and "In-human". It was in the novel version of Multiverse when Zen Buu came into XXI's room between the 2nd and 3rd rounds.


On another note, I do have to wonder if this is some sort of attack or it's just concealing Gast from the audience so that he can win by 30 count.

If it's the latter it's possible Gast might have discovered a weakness that Goku can use.

Honestly Goku should be powering up to "Normal Super Saiyan" in the interim so XXI can't interrupt his transformation. Especially since it doesn't seem to drain ki at all.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 5 Gennaio
Wow....I don't know what to expect here.
XXI doesn't seem to be a direct fighter so is just going to crush him with the smoke.
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 1 Gennaio
Interesting.

I'm glad they are doing stuff with Thorn as well as Krillin and Videl. The note on the bottom says they'll start the main story again? I have to admit, that's a welcome surprise, I imagine we'll get to see the conclusion to XXI vs. Gast. 1 Risposta/e
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 26 Dicembre
So I'm guessing, Gogeta will need to divert some of his power to defeat Janemba, then he'll de-fuse and otherwise we can assume Gogeta would have defeated Broly. 1 Risposta/e
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 23 Dicembre
Hmm, this is getting interesting.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 51
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 22 Dicembre
ROFL!!!!!

Okay this page was genuinely hilarious. That's a Dragon Ball first.
DB Multiverse page 2432
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 20 Dicembre
I'm definitely here for it. I also wonder though....will Cell look much different because, Freeza and King Cold never came to earth in this timeline. So he couldn't have gotten the cells of the others.

The only ones left alive here are Krillin, Yajerobie and Bulma. This is a hell of a bleak future, Vegeta may still be off in space though but he's still VERY VERY evil.
DB Multiverse page 2430
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 17 Dicembre
Sayazur ha detto:
Teleported_Bread was saying: Shabby was saying: The implication is of page 32 is that he did.

At worst, it's ambiguous as to whether they know.
That and my hunch about being wrong about the Dragon Balls having the power to repair the barrier was correct. I probably should have looked. But page 31 more heavily plays in the idea that Elder Kai did indeed not tell the other fighters. I'm pretty sure Gohan saying they were 'almost there' was in reference to their goal to shock Broly out of his LSSJ form and not an answer to the Elder Kai's reaction, who, btw, said they would pull everyone out of the afterlife with Broly if the situation 'becomes too critical'. Hopefully that's what's gonna happen. I can see why people would see the ice barrier being shattered here, but I hope it's just a big shockwave or something like what happened in the Gogeta VS Broly fight towards the end of the DBS: Broly movie, and that everyone will indeed be pulled out instead of letting the universe destabilize, anyway.

Someone said the author admitted to not liking this story. I actually do like it, but I'm hoping there isn't a more specific reason for it like, let's say, a poor ending.

The Old Kaioshin does talk to Kibitoshin.
Also, I’m not saying I don’t like this story.
The thing is, this story should have been very different from the final result, and because of some issues, I had to remove/modify a lot of things.
There’s a “Sayazur Cut” sitting in the drawer, but unfortunately, it will never see the light of day ^^’.

仅是剑客 was saying: I guess the universe will be saved in the end. Since Broly was found in Universe 20.
It just really stupid for Gogeta to fight Broly with no plan. How about instant transmit Broly into a Black hole again? Which Kaioshin should do in the beginning of this story.
Why kibitoshin didnt't teleport Buu in the sun ?
Why didn't goku and his frieds killed gero 3 years before the android activation ?
Why didn't kibito teleport Buu cocoon in the sun ?
It is actually a solution for these character, but :
— there will be no story.
— Broly survived litterally the BIGGEST black Hole in the universe


Why didn't Kabitoshin teleport Buu? Simple, Toriyama's version of Dragon Ball never established that Buu can't survive the sun or anything else like that. Kabito Could have broken the seal and then released Buu. ---

Yes sometimes there has to be a story and plot induced stupidity but come on......they've had 3 prior fights to Broly....they've had 1 year to prepare for this. They know that fighting like this won't work...they have to know by now. They lost to him the last time because they used hand to hand combat....you can't really complain if people find it hard that Gogeta (Who has a slow time limit) is going to de-fuse.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 49
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 15 Dicembre
I think this is going to be a multi-part special. That's what they said before so I take it this is going to explain Goku's fate (Dead from the virus)...Vegeta turned Super Saiyan in the last special so. Gohan is likely dead but I do wonder about Vegeta though.
DB Multiverse page 2429
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 11 Dicembre
Still trying to get used to the Varga's different colors, not complaining. Just a noticeable and an interesting touch.
DBMultiverse Colors page 265
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 6 Dicembre
BaldSuperSaiyan ha detto:
Is the absorb that good or does this make Gast seem weak. Like how is he the semi finalist and not just instantly beating these androids?


There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Gast's power is static. He likely has improved over the many decades he's existed.

I really doubt that this Gast is meant to be as strong as the one from the tournament. 1 Risposta/e
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 2 Dicembre
Sayazur ha detto:
I hope everyone get the reference of the first three pannel here ^^


I can't speak for everyone else but I did :)
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 45
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 1 Dicembre
Goku is very likely dead since the heart virus happened, Krillin though this is unexpected but fun. 1 Risposta/e
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 29 Novembre
Stardust Breaker could may not be able to destroy Broly's body but his soul? Nothing says that's invulnerable!
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 44
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 25 Novembre
I wonder how long this will hold out.

Is this somehow going to subvert and be a happy ending but they can't wish back all the damage Broly did or maybe the Dragon balls are destroyed.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 43
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 23 Novembre
Well this is quite interesting! Neither of my predictions were correct #28 and #31??
DB Multiverse page 2419
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 20 Novembre
To quote Abridged Shenron "Can't wait to see how you F**k this up".
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 41
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 9 Novembre 2024
Gast Carcolh looks done but I'm a little bummed we won't get anything for a while but oh well.

I think it does show that XXI might not be able to beat Goku so easily, Goku doesn't have any obvious weaknesses. The only thing that might be a problem is Goku's transformation time into SSJ Normal but as many have said he can transform before the fight (I mean King Cold did that against Videl). Hell King Cold even did it against Bra while hovering above the air.

Gast doesn't seem to have obvious weaknesses and the most XXI could do was use Janemba to fight for him.

XXI's actual power is still a humongous mystery.
DB Multiverse page 2414
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 6 Novembre 2024
So is this series skipping all of the specials? I know that some of them are already written in color and that's fine to skip those but what about the ones in black and white? 2 Risposta/e
DBMultiverse Colors page 250
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 4 Novembre 2024
I do have a question though since it said there will be 2 minicomics before this does that mean that we won't get a new page in the main story?
News v2, id 13
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 3 Novembre 2024
Interesting. I take it this will be a win for the battle and loss for the war.

Unless they want to somehow extend this fight into another chapter, XXI is going to win with one attack next page. (Since there are 2 minicomics that start and then on November 13th the new chapter starts)
DB Multiverse page 2413
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 27 Ottobre 2024
Wow! That was genuinely unexpected good work! I have a feeling that Janemba will die but XXI will get the kill on Gast very soon.

Gast is likely to be out of power after this.
DB Multiverse page 2410
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 27 Ottobre 2024
Oh nice, the two on the right picture like like 19 and 20's clothes so are we going to get new versions of "Old Androids"? I like the idea but definitely hyped for a Gast special. 2 Risposta/e
News v2, id 13
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 25 Ottobre 2024
ZenBuu ha detto:
Vegetax18 was saying: Wait how did Zenbuu comment 10 days before the page was released LOL
Obviously I'm a translator here too, so I can see and comment on pages already before they release. ^^

AberrantDesign was saying: Vegetax18 was saying: Wait how did Zenbuu comment 10 days before the page was released LOL
I guess he finally managed to figure out Bulma's time travel technology, he's one step closer to getting the universal travel working
Hey, that was a secret! :o


NOOO. I'm not ready with my special attack yet....I can't yet defeat Zen Buu.

In all seriousness though I actually didn't see what was going on in this page but hey....pretty neat move. I think Gast will defeat Janemba but XXI will defeat the worn out Gast.
DB Multiverse page 2408
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 23 Ottobre 2024
Gast is looking like this regeneration is going to cost him a lot. I wonder if this fight will continue for another "Main plot" chapter.

Edit: Nevermind I re-read the whole fight and Gast said he's not going to last much longer.
DB Multiverse page 2407
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 6 Ottobre 2024
Awesome work!
DB Multiverse page 2401
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 4 Ottobre 2024
Interesting. I do wonder if Gast is holding anything back or if Janemba is?
DB Multiverse page 2400
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 30 Settembre 2024
Good work! I do imagine the over all fight with XXI will be more than one chapter, but it's possible Gast will defeat Janemba by the end of this one. After that XXI will need something else.
DB Multiverse page 2398
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 30 Settembre 2024
I did forget that Goku can power up to Super Saiyan 3 without much trouble in the afterlife.

Seriously Goku and Gohan are likely going to regret not using the Fusion dance, I almost can't bare to see Goku and the others erased permanently.

Freeza and Cooler do deserve this but man I had hoped that at least Goku and the others could get a decent afterlife but oh well looks like they can't even have that lol.

— ----

I do also accept that we have to have some plot induced stupidity since Broly HAS to win this to keep continuity. So far it hasn't crossed the line into what I can tolerate I just hope this comic can keep it that way.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 26
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 19 Settembre 2024
PixxyStixx ha detto:
South_Ferry was saying: He's gonna lose, but don't worry Goku probably has the smarts to win

That would be such a cop out... Like Gast is stronger and has the magic to contend with XXI what is goku gonna do when he gets teleported out of the timeline like Vegetto? If he manages to beat him its gonna just feel like plot armor.


XXI didn't try that on Gast because it wouldn't work twice. Gotenks is able as a kid to scream his way out of the dimension so Goku could do it. He just has to do it right away and considering he had a half hour's worth of fighting in less than a second I'm pretty sure he could scream way faster than that. Goku in his "Ultimate state" or "Normal Super Saiyan".

Gast without his magic is weaker than Goku most likely and since his magic doesn't work here it's not unbelievable that he'd lose and Goku could take out Janemba. Especially when he mastered Vegetto's disintegration technique.

We don't know how strong XXI actually is his power or if he has any obvious weaknesses. Goku has always been a smart fighter.

— ---

As for the page itself. It looks like Janemba is giving him trouble but it's good to know that Janemba (At least for the moment) seems to be much weaker than the major power houses of the tournament.
DB Multiverse page 2393
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 13 Settembre 2024
Gast Greatness ha detto:
I am disappointed...that summoning a mere demon is the full extent of XXI's power, while Gast has barely begun to tap into his.


Who said it is? He could have other tricks but he tends to only rely on one thing to beat his opponents. 1 Risposta/e
DB Multiverse page 2391
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 9 Settembre 2024
Mr. Buu, I pledge loyalty to you. Just don't share my info with anyone here please, what must I do.

LOL
Minicomic page 119
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 8 Settembre 2024
I hope we at least get to see Janemba do a "Cube Fade" thing at least once. 1 Risposta/e
DB Multiverse page 2389
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 7 Settembre 2024
For anyone preemptively complaining about how this could happen. If XXI beats Gast and then loses to Goku:

How do we know Goku is going to win? I mean it would be pretty ridiculous for Goku to kill XXI off permanently in the match given all that has to happen and since XXI is "The main villain" well clearly he very likely has more of a story to tell. I doubt very much that the tournament is going to be the end for him.

Maybe Gohan in the vision when he holds the broken Dragon Ball so maybe XXI wins and then everyone has to figure out a way to stop him?

— ---

On the other hand why would it be all that surprising for Goku to win against XXI. Yes XXI "Won" against Vegetto but all he did was trap him inside of a portal. Goku knows about that technique now so it likely wouldn't work or at least Goku would know how to get out of it before the 30 seconds are up.

Goku just like Gast doesn't have a "Weakness" per say. XXI summoned Janemba but it's not implausible that Goku actually has more raw power than Gast if Gast couldn't easily best SSJ3 Vegeta's Ghost Goku's Super Saiyan 3 would likely be stronger by itself. Meaning "Normal Super Saiyan" would curbstomp Janemba.

In fact if Goku transforms from the start into Normal Super Saiyan (Outside of the ring) before he enters then XXI can't exploit the weakness of needing concentration to release his full power.

Either way, we can't jump to conclusions. Especially when we really have no idea the extent of what XXI can do and can't do.
DB Multiverse page 2388
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 1 Settembre 2024
So Gast's magic doesn't work here? Well that's bad for Gast.

Good for the audience though since we will get a good fight!
DB Multiverse page 2386
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 31 Agosto 2024
Arctika ha detto:
Bonsoir, bonsoir !

Veuillez m'excuser pour l'euphorie probablement déplacée après une attente prolongée, ce sentiment m'est devenu bien trop rare et étranger pour que je le fasse taire quand il se présente.
Il m'aura fallu la dépression de trop pour que l'écriture retrouve sa place d'exutoire et d'âme soeur dans ma vie, mais elle semble avoir enfin retrouvé sa place ces derniers temps, et plus particulièrement ce soir, car c'est un grand moment pour moi : j'estime avoir enfin terminé le combat du quatrième tour entre Uub et Son Gokû !
Il va nécessiter une nouvelle relecture par Salagir et Ouv (qui a scénarisé avec moi une nouvelle version du combat), mais il sera prêt à la sortie, je pense avant la fin de l'été !
Cela devrait signifier le retour du roman sur un rythme à l'ancienne, je vais essayer de faire l'ensemble du quatrième tour très vite ; c'est le combat de Vegeta et Cell qui va me demander le plus de travail.
Le roman Buu va prolonger sa pause en conséquence, afin de garantir sereinement le retour du roman principal.
Voilà pour vous donner des infos, je vous rappelle que les coups de main sont autorisés si vous avez envie d'aider, vous pouvez me contacter sur Discord !

Merci et navré pour tout ce silence, j'aurais aimé pouvoir vous dire que la femme et les enfants réclament toute mon attention, mais, n'ayant ni l'une ni les autres... :')
Merci pour votre compréhension !



Je suis heureux d'apprendre que vous êtes sur le point d'avoir terminé !
Alors, est-ce que cela va encore se produire d’ici la fin de l’été ?
Sinon, ce n'est pas grave, juste par curiosité.
Le tournoi secondaire va-t-il continuer ou est-ce pour un prochain chapitre ?
Fanfic dbm, chapter 165
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 31 Agosto 2024
Okay Multiverse, I admit I was completely shocked by this.

Genuinely did not expect that.

— ---

Just for anyone who complains about power levels/scaling. Please keep in mind that Salagir has re-written movie villains to have power levels different than their movie counterparts.

So don't rage out lol.

— ---

This will be interesting.
DB Multiverse page 2385
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 28 Agosto 2024
I thought Cell would last a bit longer but he's actually erased?!

It's pretty insane.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 17
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 25 Agosto 2024
I really am intrigued it seems like we will finally get something from XXI, other than just one-hit kills.

I wonder if this will be multiple chapters like the Goku vs. Vegeta fight but honestly I'm just hoping it's not another one-hit kill. Anything but that
DB Multiverse page 2383
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 18 Agosto 2024
Last panel is awesome.

Happy to get back to the main story. I have a feeling Vegetto in the next page is going to be quite pissed that it took Yamcha of all people to save him.

Also before anyone says "Plot Hole- Namekian Healing isn't enough"

1. It's Gast so he's likely much better at it.
2. Salagar said in the comment that if a Namekian had healed him that would have healed half of his wounds. It's not as though the healing would have done NOTHING. It just can't fully restore him.
3. As Gast said Vegetto isn't at full power, he's just not going to bleed out.
DB Multiverse page 2380
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 18 Agosto 2024
Such a picture of a Golden Dragon. Final Dragon Flash is such a great attack don't care what anyone says. 1 Risposta/e
DBMultiverse Colors page 216
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 17 Agosto 2024
I do have to wonder what XXI's universe looks like by now after what? 75 Million years....I'k'L said he devoured it so is it just darkness? Are there still some stars?

I really hope that XXI is actually going to show us something more than just a one hit K.O. again.

It was highly disappointing with Universe 4 Buu and it will be horrible if it happens here.

I get that XXI "Never takes risks" but can't he just encounter something unexpected?

I mean Zen Buu was impressed with his power so clearly he has more than just magic. 1 Risposta/e
DB Multiverse page 2379
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 16 Agosto 2024
I'm not really sure what to think of this.

On the one hand it solves every problem with the timeline. So that's good at least. I do find it kind of funny that Vegeta won easily. It's a bit of dark humor lol

If you really hate it then you can just say Old Kai is mistaken (Although if he's mistaken then this is kind of pointless since he's saying that "this won't work" it's likely because that's what would actually happen).

Still though I guess time will tell.

I really can't wait for the next chapter (Since they said the main story is after this again.
DB Multiverse page 2378
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 16 Agosto 2024
Oh man so conflicted.....I really don't want to see our heroes erased from existence but....we know how this is going to end. 1 Risposta/e
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 14
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto 12 Agosto 2024
ZenBuu ha detto:
There is only one page left. We should get a news about chapter 101 in the next week.


Oh wow...still a good special over all. Thanks for the info!
DB Multiverse page 2377
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