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Paradise Lost 23 Martxoa
These people are dumb. Bojack killed them the first time around the second he got his transformation. Bojack will kill them again after getting a second dosage. 1 Replie(s)
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Michelrpg was saying:
Im surprised Bojack in all his intelligent scheming doesnt kill Zangya for her response there. Maybe he grew a braincell between specials and doubled his intellect.

Given how the Frost Demons are on his ass, I wouldn't be surprised if he's waiting to waste her ass during an oncoming fight with them, only for Zangya to be saved through outside context.
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Paradise Lost 11 Martxoa
This is nice. Always nice to see two evil factions duking it out. Wonder how Cold and his father will deal with Bojack given that he was powerful enough to kill Polar? Would be nice to see a father-son duo or will the Kais and Supreme Kais intervene before it gets to that point.
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I wish we've gotten a Goku vs kakarot fight 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 25 Otsaila
Looks like evil Vegeta realize they fucked up. Also is that Raditz? 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 22 Urtarrila
Bombero was saying:
عمار was saying: Who is the best Vegeta?

Well, let's see:

U13 Vegeta:
— Emperor of his Universe
— Strongest in his Universe
— Unlocked SSJ first
— Killed Freeza
— Kakarotto is the one chasing him
— Didn't get immortality but got the b#tches xD

U18 Vegeta:
— Prince of no one
— Ran away from some weak earthlings after getting beat up by them
— Was not the first one to unlock SSJ
— Cried like a little b#tch against Freeza
— Got killed by Freeza
— He's the one chasing Goku
— No immortality & no b#tches
— Got his arms broken by a female cyborg
— Got his back broken by some lizard creature
— Reduced himself to let some wizard give him a power up
— Blow himself up after failing to beat a fat gum looking creature (and his suicide did ZERO damage)
— A Jobless freeloding of his wife
— In a submissive relationship with a weak woman that can't even fight

Yeah, U13 Vegeta clears! xD

What’s even worse is that according to Old Kai’s vision/dream, Raditz by himself isn’t even strong enough to beat U13’s Vegeta. What was even the point of Raditz getting a power up if he’s still weaker than U13 Vegeta.

Isn't that due to Old Kai having little to no faith in Raditz? Old Kai later said that he could have beaten South Supreme Kai if he didn't nerf him of not harming innocents. And given that South Supreme Kai is at least around SSJ-3 level, Raditz would have won against Vegeta. 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 16 Urtarrila
PMC was saying:
So does this mean that XXI exists & is active (or a potential threat) in every universe containing the Z sword? That seems like a lot honestly.

Nah, its confirm that XXI was dealt with in every universe. Universe 5 being the one where he wins and is a danger to the multiverse.
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Paradise Lost 12 Urtarrila
RIP Kaioshin, in every universe but this one, you succeeded.
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Paradise Lost 12 Urtarrila
Artiel was saying:
Justanotherturtle was saying: Paradise Lost was saying: Considering in every universe but in universe 5 the Kaioshins win, I assume they were more than ready to take on XXI in traditional combat. How the Kaioshin loses to XXI in Universe 5 is yet to be seen.
That just raises questions. Why would a Kaioshin succeed when even Gast failed? There is no way that even the strongest Kaioshin could make Gast break a sweat, let alone beat him. There must be some trick that the Kaioshins pull that allows them to beat XXI, some magic or something that even Gast can't do. This chapter has just started, so I don't expect it to be explained immediately, but probably before the chapter ends.
Because the fight we're seeing now is so long ago that the Grand Supreme Kai is thin and youthful. When we see him canonically, five million years ago, he's already round and middle aged, assuming this is the same Grand Supreme Kai.

I don't think this is the Grand Supreme Kai that we know. The Kai that is fighting XXI is a woman, whereas the Grand Supreme Kai is male. Not to mention that Grand Supreme Kai has no recollection nor is he aware of the dangers that XXI possess to the entire multiverse. Something that an Kai of old should know of. This just raises the question on how XXI could be forgotten to time for the Kais.
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Paradise Lost 11 Urtarrila
Justanotherturtle was saying:
I don't see the Kaioshin having a chance with traditional combat, Z sword or not, so I wonder what the twist will be?

Considering in every universe but in universe 5 the Kaioshins win, I assume they were more than ready to take on XXI in traditional combat. How the Kaioshin loses to XXI in Universe 5 is yet to be seen. 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 9 Urtarrila
Oh shit, Old Kai from Universe 5 locked the fucked in on this threat. Shame it was all for naught. Still, good to see the Gods take universal threats seriously. Still I wonder what the divergence was between Universe 5 and all the others. 1 Replie(s)
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SuperSaiyan4Vegetto was saying:
As someone pointed out, in the novel emperor Vegeta's Super Saiyan 3 is only as strong as Vegeta's Super Saiyan 2. This is also considering that Emperor VEGETA's Super Saiyan 2 is close in power to the Cell Junior who is ''Stronger than the average Super Saiyan 2 according to Vegeta''.

It's in chapter 148. The entire quote is this

"Vegeta donned a threatening frown and transformed into Super Saiyan 2, crackles of blue lightning zipping around his body, swirling and kicking dust into the air. The brow-less Saiyan’s chuckle cut off as his ascended counterpart approached him with a determined look, until he was mere inches in front of his face, glaring with defiance. As a Super Saiyan 3, the Saiyan emperor was utterly shocked by what he sensed — Vegeta’s energy as a mere level 2 was possibly a match for his own. There was no comparison between this and the power he’d put on display in the fight with Kakarotto."

https://w...148.html#h_read

Which I agree that our Vegeta should be way more powerful than the evil vegeta. Our Vegeta had Goku to force him into new heights whereas Vegeta of universe 13 became an emperor who occasionally trains and fights 2 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 7 Urtarrila
Oh damn, this shit is way more terrifying than Galactus. 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 30 Abendua
Gunbuster was saying:
Paradise Lost was saying: If these androids are like androids 17 and 18. Why are they energy absorption models? Did Gero just not make perpetual energy models like 17 & 18?

Because Gero likely believed the infinite energy models were uncontrollable and since he had already proven himself correct with his own cyborgification, he probably just decided it was the best option.

What's super dumb is that he bothered with humans anymore when he clearly had 19 as a working design so why didn't he just make an army of Android 19s and ignore the risk of human based androids?

I honestly thought they were like android 19. But it's weird that made these bio-cyborgs with all the upgrades, whereas he just uses a wholly mechanical body and put his brain inside.
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Paradise Lost 29 Abendua
If these androids are like androids 17 and 18. Why are they energy absorption models? Did Gero just not make perpetual energy models like 17 & 18? 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 22 Abendua
Nice to see a Happy ending. I hope Gast stays on Earth to help it rebuild and deal with Buu so Earth can keep its happy ending. 3 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 21 Abendua
MajinPower was saying:
That’s when Kulilin goes back thinking Gast won. Cell regenerates, kills Kulilin and Gohan and Gast kills him.

I would have mix feelings if Cell did comeback after this. There's no reason for him to comeback given that Gast seems to have completely and utterly vaporized him. Just have Gast deal with Gero and have a somewhat happy ending until Buu arrives.
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Paradise Lost 18 Abendua
Your nickel was saying:
MUI was saying: In DBZ manga Cell survived his self destruction not because of his nucleas surviving the blast, but because one single cell survived and that was enough to revive himself.
No, the "single cell" thing was in the anime's English dub.

I still think every single cell being a separate nucleus that cell can regenerate from was the right call. It fixes a plot hole and makes Cell nigh unkillable.
Fanfic dbm, chapter 173
Paradise Lost 16 Azaroa
The Mighty Hyena was saying:
while Vegetto simply lacks challenge.

I thought Vegito's problem is that he thinks he's the pinnacle of power and doesn't improve.
Fanfic dbm, chapter 172
Paradise Lost 2 Azaroa
Man, how I wish U18 Krillin and android 18 had come and join the tournament. For krillin to see this version of himself, and for 18 to see the evil version of her.
DBMultiverse Colors page 440
Paradise Lost 19 Urtarrila 2025
I'm assuming Nappa is the one who's arguing to bring back Gohan, Vegeta is probably just sitting silently weighing his options.
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Paradise Lost 26 Abendua 2024
DrewSaga was saying:
I thought for a moment that Gero was gonna start cursing in German.

Also, doesn't Gero think he is being too hasty by getting Cell out right off the bat? That seems like a dangerous gamble, kind of like #17 and #18. Gast beat 2 Androids but if he has a few dozen then he is far from out. But at least he is aware of the risk Gast poses against him.

I'm going to assume the androids Gast beat were the more modern ones in Gero's arsenal. Which, if true, would make Gero unleashing Cell more reasonable, since the other android outright stated that Gast beat them with ease.
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Paradise Lost 4 Abendua 2024
Krillin doesn't even hesitate to help. He's a total ride or die friend. No wonder Goku always looked up to him and was pissed when he died a second time.
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Paradise Lost 1 Abendua 2024
Our boy Krillin is being the Hero he was always meant to be. Shame it came at the cost of every friend and Earth's peace.
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Paradise Lost 3 Ekaina 2024
DrewSaga was saying:

I do not recall Gohan achieving SSJ2 in that novel as oppose to him just being angry but if he did, boy is that dumb as bricks. Dumber actually. Goku was exhausted and beat Frieza with SSJ which means that SSJ2 Gohan would easily annihilate the Cyborgs, infinite stamina can't save them from overwhelming force like that (it sure didn't save the Cell Jrs who were much stronger, still got one-shotted). Plus it does make U12 Trunks look bad in a way. Like sure, he beat the Cyborgs in U12 with only SSJ instead of losing with SSJ2, but the fact is he couldn't get SSJ2 but Gohan did?

Future Gohan does achieve super saiyan 2, I'll post the passage and let others decide.

"No, Satan hadn't realised at the moment what had followed the irrevocable... His eyes recorded the scene the same way a camera without user would do the same... But what a scene!

An insane growl... Yet it wasn't the growl of the father to whom his child's life had been stolen... No!

That was the growl of the young man who lacked an arm!

Right after it, a blast, whose power was as sudden as it was fierce, blew the ex-champion's weight away, no matter how heavy he was.

When he got back on his feet to look up, he could see an intense golden light dancing around the fighter whose fury was now distorting his face. He kept yelling as lightning tore through the sky that suddenly was invaded by oppressive and incredibly dark clouds. The crackling of numerous electric will-o-the-wisps that were travelling all around his body was drowned out by the rumble of an apocalyptic thunderstorm as a strange wind threw dust and rubble of all size in every directions.

From the huge block of concrete behind which he was hiding, Satan saw with alarm the two machines were bracing themselves so that they could resist the impressive storm picked up by the incredible fit of rage of the young man in the orange suit.

Who was he? How could he have such power? To generate energy shot was something, but controlling the elements, commanding storms? Could a machine do such miracle?!

Some religions give this ability to their gods... But he obviously wasn't one. Not at all... Otherwise he'd have certainly been able to save his darling... He had prayed so hard, no divinity could have refused him this... Besides, what happened next proved that he was a being of flesh and bones.

For a moment that seemed to go on forever, the unknown boy screamed his rage together with thunders and lightnings.

Then he finally lowered his head. There was something completely frightening in his eyes when he took them back to the twins. The usual whistling of the strange golden aura that was surrounding him had to compete with the dull sound of huge drops that started to hammer on the devastated town.

The light of a formidable lightning blinded Satan for a second. When he could see again, he noticed that the three fighter had already hurled themselves again one another.

The one armed fighter's hits seemed to have renewed vigour. His attacks seemed to have an incredible rise of power, but, whenever he threw one of his opponent bite the dust that was turning into mud under the heavy rain that was now raging, the other one was immediately on him... Never giving him any respite!

But hope didn't last... The young fighter who already was exhausted due to a first tough fight seemed to be tiring really fast while the two other didn't seem to weaken in the least, in spite of the insanely strong blows they had taken. These two damned things never showed the mere hint of breathlessness or of tiredness... No, they could hit for hours without getting tired, without wincing, without failing... As soulless machines." 3 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 1 Maiatza 2024
Vegeta, you fool. You could have lived another day and train Gohan and beaten the android menace.
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Paradise Lost 28 Apirila 2024
Future Vegeta should have stayed down and lived to train Future Gohan about fighting. Instead, he gets to be killed and his death being pointless. 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 26 Apirila 2024
Vegeta stay down. You could teach Future Gohan the ways of fighting like a proper Saiyan and save the world from the androids.
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Paradise Lost 25 Apirila 2024
Matrixkid was saying:
I could be wrong, but wasn't the first chapter or so of Twin Pain at the end of the story? Then afterwards it goes to the beginning. So the rest of the chapter could maybe tell us how this all unfolds

The first chapter is Trunks visiting a battle site between the androids and the z-fighters before heading to the past (alternate timeline).
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Paradise Lost 21 Martxoa 2024
beeruz was saying:
Rodriog was saying: see guys? That's why you shouldn't simp
I think a lot of people forget that yamcha is married to bulma who is actually present,at least in the novel.He's actually just trying to help them as he knows their situation.

But how many times do the androids need to rebuff him for Yamcha to understand they don't want to be saved? They literally told him they killed all the humans in their universe, and that includes his friends and himself.
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Paradise Lost 31 Urtarrila 2024
Welp, time for the Cold and Snower team up. 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 20 Urtarrila 2024
Just think, in another universe, Polar killed Bojack quickly and efficiently. I wonder how that universe is doing. 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 2 Azaroa 2023
I hope Gine grabs another pod and quick.
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Paradise Lost 30 Urria 2023
I really wish Gine had live. Would be nice how she interacted with Earthlings.
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Paradise Lost 11 Iraila 2023
Good to see Tarble get some love. I would have love to see him in Dragon Ball Multiverse as one of the surviving saiyans in either universe 18 or 13.
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Paradise Lost 7 Iraila 2023
Glad to see this get more pages per week. Though now I'm interested in how different Cooler is.
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Paradise Lost 23 Abuztua 2023
I really wish there was a universe where Goku hit his head and Grandpa Gohan survive. 2 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 23 Abuztua 2023
DrewSaga was saying:
Come on Yamcha, it was all fun and games after all. Besides, it wouldn't have mattered in Yamcha's case, he lost to that smelly ogre.

Hector Fenwick was saying: Why didn't they just give Nam a capsule to take water with him as in the series?

Roshi isn't Gohan though, I guess Roshi would rather take the money and give Nam the capsule while Gohan doesn't have a use in mind for the money.

Too bad that Roshi spent all of that money on feeding Goku.

To be fair with Roshi, Nam was leaving the minute he lost his match with Goku, Roshi had to stop him from leaving him and tell him about the free water in the city and giving him the capsule.
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Paradise Lost 20 Abuztua 2023
I really wished more time was spent on building up Shen and Master Roshi's friendship before the former's fall from grace.
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Paradise Lost 30 Uztaila 2023
You can win this Krillin
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Paradise Lost 20 Uztaila 2023
I'm surprised to see Fasha and Tora are shocked that Frieza sent men after them.
Bardock Tales Kai page 51
Paradise Lost 20 Uztaila 2023
Good to know that the Saiyan race isn't completely extinct. 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 19 Uztaila 2023
Looks like Roshi did lose. Now Gohan has to carry the entire tournament by himself.
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Paradise Lost 17 Uztaila 2023
Are Saiyans this dumb? It should be obvious by this why they're attacking them. 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 13 Uztaila 2023
You know what, I'm liking this. Wish more people would come and comment on this.
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Paradise Lost 12 Uztaila 2023
And her master plan is coming into fruition.
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Paradise Lost 10 Uztaila 2023
Ouroboros was saying:
Paradise Lost was saying: Ammar was saying: Ouroboros was saying: The real joke with her how she ever got to the last eight.
You are telling me al her openents where either gentleman, Attracted to her (akka not gay and/or a species attracted to human beauty standards), phyical weaker then her and her tricks sucesful even when watched in the same brecked

Is she Mister Satans Aunt or somthing
She is fighter, and not a weak one too:
She does have a power level of 80. So, she's definitely one of earth's strongest fighters around this time.

Didn't Roshi have a power level of 129 at the start of the sayian saga? So i call a no

139. Roshi has a power level of 139. Though that was in his old man form. When he was fighting seriously, you know when his body had muscles when fighting Tien, his power level was 180. Nobody knows what his max form power level is other than it destroys the moon.

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Paradise Lost 10 Uztaila 2023
Ammar was saying:
Ouroboros was saying: The real joke with her how she ever got to the last eight.
You are telling me al her openents where either gentleman, Attracted to her (akka not gay and/or a species attracted to human beauty standards), phyical weaker then her and her tricks sucesful even when watched in the same brecked

Is she Mister Satans Aunt or somthing
She is fighter, and not a weak one too:

She does have a power level of 80. So, she's definitely one of earth's strongest fighters around this time. 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 9 Uztaila 2023
Roshi is going to win. 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 7 Uztaila 2023
Looks like who will win is a toss-up now that the predictions are wrong. 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 5 Uztaila 2023
I like this chapter and Good on Chichi trying to instill responsibility onto Goku. W 1 Replie(s)
Fanfic dbm, chapter 164
Paradise Lost 5 Uztaila 2023
Look at Krillin go
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Paradise Lost 30 Ekaina 2023
I wish it was Roshi and Crane Hermit who did this. To show Master Mutaito that his temple and training was good enough.
Namekseijin Densetsu page 341
Paradise Lost 30 Ekaina 2023
So it begins. I hope Krillin wins. And nice to see Bulma is the same in every universe. I wonder how she was in universe 13 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 28 Ekaina 2023
Nice to see Roshi and Gohan interact for once. Also nice to see the fights.
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Paradise Lost 25 Ekaina 2023
Calling it now, Roshi will see that Gohan is under a disguise this tournament 2 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 23 Ekaina 2023
Roshi vs Gohan and Yamcha vs Krillin? 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 21 Ekaina 2023
At least Krillin gets training done and we get to see Arale as a cameo. Which actually is pretty sad for universe 3 and 13 of this world.
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Paradise Lost 15 Ekaina 2023
DarkClaw was saying:
I know that the Gokhan thing was just a joke, but what's the in-universe reason for excluding Gokhan's universe from the tournament? Wouldn't he be much more powerful than Vegetto? And that universe would be as different as 16 and 18 are from each other.

Their exclusion probably has to do with them being a mix of universe 16 and 18. Wish we gotten a future where Future Gohan defeated the androids,
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Paradise Lost 12 Ekaina 2023
I hope they incorporate GT and Super this time around 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 9 Ekaina 2023
Can't blame the cop for making that choice.
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Paradise Lost 7 Ekaina 2023
You guys need to tone it down with Roshi, pretty sure he's not a misogynist. 5 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 4 Ekaina 2023
So this is universe 18 but none of the fighting Z-warriors die since Buu will likely try and absorb Gokhan like he did with Vegito and since Gohan is stronger than Super Buu once he has no one absorb, it's the end. 1 Replie(s)
DBMultiverse Colors page 3
Paradise Lost 31 Maiatza 2023
Now this is sad, all those cameo characters died in universe 13 2 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 29 Maiatza 2023
Good to see Frieza is at least planning ahead for the short-term.
Bardock Tales Kai page 36
Paradise Lost 28 Maiatza 2023
I like how this establish Krillin and Master Roshi's relationship, which would end in tragedy in Universe 13
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Paradise Lost 27 Maiatza 2023
Sayazur was saying:
Kongming5 was saying: Dodoria being the logistical one and not the brute for once
Yes, I've deliberately made him more perceptive than in the original work for two reasons:

— There are enough overpowered brutes in Frieza's army, he has to stand out and we didn't see enough of him during the Namek arc to deduce his intelligence.

— He's less of a pain than Zarbon to draw, so I favor him for exposure.

Good enough reasoning. I always thought Dodoria was co-consigliere along with Zarbon, you know, whose advice and voice of dissent are taken seriously by Frieza and not be killed on the spot for daring to question him during his judgments. Something I like about pre-super.
Bardock Tales Kai page 35
Paradise Lost 27 Maiatza 2023
Superman55aa was saying:
I forgot how unimpressive master roshi* was in the beginning of db.

For that matter. I think all the shounen I seen started that way in one way or another.

Master Roshi was always impressive. His Max Form was impressive and powerful until the Tien Arc.

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Paradise Lost 24 Maiatza 2023
Classic Dragonball, just like I remember
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Paradise Lost 21 Maiatza 2023
BangBang was saying:
This is kinda creepy, when you think about it.

Man, Goku really was innocent when compared to everyone else. 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 17 Maiatza 2023
Still think Kakarot should have lost to Son Gohan 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 6 Maiatza 2023
Jesus, this is such a slaughter. No wonder the Crane Hermit and Master Roshi were the only survivors.
Namekseijin Densetsu page 318
Paradise Lost 6 Maiatza 2023
Another Vegeta L
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Paradise Lost 5 Maiatza 2023
Common Goku W and Vegeta in his natural habitat.
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Paradise Lost 3 Maiatza 2023
You know, I like the part where Goten almost died, I think that was missing in the web manga.
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Paradise Lost 3 Maiatza 2023
Vegeta and his fans are in shambles after this defeat. 2 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 14 Apirila 2023
Leveler was saying:
Though personally I think there should have been a few more people agreeing with Vegetto here just to even things out a bit better.

Felt like Universe 19 were the ones supporting Vegetto in this argument. 1 Replie(s)
Fanfic dbm, chapter 162
Paradise Lost 14 Apirila 2023
God, if only Gohan and Piccolo from universe 16 were alive to see this. Their reactions to Vegeta of Universe 18 were the best.
Fanfic dbm, chapter 162
Paradise Lost 25 Martxoa 2023
“Just because you’re angry and you feel justified, you think it's okay to commit patricide? I can’t believe that you would dare to even think about executing your own daughter!”

Pretty sure that's meant to say Filicide, the killing of one's own child. 1 Replie(s)
Fanfic dbm, chapter 161
Paradise Lost 24 Martxoa 2023
Asturios was saying:
I remember Goku saying back in Page 1150 ssj3 Gotenks was stronger than him and Vegeta. But these images depict a level of power beyong ssj3 Gotenks. I don't know what it is, I can't point it out.

Gotenks got a major power boost from Zen Buu at that point. If it was regular Gotenks before that, I would assume Goku and Vegeta surpassed them.
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Paradise Lost 23 Martxoa 2023
Teleported_Bread was saying:
SeanPaul2389 was saying: Hopefully after this we get a Roshi subplot since that's how Piccolo's dealt with before the events of Dragon Ball.
I wonder if the next chapter will focus on Piccolo like how this one focused on the Nameless Namekian's rise to Earthly godhood and the chapter before focused on Guru's story until he becomes the leader of Namek.

Would be pretty great to be honest. I also hope we get a chapter of Master Mutaito and his Martial Arts school.
Namekseijin Densetsu page 298
Paradise Lost 6 Martxoa 2023
This battle better last two or more chapters. After all the hype, it deserves that much.
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Paradise Lost 22 Otsaila 2023
Vegito is going to be so jealous that Goku and Vegeta can fight every day, all day long. I really want to his reaction to this fight.
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Paradise Lost 13 Otsaila 2023
PMC was saying:
This Trunks also fought Broly as part of the U16 & U18 crew. So he will be sure to recognize the ki from U20. It's like he relives a nightmare with every subsequent universe that shows up. The Androids set him off, then Bojack. Cell just about gave him a hernia. And now Broly.

After his tournament loss to U18 Vegeta, and of course witnessing the events of the Majin rebellion via Zen Buu, he will know that he has a LOT of ground to cover for when he returns to his universe. Being a half Saiyan, you'd think he would also have huge potential. Bulma should whip him up another HTC. No way these inter-universal doors stay closed.

Is Earth even in danger in his timeline? Every big bad is taken care of and the rest of the universe doesn't even know Earth exists. 2 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 1 Otsaila 2023
Finally. the reunion we've been looking for. Really wish Pan and Videl also meet Trunks. And good to see Vegito being proud of Trunks in keeping up with his training.
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Paradise Lost 28 Urtarrila 2023
DBZFan92 was saying:
Super Gojita 3 was saying: Hector Fenwick was saying: Is 17 dumb? Didn't the organizers explain to him that people here are not from his universe?

Do DBM's androids have their mental capacity deteriorate as well as their power? Cause they're acting really dumb.

No, they just really hate humans. Dr.Gero programmed them well.
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Paradise Lost 25 Urtarrila 2023
Annihilation was saying:
Ammar was saying: He's dead. Android 18 killed him in the lab.

That's a really weird explanation. After Trunks failed to return, she just randomly went back to the lab and discovered the secret basement?

Bulma in that timeline got extremely desperate that she went into Dr. Gero's lab as a last-ditch effort to stop the androids. Once she entered the lab, it triggered a silent alarm that alerted the androids to Bulma. There, the androids and Bulma saw cell in its larval form. It tried to attack 18 with its stinger and 18 killed it.
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Paradise Lost 25 Urtarrila 2023
16 with the save. Glad to see him helping out his bro in his hour of need.
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Paradise Lost 24 Urtarrila 2023
Local_McWarlord was saying:
Since this Trunks is fully grown, he'd probably get off to a better start with Prince Vegeta than he did meeting U18 Vegeta needing help with the androids.

"I'm actually your son. In my world, you were killed before you could achieve the form of Super Saiyan."
"By who?"
"By those androids over there. So was Kakarotto. I'm the last of the Saiyan in my world."
"Unbelievable..."
"Yes, but Father, I want you to know... I absolutely, 100% annihilated them both. If we weren't waiting for this contest to start, I'd vaporize them here and now. If I fight them in this tournament, I'll destroy them without hesitation. If they survive this tournament, I will make sure to tear them to pieces before we return home."
"..."
"Are you alright, father?"
"I'm fine. It's just raining in this stupid stadium."

Nah, Vegeta of universe 13 is too much of an asshole to care. Even our Vegeta cared about his race getting killed off by Frieza when he learned the truth, whereas Vegeta of universe 13 applauded Rachi for killing them off. 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 23 Urtarrila 2023
If only future Bulma went to the tournament. I think it would have been a such an experience for her. 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 22 Urtarrila 2023
Bubbles was saying:
Well, all of us was wrong (again).

I didn't expect Kakarotto would be shocked by Trunks' Ultra Super Saiyan form.

I still believe that Kakarotto only knows the basic super saiyan form and not the Ascended or Ultra super saiyan form, and much less the Super Saiyan Full Power. Which is why I think him being stronger than Goten or Trunks from U!18 is a farce. Since Trunks and Goten were at least trains by their fathers up until their teenage years.
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Paradise Lost 20 Urtarrila 2023
Majunia was saying:
RockyJoe was saying: How the hell did Kakarott ever learn to sense energy if he didn't train under Karin or Kami?

He trained with Roshi (he still misses Krillin), it wouldnt be weird if he trained under Karin at some point.

Kakarot never received any training on earth whatsoever. Kakarot killed Roshi in their first meeting. And Gohan tried to teach him self-control but failed. 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 20 Urtarrila 2023
Moe2231 was saying:
I’m assuming their sensing Gast or Zen Buu

I think they sense Vegito 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 19 Urtarrila 2023
Majunia was saying:
Nail was saying: If I remember correctly,Future Android are just about to have same strength as pre time machine Trunk in 1-1 and Post cell game Trunk kill them easily ,basicly around ssj1 powerlevel or little weaker consider erosion

Even ssj Kakarot may be able to 1-2 them at this point let alone ssj2 vegeta

Always found it funny how GT and Super made the same mistake (although Super made it a lot worse) by having the androids getting even more powerful with time, when the manga made it pretty clear they were weak as sh!t in the future.

Anyway, best special in years.

I don't think the androids were weak, I just think they were screwing with Future Trunks for shits and giggles. In the manga version of the History of Trunks, Android 17 pretty much says it outright to Future Gohan during their last battle.
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Paradise Lost 18 Urtarrila 2023
Don't care what people think, I'm loving this chapter for the characters' interactions with one another. 1 Replie(s)
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Paradise Lost 16 Urtarrila 2023
The plot thickens.
Bardock Tales Kai page 21
Paradise Lost 12 Urtarrila 2023
Let's wait until passing judgement.
Bardock Tales Kai page 20
Paradise Lost 5 Urtarrila 2023
The plot thickens.
Bardock Tales Kai page 18
Paradise Lost 31 Abendua 2022
Humanity Fuck Yeah.
Namekseijin Densetsu page 264
Paradise Lost 1 Abendua 2022
The fight of the century.
Namekseijin Densetsu page 251
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