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Autschmenno comentó:
Ich wette uub rettet die Situation, er kommt nach 30 Jahren struggel aus der anderen Dimension und ist OP. Xp
Wäre etwas lame. Ich fände es besser, wenn XXI triumphiert OBWOHL alle Bescheid wissen. Das wäre ein Desaster für die Guten.
Und es wäre ein verdammt guter Grund für Vegetto's Ausraster. Die Inkomptetenz und Ignoranz der Anderen gefärdet alle Universen, einschließlich U16. Das dürfte das Fass zum überlaufen bringen.
EVA-03 comentó:
Vertraue NIEMALS leichtfertig jemanden, der "Du kannst mir vertrauen..." sagt
Komm schon.. können diese sympathischen Augen lügen?
I'm calling it now: Everyone knows about XXI but they still gonna f*ck it up
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THE PROBLEM SOLVER comentó:
For people asking "What was Goku supposed to say?"
He wants goku to go above and beyond from the "start" telling him that he already has next to no chance, because knowing Goku he will probably want to Test out his opponent
Goku further presses his fear by saying "you never know, there might still be a chance", instead of saying "i understand, will go all out from start"
Hence the idiot part from kai
(But in my opinion Goku is hiding a trump card)
He wants goku to go above and beyond from the "start" telling him that he already has next to no chance, because knowing Goku he will probably want to Test out his opponent
Goku further presses his fear by saying "you never know, there might still be a chance", instead of saying "i understand, will go all out from start"
Hence the idiot part from kai
(But in my opinion Goku is hiding a trump card)
The old Kai forgot that he's dealing with literal saiyans. They love fighting and the more Goku knows about how terrible XXI is, the more he gets hyped. It's like King Kai warning Goku about Frieza or future Trunks warning Vegeta about the androids.
At least, Goku knows everything, but XXI doesn't know that Goku knows. The old Kai basically played an UNO-Reverse Card on XXI.
XXI won his battles by using the element of surpise, but know Goku knows more about him than us readers.
I'm just wondering what Gast is going to do. He knows XXI tried to attack him after forfeiting and now he is just "keeping an eye?" Come on...
Looks like it's up to Vegetto.
Mr. Gohan94 comentó:
Was war sein Plan bei Goku?
Bislang hat XXI alle seine Kämpfe durch Schummeln gewonnen und dadurch, dass er seine Gegner überrascht hat. Das kann er jetzt nicht mehr. Son Goku weiß Bescheid.
Son Goku weiß jetzt wahrscheinlich mehr über XXI als wir Leser, aber XXI weiß nicht, dass Song Goku über IHN Bescheid weiß. Im Grunde hat der alte Kaioshinn den Spieß umgedreht. Jetzt ist Son Goku geil auf den Kampf: Je stärker und furchterregneder sein Gegner, umso mehr freut er sich.
Ich wundere mich eher über Gast. Er hat XXI's wahres Gesicht gesehen und weiß, dass er ihn nach seiner Aufgabe noch angreifen wollte. "Ich werde eine Auge auf ihn haben" heißt auf gut deutsch "Ich gucke zu und mache nichts, obwohl ich es besser weiß".
Wahrscheinlich ist Vegetto der nächste, der informiert wird. Und dann wird's spannend.
Hector Fenwick comentó:
Vegetto will get mad because everyone's an idiot and let XXL participate?
Probably not. Once the old Kaioshin makes contact with Vegetto, he'll gladly take the chance to confront XXI. That's why he suddenly left to go after XXI.
It's also worth noticing that XXI uses the South Kaioshinn to go after U10.
XXI and the old Kaioshinn are the puppet masters now playing chess in the background. XXI seems to be the smarter player though because he doesn't play openly. He gives hints like "you should check out another apartment, something strange is going on". The old kaioshinn however just dumps everyone because no one is really listening to him.
Let's also not forget that this chapter is calles "recruitment". Who is now hiring who? Reminds me a bit of Babidis preperations for his attack, but this time, theree are two sides preparing for battle.
Saligir confirmed in the last Flashback chapter, that XXI is a refernece to the tarot, in which the 21st card is "the world".
This page confirms, that XXI literally became "the world" in his own universe, whoch confrims my theory about XXI.
It is literally a biblic storytelling, where Lucifer rebelled against God and thus was banned from heaven. Lucifer wanted to become the new "God", the "creator" itself and replace him. The same thing with Zamasu in DBS: A fallen Angel who betrayed his God and seeked to replace the universe itself.
So XXI is literally the devil.
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This page confirms, that XXI literally became "the world" in his own universe, whoch confrims my theory about XXI.
It is literally a biblic storytelling, where Lucifer rebelled against God and thus was banned from heaven. Lucifer wanted to become the new "God", the "creator" itself and replace him. The same thing with Zamasu in DBS: A fallen Angel who betrayed his God and seeked to replace the universe itself.
So XXI is literally the devil.
ZGrssd comentó:
I wonder if this Vegeta will bother to warn this Nappa?
I think he will. He actually warned him in the real storyline and him don't minding about Nappa is an abrigded joke.
It woud be a waste of a good fight to kill Nappa instantly, but whos knows what the author is up to.
One of my favourite pages by far. Vegeta looks so badass in the 2nd and 5th panel!
Bojack killed Pan and Perfect Cell tries to kill each of his opponents. There never was a rule that prohobits killing. 1 Respuesta(s)
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DB Tyrant comentó:
Lol I guess the no killing rule is out the window
Bojack killed Pan and Perfect Cell tries to kill each of his opponents. There never was a rule that prohobits killing. 1 Respuesta(s)
RetroOVER9000 comentó:
Is it bad that I kind of just want Yamcha to die here? I mean, it's Yamcha. C'mon now.
Nah, Yamcha and Chiazo will die quickly. Krilin and Tien will put up a good fight and if Nasu switches sides, they may kill Radditz and Nappa. But Vegeta will finish them all. 1 Respuesta(s)
I like hiw the comments seection turned into a discussion about Nappa's body ^^
Majin Boo, Janemba or Yajirobe are persons that I would call fat, but Nappa?
He isn't the brightest person ok, but he is not fat. He is more like that bully that you see in american high school movies or that dumb american football player.
But I like how the situation has been solved for the earthlings not to die instantly. With Vegeta out of the battle, they actually have a decent chance. Radditz is basically the Yamcha of the saiyans and if Krilin and Chaozu team up, they might do some damage against the meatball.
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Majin Boo, Janemba or Yajirobe are persons that I would call fat, but Nappa?
He isn't the brightest person ok, but he is not fat. He is more like that bully that you see in american high school movies or that dumb american football player.
But I like how the situation has been solved for the earthlings not to die instantly. With Vegeta out of the battle, they actually have a decent chance. Radditz is basically the Yamcha of the saiyans and if Krilin and Chaozu team up, they might do some damage against the meatball.
Wenn Vegeta sich raushält, dürften die Erdlinge immerhin eine Chance haben.
Ich rate mal, dass Nasu sich früher oder später gegen die Saiyajins wenden und Vegeta von der Erde vertreiben wird.
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Ich rate mal, dass Nasu sich früher oder später gegen die Saiyajins wenden und Vegeta von der Erde vertreiben wird.
The translation seems to be unlucky here. I'm not an english native and if I had not checked the german page, I would be confused.
In german, Krilin states that they will take care of the muscleman. I think it would be out of character for krilin to insult Nappa like this in such a situation.
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In german, Krilin states that they will take care of the muscleman. I think it would be out of character for krilin to insult Nappa like this in such a situation.
When perfect Cell used that technique on Gohan, everybody assumed Gohan would be dead. But that push seemed more like a warning. Also, Nasu sweating is a clear hint that Krilin got to him, although he doesn't know him.
Probably Nasu's subconcious remembers something, that he can't figure out yet.
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Probably Nasu's subconcious remembers something, that he can't figure out yet.
People forget that Goku training with King Kai was an extraordinary exception. He was introduced to Enma Daio as the hero of earth, by the earth's guardian.
Also, there was an imminent threat of invasion, which justified his training with King Kai. But that alone probably would not have been good enough. There were hundreds, if not, even thousands of genocides committet by the saiyans. Bute none of their victims got to train with King Kai.
Goku probably just went straight to heaven, Piccolo to hell and they are out of this story.
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Also, there was an imminent threat of invasion, which justified his training with King Kai. But that alone probably would not have been good enough. There were hundreds, if not, even thousands of genocides committet by the saiyans. Bute none of their victims got to train with King Kai.
Goku probably just went straight to heaven, Piccolo to hell and they are out of this story.
That's right Nasu! No one disrespects you without being punished. Know your place, Gnome!
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Come on Nasu, don't let them get to you. You are a saiyan warrior!
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Females comentó:
Ohhh a flash back chapter? Looks like Vegetto does pay a visit to XXI. I know we were all confused during the ceremony to see him and we were told that it would be revealed later what happened.
Yeah, but Vegetto will be a chill guy during the ceremony. Maybe XXI restores his full power so that he can use him later on. XXI already stated that he will use Vegetto and Bra. He could do that by earning their trust (giving wishes to U19 as Bra requested nad restoring Vegettos full power).
Pizzachu comentó:
It's been 14 years and we still don't know how Goku and Cell Jr become friends
I'm sure it will be the original and only Cell Junior who has been betrayed by his dad.
Once there is another interruption, maybe Vegetto rampaging this time, when our heros are seeking new allies and somehow one Celll Jr pops up out of nowhere. 1 Respuesta(s)
Chaozu dies first. He is about to get blasted by any of the four. Without Piccolo and Goku, the earthlings are dead meat.
1 Respuesta(s)
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Radditz: No moon for you, neither to use it or destroy it.
Bardock: But I can still cut off your tail.
Anyways, it's nice to know that Radditz can at least compete with a super saiyan.
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Bardock: But I can still cut off your tail.
Anyways, it's nice to know that Radditz can at least compete with a super saiyan.
SoyBear comentó:
Is that General Silver?
Looks like him. But his clothes make him appear like an android.
It would be real nice, to see the old red ribbon generals (blue, silver, white) being transformed to androids.
mAc Chaos comentó:
At least this means Goku is training at King Kai's right? So he must be tremendously strong by this point.
He was only permitted to train with King Kai, because of the imminent invasion. But now, about 10 years should have gone by.
Also, the earthlings don't even know that Kami and Piccolo were aliens. They still believe they are literal God and Devil. So no trip to Namek, no new dragonballs, no resurrection.
The best thing the earthlings can come up with is being transfomed into Cyborgs by Dr. Gero. He must have collected data until Goku died at the Hand of Radditz. Joining forces with Gero and forming a new Red Ribbon Cyborg Army would be their best shot against the saiyans.
Yajirobe finally has some balls and Krilin showing the finger? That timelime must be awesome
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FishNChips comentó:
Time to train with Mr Popo. Think Roshi will join the Z Fighters?
Wonder if a new Kami will be chosen now...
Wonder if a new Kami will be chosen now...
Wasn't Roshi stronger than Yamcha in the end of dragon ball? If at all, he should have been on the same level. So him joining the Z Fighters could make sence. 1 Respuesta(s)
ChrisOfChaos comentó:
MUI was saying: Why is XXI just not sending Goku to another dimension like he did to Vegito?
Agreed, even if he broke out that would take at least one second, which would equal around six minutes in the other dimension.
Also those saying Goku doesn't have an obvious weakness...he does. He's merciful. He lets his guard down too much when the opponent shows signs of possible redemption, and he even gave Frieza energy so he'd have a chance to escape Namek. So if XXI could convince Goku that he has noble goals for winning, might be able to pull a fast one on him.
Agreed, even if he broke out that would take at least one second, which would equal around six minutes in the other dimension.
Also those saying Goku doesn't have an obvious weakness...he does. He's merciful. He lets his guard down too much when the opponent shows signs of possible redemption, and he even gave Frieza energy so he'd have a chance to escape Namek. So if XXI could convince Goku that he has noble goals for winning, might be able to pull a fast one on him.
That was a different Goku you are talking about.
The Namek Saga Goku was naive enough to spare literal every enemy. On earth he spared Vegeta and was willing to spare Nappa as well.
But Goku changed after his fight with Frieza. He had learned, that not every life can be safed.
In the Cell Games, Goku encouraged Gohan to kill Cell at the first given opportunity. Although he wanted Gohan to kill Cell, this wasn't the only reason why he didn't finish him. Goku simply wasn't strong enough to do it himself.
Also against Fat Buu, Goku wasn't as meek as he was in the past. He was low on time and didn't want the next generation to rely on a literal dead man to solve their problems. That is why he did not kill Buu in their first fight, not because of mercy. In the end, it was him too, who killed Kid Buu with the Genkidama.
Na ja, unser Held hat Angst vor Spritzen, das sollte eigentlich reichen :)
Aber Spaß beiseite, ich gehe davon aus, dass sich XXI entweder Vegetto oder Son Bra irgendwie zu eigen machen will, wie er ja schon angegedeutet hat.
Oder er wünscht sich, dass Son Goku's Kopfverletzung Rückgängig gemacht wird und er zu einem Vollidioten wie U13 Kakarott wird.
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Aber Spaß beiseite, ich gehe davon aus, dass sich XXI entweder Vegetto oder Son Bra irgendwie zu eigen machen will, wie er ja schon angegedeutet hat.
Oder er wünscht sich, dass Son Goku's Kopfverletzung Rückgängig gemacht wird und er zu einem Vollidioten wie U13 Kakarott wird.
ZenBuu comentó:
Hello everyone! With the start of this new chapter, we will finally go back to releasing 4 pages per week of DBM colors again! :)
The color pages are so much better than one would expect. The light and shadow effect on the Kaioshinn's faces, the background of a thinking Ginyu-Cold...
I love the details in your work. Great job as always!
the dark wolf comentó:
Ich bin wohl zu blöd um das zu verstehen. Warum hat der jetzt plötzlich dragonballs? Haben wir irgendwie ne seite übersprungen?
Es ist auf Page 2449 zu sehen, als XXI sich selbst sagt, "wir müssen das beenden".
Man sieht, dass sich der Qualm mit den versteinerten Dragonballs verbindet. 1 Respuesta(s)
Buff Shenron: What do you want this time?
XXI: How can I defeat Son Goku easily at the tournament?
Buff Shenron:
https://de.pinterest.com/pin/790029959603441755
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XXI: How can I defeat Son Goku easily at the tournament?
Buff Shenron:
https://de.pinterest.com/pin/790029959603441755
Ich frage mich vor allem, was die Erdlinge den Saiyajinns entgegensetzen wollen.
Wahrscheinlich ist die Red Ribbon Armee mit den Cyborgs von Dr. Gero an die Macht gekommen. Die Cyborgs dürften aber deutlich schwächer sein, genau wie die Saiyajinns.
Bislang ist das hier einer meiner Lieblingscomics
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Wahrscheinlich ist die Red Ribbon Armee mit den Cyborgs von Dr. Gero an die Macht gekommen. Die Cyborgs dürften aber deutlich schwächer sein, genau wie die Saiyajinns.
Bislang ist das hier einer meiner Lieblingscomics
Wie Vegeta errötet, aber Son Goku nicht hahaha
In der Kölnarena beim Eishockey haben die auch mal 2 Kerle in der Kisscam gehabt, die offensichtlich kein Paar waren. Da hat der eine der Kisscam glatt den Vogel gezeigt.
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In der Kölnarena beim Eishockey haben die auch mal 2 Kerle in der Kisscam gehabt, die offensichtlich kein Paar waren. Da hat der eine der Kisscam glatt den Vogel gezeigt.
Ich befürchte auch, dass wir im nächsten Kapitel erst mal ein Flashback bekommen und sehen, was in der Zwischenzeit hinter den Szenen vorging:
— Der Kaioshinn des Südens im Apartment von U10
— Was hat Vegettos Aufmerksamkeit erregt?
— Wo ist Yamchu abgeblieben?
Abgesehen davon gibt es noch einige von Bardocks Visionen, die noch eintreten müssen:
Vegettos Ausraster
Piccolos Sorge, dass das ganze Multiversum in Gefahr ist
Son Gohan hält einen zerbrochenen Dragonball
Son Goku freundet sich mit einem Cell Junior an.
Da Yamchu und der Süd-Kaioshinn fehlen, werden die wohl gerade in U10 sein und vom alten Kaioshinn über XXI aufgeklärt werden. Damit erfährt Radditz auch, warum er sein Mystic Powerup überhaupt bekommt.
Vegetto war möglicherweise bei XXI, konnte ihm aber weder was anhaben, noch ihm irgendwas nachweisen.
Mir ist auch aufgefallen, dass XXI zwar seine eigenen Dragonball hat, diese aber zu Stein geworden sind. Könnte es sein, dass ihm die Wünsche ausgegangen sind und er deshalb so nervös ist?
Sein erster Wunsch war die Fähigkeit, Vegetto in eine andere Zeitdimension zu teleportieren.
Sein zweiter Wunsch war die Fernbedienung für C18
Sein driiter Wunsch der Bannspruch gegen ZenBuu
Gegen Gast musste er ja ohne fremde Hilfe ran, vielleicht auch gegen Son Goku? 1 Respuesta(s)
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— Der Kaioshinn des Südens im Apartment von U10
— Was hat Vegettos Aufmerksamkeit erregt?
— Wo ist Yamchu abgeblieben?
Abgesehen davon gibt es noch einige von Bardocks Visionen, die noch eintreten müssen:
Vegettos Ausraster
Piccolos Sorge, dass das ganze Multiversum in Gefahr ist
Son Gohan hält einen zerbrochenen Dragonball
Son Goku freundet sich mit einem Cell Junior an.
Da Yamchu und der Süd-Kaioshinn fehlen, werden die wohl gerade in U10 sein und vom alten Kaioshinn über XXI aufgeklärt werden. Damit erfährt Radditz auch, warum er sein Mystic Powerup überhaupt bekommt.
Vegetto war möglicherweise bei XXI, konnte ihm aber weder was anhaben, noch ihm irgendwas nachweisen.
Mir ist auch aufgefallen, dass XXI zwar seine eigenen Dragonball hat, diese aber zu Stein geworden sind. Könnte es sein, dass ihm die Wünsche ausgegangen sind und er deshalb so nervös ist?
Sein erster Wunsch war die Fähigkeit, Vegetto in eine andere Zeitdimension zu teleportieren.
Sein zweiter Wunsch war die Fernbedienung für C18
Sein driiter Wunsch der Bannspruch gegen ZenBuu
Gegen Gast musste er ja ohne fremde Hilfe ran, vielleicht auch gegen Son Goku? 1 Respuesta(s)
Eldagusto comentó:
Andy was saying: Good question, where is Yamcha?
Und the Andoids don't deserve anything but shame for how they acted against I'K'L. Yamcha is the only hero there.
I’m guessing Yamacha insisted they were heroes so that perhaps gratitude will help rehabilitate them from their genocidal trauma.
Und the Andoids don't deserve anything but shame for how they acted against I'K'L. Yamcha is the only hero there.
I’m guessing Yamacha insisted they were heroes so that perhaps gratitude will help rehabilitate them from their genocidal trauma.
Yamcha has given up on them, as you can see on page 2381. Maybe he and the South Kaioshinn figure out what to do about XXI. He is one of the few, who know what's going on in U10 with Radditz.
My guess would be, that we get a flashback chapter soon. 1 Respuesta(s)
Good question, where is Yamcha?
Und the Andoids don't deserve anything but shame for how they acted against I'K'L. Yamcha is the only hero there. 2 Respuesta(s)
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Und the Andoids don't deserve anything but shame for how they acted against I'K'L. Yamcha is the only hero there. 2 Respuesta(s)
My man Vegetto finally gets some respect
But shouldn't he be somewhere else?
Why didn't Gast just tell Goku everything about XXI? All he needs to do is put his hand on Goku's forehead.
What about South Kaioshinn inspecting U10?
I am so confused. 2 Respuesta(s)
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But shouldn't he be somewhere else?
Why didn't Gast just tell Goku everything about XXI? All he needs to do is put his hand on Goku's forehead.
What about South Kaioshinn inspecting U10?
I am so confused. 2 Respuesta(s)
Zum Glück ist Vegetto gerade nicht anwesend. Der würde vor Neid platzen
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Die Gesichter von Gast und dem West Kaioshinn sind mega :D
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Da es im Turnier keine Kämpfe um den dritten Platz oder ähnliches gegeben hat, gehe ich tatsächlich von Auszeichnugen wie
"schnellster Sieg", "meister erlittender Schaden", "meiste Kills" etc aus. Wie in einem Videospiel.
Von den zahlreichen Aufgaben und den Kämpfen außerhalb des Turniers abgesehen, dürfte der Kampf XXI gegen Vegetto tatsächlich der schnellste gewesen sein.
C18 hatte ja, wie PrinceOfTheHood bereits sagte, Gelegenheit, XXI anzugreifen. ZenBuu hat imemrhin ein paar Sekunden und Gast tatsächlich Minuten durchgehalten.
Mögliche Preise wären:
Schnellster Sieg: XXI (gegen Vegetto)
Stärkste Attacke: Vegetto (gegen Broly)
Höchster erlittender Schaden: Gast (gegen Raichi und XXI)
Höchster zugefügter Schaden: U13 Vegeta (Massaker gegen Raichis Klone)
Meiste Gegner getötet: U17 Cell (Dabra, Bojack, Hildegarn)
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"schnellster Sieg", "meister erlittender Schaden", "meiste Kills" etc aus. Wie in einem Videospiel.
Von den zahlreichen Aufgaben und den Kämpfen außerhalb des Turniers abgesehen, dürfte der Kampf XXI gegen Vegetto tatsächlich der schnellste gewesen sein.
C18 hatte ja, wie PrinceOfTheHood bereits sagte, Gelegenheit, XXI anzugreifen. ZenBuu hat imemrhin ein paar Sekunden und Gast tatsächlich Minuten durchgehalten.
Mögliche Preise wären:
Schnellster Sieg: XXI (gegen Vegetto)
Stärkste Attacke: Vegetto (gegen Broly)
Höchster erlittender Schaden: Gast (gegen Raichi und XXI)
Höchster zugefügter Schaden: U13 Vegeta (Massaker gegen Raichis Klone)
Meiste Gegner getötet: U17 Cell (Dabra, Bojack, Hildegarn)
Der Preis für den schnellsten K.O geht an:
Vegetto! Er hat gegen XXI innerhalb von 0,1 Sekunden verloren! 1 Respuesta(s)
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Vegetto! Er hat gegen XXI innerhalb von 0,1 Sekunden verloren! 1 Respuesta(s)
The Big Gete Star comentó:
siksteen was saying: Xeno was saying:
Who even IS still around though? U16 and 18, U9, Cell, the androids and... that's about it?
U1 - Kaishin organizers
U5 - XII
U7 - Gast
U8 - Freeza & co
U9 - Humans
U12 - Future Trunks and c16
U13 - Saiyans
U14 - both androids
U16 - Vegetto & co
U18 - Canon & co
U19 - Heloites
Quite a lot of people actually
I'K'L's mom and Mary Sue are both still around right lol
Who even IS still around though? U16 and 18, U9, Cell, the androids and... that's about it?
U1 - Kaishin organizers
U5 - XII
U7 - Gast
U8 - Freeza & co
U9 - Humans
U12 - Future Trunks and c16
U13 - Saiyans
U14 - both androids
U16 - Vegetto & co
U18 - Canon & co
U19 - Heloites
Quite a lot of people actually
I'K'L's mom and Mary Sue are both still around right lol
I'K'L's mom left (Page 2382)
Ninetails2002 comentó:
When's the last time everyone here had a good nap anyways? Whenever the awards are handed out to 4th and 3rd place everyone should get some time to rest and recharge before the finals.
Good point. I always assumed that it would be natural, that the audience would get some rest or lunch time before the great finale.
PMC comentó:
Is XII laying on the ground? I'm sure the old wizard is just a shell, but it just seems a bit odd. I wonder what he means by "profit"? Many here are suggesting absorption or some means of control. I guess time will tell. Also, why doesn't Vegeto just IT to where he's going? I've never seen him walk anywhere LOL
We've seen the body of the old man laying on the ground when XXI chilled in his apartment during Babidi's assault. Also, ZenBuu literally obliterated the old man in his fight with XXI.
I assume that the old man's body is just a shell, maybe even a corpse that XXI uses to look "normally".
Sam comentó:
Vegito also isn't at full strength either right now due to the I'K'L incident, along with presumably being hungry. So if XXI were to try something on Vegito, now would be the time to do it if he comes to XXI alone.
Vegetto will still be able to go SSJ2 on his rampage, so he is still far above everyone else. XXI used Janemba to weaken Gast, whose power is just about SSJ3 Goku. And only then would he dare to eat Gast. Vegetto also observed XXI vs Gast, he knows that just has to avoide the black smoke. I don't think XXI has a chance against Vegetto.
Dicax comentó:
Majin Wasabi was saying: SuperKamiGuru was saying: She is such a spoiled Brat.
He was also fairly livid about his U18 selves unlocking SSJ0 or whatever it's called (it should be SSJ0). They did something either he didn't think of or possibly couldn't copy due to his fusion making a still mind and calmness difficult.
He was also fairly livid about his U18 selves unlocking SSJ0 or whatever it's called (it should be SSJ0). They did something either he didn't think of or possibly couldn't copy due to his fusion making a still mind and calmness difficult.
Vegetto envys U18 Goku and Vegeta because they accomplished something, that he didn't even think about.
Ich frage mich, was Vegetto wohl von XXI will.
So wie er reagiert, scheint er etwas bemerkt zu haben, das nicht ganz koscher ist. 1 Respuesta(s)
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So wie er reagiert, scheint er etwas bemerkt zu haben, das nicht ganz koscher ist. 1 Respuesta(s)
I appreciate the new face.
It reminds me a bit of Goku when he blastes Frieza on Namek.
Her facial expression shows beforehand, that she knows...
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It reminds me a bit of Goku when he blastes Frieza on Namek.
Her facial expression shows beforehand, that she knows...
Dislpay name comentó:
The supreme Kai can read minds, so Xii is either telling the truth or he has anti-mind reading powers.
Eddboy comentó:
Don't the Kai’s know when someone is lying?
The thing is...
XXI isn't lying. He just said that someone should check out U10. No more, no less.
From all we've seen, I'm convinced now that XXI is the literal devil. He rarely shows his true face, but when he does he's scary as hell. The resemblence to Palpatine, who represents the devil, is pretty obvious now. He pulls strings from the back and simply manipulates South Kaioshin into doing something useful for him.
Technically, The old Kai and Radditz don't break any rules. But neverheless, this won't look good for them.
XXI acting all nice and chill but being evil is just hilarious. But I seriously did not expect him agreeing to Bra's wish.
Also, the old Kaioshin and Raditz might be in trouble now because from all people, South Kaioshin is the most serious when it comes to the rules
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Also, the old Kaioshin and Raditz might be in trouble now because from all people, South Kaioshin is the most serious when it comes to the rules
Also das XXI einfach "JA" sagt, hätte ich am allerwenigsten erwartet. Aber irgendwie auch cool von ihm. Es passt zu meiner These, dass XXI der Teufel persönlich ist. Von vorne lieb und nett und im Hintergrund die Fäden ziehend.
Und wie er den alten Kaioshin und Radditz verpetzt ist irgendwie auch lustig. Gerade der Süd-Kaioshin mit einen Regeln...
Dann würde XXI sogar davon profitieren, wenn er seinen ersten Wunsch für U19 hergibt. Ein Universum mehr zu fressen mnom mnon mnon
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Und wie er den alten Kaioshin und Radditz verpetzt ist irgendwie auch lustig. Gerade der Süd-Kaioshin mit einen Regeln...
kari comentó:
Ich muss schon sagen XXI wirkt ziemlich nett, ich bin sicher dass er tatsächlich denn ersten Wunsch überlässt aber der Gedanke dass es sowieso nichts bringt weil er alle Universen fressen will lässt seine Gutmütigkeit herunter schwanken.
Dann würde XXI sogar davon profitieren, wenn er seinen ersten Wunsch für U19 hergibt. Ein Universum mehr zu fressen mnom mnon mnon
kari comentó:
Ich find's echt lustig dass XXI so tuen muss als wäre er nicht sauer hahaha ich liebe denn Dbm Humor. Ey yoo ich habe die Dragonballs von XXI gerade erst bemerkt. Vielleicht wird sein Wunsch sein Dass Polunga seine Kraft denn Dunklen Drachen geben damit er noch mächtiger wird (also dass der dunkle Drache mächtiger wird) oder dass der Drache ka auch ohne die Dragonball so existieren kann denn ich bin mir ziemlich sicher dass sein Drache nicht mehr oft heraufbeschwören mehr so kann wegen seine Dragonballs verstreuen sich auch nicht irgendeine schwachtestelle müssen seine Dragonballs haben. Ich wollte noch dazu sagen ich dachte sein Drache währe so ein normales Wesen also wie Jz Buu oder so aber dass er doch ein (Dragonball) Drache ist also wie Polunga und Shenlong ist ziemlich spannend.
Wir können im zweiten Panel ziemlich genau erkennen, dass der schwarze Rauch sich mit einem versteinerten Dragonball verbindet. Dass sieht für mich eindeutig nach Dragonball GT aus.
Aber das wirft für mich noch mehr Fragen auf. Wenn XXI einen "Shenlong mit Zigarre" als Partner hat, wozu braucht er dann die Dragonballs des Turniers? 2 Respuesta(s)
Lol, Bra fragt XXI echt nach einem Wunsch? Das hätte ich nicht gedacht.
Und XXI ist echt nur so wütend weil er Hunger hat? An wen erinnert mich das nur?^^
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Und XXI ist echt nur so wütend weil er Hunger hat? An wen erinnert mich das nur?^^
AberrantDesign comentó:
I'm very confused as to what people are so worked up about. What exactly is Gast able to tell Goku that's so gamechanging
"Goku, this is so very important for you to know. When I was in the smoke, XXI tried to EAT me!"
"Ok, I appreciate it, but I'm not sure how that helps,"
"No you don't get it, the SMOKE was eating away at me!"
"Yeah we already figured that out on our own this page in the second box,"
"Oh. Oh! But did you know you can't teleport out of the smoke?"
"We figured that out based on the fact that you didn't teleport out of the smoke,"
Like, clearly Gast surviving has consequences for XXI, he's very upset about it. But I don't think it's that straightforward.
Maybe telling Goku that he can eat energy could be helpful, but this isn't a major "I have to tell Goku IMMEDIATELY" thing, like, it can wait
"Goku, this is so very important for you to know. When I was in the smoke, XXI tried to EAT me!"
"Ok, I appreciate it, but I'm not sure how that helps,"
"No you don't get it, the SMOKE was eating away at me!"
"Yeah we already figured that out on our own this page in the second box,"
"Oh. Oh! But did you know you can't teleport out of the smoke?"
"We figured that out based on the fact that you didn't teleport out of the smoke,"
Like, clearly Gast surviving has consequences for XXI, he's very upset about it. But I don't think it's that straightforward.
Maybe telling Goku that he can eat energy could be helpful, but this isn't a major "I have to tell Goku IMMEDIATELY" thing, like, it can wait
How about Gast tells Goku that XXI can absorb any blast like android 19 did?
How about telling Goku that XXI claims to be immortal and not even a living being?
How about telling Goku that XXI's literal attacks with fists and splitters were easily to defend, even in a weakened state?
How about avoiding the smoke that would fry Goku on impact?
The more Goku knows, the better for him.
Vault756 comentó:
JasonPhoenix was saying: Hm, quite the violent reaction. XXI can win against Goku already, the trick he used on Vegetto is plenty, but I wonder if he's still gonna confirm this with his "partner"? We might finally get an answer to the questions "what, who and why" about this guy(s).
That trick isn't going to work. That would be such anti climactic writing to end the finals like that. The spell likely takes too long to be viable once an opponent knows about it. In his fight with Vegito we see them standing around for awhile talking before the spell goes off.
There is also a chance that the finals will have different rules than the rest of the fights to ensure the spectators get a good show or something. It's not uncommon in games or sports to have slightly different rules for finals.
FearfulDivine was saying: I like to imagine he really went all the way back to his apartment saying FUCK FUCK FUCK over and over
hope the next page explains why
He hasn't been disqualified maybe he needed Gast energy for his plan?
He probably needed Gast's energy to make up for losing Janemba's. I'd wager he's unstable right now. The way he's moving implies something is wrong. He's rushing, he always rushes back to his quarters after his fights but this is different. Something is off.
zero logic was saying: I think Bra's assessment of Janemba is very sus bc earlier during the fight she thought Janemba was easy.
Personally, I think she woulda killed it no problem, she is leagues beyond Gohan after all.
So is Janemba though. In the movie it took a fused being in Super Saiyan to defeat Janemba. Compare that to the Buu fight. Vegito was stronger that Buuhan without going Super Saiyan. He only goes Super Saiyan to show Buu it's hopeless so he can get absorbed in an attempt to free his comrades. Also Bra was only confirmed to be stronger than Gohan when she went SSJ2 in the flashback. Y'all are really low on Janemba. That thing is much stronger than people are giving it credit for.
Benson O'Malley was saying: I don't know why people are assuming XXI is mad because he didn't get to eat Gast. He's obviously afraid that Gast is going to reveal he was being attacked after he declared forfeit and he's going to lose his chance at getting a wish on the Dragon Balls.
Maybe. I'm not saying it's impossible but I just don't see it happening. A DQ here would be kind of anti climactic. It would also be pretty easy for XXI to spin the narrative to not get DQ'd. Gast forfeited but this damage was because his attack was already in progress. He stopped after the announcement was made.
Females was saying: Streuselsturm was saying:
I have a bad feeling she will visit XXI in his apartment so he can absorb her... Please let that not be the case it would very contrived imo.
What if Vegito goes to his apartment instead and he gets absorbed and that's why we see him going on a rampage because he is an avatar of XXI?
Yeah I'd buy it. In terms of energy Vegito has a lot more than Gast. No fancy magic but a lot more power. Vegito is also likely defenseless against such things.
turbo-verse was saying: Goku will probably win because you know he’s the main character
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happywarrior99 was saying: Even if Gast refuses to share information about U5 XXI with the Z fighters, Discus still heard everything that U5 XXI said to Gast, thus Discus can still share information about U5 XXI with the Z fighters.
I'm not so sure. Gast was yelling about his forfeit but I doubt XXI was yelling his plans to consume Gast. Namekian hearing is good but we don't know if it's that good. Not yet at least. Let's wait and see before jumping to conclusions.
LordUzaki was saying: Im betting that the condition for XXI to get whatever force hes working with to agree to help fight Gast was the consumption of Gast himself. Now that Gast has been saved, its only a matter of time before XXI is confronted by this other "force" and in turn is no longer able to contain it.
Yeah I've been saying it for awhile but to me it seems clear that XXI is some sort of new type of fusion. He's multiple people in there and one of them, Janemba, just "died" basically. That thing was purified. It's gone now, it's not part of XXI anymore and that has probably caused him some issues.
Andy was saying: Crozz was saying: Big mad Xxi is cranky for not getting his royal meal.
It's probably because he fears to get exposed by Gast.
Even in the best case scenario for him, Goku will get important information about how to battle XXI.
And XXI always had the advantage in his fights, that his oppenents knew nothing about him. The element of surprise, which is essential in combat and that carried XXI through the tournament, is gone.
His ominous dragon did not believe, that XXI would win a fair battle against Gast, who is on SSJ3 Level. Goku has passed that Level literally decades ago. So of course, XXI is in trouble.
Worst Case for him would be a disqualification for attacking Gast after forfeitting the match. In that case, he must rely on other plans to get his hands on the dragon balls. And it's not like the others are not suspicious since the fight XXI vs ZenBuu.
What is all this, Gast is on SSJ3 level nonsense? First of all SSJ3 level is vague af. Like SSJ3 Goku is definitely weaker than SSJ3 Vegito or even SSJ3 Gotenks. It's not a level. It's a form and how strong it is depends on the user. Second of all, y'all are really sleeping on Janemba. Did we watch the same movie? Where Goku and Vegeta had to fuse together and go SSJ to beat Janemba. That's more than can be said for Buu even. At base form fusing made Vegito stronger than Buu after Gohan was absorbed. Transforming was all to show Buu how pointless fighting was so he could get absorbed to free his friends. Buu even told Uub that for a being to maintain their control and continue to act after being transformed into candy they would need to be thousands of times stronger than you. Janemba is way stronger than you're giving it credit for and Gast was still stronger than that.
That trick isn't going to work. That would be such anti climactic writing to end the finals like that. The spell likely takes too long to be viable once an opponent knows about it. In his fight with Vegito we see them standing around for awhile talking before the spell goes off.
There is also a chance that the finals will have different rules than the rest of the fights to ensure the spectators get a good show or something. It's not uncommon in games or sports to have slightly different rules for finals.
FearfulDivine was saying: I like to imagine he really went all the way back to his apartment saying FUCK FUCK FUCK over and over
hope the next page explains why
He hasn't been disqualified maybe he needed Gast energy for his plan?
He probably needed Gast's energy to make up for losing Janemba's. I'd wager he's unstable right now. The way he's moving implies something is wrong. He's rushing, he always rushes back to his quarters after his fights but this is different. Something is off.
zero logic was saying: I think Bra's assessment of Janemba is very sus bc earlier during the fight she thought Janemba was easy.
Personally, I think she woulda killed it no problem, she is leagues beyond Gohan after all.
So is Janemba though. In the movie it took a fused being in Super Saiyan to defeat Janemba. Compare that to the Buu fight. Vegito was stronger that Buuhan without going Super Saiyan. He only goes Super Saiyan to show Buu it's hopeless so he can get absorbed in an attempt to free his comrades. Also Bra was only confirmed to be stronger than Gohan when she went SSJ2 in the flashback. Y'all are really low on Janemba. That thing is much stronger than people are giving it credit for.
Benson O'Malley was saying: I don't know why people are assuming XXI is mad because he didn't get to eat Gast. He's obviously afraid that Gast is going to reveal he was being attacked after he declared forfeit and he's going to lose his chance at getting a wish on the Dragon Balls.
Maybe. I'm not saying it's impossible but I just don't see it happening. A DQ here would be kind of anti climactic. It would also be pretty easy for XXI to spin the narrative to not get DQ'd. Gast forfeited but this damage was because his attack was already in progress. He stopped after the announcement was made.
Females was saying: Streuselsturm was saying:
I have a bad feeling she will visit XXI in his apartment so he can absorb her... Please let that not be the case it would very contrived imo.
What if Vegito goes to his apartment instead and he gets absorbed and that's why we see him going on a rampage because he is an avatar of XXI?
Yeah I'd buy it. In terms of energy Vegito has a lot more than Gast. No fancy magic but a lot more power. Vegito is also likely defenseless against such things.
turbo-verse was saying: Goku will probably win because you know he’s the main character
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happywarrior99 was saying: Even if Gast refuses to share information about U5 XXI with the Z fighters, Discus still heard everything that U5 XXI said to Gast, thus Discus can still share information about U5 XXI with the Z fighters.
I'm not so sure. Gast was yelling about his forfeit but I doubt XXI was yelling his plans to consume Gast. Namekian hearing is good but we don't know if it's that good. Not yet at least. Let's wait and see before jumping to conclusions.
LordUzaki was saying: Im betting that the condition for XXI to get whatever force hes working with to agree to help fight Gast was the consumption of Gast himself. Now that Gast has been saved, its only a matter of time before XXI is confronted by this other "force" and in turn is no longer able to contain it.
Yeah I've been saying it for awhile but to me it seems clear that XXI is some sort of new type of fusion. He's multiple people in there and one of them, Janemba, just "died" basically. That thing was purified. It's gone now, it's not part of XXI anymore and that has probably caused him some issues.
Andy was saying: Crozz was saying: Big mad Xxi is cranky for not getting his royal meal.
It's probably because he fears to get exposed by Gast.
Even in the best case scenario for him, Goku will get important information about how to battle XXI.
And XXI always had the advantage in his fights, that his oppenents knew nothing about him. The element of surprise, which is essential in combat and that carried XXI through the tournament, is gone.
His ominous dragon did not believe, that XXI would win a fair battle against Gast, who is on SSJ3 Level. Goku has passed that Level literally decades ago. So of course, XXI is in trouble.
Worst Case for him would be a disqualification for attacking Gast after forfeitting the match. In that case, he must rely on other plans to get his hands on the dragon balls. And it's not like the others are not suspicious since the fight XXI vs ZenBuu.
What is all this, Gast is on SSJ3 level nonsense? First of all SSJ3 level is vague af. Like SSJ3 Goku is definitely weaker than SSJ3 Vegito or even SSJ3 Gotenks. It's not a level. It's a form and how strong it is depends on the user. Second of all, y'all are really sleeping on Janemba. Did we watch the same movie? Where Goku and Vegeta had to fuse together and go SSJ to beat Janemba. That's more than can be said for Buu even. At base form fusing made Vegito stronger than Buu after Gohan was absorbed. Transforming was all to show Buu how pointless fighting was so he could get absorbed to free his friends. Buu even told Uub that for a being to maintain their control and continue to act after being transformed into candy they would need to be thousands of times stronger than you. Janemba is way stronger than you're giving it credit for and Gast was still stronger than that.
First of all, you need a certain base power level to reach SSJ3. Kid Goku would never have reached that level, neither would Kid Gohan have.
Second of all, the fusion movie literally mirrors the Buu saga. It was produced at the same time and the villain has the exact same stereotype. First fat, innocent and playful and in the end a complete lunatic. Against Janemba, Goku and Vegeta had the same power as in the end of the Buu saga.
Goku could defeat both Janamba and Buu in their first encounter, but was outclassed in the final battle. Against Kid Buu, it was the stamina that SSJ3 drained and against Janemba, he has to fight 2 battles in a row and didn't know sh*t about his opponent. That's why he lost so quickly.
So, it is essential that Goku had a chance to observe XXI in action 1 Respuesta(s)
Son Bra ist wieder einmal total naiv. Zuerst meint sie, Janemba wäre einfach zu besiegen und jetzt hätte sie gegen ihn verloren. Also was machen wir? Wir gehen zu XXI und fragen ihn ganz nett, ob er einen Wunsch für U19 spenden kann? Ich versuche Bra zwar immer gegen ihre Hater zu verteidigen aber manchmal... oh weh...
Er hat das ganze Tunier mit verdeckten Karten gespielt und Gast wird singen wie ein Vögelchen. XXI verliert alle seine Vorteile, nämlich dass er unberechenbar für seine Gegner war und den Überraschungseffekt auf seiner Seite hatte.
Im schlimmsten Fall wird er disqualifiziet und muss sich eine neue Strategie ausdenken. Es wird mal wieder Zeit, dass ein Bösewciht ein paar Regeln bricht und das Turnier auseinander nimmt.
Da sein eigener Drache nicht an einen Sieg XXI's gegen Gast geglaubt hat und Son Goku Gast übertreffen dürfte, sollte er eigentlich eine kleine Chance haben.
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VegetaFanHoch7 comentó:
Warum ist XXI so wütend?
Er hat doch gewonnen und hat im Prinzip schon seinen Wunsch, oder wollte er Gast absorbieren?
Wenn ja; was hätte ihm das gebracht, er hat doch drei Wünsche.
Wenn er eine Fähigkeit oder Kräfte von Gast haben wollen würde könnte er sie sich einfach mit einem der anderen Wünsche wünschen.?
Er hat doch gewonnen und hat im Prinzip schon seinen Wunsch, oder wollte er Gast absorbieren?
Wenn ja; was hätte ihm das gebracht, er hat doch drei Wünsche.
Wenn er eine Fähigkeit oder Kräfte von Gast haben wollen würde könnte er sie sich einfach mit einem der anderen Wünsche wünschen.?
Er hat das ganze Tunier mit verdeckten Karten gespielt und Gast wird singen wie ein Vögelchen. XXI verliert alle seine Vorteile, nämlich dass er unberechenbar für seine Gegner war und den Überraschungseffekt auf seiner Seite hatte.
Im schlimmsten Fall wird er disqualifiziet und muss sich eine neue Strategie ausdenken. Es wird mal wieder Zeit, dass ein Bösewciht ein paar Regeln bricht und das Turnier auseinander nimmt.
Valtsia30 comentó:
Wie Kann Goku das Ding besiegen?
Da sein eigener Drache nicht an einen Sieg XXI's gegen Gast geglaubt hat und Son Goku Gast übertreffen dürfte, sollte er eigentlich eine kleine Chance haben.
Crozz comentó:
Big mad Xxi is cranky for not getting his royal meal.
It's probably because he fears to get exposed by Gast.
Even in the best case scenario for him, Goku will get important information about how to battle XXI.
And XXI always had the advantage in his fights, that his oppenents knew nothing about him. The element of surprise, which is essential in combat and that carried XXI through the tournament, is gone.
His ominous dragon did not believe, that XXI would win a fair battle against Gast, who is on SSJ3 Level. Goku has passed that Level literally decades ago. So of course, XXI is in trouble.
Worst Case for him would be a disqualification for attacking Gast after forfeitting the match. In that case, he must rely on other plans to get his hands on the dragon balls. And it's not like the others are not suspicious since the fight XXI vs ZenBuu. 1 Respuesta(s)
Dann muss ich mich hier auch mal outen. Ich bin erst seit 3 Jahren Mitleser dieses Comics und durch die Youtube Videos von Mondo Cool auf DBM aufmerksam geworden ^^ Damals war der Arc mit Majin Bra fast vorbei und ich habe erst mal nichts von all dem gerafft, was da eigentlich abging.
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XXI nutzt die Pause vor dem Finale mit Sicherheit aus, um sich mit seinem Drachen zu beraten.
Auch, dass er sich so schnell zurückzieht ist in meinen Augen ein Hinweis darauf, dass XXI mit seiner Disqualifikation rechnet. Er könnte gegenüber den Vargas behaupten, dass er seinen Angriff in dem Moment gestoppt hat, als der Kampf offiziell beendet wurde. Aber er hat trotzdem Gast weiterhin angegriffen, nachdem dieser aufgegeben hat.
Es stellt sich also die Frage, ab welchem Moment die Aufgabe eines Kampfes wirksam ist. Ab dem Moment, in dem die Vargas den Kampf beenden oder ab dem Moment, wo der Teilnehmer seiner Aufgabe erklärt? Ich glaube, dass XXI genau so argementieren wird und sich eine Strategie überlegt, wie er Son Goku einfach besiegen kann.
Falls XXI nicht qualifiziert wird und gegen Son Goku ran muss, rechne ich eher mit einem Sieg XXI's. Wir haben oft genug gesehen, dass Magie gegen reine Kampfkraft einfach überlegen ist. XXI hat Vegetto und ZenBuu einfach so mit Magie aus dem Tunier befördert.
Kräftetechnisch dürfte Son Goku XXI eigentlich überlegen sein. Er hat den SSJ3 ja schon vor Jahrzehnten gemeistert, seitdem ununterbrochen trainiert und auch seine eigene Mystic Form erreicht. Aber das dürfte ihm gegen XXI nciht viel nutzen. 1 Respuesta(s)
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Auch, dass er sich so schnell zurückzieht ist in meinen Augen ein Hinweis darauf, dass XXI mit seiner Disqualifikation rechnet. Er könnte gegenüber den Vargas behaupten, dass er seinen Angriff in dem Moment gestoppt hat, als der Kampf offiziell beendet wurde. Aber er hat trotzdem Gast weiterhin angegriffen, nachdem dieser aufgegeben hat.
Es stellt sich also die Frage, ab welchem Moment die Aufgabe eines Kampfes wirksam ist. Ab dem Moment, in dem die Vargas den Kampf beenden oder ab dem Moment, wo der Teilnehmer seiner Aufgabe erklärt? Ich glaube, dass XXI genau so argementieren wird und sich eine Strategie überlegt, wie er Son Goku einfach besiegen kann.
Falls XXI nicht qualifiziert wird und gegen Son Goku ran muss, rechne ich eher mit einem Sieg XXI's. Wir haben oft genug gesehen, dass Magie gegen reine Kampfkraft einfach überlegen ist. XXI hat Vegetto und ZenBuu einfach so mit Magie aus dem Tunier befördert.
Kräftetechnisch dürfte Son Goku XXI eigentlich überlegen sein. Er hat den SSJ3 ja schon vor Jahrzehnten gemeistert, seitdem ununterbrochen trainiert und auch seine eigene Mystic Form erreicht. Aber das dürfte ihm gegen XXI nciht viel nutzen. 1 Respuesta(s)
I can't wait to see what Gast will say! And I'm so glad that he actually survived that.
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Ja XXI! Troll Dich, bevor Gast Dich vor allen anderen entlarvt
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OldDBFan comentó:
Hard to tell what will happen.There's still a lot of Bardock vision's that can happen, a fierce battle for the Dragon Balls.
XXI probably will resort to other means to get what he wants and then the Z-Fighters will destroy the dragonballs to ensure nothing goes wrong.
Sodapopinski comentó:
What if he needed to eat Gast for some reason?
It seems pretty clear he's mainly after the dragonballs, but could he need a certain kind of sustenance to survive? Does that form cost him to use and he was denied its replenishment?
It seems pretty clear he's mainly after the dragonballs, but could he need a certain kind of sustenance to survive? Does that form cost him to use and he was denied its replenishment?
If XXI isn't lying, then he is immortal and just incredibly greedy for food. I always assumed, he needs to dragonball to get access to all universes.
Anubis comentó:
Gast hat's ordentlich erwischt. Aber töten ist doch in diesem Turnier gestattet und gegen Absorbtionen oder Verschlingen, kann ich mich, auch an keine Beschränkungen erinnern, oder irre ich mich? Sprich, würde er deswegen disqualifiziert werden können? Allmählich müssen sie ihren Wettbewerb, sowieso wieder unterbrechen. Das packt Goku nicht.
XXI hat Gast außerhalb eines Kampfes angegriffen. Es ist wie bei Nappa gegen Freezer auf page 544.
Infernape2244 comentó:
Ich glaube XXI wird jetzt leicht schwitzen dass er aus dem Turnier ausscheidet.
Ich wette, er verkrümelt sich in sein Appartment um sich mit seinem Kumpel was einfallen zu lassen
I hope Gast survives this.
At least, everyone knows now that XXI attacked outside of a match
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At least, everyone knows now that XXI attacked outside of a match
kari comentó:
Ey Leute ihr wisst nicht wie ich mich für mein Boy Ghast freue. Hoffe XXI wird disqualifiziert dieser schummler.
Es gibt nicht viele Möglichkeiten für XXI, weiter am Turnier teilzunehmen. In den englischen Kommentaren hat es jemand auf den Punkt gebracht:
1) Gast ist tot und damit wissen alle, dass XXI ihn nach dessen Aufgabe getötet hat.
2) Gast überlebt und klärt den Rest darüber auf, was passiert ist.
Wir sollten auch den Titel des Kapitels beachten, "Awarding Ceremony". Ich kann mir gut vorstellen, dass Gast überlebt und das Finale XXI gegen Son Goku wäre. Aber XXI wird nach Gasts Entüllungen disqualifiziert und damit ist das Turnier, streng genommen, vorbei.
Ich bin gespannt! 1 Respuesta(s)
Jetzt ist XXI am Sack. Gast wird mit Sicherheit erzählen, dass XXI ihn nach seiner Aufgabe angreifen wollte.
Damit würde XXI disqualifiziert und ich kann mir gut vorstellen, dass er das nicht ohne weiteres hinnehmen wird.
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Damit würde XXI disqualifiziert und ich kann mir gut vorstellen, dass er das nicht ohne weiteres hinnehmen wird.
Oh boy! Is XXI in trouble now because he attended to attack after the fight?
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Autschmenno comentó:
Vlt registriert Vegetto was los ist und greift ein?
Die übrigen Teilnehmer können weder sehen noch spüren, was in dem Nebel vor sich geht (page 2439)
Außerdem war Vegetto eh nicht der größte Fan von Gast, seit dieser ihn in seine Schranken gewiesen hat. Das Ende von Gast dürfte ihn nicht jucken
debu comentó:
Creepy. ^^
Eine der stärksten Seiten seit Langem meiner Meinung nach.
Hier mal meine Prediction, was als nächstes passiert:
Gast wird von XXI verschlungen. Außerhalb bekommt niemand etwas davon mit, dass Gast vorher versucht hatte aufzugeben, dementsprechend wird XXI erstmal regulär zum Sieger des Kampfes erklärt, da sein Gegner 30 Sekunden lang nicht wieder auftaucht.
Kurz vor dem Finalkampf zwischen Son-Goku und Gast sollen die Dragonballs benutzt werden um alle Verstorbenen zurückzubringen.
Alle werden wiederbelebt, aber von Gast keine Spur, er ist nicht nur tot, sondern hat durch das Verschlungen werden von Körper und Seele quasi aufgehört zu existieren und kann nicht wiederbelebt werden.
Ähnlich wie in Dragonball, wenn bereits Tote nochmal sterben, ihre Seele vernichtet wird und es kein Zurück mehr gibt.
Daraufhin brechen die Organisatoren das Turnier ab, weil sie realisieren, dass das was passiert über die Macht die sie mit den Dragonball haben hinausgeht und alle in ernsthafter Gefahr sind.
Eine der stärksten Seiten seit Langem meiner Meinung nach.
Hier mal meine Prediction, was als nächstes passiert:
Gast wird von XXI verschlungen. Außerhalb bekommt niemand etwas davon mit, dass Gast vorher versucht hatte aufzugeben, dementsprechend wird XXI erstmal regulär zum Sieger des Kampfes erklärt, da sein Gegner 30 Sekunden lang nicht wieder auftaucht.
Kurz vor dem Finalkampf zwischen Son-Goku und Gast sollen die Dragonballs benutzt werden um alle Verstorbenen zurückzubringen.
Alle werden wiederbelebt, aber von Gast keine Spur, er ist nicht nur tot, sondern hat durch das Verschlungen werden von Körper und Seele quasi aufgehört zu existieren und kann nicht wiederbelebt werden.
Ähnlich wie in Dragonball, wenn bereits Tote nochmal sterben, ihre Seele vernichtet wird und es kein Zurück mehr gibt.
Daraufhin brechen die Organisatoren das Turnier ab, weil sie realisieren, dass das was passiert über die Macht die sie mit den Dragonball haben hinausgeht und alle in ernsthafter Gefahr sind.
Finde ich echt interessant über den Verlauf des Turniers zu spekulieren. Hier wäre meine These:
Der Nebel verschwindet und XXI kehrt in den Körper des alten Mannes zurück. Von Gast keine Spur. Niemand weiß was geschehen ist und nach 30 Sekunden wird XXI zum Sieger erklärt.
Danach kommt wieder einmal eine Unterbrechung. Der alte Kaioshin und Mystic Radditz platzen herein und klären alle auf, wer XXI ist. Ein Streit bricht aus:
Gruppe A: XXI hat keine Turnierregeln gebrochen und deshalb können wir nichts tun.
Gruppe B: XXI muss sofort in sein Universum zurück geschickt werden.
Vegetto: Ich habe die Schnauze voll! Zuerst erledige ich XXI und dann alle die mir dumm kommen.
Gohan: Vater, beruhige Di....urk
Vegetto: I'll kill you all if I have to!
Es würde Sinn machen, wenn Vegetto einen guten Grund für einen Ausraster hat, damit die Vargas ihn nicht zurück schicken.
Damn! I wanted XXI to eat Gast but now I really feel bad for him. The terror on his face and the fact that someone like Gast gives up...
XXI must be hell when he shows his true self. Not to mention, that he surpressed his hunger like what seems forever for him.
XXI would have exposed himself and his true nature to everybody in his 2nd fight. It's also questionable, whether that would have worked against a pull power Vegetto who could have one shotted pretty much everyone except Broly and ZenBuu.
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XXI must be hell when he shows his true self. Not to mention, that he surpressed his hunger like what seems forever for him.
siksteen comentó:
Oh man, didn't expect to see Gast lose this badly.
But the question still remains. If XII could do this from the start, why didn't he? Why not "feast" on Vegetto? What's with the old man puppet ruse? What about that other character who gives him answers (which I still assume is some kind of Shenron)?
So many questions.
But the question still remains. If XII could do this from the start, why didn't he? Why not "feast" on Vegetto? What's with the old man puppet ruse? What about that other character who gives him answers (which I still assume is some kind of Shenron)?
So many questions.
XXI would have exposed himself and his true nature to everybody in his 2nd fight. It's also questionable, whether that would have worked against a pull power Vegetto who could have one shotted pretty much everyone except Broly and ZenBuu.
Oha! Ich hätte nicht gedacht, dass XXI so gruselig sein kann. Machs gut Gast, war nett mit Dir
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仅是剑客 comentó:
If his absorption has no limit, even carbonite wouldn't work, anti-matter is the only solution.
But if XXI is this incredible, he doesn't have to use Janemba to wear Gast out.
His energy absorption must have its limit.
Gast, hit him really hard!
But if XXI is this incredible, he doesn't have to use Janemba to wear Gast out.
His energy absorption must have its limit.
Gast, hit him really hard!
XXI used Janemba and other tricks because he is a coward. His helper said to him, that he never takes risks. XXI even "needed" help to defeat Android 18.
DhangerShanger comentó:
You know, if they do both get disqualified here and Vegetto gets butthurt at the tournament having a more or less random, meaningless conclusion, then it surely wouldn't help that it'd be his "inferior" version who won by technicality.
You know, if they do both get disqualified here and Vegetto gets butthurt at the tournament having a more or less random, meaningless conclusion, then it surely wouldn't help that it'd be his "inferior" version who won by technicality.
XXI is still visible to the vargas because he IS the smoke. So only Gast would be disqualified for disappearing for more than 30 seconds. But I don't think that Gast will even survive this fight to be honest. Storywise, he must get out of the way so that Vegetto can rampaging without being stopped. 2 Respuesta(s)
ZenBuu comentó:
Gibt mir definitiv Yakon vibes, oder bin ich da alleine? :D
Hatte ich letzte Seite schon vermutet. Aber da XXI schon ein ganzes Universum gegessen hat, wird die Strategie gegen Yakon wohl kaum Erfolg haben. 2 Respuesta(s)
Blau Broly comentó:
bei dem 3 panel stelle ich mir selber jetzt die Frage schreit da XXI wegen den angriff von gast oder saugt er da die Energie ein ?
Das frage ich mich auch. Sieht für mich so aus, als saugt der die Energie entweder ein oder er feuert gleich aus seinem Mund.
Does XXI literally swallow Gast's attack just like Babidi's Monster Yakon, that ate light?
Or did Gast just shoot straight into his face?
But I'm curious how much strength Gast has actually left 1 Respuesta(s)
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Or did Gast just shoot straight into his face?
But I'm curious how much strength Gast has actually left 1 Respuesta(s)
the dark wolf comentó:
Ich finde diesen gegner scheisse. Passt kein bisschen ins DBM. Magier waren bisher immer schwächlinge die einen starken kämpfer erschufen aber ohne den, keine chance hatten. Ich will echte kämpfe sehen!
Was heißt "Echter Kampf"? Wir sehen zum ersten mal was XXI wirklich auf dem Kasten hat und das alleine reicht schon, um dieses Kapitel zu feiern.
Außerdem haben wir nicht einmal eine handvoll Seiten gesehen, aber das was wir sehen, gibt uns erneut Rästel auf:
Wenn XXI seinen Gegner frisst, übernimmt er dann deren Stärken und Talente?
Oder ist es für ihn eine buchstäbliche Mahlzeit?
Wie lange braucht XXI, um seine Gegner zu verspeisen? Ein einfacher Kontakt mit dem Rauch hat bei Gast ja ausgereicht, um seine Füße zu "verbrennen".
Mich erinnert XXI ein wenig an das Reich der Schatten aus Yu-gi-oh: Ein schwarzer Nebel, der seine Opfer verschlingt. Für die Zukunft auf jeden Fall spannend, denn wie will ein Krieger gegen Rauch kämpfen? Ein Kamehameha abfeuern?
I bet that XXI wins the fight by actually eating Gast. When the fog settles, Gast will be gone and XXI will be declared the winner by 30 count.
Then, no one else will know how to deal with XXI, what will give him a major advantage in the finale against Goku.
I honestly never thought of XXI having a dragonball. I assumed that stone is a crystal that he uses to oberve the battle outside.
The old kai knows and fears XXI. Therefore, XXI must be something ancient that tried to consume the entire universe.
In the Kakaditz chapter, Salagir confirmed that XXI's name is inspired from the 21st tarot card, which symbolizes the world.
And we also know, that XXI intends to devour all the multiverse too, thus replacing all existence with himself.
We have the same storytelling in dragonball super, with Zamazu rebelling against the gods, overthrowing them and eventuelly becoming the universe itself.
That is basically a biblical story from Lucifer, the devil who opposes God and wants to replace God (the creation and all that is).
XXI is probably the evil itself, but he is also a coward as he wouldn't rely on hin own comptence, but rather cheating through the tournament. 1 Respuesta(s)
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Then, no one else will know how to deal with XXI, what will give him a major advantage in the finale against Goku.
ZenBuu comentó:
MUI was saying: Nope, XXI doesnt have dragonballs with him.
Are you sure about that? Page 1516 clearly shows him holding a Dragon Ball in his hand, that got turned to stone.
Also, the first panel on page 2110 clearly shows the shape of a dragon. I'll put this in a spoiler tag, just to be sure:
Spoiler, click to show
Are you sure about that? Page 1516 clearly shows him holding a Dragon Ball in his hand, that got turned to stone.
Also, the first panel on page 2110 clearly shows the shape of a dragon. I'll put this in a spoiler tag, just to be sure:
Spoiler, click to show
I honestly never thought of XXI having a dragonball. I assumed that stone is a crystal that he uses to oberve the battle outside.
Females comentó:
XXI is definitely a demon/dragon guy imo. I assume he is either as old as the Kais or is a product of what ever happened long ago in that universe that we still don't know yet. I guess he consumed a lot of Namekians and has access to the Dragon Balls in the same sense he has access to Janemba.
The old kai knows and fears XXI. Therefore, XXI must be something ancient that tried to consume the entire universe.
In the Kakaditz chapter, Salagir confirmed that XXI's name is inspired from the 21st tarot card, which symbolizes the world.
And we also know, that XXI intends to devour all the multiverse too, thus replacing all existence with himself.
We have the same storytelling in dragonball super, with Zamazu rebelling against the gods, overthrowing them and eventuelly becoming the universe itself.
That is basically a biblical story from Lucifer, the devil who opposes God and wants to replace God (the creation and all that is).
XXI is probably the evil itself, but he is also a coward as he wouldn't rely on hin own comptence, but rather cheating through the tournament. 1 Respuesta(s)
Reminds me a bit of the shadow realm in yu-gi-oh
1 Respuesta(s)
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XXI ! XXI ! XXI ! Devour Gast like you did your whole universe! Muahahahaha
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Finally, the main story continues!
If there is an awarding ceremony soon, I assume that Vegetto will get even more jealous and feel like he's been left in the dust.
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If there is an awarding ceremony soon, I assume that Vegetto will get even more jealous and feel like he's been left in the dust.
the dark wolf comentó:
Also wäre gast für vegetto kein gegner gewesen. Da gogeta janemba ohne probleme gekillt hat. Ergo ist gast gar nicht so stark wie alle denken und die dummmmmme bra hat völlig grundlos aufgegeben!!!!
Das wäre er auch nicht. Gast kämpft auf einem SSJ3 Level, wie wir im Kampf gegen Raichi und jetzt gegen Janemba gesehen haben.
Die Community streitet ja noch, ob dieser Janemba genau so stark ist wie der, den wir aus dem Film kennen, aber nach dem was wir bislang gesehen haben, scheint genau das der Fall zu sein.
Gast war bislang so übermächtig wegen seiner Magie. Er hat Vegetto mit Magie gestoppt, nicht mit Stärke. Gast's Magie war sogar stark genug um ZenBuu zu kontrollieren, der ja im Grunde Magie wie Shenlong beherrscht hat.
Im Kampf gegen Janemba konnte er diese nicht einsetzen, deshalb ist dieser Kampf so schwer für ihn gewesen. Und wenn Gogeta Janemba einfach so wegklatschen konnte, könnte es U16 Bra mit Sicherheit auch. Und Vegetto 10 mal mit seinem kleinen Finger. 1 Respuesta(s)
It looks like XXI is going to devour Gast, just as he did with his whole universe. Maybe he can sort of "absorb" his opponents just like Buu or Cell did?
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If I'm not mistaken, Gast can read minds. If he uses that abiliy on the boy, should be able to know what went down in U5?
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Anubis comentó:
Gegen Janemba hat Gast wohl gewonnen, aber was jetzt? Er ist völlig fertig, Regeneration dürfte Energie kosten die mittlerweile fehlt und der Magier steht ja noch. Vielleicht sollt es so sein daß er in einem epischen Kampf, einen heftigen Gegner besiegen, aber den Turnierkampf aus Erschöpfung heraus nicht weiterführen kann, was nun auch zu seiner Niederlage führen würde. Im Finale bliebe Goku, gegen XXLS Magie keine Möglichkeit zu gewinnen. Schätze wir nähern uns tatsächlich dem Verlauf, indem das Turnier durch weitere Vorfälle unterbrochen wird.
Ich halte es für denkbar, dass XXI die Gelegenheit nutzt, um Gast zu eliminieren. Schließlich ist er trotz allem ein Garant für Ordnung und Sicherheit und der offizielle Kampf zwischen XXI und Gast läuft noch.
XXI dürfte mit Gast jetzt leichtes Spiel haben und aus seiner Sicht macht es mehr Sinn, Gast zu töten, anstatt ihn aus dem Turnier zu werfen.
Damit würde es zum Finale Son Goku vs XXI kommen, in dem Son Goku gegen einen völlig unbekannten Gegner kämpft.
Looks similar to Gogeta's soul punisher. But XXI is still there and he is not even in his true form.
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Gast Greatness comentó:
Strange to see Vegito not seething with rage for once...perhaps the calm before the storm?
Using the power of Hokuto no Ken anime references and "skillfully learning" (not copying) the techniques of others, Gast cooks up a char-grilled Janemba to be served and consumed.
Thus revealing that Janemba was but a mere demon all along...and you know what...(sniff) I'm going to miss him; we really built a deep and intimate connection throughout this fight (blows nose).
But hey, look at the bright side, Janemba did his job; softening and weakening Gast. And if worst comes to worst, XII can take Janemba's head and bludgeon Gast to death with it.
Using the power of Hokuto no Ken anime references and "skillfully learning" (not copying) the techniques of others, Gast cooks up a char-grilled Janemba to be served and consumed.
Thus revealing that Janemba was but a mere demon all along...and you know what...(sniff) I'm going to miss him; we really built a deep and intimate connection throughout this fight (blows nose).
But hey, look at the bright side, Janemba did his job; softening and weakening Gast. And if worst comes to worst, XII can take Janemba's head and bludgeon Gast to death with it.
Vegettos facial expression looks way more menacing and dark than usual. And given how much of an artist asura and many others are, I doubt that this is a blunder or a coincidence. They've shown us each character with all kind of emotions in all varietys.
As for Vegetto for example, we've seen him playful and joyful against broly, concerned and worried about ZenBuu, taken a back by Gokus and Vegetas SSJN, livid against Bra, smug in the current fight...
I hope I'm not reading into it too much, but that could be a subtle part for his villain arc.
So Gast can copy pretty much any technique?
First the dark lightning magic from ZenBuu and now "Vegettos technique"?
I guess Janemba is done for, but will Gast thave enough strength left to defeat XXI? I highly doubt that 3 Respuesta(s)
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First the dark lightning magic from ZenBuu and now "Vegettos technique"?
I guess Janemba is done for, but will Gast thave enough strength left to defeat XXI? I highly doubt that 3 Respuesta(s)
Darkstar comentó:
Andy was saying: Go Gast!
Darkstar was saying: But how?
Janemba is invulnerable to magic!
And Gast is a pure being. He can't use dark magic
Wth is going on??
I'm not sure about Gast being a pure being. It has never been stated this way. He killed Frieza, Buu and Hildegarn in his universe and it would make a fine addition to his character, using dark magic.
On page 2385 XXI. Himself said gast is pure.
Super Gojita 3 was saying: so I'm seeing comments on here citing buus spell, so I had to look it up, and I'm guessing its the dark world lightning.
Kindly point out what it really is if I'm mistaken.
anyway, nice change here, with gast using magic as he shed those evil shards from before.
I kind of hope gast wins as a means to subvert expectations. of course we expect xxi to win.
so how can we expect xxi to continue as the primary threat if he loses? could he?
certainly he could just speak the namek language to porunga like he did with the buu sealing spell. even if his body is destroyed, should the speech go through anyway, he gets the wish. whatever it is. so he doesn't have to win this match to win the real victory.
or, AKA, losing the battle but winning the war so to speak.
or he could just sweep the budokai, I dunno
I highly doubt Gast will win. Xxi categorically asked Dark shenron on How to defeat Gast easily in the tournament match And Shenrons granted wish can't go in vain. Even if it's Gary stu against him
Xxi got to have another trick up his sleeve
Darkstar was saying: But how?
Janemba is invulnerable to magic!
And Gast is a pure being. He can't use dark magic
Wth is going on??
I'm not sure about Gast being a pure being. It has never been stated this way. He killed Frieza, Buu and Hildegarn in his universe and it would make a fine addition to his character, using dark magic.
On page 2385 XXI. Himself said gast is pure.
Super Gojita 3 was saying: so I'm seeing comments on here citing buus spell, so I had to look it up, and I'm guessing its the dark world lightning.
Kindly point out what it really is if I'm mistaken.
anyway, nice change here, with gast using magic as he shed those evil shards from before.
I kind of hope gast wins as a means to subvert expectations. of course we expect xxi to win.
so how can we expect xxi to continue as the primary threat if he loses? could he?
certainly he could just speak the namek language to porunga like he did with the buu sealing spell. even if his body is destroyed, should the speech go through anyway, he gets the wish. whatever it is. so he doesn't have to win this match to win the real victory.
or, AKA, losing the battle but winning the war so to speak.
or he could just sweep the budokai, I dunno
I highly doubt Gast will win. Xxi categorically asked Dark shenron on How to defeat Gast easily in the tournament match And Shenrons granted wish can't go in vain. Even if it's Gary stu against him
Xxi got to have another trick up his sleeve
Ok, I forgot that. Thanks for claryfing :)
Go Gast!
I'm not sure about Gast being a pure being. It has never been stated this way. He killed Frieza, Buu and Hildegarn in his universe and it would make a fine addition to his character, using dark magic. 1 Respuesta(s)
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Darkstar comentó:
But how?
Janemba is invulnerable to magic!
And Gast is a pure being. He can't use dark magic
Wth is going on??
Janemba is invulnerable to magic!
And Gast is a pure being. He can't use dark magic
Wth is going on??
I'm not sure about Gast being a pure being. It has never been stated this way. He killed Frieza, Buu and Hildegarn in his universe and it would make a fine addition to his character, using dark magic. 1 Respuesta(s)
Drasknes44376 comentó:
Ammar was saying: But he did want to absorb Broly. He just wasn't that serious about it and got over it real quick when he failed.
Exactly, if he actually wanted Broly don’t you think Buu would’ve been more pissed? Guy saw the match against Vegito, got excited and decided to press a few buttons to see what these guys are made of. Buu might’ve been intrigued by Broly, but his real goal was to get a good wrestle in.
Exactly, if he actually wanted Broly don’t you think Buu would’ve been more pissed? Guy saw the match against Vegito, got excited and decided to press a few buttons to see what these guys are made of. Buu might’ve been intrigued by Broly, but his real goal was to get a good wrestle in.
Buu absorbing Broly was the literal reason, why this fight took place. If he didn't want to absorb Broly, why did he go for him in outer space?
After this scene, we get a closer insight into ZenBuu's character. He appreciates the challenge more than actually becoming stonger. And he still has an option, to face Vegetto or maybe Son Bra in the tournament at this point. So there is still plenty of fun for him.
He is more like the Joker or Maximillian Pegasus: An evil, but still joyful character who is fun to be around with. Creepy, evil and playful. 1 Respuesta(s)
ap2007 comentó:
Zen buu technically beat all of them if he wanted to absorb vegito right now he could but tournament rules
I don't think absorbing Vegetto would have been satisfying for ZenBuu. He wanted to fight him so badly, that he literally went beserk after Vegetto was out of the tournament and XXI wasn't available for a rematch.
Vegetto was the only warrior that ZenBuu coud never defeat and of course, the tournament was a perfect opportunity for him, to finally face and defeat Vegetto at his best.
Kantax comentó:
oh die Splitter sind raus also kann er wieder reggen, mal sehen ob er noch genug Energie hat dafür, aber selbst wenn wird XXI noch ein Problem
Wenn er sich regeniert, heilt er dann nur seine physischen Wunden oder bekommt er dann auch seine verbrauchte Kraft wieder zurück?
Spontan würde ich sagen, dass es wie bei Vegetto wäre. Er ist zwar wieder wohlauf, hat aber trotzdem Kraft verloren und allzu viel Kraft hat Gast nicht mehr übrig. 1 Respuesta(s)
Looks like Gast isn't holding back after all. This battle will be over soon
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Bei Vegettos Ausraster dürfen wir auch nicht vergessen, dass Son Goku und Son Bra ja noch darübe debattieren werden, ob und wie man ihn aufhalten kann.
Damit dürften die beiden schonmal nicht das Ziel von Vegettos Attacken sein. Vegetto würde ruckzuck Kleinholz aus denen machen.
Außerdem muss der Ausraster auch unter Vorzeichen stattfinden, dass die Vargas U16 nicht einfach nach Hause schicken. Er muss also einen legitimen Grund haben oder es muss totales Chaos herrschen.
Ich kann mir vorstellen, dass XXI das Turnier gewinnt und dann irgendwie publik wird, wer er wirklich ist und was er vorhat. Vielleicht taucht der alte Kaioshinn aus U9 auf und enthüllt alles, was er über XXI weiß.
Das könnte die Gruppe komplett spalten:
Gruppe A: "XXI hat nach den Regeln gespielt und wir können nichts tun"
Gruppe B: "XXI ist zu gefährlich und muss aufgehalten werden"
Vegetto: "Ich murkse XXI ab und danach alle, die ihn verteidigen!"
Das würde erklären, warum Son Bra oder Son Goku nicht Ziel von Vegetto sind, aber Gohan und die Kaioshins zum Beispiel doch.
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Damit dürften die beiden schonmal nicht das Ziel von Vegettos Attacken sein. Vegetto würde ruckzuck Kleinholz aus denen machen.
Außerdem muss der Ausraster auch unter Vorzeichen stattfinden, dass die Vargas U16 nicht einfach nach Hause schicken. Er muss also einen legitimen Grund haben oder es muss totales Chaos herrschen.
Ich kann mir vorstellen, dass XXI das Turnier gewinnt und dann irgendwie publik wird, wer er wirklich ist und was er vorhat. Vielleicht taucht der alte Kaioshinn aus U9 auf und enthüllt alles, was er über XXI weiß.
Das könnte die Gruppe komplett spalten:
Gruppe A: "XXI hat nach den Regeln gespielt und wir können nichts tun"
Gruppe B: "XXI ist zu gefährlich und muss aufgehalten werden"
Vegetto: "Ich murkse XXI ab und danach alle, die ihn verteidigen!"
Das würde erklären, warum Son Bra oder Son Goku nicht Ziel von Vegetto sind, aber Gohan und die Kaioshins zum Beispiel doch.
Nah, he's just blunt. He also dropped Goku immideatly. But he does have a point about Vegetto. Vegetto has been starved out for days and was slain by I'K'L.
Edit: In a few moments, the South Kaioshinn will enter the U10 apartment. XXI must have given his hint by now. That's going to be exciting