Please tell me goku has learned shadow clone jutsu because this is high lv bs to be defeated so quickly like this salagir must be obviously pulling a fast one on us.

So we are about so see some infinite speed scaling from ultimate level goku ?

And people were saying androids lol

I’m glad Gohan will finally be taken down by the Naruto talk No Jutsu

Would be crazy to get a new special chapter out of no where in typical Dbm fashion lol but at those are announced ahead of time. This fight will be exceptional but I feel another special arc coming soon.

Gohan is all like “this my my kill you’ve already eaten your full” he’s acting like a true saiyan.
Goku must be looking down in disgust. Surely Kami could’ve still asked king yemma to allow goku to train at king kai even if kami is dead he should’ve been able to keep his physical soul form being god of earth. And goku since he was a hero should keep his body too. Like fighters that were part of the other world tournament. So he should be able to talk to Gohan through king Kai. 1 Replie(s)

This just goes to show they didn’t train in the time chamber.

Kami is gone and Mr Popo likely went back to the afterlife with no guardian for years. So there was no one to direct them to training in the time chamber or have knowledge. Which could’ve been same case for Mr Popo in trunks timeline.

With one of the more special side characters like Krillin dead I see it as the fate as the other heroes as well. Maybe only if Chichi or Ox King ends up confronting them Will Gohan have a change of heart it seems.

Kudos to the guys who predicted South Kai was conflicted by IKL.
I guess if Zamasu and Degesu from Daima can be bad so can South Kai.
But how far will South Kai go before he realizes the path he’s going about is totally wrong ? Once he sees the true fruits of IKL nature and intent by controlling villians how would he react to the invasion ? Surely he wouldn’t just work alongside villians battling what he thinks of the heroes as “villians.” He can’t be that naive. But maybe he is. We’ve always known south Kai as more of a muscle head raw fighter than being the diplomat and conversion of the Kai group.

I believe Cell will be dragonball multiverse version of DBS Frieza where he ultimately has no choice but to work together with the heroes and become a anti villian.

Babadi invasion was pretty much the bootleg version of what’s going to come I assume. XXI gives up his match and takes over the tournament just when the wish is about to be granted to catch everyone on the good side off guard while they are focused on the dragon. And not what’s about to happen besides them.

Sad to see universe 9 go. They definitely were one of the most interesting groups beside universe 13. But elder Kai has at least left raditz with the option to be valuable and change the fate of his own universe as well as help against IKL. I assume someone is going to stop Raditz from being teleported.

I guess we were all wrong

The saiyans still are stronger than the z warriors. The fact that nappa should be losing power after a arm but even then it’s still enough to seriously harm Krillin means nappa full power would’ve killed all of them. At this point tien needs to lay it all on table and use a charged Kikoho. Not like they have their scouters to detect how strong tien blast is.

Such a large loss of blood should hinder nappa much more. It’s not like losing a tail like frieza. Losing a arm for a saiyan should still effect them. Gohan just getting his arm broken by cell ki blast aimed at Vegeta ultimately reduced Gohan power by less than half. So even if Nappa is stronger he shouldn’t be compared to Krillin now after losing a arm.

The guy who predicated the mental blocks to where Raditz can’t harm good characters was spot on. Very good plot from elder kai perspective. These new powers come with insurance.

So if raditz is forced to be a good guy how will this conflict with his brother Kakarot who enjoys slaughtering
The Innocent ?

Nonethelsss Raditz power being mystic lv is so cool. He’s definitely going to be of great assistance against XXI plan. And will be recruited to the good side against his own universe when XXI tries to invade the tournament similar
To babadi.

Surely if all the Kais had been there this act of violence wouldn’t of been so extreme.
But maybe this is a influence from dbs zamasu.

Nappa sure has some longevity I thought he would’ve been killed by now

Perhaps XXI is only showing them a what if scenario because I doubt a supreme Kai would kill another supreme Kai. Even if found guilty at most I can only see South sealing him or sending him back to his universe with vargras tech.

This is getting very interesting. Before Goku fight begin XXI will already have a Stock of fighters in his corner. This possibly makes me believe XXI will give up his match. Only for when the dragon is summoned he will perform a coup d’etat with the villians attacking the heroes and kais. And with their powered up forms this should be interesting.
I guess babadi invasion of tournament was just the prototype for what XXI is about to do. 1 Replie(s)

This doesn’t make sense for Trunks to struggle this badly against Black without Rose form. Not when this trunks is capable of reaching super saiyan blue and god ki tier. Black only achieved that level by fighting goku in those god forms.

Trunks with rage form should’ve been able to easily kill him like he did the androids and cell of his time. Even if you use the manga version trunks is still powerful enough to cut zamasu who is stronger than goku black without or with rose form. 1 Replie(s)

Great art I was sure that Vegeta would’ve told Nappa to dodge but what unexpected twist. Now there’s no way Nappa will be a threat since he should suffer a huge power drop. Unlike namekian saiyan aren’t able to regenerate from lost of limbs. This is a huge W for team z warriors. Maybe Krillin is at the level he was in the battle with ginyu force. Guru did unlock his hidden potential after all early. Where areas Krillin training for years could’ve unlocked that same level over time.

But great page very excited to see how Vegeta reacts. Maybe they should’ve kept those scouters on.

She had enough time to say “gravity hurts” instead of “I forfeit I give up” now she’s space dust. What a smart fighter. 2 Replie(s)

Looks like yamcha is slightly better this reminds me a little of the yamcha vs Saibamen battle when both were clashing. But this time his enemy can’t self destruct so easy as a Saibamen. I think yamcha takes this in bag. He should end it with spirit ball to save energy for later.

Cell looks so cool in that shade. His personality seems the same.

But Gas was already stronger than Cold final form who was around android 16 just 10 years ago. So Gas was probably around cell second form or third lv a decade ago. Then fast forward ten years later Gas probably grew to Majin Buu levels.

Great art and coloring good to know even without frieza and cold this cell looks cool.

But will cell really listen to gero ? What if he is disobedient like the androids and just kills gero before attacking gas ? 1 Replie(s)

Well there goes our chance to determine how strong they are in comparison to their selves in original timeline. If they don’t want to use scouters they can still use the Saibamen to test the earthlings out. Unless nappa is ready to fire up.

The shading art is amazing. Bare minimum this cell is two android 19 tier combined onto himself. So he should be semi cell lv that fought Vegeta and trunks before he absorb 18.

Gohan deserves an Oscar award. He’s not fooling me. A kiai attack is just a shockwave from their fist. He could easily caused more damage with a different choice of attack like sudden a ki blast but I think this is a warning shot. But I don’t see them immediately jumping into battle after this. I think the saiyans would at least try to judge their power levels or use Saibamen.

My theory is that the z warriors are around 4000s and the saiyans are all 2 x stronger. Vegeta 36k, Nappa 8k, Raditz 3k, and Gohan between under 36k and above 8k. They wouldn’t last more than 1 or 2 months in The time chamber going off kid goku. So if they trained in once that would be 1-2 months and a second time 6 months. So I would say they are 20 x stronger if 10 x stronger after Kami training. Which essentially makes them the same gap as each other in Saiyan Saga. But Tien Kikoho might be able to take out Nappa.

Ahhh yea magnificent drawing art and shading is beauty galore

I wonder if this Gohan is as strong as future Gohan vs android 19 lv androids that would make sense they can damage him but he can also fight them and have a great edge but not able to one shot multiple at once

To be fair i think a misconception is that they spent 2 full years in time chamber. If memory serves me correct post king piccolo battle kid goku could barely stay in time chamber for 1 month and all of goku friends at beginning of dbz series should be close that level or higher. So if they went in first time they should be able to stay in for only a few months at best and the second time maybe half a year of six months. So six months + 10 years would probably boost them 20 x stronger if just training for 1 year made them 10 x stronger with Kami. So they should be around 4000s while the saiyans don’t get much of an amp since they weren’t training but passively growing stronger through missions. Vegeta went from 10k to 18,000 from a kid as he said he was stronger than King Vegeta as a child. So a 1.8 increase. So at most I think saiyan would be 2 x themselevs with Vegeta being 36,000, nappa being 8,000, and raditz being 3,000. While Gohan is a level under vegeta yet nappa holds him in high regard so I think Gohan being above raditz but between Vegeta and nappa could make sense. 1 Replie(s)

I told you guys training in the time chamber wouldn’t get them to surpass even vegeta. Goku training with king kai is worth hundreds of earth years the time chamber wouldn’t be enough.

I wish this Gohan was in tournament I feel universe 16 Gohan should’ve been different than ours. Although the only thing that’s different is vegito and bra. Oh and pan too. But this Gohan really reminds me of future Gohan but less dark as he still has a sense of belief that they can win and not scared to confront these androids. Maybe it’s because they are weaker androids than 18 and 17 that future Gohan fights. And probably killed less humans like 17 and 18.

Will salagir answer on how strong these androids are generally compared to 17 and 18 ? 1 Replie(s)

Definitely more interesting than a lot of manga out right now can’t wait to see the interactions between Gohan and the z fighters.

Bravo artwork and storytelling I guess Bulma lied about Gohan dying due to seriously wanting Gas help. And Gohan hides his identity since he is a Target under Gero and a random hero chicken man wouldn’t be.

But how is Gohan able to transform into SSJ if he had no knowledge of the form.

If memory serves me correctly he first found out about ssj from Vegeta in ginyu saga and seeing it with his own eyes through his dad in frieza battle. So how is Gohan able to transform now ?

But I remember Vegeta in this universe after Gas let him go months later had achieved the form and killed ginyu force just a few months after frieza saga in Gas verse. But he unconsciously had awakened it. Due to him having battle wounds and scratches on himself he must have fought them in base form then unconsciously awakened the form and killed then mid battle. As he says “so this is the legendary form” before he says it wasn’t enough to surpass Gas.

So maybe Gohan unconsciously awakened it too. 1 Replie(s)

Bulma and Yamcha having a kid is so cool and the most likely thing to happen if Vegeta never stayed on earth.

Also is Yajirobi going to be in this special ? Surely they must have told him the saiyans might come back to earth and that goku was killed.

This Gohan is pretty much brainwashed at this point
It’s actually pretty dark of f rtny

In dragonball multiverse U13 raditz said he was stronger than ginyu and his elite and nappa would probably be frieza first form level or second form but those guys are 30+ years into story and this is only 10 years so I think this raditz is maybe 2 x stronger at 3k and Nappa 2x stronger at 8k and Vegeta 2x stronger at 36k. I think a 2 fold increase is appropriate considering raditz was only 1.5 k despite being much older than goku and being on missions and in space for large amount of his life for 24+ years

Let’s remember training with king kai for months is worth hundreds of years on earth.

I don’t think these z warriors would be any stronger than king kai training goku even if they enter time chamber and train and have an additional 10 years. I think when saiyans read the scouters it will all say power levels around 8k. 1 Replie(s)

Raditz is about to get the most displace spanking a dad ever gave his son

But as barbaric as Saiyan race are this is probably just a light wrestle for them lol

Pretty near how the colors really bring out the art. I forgot how cool Bardock looks on him in this universe with his super saiyan form. Usually the times we get to see bardock as a super saiyan is always in broken battle armor.

Well they aren’t freaked out by sensing the saiyans power levels so that’s good to account for
This is also an extreme situation since none of them have Kaio Ken to boost their power if the saiyans use oozaru it’s pretty much over. 1 Replie(s)

If Bulma can fix up android 16 in the real story I’m sure she can reprogram an android in this story. Plus she had aid and assistance from thorn, who is one of smartest beings in that galaxy.

I’m expecting yamcha with the short hairstyle

If they truly did train in time chamber what do you guys think ?

Are they in the low 2000s, middle 4000s, or even high 10000s

Man final form King Cold would’ve been a monster if given the time to power up. I also wonder how strong his previous form is with the long head if this final form is android 16 lv. Perhaps around Vegeta lv when he first fought 18. Loving the colors i really will enjoy the next battle even more though.

That’s kind of a mean thing to say his art has been fine it isn’t like he’s been in charge of doing main story

To point a sword at someone’s else is your sword sharper ? Is your art better ? Stop hating 3 Replie(s)

Nice art and genius attack this move is actually canon to the PlayStation budokai games

Though it does make the question if Bulma can create planetary level attacks with machines be believable if Gero can create Star level androids from humans.

And the battle with earth begins but not just physically but this will be a mentally battle for Gohan too

The best bet is for the earthlings to have used the time chamber. They might be weaker than king Kai training goku but it should still make them stronger than the orignal 1 year training they had in Saiyan saga. Even if a few times higher.

They might attempt to suppress and hide their level when the saiyan arrive to hide from scouters

Hopefully someone is going to take advantage of this moment when this android is wrapped in gum to shoot a energy attack since it can’t absorb with it trying to get gum off it it

Nice team work guys let’s keep the ball moving I need a XL energy attack with a small fry asap

Very great story and sad like the titanic. You know the ending but the means and routes to the middle and end is still a great story to tell. Everything was tried to stop this from happening but in the end there was a universe where broly prevailed. I hope this answers the questions for the day 1 readers who kept up with the series since beginning and always wondered how broly got stuck in ice.

I’m glad Krillin took down a android this places him already above frieza lower forms in power scale
I always thought it was stupid for the kienzan rule of not being able to kill someone 1 Replie(s)

Notice tien says can’t waste time. I think this is a clue that they will enter the time chamber there are already 4 of them. Krillin goes in with Yamcha. Tien goes in with Chiatzou. They will probably not be able to withstand the time chamber but they have each other to train with inside so it should be more helpful training with someone than vs alone.

If time chamber made goku surpass the androids 17, 16, and cell second form which is a big gap between each then this training should boost the z warriors a few tiers above themselves. Maybe Krillin gets the same boost he got from guru when he goes into and leaves the chamber here going in with a power lv of 177 and leaving out with 11,000. 2 Replie(s)

The sad ending of universe 20. I always thought Broly was frozen due to wandering space so long. But to be frozen inanimated due to being responsible for a universe destruction is crazy work. So when he was sent back to universe 20 is he just turned to ice again since there is nothing in the reality of universe 20 anymore neither life and death. 3 Replie(s)

Roshi is right the best thing is to prepare and be patient surely the saiyans might come back one day to finish off earth to sell it because raditz told the earthlings the saiyans sell planets.

Who are we all kidding Mr Popo coming out of no where to ask them to train with time chamber makes all the sense in world and their best way to increase their powers beyond the saiyans.

Kaio Ken Videl looks fantastic. I think cold final form is strong as 17 or 16. So this form is maybe as strong as Trunks super saiyan when he first appeared ? 2 Replie(s)

Magnificent panels. A lot of time and art is being put into this chapter it seems. So this is what Gast Universe “Z Warriors” looks like. I wonder where Gast and Thorn are. Possibly waiting for a way to take them all out at once or possibly going to confront Gero directly after Krillin and co have the other androids distracted. I could count at least 20 cyborgs if not more. This will be like resurrection of F z fighters fighting the frieza force.

I think all of them are just going to Bide time for Gast and Thorn to confront Gero. And Thorn might have to distract another cyborg while Gast runs off to gero like bleach does fights where multiple things are happening at once. Which also kind of fills cluttered.

If Krillin or Tien taught Videl Kaio Ken instead of learning it directly from King Kai. Then it makes me wonder why Goku wasn’t as generous enough to teach Kaio Ken to any of his friends. He’s at least a good teacher to teach Gohan how to use Super Saiyan.

But who’s to say the saiyan power would remain stagnant while the z fighters increase. And tien and yamcha had training under king kai and Krillin had his power unlocked. So they would still need a lot to even catch up to just vegeta. King kai told goku training in other world would be worth dozens of training in real life. So I don’t think even with ten years would the z warriors compensate enough to catch up. And why do you say “without using time chamber” they are definitely not going to get to that level without it 1 Replie(s)

Turtle island is well drawn this feel like genuine dragonball art in early beginning of Z.

I wonder what the remaining z warriors can do to prepare themselves ? Unlike universe 9 in Dbm a universe with no Goku, those guys like Krillin and Tien died and trained under King Kai learning Kaio Ken like Goku which greatly impacted their future as they continued to train their base form. And they were all wished back to life with Earth Dragonballs. So this version the remaining z warriors have no real other option but to enter time chamber to gain a big power up. And possibly learning Mafuba. 2 Replie(s)

What a twisted ending. Everyone dies again despite being wished back to life just moments prior. Kind of feels like universe 12 how they were so close to bringing everyone back with the namek dragonballs but frieza surface swiped the planet and killed everybody on Namek except Nail. But later kills Goku and Ginyu kills Nail too. 1 Replie(s)

Cool we get to see the epilogue of what happened in Gast universe. His, the universe 9 heroes, and the universe 13 saiyans have been by far the most interesting stories to the reader. Gast pretty much went from traveling space killing cooler traveling again and killing Cold. He’s had a space odyssey and now his journey now brings the giant to Earth just like the Nameks in the Z timeline.


It’s going to be a little disappointing that Gast will not have a real challenge since these Androids should all be weaker than Androids 17 and 18 since they are all absorption models like 19. So a bunch of android 19 level fighters can be physically put down by Gast. I wish I could say Gero has a ace in the hole to give Gast a challenge but I truly think 17 and 18 are the ace in the hole unless he some how managed to fix android 16 programming but even then no androids are even half as strong as Gast at this point of story even a decade or more before the Dbm tournament starts. Gast should be super saiyan level 2 level even back then if not higher just for defeating King Cold final form who’s said to be around 17 or 16 level. And Gast stomped cold easily. So if Gast if Vegito needs level 2 to beat Gast then Gast should be around super saiyan 1 vegito level in Dbm and years before that in this saga he should at least be super saiyan 2-3 level.

This story isn’t a part of the Dbm story realities like Gast universe so Gero doesn’t have to have invaded and probably didn’t bother to make Cyborgs if his enemy Goku and Piccolo died at beginning of Z and stayed dead.

This story is pretty amazing so far I imagine some talk No jutsu speeches from Krillin to try and get into Gohan head. But even if he listens what good would that do. Vegeta is surely stronger and would kill him for betrayal. I don’t think Gohan is stronger than Vegeta nor ever learned to conceal his power like z fighters do. To be honest Vegeta should at least be strong as his namek self while fighting the ginyu force. And Gohan might be the second strongest and might surpass vegeta with his rage amps but again Gohan has no one around him to go into a rage about as his dad is dead unless he sees chichi that could
Be the only thing to save earth. As Gohan wouldn’t know Krillin or the others as much.

I hope enough time has passed since fusion dance again. Or maybe they can teleport to goku and Vegeta to give them earrings for a permanent fusion like Vegito but before the Kai’s can do this broly final power up destroys the rift and thus everything is destroyed

His chance at redemption has come I’m expecting a lot of talk No jutsu from z fighters to Gohan telling him this isn’t who he is

Awesome cover but I don’t remember a great ape appearing in this chapter 1 Replie(s)

I doubt they ever got to planet Namek they probably only trained for years to get stronger. I would say The planet is most likely taken under attack by the Androids similar to Gast story. But this Gohan is still a teenager and Gero probably hasnt taken over entire earth yet. But Tien and Yamcha should still be alive since they were never killed by Saibamen and Nappa in this timeline. I’m expecting a saiyan invasion but all of the z fighters would be able to sense Gohan energy. So they won’t wait for full moon night they would confront Gohan and the saiyans immediately. Instead of saiyans going to them the z warriors (Krillin, tien, yamcha) would bravely go to them. Though I doubt they would grow stronger than them with no King Kai training. Unless they trained in the time chamber. But even then that wouldn’t amount to a power strong enough to fight the Saiyans in Ape forms if Vegeta throws a power ball in sky to act as a moon. The earthlings are doomed either way. Gohan will have to choose and fast when he gets there.

But can’t Gogeta just ask king yemma to resurrect them surely he can repair deleted souls

True ^ but remember this is a universe and story where Broly is still alive. So he has to somehow win in all of this. I’m glad the entire story so far has been very suspenseful to say the least.

Broly taking control of Buu makes sense. I remember Gohan saying Buu could get corrupted if he absorbed too many vilians. And absorbing Broly would definitely change his personality. Maybe Buu will be forced to dodge this attack then Broly bursts out of Buu body. I know it’s never been seen before this Broly has been the Le Crop of powerful villians. I’m not sure even XXI would win. XXL beat Vegito with magic and teleportation to another dimension not by actual power. We know XXI is above Gast but I think Gast is only Super Saiyan 1 or 2 Vegito level not 3. 1 Replie(s)

For Vegito to miss another big feast he must be headed to where XXI is. Surely this will be an interrogation special since Vegito acts as a police of the universe in his own universe. He might weary of how he became so powerful and who he really is.

Whose this is awesome. It looks like some
Years have passed Gohan looks incredibly taller like Android Saga height. But he also looks regretful as he is ashamed of his actions. 1 Replie(s)

Amazing panel goten kun

Just as I thought Gast would be in bad shape. But this also gives Goku insight to be weary of XXI black smoke.

I’m expecting a special chapter soon 1 Replie(s)

He can speak namekian though and taught the language to Bulma not saying he knows much about race but he knows what Kami taught him. And might have been to that place before to visit ship with Kami in past. Goten Kun could easily write popo thinking it was the ship he came from and teach Bulma namekian language to pilot the lost ark similar to like in original only this time it’s Bulma, Krillin, tien, and Yamcha. 1 Replie(s)

I imagine Gohan will be trained and have to fight Saibamen to unleash his battle power to help kill aliens on planets for Frieza. Since raditz doesn’t know about the dragonballs there’s no reason to come back to earth even if he is oblivious to fact the balls are only regular stones after he killed Piccolo.

Mr Popo did teleport with Bulma to kami spaceship so he had to have known its coordinates or been there before in past. So a trip to Namek seems very likely. And without interference since Frieza isn’t triggered by the myth of the dragonballs by Vegeta going to earth.

Actually it should take Raditz and Gohan 1 year to get to where Vegeta and Nappa are.

If they use Kami spaceship they can travel to namek in less time than it takes raditz year trip to where vegeta is.

Goku, Piccolo, and Kami travel to snakeway and cross it for King Kai training. Since I don’t think Kami can linger around the check-in station for months. Goku and Piccolo learn Kaio Ken together but only Goku learns spirit bomb. Actually goku would be maybe even 2x stronger than he normally would in Vegeta fight due to having a training opponent in higher gravity and piccolo would virtually be his equal or close since they were both in the 400s power levels. So piccolo and goku should each be around 16,000 if they train as long as goku did first time. But if they train a a year and the month it took namek spaceship to get to namek they would be even stronger than piccolo when he came to namek after his original training with king Kai. I would say each of them would be in the 100k range. And this piccolo fusing with nail would be stronger than frieza third form but still weaker than his final form. 1 Replie(s)

It would be insane if when the smoke clears Gast is badly injured and barely standing waiting to collapse. How will goten kun demonstrate this next panel page is mysterious but so far he’s done an amazing job.

I assume we are getting another special chapter right after this fight just seems like normal tradition to have one every tournament match in between so far lately.

If IKL absorbs Gast this will be a serious problem since everyone doesn’t know how to deal with Gast already. I wonder if Salgir will allow this to happen. Boosting his stats to absorb Gast who should at least be SSJ2 Vegito level would easily put IKL over lv 3 since IKL is superior to Gast so higher than a 1+1 = 2 scenario. But it’s so sad that Gast is going to suffer from side character battle formula he is only the demonstration before the main hero fights said character. We witnessed it many times in shonen where a side character gets washed only for main hero to handle the rest with him having superior power and having knowledge from the previous fighter who failed.

Great shading here

Gast is in trouble if he doesn’t keep his eyes on those ninja stars because if he gets sliced he can’t afford to spend time regenerating in a trap which works in IKL favor advantage.

This is some incredible shading and I’m liking the design for that arm. Maybe a reptilian dragon type of monster like ozotto from the dragonball Japanese game. But flying ninja stars is pretty insane the artist must’ve been reading / watching Naruto or something lol. 1 Replie(s)

I know this is impossible but he looks like Cell Max with the eyes and unclear body shape

Anyway great panel as always win or lose more lore and secrets are dropping on IKL true power and form

This reminds me of sparkling zero story what ifs where early in game goku doesn’t die against raditz and instead he moves from blast before hit. And trains Gohan with Piccolo. They end up losing because goku never learns Kaio Ken. 1 Replie(s)

I’m kind of glad janemba does show up to stop the universe from being destroyed in a clash between gogeta and broly. But what if this janemba is the same one under IKL control ? It would explain why this janemba is much stronger than the movie version we are used to which would only require above super saiyan 3 in buu saga to beat. Maybe janemba is much stronger due to the time of everything with it being YEARS later and due to the accumulation of evil spirits over the years. Like a cooking pot the longer on the stove the deeper the hotter the broil and juices will be. This could have been one of IKL plots. Perhaps with his wizard stuff he has soul manipulation like a bleach character or something. 1 Replie(s)

Merry Christmas everyone. Since this cell doesn’t have cold or frieza dna he should look totally different and more human. But I can say he probably will still have a tail since he has to be able to absorb and eat the androids for power. If this cell ends up becoming complete he should still be above the level of second form cell but not as strong as full power in cell games cell.” Before he blew himself up. I’m very interested in seeing the power progress of Gast who might be experiencing his own android-cell games arc pretty soon. Where he beats weaker androids then stronger ones and then finally cell.

Thorn is naturally a pacifist so I understand he doesn’t want to start a war since his race are aliens known for peace and knowledge. However he should remember the androids attacking him and Gast without any sorts of provoking and Gast should stop his mistrust dead in its heels. Gast would be more trusting to the earthlings than Thorn. The earthlings are just strange to Thorn. But I wonder if it was android 19 they killed or a weaker model. We also don’t know Giran from dragonball power he could’ve still continued to train a lot of years had passed since early dragonball days I would highly doubt giran is still weaker than roshi. And this Krillin should be the strongest out of them and much stronger than his cell games lv self since this Krillin had to hide and train in discreet. Not having a relaxing life you have no choice but to continue to push passed your limits. Krillin was still able to kick one of the androids and move it. I would reckon Krillin is at least stronger than namek goku before he used super saiyan. 2 Replie(s)

What a dark future. Gohan being killed so young makes sense. The androids specifically Gero knows where Goku house is. Gohan wouldn’t even be able to detect them to flee if he wanted. I imagine Krillin and Roshi abandoned the turtle island in response to Gohan death and the androids attacking a city surely causing a stir in the media news. Maybe tien and Yamaha are also dead with Krillin being the last survivor.

I do however wonder if Gast will just make a huge ki blast and blow them up or is he going to just speed blitz and physically punch and kick them to death ? Regardless “dozens” of androids is a lot that means there is more than 24.

Wow the art here is outstanding especially the scene where gast hand plows through the android chest from
Behind. Very strategical in using namekian abilities, indeed Gast is a seasoned warrior with years of experience by now.

There’s still a lot of pages to go for this special arc to finish if we count the traditional counting of page chapters Cell should appear since a lot of time has passed. But another question is would Bulma still try to invent a Time Machine ? Even without trunks existence would she still try to change the past ?

I don’t think the fatigue factor applies. A fusion should always be a refreshed fusion of the two.

Gas need an academy globe award for this level of acting. I’m glad he’s much stronger had me worried there for a second Sal. Krillin is pulling a Kid Gohan kicks dr gero moment. But man did Krillin get there pretty fast or what ? They must have not been far a part

Looks like our little thorn has grown up and become a fighter capable of moving faster than many Dbz sagas cannot tract. Another amazing page of art I enjoy the shading and design of Thorn as a teenager I presume he is ? His race is very intelligent if not the smartest in the universe. Pretty much treated as the library of space. Thorn being able to outsmart this android who has no data on him is pretty cool. But not just in intelligence but in power and speed as well ? It shows that Thorn has indeed been training under Gast these last 8-9 years. I wonder how strong Thorn would be with a master like Gast he would possibly be the strongest ever from his race and able to fight a frost demon himself. 1 Replie(s)

Again powerscaling is off. There are no absorption models that are stronger than android 16, 17, and 18. It’s even implied Gero decided to make 19 because the androids were too powerful when he relied on pure source and infinite energy. These androids do not have infinite power and must rely on absorbing. Gas should at the very least be around cell second form or perfect cell lv. It’s like saying gast would be weaker than kami piccolo at this point of the year when Gast received a major head start of already being android 16 lv at the fusion during namek arc. Makes no sense for his power to be lesser than it was years ago. 2 Replie(s)

Great artwork.
I really don’t understand the power scaling here tho. Gast himself killed King Cold who is supposed to be around Android 17 and 18 level stated by Piccolo. So it makes no sense for him to struggle with these androids who should be weaker than 17 and 18 due to them being absorption models. He killed Cold 6 years before this special so it makes no sense for his power to still be stagnant if Dbm tournament is to go by he should be experincing a steady increase in every every couple of years, so by now Gast should be Cell Games or early Buu SSJ2 Goku lv. 1 Replie(s)

No one should be able to oppose Gas power at this point unless it’s Cell. In Gas flashback a little time after he fused when he faced Cold Gas was sweating some what when he faced King Cold final form death ball and that form is held in regard to Androids 16 power lv. So I reckon Gas is in that gap between cell second form and final perfect cell after fusion but contiued to train and boost his power to beyond SSJ1 Vegito / Gohan Buu levels 1 Replie(s)

If there’s up to a number 31 then Gero has made at least 11 androids since 19 and himself as 20 but this would probably take years so he must’ve killed the z fighters and made the additional androids after 19 and himself, later. But android 17 and 18 should still exist in this timeline and still show signs of disobedience unless Gero shut them down early.

Ironic this is the year of 772. This is same year of Majin Buu Saga. So Gero has ruled over Earth for 7 years and now you know who is about to come to the planet and look for energy for Majin Buu. Gas is about to experience his own Android Saga and Majin Buu Saga back to back. 1 Replie(s)

Flirting with 18 while his wife bulma is in attendance is crazy work 2 Replie(s)

I don’t think the Namek fusion is a set number of x10. It probably works by power levels from 100k to 1 million for Piccolo on Namek with fusion. But I doubt piccolo got 10 x more powerful after fusing with Kami since he certainly was strong enough to at least fight Android Dr Gero. Who scales above 19 who was taking multiple blows from SSJ Goku sick and SSJ Vegeta. We have already seen that androids are not immune to physical attacks example Imperfect Cell beats 17 to a bloody mess more so in the anime but in manga too I think. So 19 should at least be comparable to low tier SSJ’s. 2 Replie(s)

He can make himself intangible like Janemba as well it seems or perhaps this is a magic spell ? I figured this would be a big Magic battle but how will Gas deal with Magic and H2H fighting ? It’s time for him to pull out some secret technique he learned during the years of spending time with the most smartest alien race to surface.

Marvelous art panels. I’m intrigued that Janemba is stated to not be alive. I guess he is a conglomeration of evil souls. So therefore he himself is a soul entity. But we know in the db verse that even souls can be exterminated stated in Majin Buu Saga when Goku told Vegeta if he died when he was already a ghost in battle he can’t be revived again nor will he go to other world but will cease to exist altogether. So shouldn’t the same principle apply ? Unless we are using the headcanon that Gogeta galaxy duster attack cleansed Janemba soul and a soul cleanser attack is needed to beat Janemba. It would make sense that Gas have a ability for that since he has trained mentally under the smartest race in universe in his universe.

If this was movies scaling Janemba would be chowder lunch. This clearly written with a retcon power. Salagir version must be strong as Vegito, Broly, and Zen Buu. 1 Replie(s)

Been waiting for this for ten years. And IKL identity is Janemba ? Or Janemba works with him ? Idk it just seems kinda illogical for Janemba to be a threat to any of the high tiers in DBM. Janemba was stronger than super saiyan 3 Goku not strong as a fusion between two super saiyans. He should be no stronger than Super Buu absorption Variations.
But maybe Salagir retcon his power.

So the true nature of IKL finally reveals himself. I’ve waited 10+ years for this.

Elder Kai is going to warn everyone about IKL. But this will be a magic battle and I feel Gas has edge.

Namek Magic should be peak in the verse as ancient beings with hundreds to thousands of years worth of culture, magic, and legend. They created the Dragonballs, and have secrets recorded in the Book of Namek of it is truly canon. Or if Salagir decides to adapt

Always thought Namek healing was superior to Senzu Beans.

Gohan and Vegeta don’t fail us hold out till Goku comes at least

Cool Naruto feature in the last panel

The plot continues

Gas has to have the highest peak of Magic I don’t think there’s anything in XXI arsenal that Gas shouldn’t be able to counter since he has already trained under the most smartest aliens in the universe in his own timeline where he killed King Cold.

This will be magical fight since I don’t think XXL will be a physical threat outside of reflection attacks or maybe black goo spells.

Wow what incredible art !

Reminds me of a marvel or dc comic book artist bravo !

Back on track as much as I love the brotherly duo I feel Raditz time is up. Slow walking bad guy only spells disaster. Kakarot is delusional even if they both were super saiyan 2 level they stand no chance. It’s like ssj2 Vegeta Vs kid Buu. And Vegeta only lasted because he was already dead. Now compare that with Raditz and Kakarot. 1 Replie(s)

They are screwed we forget Vegeta hasn’t been in ssj3 that long at all. And he is smart enough to notice the energy consumption time limit he already experienced before when losing to Raichi. Raditz is morning toast and Kakarot will become Vegeta slave.