goten-kun was saying:
Okay, I forgot!^^
Yikes! I'm starting to worry about this story if the author forgot the MOST PIVOTAL PART OF THE FIGHT that's happened so far (sorry Raditz)

Here's, I think, my first or maybe second problem with the colored version. This should've been grayed out, or at least leave as little color as possible.

This just doesn't work for Nappa at all, and Raditz is too sunny. This is supposed to be Gohan remembering it as horrible situations, and also it's a memory, so it shouldn't be full color like so in my honest opinion.

Pizzachu was saying: Salagir thinks Gohan is such a dark and serious character

Yeah, I noticed that only recently. Gohan was never THAT smart and calculating like in DBM. As a matter of fact, he's kind of an idiot when it comes to social interactions, which is very understandable, but also when it comes to his battle smarts. He's a very intelligent person, yeah, and he's very strong for sure. But he's never shown to be like whatever is going on here in DBM.

And yeah, DBS also made him "the smart fighter" which is fine as well has here, because a lot of time has passed and Gohan had time to properly mature. I'm not blaming Salagir on writing Gohan like that, because I really like this take on the character anyway.

Theirs is a room...just full of safes huh? At least three safes high stacked on each other. In a universe full of nothing...so uhhh what do they keep in there?

Doesn't make sense he wasn't using ssj2 from beginning

Trunks isn't some one wbo enjoys battle fighting around in lower form. He's type of guy who fights life death situation and use max possible power to win quickly as possible, like how he killed 17 818 and cell

DrewSaga was saying: Krilltoad is the kind of guy that sees Wile E. Coyote's plans and somehow thinks "good idea".

They are though. Roadrunner just has luck/unluck manipulation.

Okay, this was a dump of information I quite enjoyed. Kakorot wanting to kill something that's like 3 forms stronger than him is also hilarious. I doubt Radditz and Elder Kai are dead though. Radditz should have been on par if not far above South Kai at that point. The power up from old Kai should have been just about complete.

That dragon is badass. But last time it told XXI that he couldn't beat Gast. I wonder what the Dragon will say about Goku.

Last panel doeesn't sound right - I would put it as "You're insufferable, shut up or I'll kill you!".

Ooh, there's a translation discrepancy. Here, he says "I WAS so hungry", but in the french version he says "I AM so hungry". So he is still very hungry.

Brunom was saying: Energomass?
"He has so much energy that his mass increased!" Physics says that energy and mass is the same, and DBM says that ki is also the same, so eating Gast must be the absolute best thing XXI could ever dream of (except eating Vegetto, of course).

I don't know why, but Vegeta fussing at Gohan about her lack of protection gear is freaking killing me. Like, a part of me expects him to pull out his OSHA handbook and start giving her a lecture.

...Was that a real sentence I just wrote?

XXI is coming across as a Teen who just got C--kblocked by their parent coming home early.

Well, there goes Old Kai's plan.

MUI was saying: Nope, XXI doesnt have dragonballs with him.
Are you sure about that? Page 1516 clearly shows him holding a Dragon Ball in his hand, that got turned to stone.

Also, the first panel on page 2110 clearly shows the shape of a dragon. I'll put this in a spoiler tag, just to be sure:

Spoiler, click to show

What lie could he have noticed? I looked back and I did not see anything obviously wrong with what she said.

Now implant him with cancer, he can't die from it and he can't be cured from it.

If Gast cant even defeat Janemba he doesnt deserve a place in the finals. Goku going to be the hero to defeat XXI

Just to give an example. If SSJ Vegito fought Janemba he would defeat him just as easy as Gogeta did in M12, since Gogeta and Vegito are equals.

the moons died more than krillin

Kakarotto wanting to kill humans in any universe vs Raichi wanting to exterminate the Saiyans in every universe.
Who is more xenophobic/genocidal?

ZenBuu was saying: Kakaditz: Gets one single gut punch by Vegeta, because he is clearly holding back and got surprised... (should he scream that into the readers face for people to understand that?)

Readers: that doesn't make any sense, this is so ridiculous, how can he lose so badly against Vegeta, this fusion is such a "jobber", like usual they only make fun of Raditz!!!!1!1!

Are you guys really thinking that Kakaditz is losing here because of one surprise punch to his stomach? Like seriously wtf.

Did you wanted only one panel where Vegeta gets oneshotted and that's it? That's very boring in my opinion. I wanted to see an actual fight as conclusion to U13's story and I'm happy we got one, that's not really that one sided.

This is the first time Vegeta actually connected a punch, before Kakaditz was effortlessly trading blows with Vegeta, even with a smile, not breaking a sweat, while Vegeta takes this very seriously. Not to mention he easily tanked a huge Final Flash and just had some burn marks on him. Both Kakarotto and Raditz would have been dust individually if that hit them.

Its always funny when people immediately jump to conclusions after one page/panel, instead of seeing the whole bigger picture. What if Kakaditz actually kills Vegeta next page? I'm very sure some people would then complain again that this ended way too quickly. And that none of this makes sense, because DBM power scaling is total garbage. Sigh...
So why didn't we have a long drawn out fight between base Vegito and Freeza and Cooler?
The gap between base Vegito and Freeza should unironically be comparable to the gap between Mystic Kakaditz and Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta.
(Though for fun, base Vegito alone in Buu saga is in Zen Buu's words, at least 40 times more powerful than he is at a lowball "your opponent would need to be thousands of times stronger than you to retain conciousness when transformed, minimum 2000 for ssj Vegito, divide by 50 for base and there you have it)

Pulling a "look, the villain isn't dead yet" here would be absolutely idiotic at this point.

And here we have the victory roar.

Von Durmark was saying: I can't believe that the writer seriously made them forget that he's immortal.
yea ngl this is pretty weak writing

why is the purple dressed yellow varga still alive? didnt broly killed him? is piccolo on the right or why is a namekian wearing his clothes (and whearing that necklace, and why would piccolo we right next to broly? by are broly and vegetto fighting as soon as broly breaks the ice? this is so weird

kkk was saying: Rodriog was saying: Gohan have been ban for multiverse for racist tweets on the past
Is retard a racist word? I thought it only means the person is stupid. (I'm not a native speaker)

Mental Retardation is a condition when somebody's brain doesn't develop properly for whatever reason, resulting in often times lower IQ etc. etc. Essentially it's not the person's fault as they have no control over how their brain malfunctioned etc etc. A stupid person would be one who has the ability to learn, has a "normal" functioning brain, yet doesn't. Retard was just slang for that type of person. It has NOTHING to do with race. But in the post 2010's where everything you can possibly say is some form of -ist, -ism, -phobe, or bigot, it all bleeds together and words like racist, and bigot for example, have lost any weight since they're tossed around as buzzwords now.

The more you know!

That said, didn't Gohan call Buu a retard in the original Japanese version of the show? Or was this ad-libbin' lol

Ultron2099 was saying: Kalenz was saying: Now I'd like to know how he observed them all.


You had to know that SOMEONE would answer you:

He used the force.
Please do not double post, you can edit your posts. Rule #9! :)
vwishmwahuul was saying: WukongTheMighty was saying: vwishmwahuul was saying: Did he just freeze time? And Vegetto was already struggling with all the magics present. Also, if he did freeze time, I wonder how long Zen Buu would pretend to be frozen.
You can wonder that forever because Zen Buu got sent home after effectively having no real impact on the plot at all and having everything he did (All the power-ups and whatever, revealing the Ginyu thing to Freeza, etc) amount to practically nothing and is now never coming back, lol.

I know. It was a hypothetical. Also, I’m not willing to count Zen Buu out just yet. Besides, I think he did contribute. In Raiders of the Lost Ark people say that Indiana Jones contributed nothing to the story line. But all the stress and grief he gave the Nazis was why they opened the ark in the desert instead of shipping it to Berlin where it may or may not have been opened safely. I think, at th very least, Zen Buu made that kind of contribution. And I just remembered. He’s part of the reason fat Kai was kicked to the curb,
I contributed more to the story, than you might think! ;D

Your nickel was saying: Seeing more of Pan's courage makes her death hit that much harder
I personally think shouting "YOU ARE NOTHING" to someone who just delivered a heavy blow to one is not courage, more like overconfidence and arrogance, but maybe it's my impression... Goku never did that. More like Vegeta. And Pan's Gohan's. Something I would expect from Son Bra actually.

vwishmwahuul was saying: Did he just freeze time? And Vegetto was already struggling with all the magics present. Also, if he did freeze time, I wonder how long Zen Buu would pretend to be frozen.
You can wonder that forever because Zen Buu got sent home after effectively having no real impact on the plot at all and having everything he did (All the power-ups and whatever, revealing the Ginyu thing to Freeza, etc) amount to practically nothing and is now never coming back, lol.

The viewer was saying: OH. IKL. AKA "I KILL ALL". I get it. Uh oh...However, that would mean that the Frenchman, Salagir, would be making an English play on words here (instead of a French one), which would be the exact same in any language edition of DBM.


WukongTheMighty was saying: Whatever, I guess it's time we get the much expected "Vegetto's rampage", the "Nobody can beat my father, certainly not you." and the "All the universes are in danger!" moment.
God I hope it is, because if it isn't that promises a FIFTH and maybe SIXTH interruption.I very much doubt that.

Yoshi's island indeed :)

Lot's of characters in the last panel, who can cite them all? (not me)

Thanks Beach for giving context explanation so I can put a DB-before-DBZ scene as a flashback....

"Strongest in the universe", #1

obserwator was saying: There will be changes in plot of DB, or just puns, dad jokes
Hey, i resent the "dad jokes" ;p
Sometimes, the story will change, and also there are two chapters which aren't related to DBZ.

Who's that on the upper left panel? I don't recognize him.

Bardock: Raditz? is that you!?

Raditz: Yes Father

Bardock: dude your dead?

Raditz: yes we are in a place between the living and the dead I am the ghost of Freeza Day Past Now

brolyhater was saying: How does a fusion of Goku and Vegeta not understand that the rivalry of Goku and Vegeta was what pushed them to get stronger

Subpar writing? The whole "Vegeta got jealous too" was Cell's saga. If anyone brings up the "ohh DBZ Vegetto is 10 years ago, character has grown since then" then Cell saga Vegeta is 17 years ago and you fellas are bringing that up lol.

Is a fanfic so anything is fair game I suppose when it comes to portrayal of characters. Doesn't mean certain things don't make a lot of sense based on the material it is based off.

Okay that sounds reasonable that Jiren would wanna keep up for the sake of being a fighter who wants to become the best...but Goku and his allies are good people. He should know that already, otherwise he would no longer exist.

Though there is Frieza...I don't blame Jiren for that though I am not sure Jiren knows how powerful Frieza's gotten. And then there is Broly and of course, Gohan. Goku and Vegeta are like 4th and 5th Strongest among mortals, unknown where Beerus stands though I do recall that Broly > Beerus. Idk if Gohan or Frieza are stronger or weaker than Broly or Beerus.

How strong is Piccolo though? SSJB level? Or higher?

I am impressed by Jiren's ability to sense energy from another universe though. That's crazy.

PrinceOfTheHood was saying: DrewSaga was saying: Jeez Jiren, I don't think seeking power is gonna bring you true happiness nor the "truth" for that matter.


He is just the most extreme form of : I want to possess Strength SO GREAT that i can "always" protect everyone i can from any Evildoer possible - kind of Person.


His "Traumata" he had from his Past, with his Village destroyed or so - reminds me a tiny little bit of Goblin Slayer.


Jiren is firmly set on his Path, giving his all and his best so that this crap can never happen again under his watch. To reach his Goal, he is willing to do almost everything. He surely denies and refuses to go down a villainous Path, though.

I'd say he would go down a villainous path if it benefited him. Universe 11 is just justice-oriented. The strongest people are good guys, superheroes so he follows in their footsteps. Even when exposed to the multiverse the Universe 7 people are mostly good guys. So for him, based on empirical evidence, good is strength and evil is weakness.

vwishmwahuul was saying: Did he fall into water or get smashed into goop? I can’t really tell.
Baba's place is in the middle of a lake/ a body of water. I wouldn't blame you for not knowing cause you didn't watch the OG DB, but Super ? Frieza and Goku, assassins, Hakai ball hidden under the water ?

Finally some progress in the fight. It seems even vegeta was getting bored of the repetetive mirror attack panels and became complacent. Goku prayed upon this complacency and broke his wrist! However I still wanna know how they have enough energy to stay in this transformation!!!!

kkk was saying: vwishmwahuul was saying: You're Name was saying: Okaaaaay what


So he didn't really changed deep down after the tournament?
Was that speech just facade?

Could just be an outburst. Toppo and Jiren may be sworn allies but I can see them not having the best relationship outside of work. Also, is this after the tournament or a past event? I know they mentioned universe 7 but it seems like not knowing about other universes was something unique to 7. And during the tournament it was clear that Belmond had already selected him
If this comic follows chronological order, then this is after Gohan got his Blanco (or Beast) form, which is after the Tournament of Power.

I think I remember writing "meanwhile in Universe 11" in the transition page.