This is such a beautiful page!

Those impacts look so good. Great work!

They're storage lockers for personal valuables like jewelry, cash, clothes, etc. You can often find them at the gym or in schools.

I don't think he overstepped at all. Old Kai is meddling in multiversal affairs and screwing with the tournament to sabotage another competitor. Yeah, sure, you could argue that he shouldn't hit Old Kai... but we have no idea how the ritual works other than Old Kai needing concentration. It's very possible he just broke Old Kai's concentration in the simplest way. It's not like he killed him.





This isn't a canon story... but it was hinted at about four or five times in the setup to these pages. Old Kai mentions a mental block and it's reinforced.




He does have to lay down and die. That's his penance. You don't get to just go "oh, I'm a good guy now" and invalidate the hundreds, thousands, or millions you've killed. Vegeta still went to hell after he became a family man. Old Kai doesn't want Raditz to get away with being an evil dink, but he does want to make sure Vegeta doesn't get away with it either. The best way to do that is have Raditz kill Vegeta... after he does so, he can't turn his power on anyone else, either.

Honestly, I'm a little confused as to why people are surprised by any of this. Old Kai wasn't doing this out of the goodness of his heart. He wanted to turn Raditz against evil-doers without risking harm to himself or others who don't deserve it. This is like the perfect way to do that. Lying to a literally genocidal maniac doesn't make you evil, nor does breaking the rules, and neither does punishing a rulebreaker. I don't feel like anyone is out of bounds here considering even U9 is seemingly okay with how this went. 1 Replie(s)

He's based on arthropods, which would include a few different insects with stingers. This part of his anatomy was not gleaned from Frieza/Cold specifically. Though this was answered a page or two ago by the artist in the top comment if you want some more detail. 1 Replie(s)

It gave a redesigned color palette for Cell. The artist is saying that he did not use elements of the Super Hero design in his own design.




Yes, he died of the heart disease. It's mentioned in the previous chapter.

Yes, he mostly journeys around and solves problems while looking for a solution to his problem. He came to Earth for a vacation.

Gohan has historically never liked fighting. Even the two Gohan versions who came to the tournament only came as spectators. I would assume Vegeta is dead, but it hasn't been covered yet.

Not all Namekians know how to make a dragon and the only way to ensure their safety was to merge together into one form. This included the magicians, which is why Gast also has a firm mastery of magic.

Piccolo absorbing Kami took him from being below a Super Saiyan to being equal to Android 17. Piccolo absorbing Nail made him strong enough to fight Third Form Frieza. He more than doubled in power from each absorption. The power is not additive, so each Namek does not just add their power together. Absorbing all of the warriors and spellcasters on the planet made him many, many, many times stronger than a normal Namekian would have been. Don't forget that Nail WAS actually very strong — he was on par with the Ginyu Force, who were the strongest of Frieza's army at the time. It's like saying a musket isn't all that strong. True in 2025, but when they were important they were literally strong enough to change the history of the world and they're still strong enough to be dangerous to a random human bystander.

They probably pasted the direct translation and forgot to adjust the wording; if I'm understanding it properly they mean to say:
"You're underestimating us a little, but okay! We'll take the big fat one!"

Funnily enough they could have probably still just said "we'll take the gross lard!"

It's a "bee" sound in both languages. If you google search it, it produces the Chinese result first, but it's a shared sound. In either case it would be "bì."

Others already commented on the "mass produced" and "absorption type" angle, but I think it's worth noting that Krillin was able to kill one of them in the past. We saw that with a big enough power gap that even the Kienzan won't work, so we can pretty safely assume that these Androids aren't as strong as say 17 or 18. If we wager they're about on par with 19, who Goku was thrashing pretty comfortably, then I'd accept an entry level Super Saiyan could wreck these guys.

Considering what they did to Gast when he arrived, it's pretty reasonable to assume that "Chicken" probably didn't want to start a fight on his own against Gero's forces, especially since one good grapple pretty much ends the fight and he has no idea how many trump cards Gero might be hiding. 1 Replie(s)

We love to see old Dabura getting a dub here and there.

To be honest, I'm not sure comparing base power levels is a good idea here for two reasons. Even ignoring the fact that she's excited, not terrified:

1.) Base Gohan in Buu Saga is probably stronger than Base Vegeta in Cell Saga, yes, but that matters little. We have no idea how strong the Base Humans are without Kaioken, only that Kaioken doesn't make them strong enough to trump a Super Saiyan when they're evenly matched in base form. We know that Krillin is weaker than Hirudegarn, even in his maximum Kaioken, and that Videl's maximum power is capable of defeating a Cell Jr (if it's opened up). We do not know what any character's maximum Kaioken is, but they do announce when they go to their maximum power. We do know that Videl's second use of Kaioken in this fight puts her below a Kaioshin.

2.) Cold is at A16's level in his immediate final form, not his full power fourth form. We have no idea how strong his maximum power is, but Videl is pretty cognizant of the fact that she's screwed if he powers up as far as she knows Frost Demons can. We do not know if she is accounting for Cooler's 5th form or assuming he can only max out his fourth form. Cold in his fourth form is enough to overwhelm SSJ Bardock, who is probably also weaker than Videl at her maximum Kaioken considering that she was able to kill a Cell Jr with a lot of difficulty.

So we know a few things:

Gohan >> MAX COLD > Videl (MAX) >= Majin Cell Jr (Cell Games) > Super Trunks > Super Vegeta > SSJ Bardock > Third Form Cold.

We don't know where fourth form Cold slots in or where his enhanced forms put him, but her base form must be pretty powerful if a Kaioken of undetermined level puts her somewhere in the ballpark above SSJ1 but below SSJ2. She's definitely weaker than someone like Cell Games Gohan, but she would at MINIMUM, even if lowballing her, drive someone like Trunks to the brink. I would just guess that most people who have dealt with Cooler know that Frost Demons have more forms to contend with, and that the form Cold is showing here is at most 1% of his power.

Weird comment. The point wasn't that the attack could not have killed Broly. The point was that the attack needed to hit. Bruuly was able to "maintain control" long enough to guarantee the hit, meaning that Broly, a human with at least some survival instinct, would not move out of the way or otherwise find a way to overpower the attack.

Second, the attack is probably magical in nature. It purifies souls and seems like it could be pretty easily overwhelmed, destroyed, or blocked if the defender is ready. The raw power of the attack is, again, just not the point.

A lot of people think Gogeta landing a hit is showing off. Broly might be invulnerable, but he also has defensive techniques. We saw him use one a few pages ago. Just throwing out your strongest attack isn't a good way to win a battle against an opponent who knows to defend against it, and Gogeta's probably not strong enough to completely overwhelm Broly in one go like Vegito. He has to create an opening and then exploit that opening.

Similarly, I would assume if they defuse inside of Buu that they can't refuse inside of Buu, but...

According to Old Kai, the fight is already shattering the boundaries of reality. There's a good chance any attack strong enough to kill Broly fired by a BuuGeta would destroy reality too. Broly screaming and powering up was enough to crack the barrier and we've seen a few attacks deepen those cracks. Just blowing him up at this point isn't playing for a win, it's playing for a draw... and a draw is a loss, because Broly doesn't care if he exists or not and they do care if they exist. 1 Replie(s)

Saike my boy!

Love this little ditz.

We are being SPOILED with the beautiful art this chapter. Plus, it looks like Gast is starting to follow Bra's "advice," which is good... gonna have to see what his opponent is doing while this transpires!

This is really cool! Great idea and cool implementation.

People confused as to why Bulma isn't silencing Trunks are missing a key fact of this scene:

MANY people are crying and screaming around them. One baby crying in the city doesn't mean much to Android 18. She's not going to hear Trunks crying and go "OH THAT'S THE BABY GOHAN IS AFTER, I HAVE TO KILL THAT KID FIRST." She has no idea the kid is important because the character in the narrative has no meta-knowledge. She's also watching the race... so she might pick out the situation, she might not. Her not immediately nuking that building because a kid is crying inside of it is NOT a glaring plothole. 1 Replie(s)

Lot of people getting really mad seeing Gohan hit his breaking point. He's a teenager (if not younger). It would be super weird if he were just like his dad and never once gave up hope. Would bet dollars to doughnuts that Gohan gets inspired to live by Trunks and Bulma. Don't forget this is the same character that, in the special, went out to fight a doomed battle knowing he would probably die anyway.

It's super reasonable for Gohan to feel hopeless and helpless here. Especially when he's basically a child. 2 Replie(s)

YO IT'S TAMBO

Get him, lil buddy.

I'm kinda hoping it's Uub!

What? I'k'l is trying to strand them there and just tried to kill them all. Yamcha was trying to have a conversation and the little fella went off about stranding them all in a limitless void universe with no way home. Yamcha tried three or four times to stop him nonlethally and every time I'k'l moved the goalposts to screw them over in another way. It doesn't matter how noble your intentions are if your endgoal makes things worse for everyone in every universe.

Yamcha is an android. He doesn't age.

Tien looks normal for his age.

Krillin only looks older because he has his master's beard. If you shaved his face he wouldn't look that old.

Bulma probably doesn't try to make herself look younger, hence why she looks "older." She seems similar in age to her future self.

His power isn't physical. He stops time and shatters you because you literally can't fight back. 1 Replie(s)

Important to remember that it doesn't seem like he was actually hurt by the attack. His clothes are dirtied, but that might be due to him tunneling underground to avoid detection. He also seems to be indicating that his full power might put them in danger — or that he can't cut loose while worrying about dead weight.

I'm not sure how strong this Yamcha is, but there's a lot of game left to play and he seems used to playing out extra innings. 1 Replie(s)

I see a lot of people saying that A17 doesn't know he's weaker than Vegeta.

He definitely does.

Android 17 knows he's weaker than he should be, as this was brought up a handful of times. He also got absolutely put in his place in the tournament. I don't think he's entertaining ideas of grandeur, he's just stoked he gets to cheap shot a bunch of cocky Saiyans who constantly think themselves better than everyone. He is pretty immature and does not realize how easily the shoe could be on the other foot, which is a constant character trait for C17/C18. That's why it's so easy for Yamcha to bait him into attacking on their side: he's basically a teenage boy and not all that hard to manipulate.

Loving the extra pages here. Really enjoying the fight!

I don't think 10-12 year olds are the most logical beings on the planet, man. If you tell a kid not to touch a burner on the stove because it's hot, they're still going to touch it like 10/10 times. 1 Replie(s)

That poor child is being one shotted, isn't it?

Saiyans like fighting. Even if Vegeta kills them and they have to be brought back to life, they get to fight other people that they KNOW they dislike and want to punch, like Frieza. It's important to remember that in their universe the strongest threats that existed (and most importantly that they knew about) were Frieza's family and the associated armies, all of which they could pretty handily destroy. Raditz may somehow be the third or fourth strongest fighter in his universe assuming Cell and the Androids never came to be in any form. Also, they get to punch Vegeta without dying for good, even if he kicks the crud out of them for it.

Yup. They did in the original Dragon Ball too. Piano, Tambourine, and Drum all wore shoes. Cymbal didn't, though, because he was a dragon.

Reading this page made me wonder.

Do you guys think we'll eventually get a small 4-5 page special describing the wishes each universe would make? Some universes, like Frieza's and the Heloites, have pretty straightforward wishes. Others, like Universe 9 and I'k'l's universe, are more vague. I'm really not sure what the humans would want or if they're just there to have fun. They definitely aren't stoked to be dealing with Saiyans. Raichi's wish is probably the eradication of all Saiyans. Android 17 and 18 probably wanted more humans to kill? Not really sure. 1 Replie(s)

A lot of people are confused as to why we're seeing this... but I'm not.

It's a Dragonball fan manga. I want to see Dragonball. I don't really care if it's fighting or character exploration, so I love stuff like this because it's more Dragonball. Can't wait to see where this chapter goes!

It's true that Trunks probably couldn't bring them back even if he won... but he can lay the groundwork to do so, since there are canonical ways to buff the dragonballs. This is a good chance for Trunks to cut loose a little bit and relax, while also pursuing what he sees to be a good cause. Even if he loses, he knows he and Bulma will EVENTUALLY get to Namek, where they can EVENTUALLY get a new guardian for Earth.

It's the good ending, Charlie Brown!

This is adorable.

Love this for Bra. Also, love this for Pan. She gets to face her father's anger in herself and start to overcome it, avoiding any hypocrisy and keeping her friend. They're sweethearts.

It's important to remember that a lot of Bra's motivation is pushed onto her. This is the first time we see her do something that isn't out of fear or overconfidence. Loving her growth and hope we get a longer conversation with these two.

This is massive character development for Bra.

She pictured this fight six ways from Sunday in her head. She might be able to win... but she just doesn't want to fight anymore. The words from Pan and the memory of what just happened are clearly roiling in her head here.

This is by far one of the coolest fights I've ever read. It's awesome to see how they perceive combat. Additionally, this humanizes Bra a ton — she isn't some wild lunatic under normal circumstances. She's genuinely trying to reason out what'll happen and find her best way forward. Total contrast to the Majinized version we saw a few chapters ago.

Nice!

It's one of those heist sequences from a movie. He's "planning the heist" and we're seeing the result as he narrates it.

No worries, brother. We are all excited to see the story you are telling. :)

I think the implication is that King Piccolo knows Bardock can see the future. Bardock did at one point mention seeing Cold's defeat during their battle, on Page 796. It's less about ki sensing and more about Bardock being able to see incoming threats. 1 Replie(s)

Loving this so far. Korin is such an unassuming little pseudo-deity. Love him.

The chapter featuring the Androids showcases why this happens on Page 1374. Kami refuses Piccolo's merger because the world won't be destroyed: it will just be hurt, and there is no guarantee even of that. Here, Kami understands 100% that the world WILL be wiped clean of life if he doesn't comply. There's no reason for him to object to his only chance at saving it. As others have pointed out, he probably knows he can change Piccolo from the inside over time, and that Piccolo will try to rule the Earth instead of destroying it.

Meanwhile, the Saiyans will 100% destroy all life on Earth and then sell it, as they told him a few pages ago. Without Piccolo, there's no way for Kami to stop that.

Likewise, in DBZ, there is some deliberation... because there is the chance that they can succeed without the fusion. Had Piccolo not fused there, it's hard to tell what way things would have gone without a shutdown remote.

Here, if Kami does not fuse, it's not hard at all to tell how things will go. They will all die.

I am BEYOND stoked to see this chapter!

You can click in the top right of the page.



Top right has a bright white "TOGGLE SMOKE" text and an "X" to exit it.

I love that the humans aren't afraid of Vegeta here. They've seen his power first hand and aren't backing down from his temper.

I am absolutely loving this. Kakarot straight up biting into a haunch of meat and Gohan being so eager to help is honestly precious.

What are you, a first year English major? Dialogue doesn't need to follow traditional syntax.

"it looks bad" is not constructive. it's just criticism and it's not legitimate criticism. you can't just say something is bad without saying why — that's not criticism, that's derision.

The art is heavily stylized. If you don't like it, feel free to skip the special. Others here do like it and enjoy the direction.

Bojack knowing about the trap makes the upcoming karma rush he's about to get that much more pleasant. 1 Replie(s)

I'm going to remind everybody that Future Trunks, Vegeta's son, was using the enhanced version of USSJ in very short bursts to preserve speed and stamina. Who wants to bet money that Vegeta's technique here is going to be similar? He probably uses SSJ3 in very short bursts, and instead of mastering the form, has mastered the actual act of transforming — just like his son.

It's like Tien's multiform, as we saw him do in the anime. He can create these doppelgangers and they are able to move and attack... but Vegeta could manage to kill just the one with the core and they would all disappear.



He's clearly holding back. He wasn't bothered at all by getting chopped into bits and is smiling while he plays with Vegeta. The indicators are already there.
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Whether or not this actually relates to Slug, I'm actually digging the Namekian sidestory so far. Lore is always nice! Plus, it's a good break from the tournament and a good way to see consistent updates.

We got a rough glimpse of this with the last Broly special. It mentions that, in most universes where Broly returned a third time, the heroes won or their sacrifices killed Broly. Broly from U20 was just the darkest possible timeline, in a sense.

Loving this special so far.

There are going to be people on this page complaining about Uub's power up being an ass pull again... when this has been foreshadowed for several hundred pages and several DOZEN chapters. There is also a clear set of reasons why characters like Uub, Goku, and Gotenks were removed from the situation during the Babidi fiasco — and this is one of them. Their power to this point has been unknown and, at times, magical.

To remind the "asspull crowd" why this is not an asspull, let's look at some things. Why was Gohan left behind and why were the others removed from the arena?

Gohan was not a threat to Babidi because he does not consider Gohan a fighter and in his timeline Gohan probably wasn't much of one. Even when he shook with rage, Babidi understood that Bra (who WAS a fighter) shared the same inherent potential, with more exploitable habits.

Why remove the fighters who were removed?

Royal Vegeta... is a Super Saiyan 3. He has more than enough power, even without control, to confront a character like Fat Buu and destroy him utterly. We saw him shred through multiple Super Saiyan level opponents with about the same ease as Bra. Unlike Gohan, Royal Vegeta seems to train a decent amount and is almost 100% vastly superior to a character like Cell... who was pretty even with Gohan.

Canon Vegeta is canon Vegeta. Even if Bra is stronger than he is, Babidi knows he cannot be controlled and is a massive threat. He would rather not take his chances with any Vegetas, as he said himself earlier in the tournament.

Vegito is definitely stronger than Bra, and Babidi does not want to deal with that until he has to. Possibly never, if he can help it. Get the dragonballs, then worry about Vegito.

Goku is Goku. Babidi knows that Goku is powerful, and has obviously dealt with a Goku of his own. Never count Goku out. He will always find some way to fight back, until the bitter end. That's the protagonist in him. He removes Goku because Goku is almost undoubtedly stronger than Kakarot, who Babidi knows is weaker than Royal Vegeta.

With the obvious ones out of the way, we look at the less obvious choices — and finally get to the point of why Uub's power is not an asspull.

Gotenks gets removed because he is demonstrably capable of SSJ3. He is about on the same "threat level" as Royal Vegeta. Having two of Gotenks around to support Gohan, Vegeta, and Goku would be a nightmare to deal with. Having those two fusions around is just too annoying when he has to micromanage a battlefield and already knows that some characters may resist him (like Cell ends up doing). He needs to keep the field stacked in the favor of his trump card, Bra.

Finally, we have come to Uub.

Uub is Goku's student. He is an absolute unknown... beyond the fact that he is possibly magical (to an unknown degree), at least as strong as Fat Buu with a "well kept Kaioken" of unknown level. We know that Kaioken, when used beyond its base level, is clearly stated. Uub proves himself Fat Buu's equal with a basic Kaioken, and were he willing to go further, could have possibly destroyed him at the cost of his own body. We, the viewer, know that Uub is willing to do this (he sacrifices himself to knock Broly off balance at an age younger than what we see here). The reason Babidi removes Uub is because he, like us, does not have a proper frame of reference for what Uub is capable of. We see a younger Uub use "Maximum Kaioken" in earlier pages to disrupt an otherwise unstoppable Broly... and we cannot assume he has gotten no stronger since then.

Uub, at his peak power several years before the start of the tournament, has demonstrated a willingness and capacity to exceed his own limits... and the reason this is relevant is because he is Goku's successor. It would make zero sense for Salagir to make Uub weaker than Goku forever. People who think this form is an asspull are ignoring the fact that Uub has been training nonstop with the strongest man in his universe since he was a child. Every time we see Uub on the page, he has been pushing his limits or trying to exceed them. This power is not unexpected and it is not new to us, the viewer, even if it is new to Goku.

This is no more an "ass pull" than Gohan's rage boosts were. It has been foreshadowed for as long as we've seen Uub. His arc is that he will one day surpass Goku, and whether that day is today or not, we know that it is something he has worked for. It's unfair of any reader to assume that Uub has not worked for this form... or otherwise been granted the inspiration for it several hundred pages ago, when he was visited by Zen Buu, who has all of Goku's knowledge in his head.

The student is trying his best to surpass the master.

Don't discredit that. 3 Replie(s)

How is any technique from a character we've seen fight TWICE an ass pull? This has been foreshadowed so hard across the last thousand pages that every single page with Uub on it has a comment wondering what this technique was going to be.

People complaining about the possibility of the student surpassing the master here is confusing to me. If Uub wins, that's... exactly what Goku himself would want. Having someone defeat him only makes him more excited to fight that person, and Uub learning new techniques from a multiversal tournament is probably part of the reason Goku brought him along in the first place. What is this tournament for their universe other than a safe chance for growth?

If Uub does manage to win this, it would also follow a trend set by Salagir earlier on in the narrative — Vegito lost to his opponent too, despite being the favorite to win the whole thing... but Bra goes onward, as the inheritor of her father's mantle whether he approves of her or not. If Uub wins here, that sets us up for a chance at seeing something magnificent: a healthier Bra who could find a healthy rival in Uub, who has inherited his master's countenance.

Goku/Vegeta and Vegito are meant to contrast each other narratively here. Goku and Vegeta are healthy mentors to their kids and students. They are more aware of what those students want, and what those students can handle.

The issue with fusion is that it follows a Shonen philosophy that we've seen in other media before: power does not make you better, it amplifies who you already are. Vegito is massively more powerful than Goku and Vegeta, but his amplified power brings with it the amplification of their flaws. Restlessness, irritability, obsession... things that were honed out over a decade of peace have only had time to grow within him.

He passed those traits onto his student, Bra, and we saw how that turned out. There's a reason a lot of readers don't like Bra — she isn't meant to start out likeable and what happened to her isn't meant to make her immediately liked.

Instead, we're supposed to see her failings as an extension of Vegito's failings... and realize that, yes, Bra is sort of a terrible person... but she's a terrible person who would not be so terrible without her father bearing down on her. Without his influence, she would be, quite literally, a different person... and maybe learning that he isn't the end-all-be-all of power is enough to help her overcome that and work toward a better personhood in her own universe. 3 Replie(s)

Name a more iconic duo than new facebook friends and pyramid schemes.

I'll wait.

Ginyu's been the one in the body for a while. Cold is dead, if I remember right — killed on page 1318.



Goku is actually younger than Kakarot. A year in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber... and seven years spent dead... makes a net six year difference. Kakarot might just be younger because he's benefitting from the technology left behind by Frieza's empire or cryogenics of some kind during travel in pods.




Kakarot's a masochist because he presumably gets a Zenkai from every one of those "near death" experiences. He's also, presumably, unlocked Super Saiyan 2 now, which makes him a lot stronger than before. He's still not on par with his version of Vegeta, but he's getting there.
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I'm interested to see where this goes. Glad to see DBM branching out to include other fanworks!

It's important to remember that, even if the Vargas did find the universes where Buu got off scot free (of which there are presumably many), they would have no reason to bring him to the tournament, because either...

A.) That universe is identical to the canon universe. No one is fused with Buu anymore because, as he promised, he let them go. Everyone is alive because of the Namekian Dragonballs, presumably.

B.) Buu is stuck as Ultra Buu... who is a weaker version of Zen Buu. No reason to bring him along, though he'd probably want to.

The point of this special is that it's a universe where EVERYTHING went wrong. Broly arrives undetected because there is a universe where he didn't. Everyone gets bodied in the fight because there is a universe where they managed to blast him into the sun. Buu didn't go all out from the start because there is a universe where he did. Buu does not escape the wormhole because there is a universe where he did. Broly survives because there is a universe (probably many) where he dies.

This universe is literally the worst possible outcome. There are MANY universes where things go well. This is basically a perfect example of the multiverse theory. I'm not sure why everyone is acting like this is a twist or like this is so unbelievable when the entire premise of this comic is "little changes to events add up."

Of course the main characters make mistakes... they didn't in every single universe, as noted by this page... but they did here, because it's a "worst case scenario" universe.

Salagir confirmed on the page prior to this one that this character just bears a passing resemblance to Woljack. It isn't the same character. 1 Replie(s)

Look, to be fair, even if the carbonite weren't in play...

Most Saiyans are absolute idiots when faced with pride. Bra took the bait against Cold/Ginyu. Worth a shot to fight her on "even" ground, even if the carbonite weren't on the field. Looks like she's going all in with the hope that Bra doesn't notice the carbonite until it's too late. Very possible this is what brings her down. Her pride, whether she took the bait or not, is definitely going to be what gets her killed.

Do we know anything about the status of the U9 fighters right now? Half of the arena was wiped out, but I don't remember if it's the half they were in or not. Something tells me that U9 is going to be the thing that tips this battle... but they could just as easily elect to stay out of things for now. They do seem to like doing their own thing.

Flashing back to that moment a few chapters ago when everyone was complaining about how Bra has such a galaxy sized brain that she can accurately guess how long Babidi would be able to breathe for. Glad to know I was on the nose about her guesswork.

Also, cool shot showing how decimated the arena is. Babidi's little rebellion's taken quite a toll on things. I wonder if he had a plan for when Vegito and the others inevitably came back.

So these lore pages confirm a divergence point for U9, which is awesome. U9 is basically "the universe without Kakarot," and shows that the humans could have gotten by without him. We also know that Raichi, upon hearing of the Saiyan race's destruction, petered out over time.

We also have confirmation that we'll see more U3 chapters! I'm pretty stoked for that. The U9 stuff that's sure to eventually come and the U3 stuff up ahead will be awesome. 1 Replie(s)

I think this is in the "destructive future" category. They probably did something along the lines of what Zamasu wanted to do; destroy any species that would perpetuate violence in the future and lead to a darker universe. Since Vegeta returns for the tournament, it's likely that they just "taught him a lesson."

Awesome mini-comic pages lately, though. Specification like this is awesome. Between this and the immortality page, I'm loving it.

So everyone saying he ISN'T immortal is going to stop arguing now? Dude got a beam through the chest. Normal people, even Saiyans, don't tend to survive that without some intense regeneration. He probably got a wish on the dragonballs after killing Bulma.

Realistically, though, there isn't another reason for Vegeta to keep Kakarot around after obtaining the Super Saiyan state and killing Cold/Cooler. At that point, Kakarot is the only one who can dare to oppose him... so it makes more sense just to kill him, like he intended to here. The alternative is that he already knows, but then he'd probably take Kakarot's body instead of letting the goon take it. 3 Replie(s)

Glad someone else is seeing this.

Everyone commenting about how she "can't possibly know" how much Oxygen Babidi has left is ignoring one key fact: she's literally guessing. She doesn't know. The point is that she's acting rashly and that Babidi is worried. She has no concrete idea beyond her own guess and past experiences being stuck in similar situations. She literally had a fight in outer space with a ki barrier on her earlier in the comic (see chapter 13, pg. 273). It may not be the exact same situation, but it's similar enough that she can make a very sloppy guesstimate that's off enough to worry Babidi.

Regarding her potential, it's likely that canon Bra has the potential to be very strong herself... just like Gohan, Goten, and Trunks do. Gohan was the first one to awaken SSJ2, and had a potential that vastly surpassed his father's if he'd only have dedicated himself to training. The same is true of Goten, Trunks, and Bra... but two of those three characters follow in Gohan's footsteps and don't care much about fighting.

Vegetto's Bra, by contrast, lives a very spartan life. Fighting is all she really knows and all she cares about. She doesn't lack for desire and as a consequence doesn't lack for power.