I'd just like to say for the record. Not one bit of this is good. Not one bit of this is "aN aMAZiNG twISt!"

All Salagir did was make us hate bra, and not in the right way. Her Character is just straight up bad. I shouldn't even have to go into depth to people why. It's so painfully obvious.

You can hate a character without a character being bad. But this...this is just.....like the perfect descriptor, the perfect word, bad.

My newest number one reason is this...

With no build-up, no clues, no nothing, they revealed all of sudden that Bra was abused by Vegetto. This causes a million problems.

One. It's meaningless. If there is no build up, if there is no clues, if its just out of the blue like "oH bTw sHe was sLappEd and HIT By dADDy VegETABLES!". That's considered horrible storytelling.
Two. There were no clues. This means she didn't have an behaviors or scarcity like she was abused by Vegetto. Therefore it doesn't allow the viewer to connect with the character if she hasn't acted like she's been abused.

Don't say bullshit like "hoW WoUld You bE ABLe TO Tell IF soMEoNE Is aBUsED! you Can'T tell IF SoMEonE iS!"

Yes you can. People have behaviors that were caused by their abuser, It's quite obvious, use yer common sense and plus to the fact an actual person abused wouldn't be so "open".

Three. Where in the world where you'd get the idea that Vegetto would be abusive? There's no possible way. Vegeta by that point in time, had minor malicious intent, and he despite what may he have displayed, he does infact care for his children. Goku doesn't count either, Goku has no malicious intent, plus to the fact the Goku is a bad father meme IS NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. It's merely a joke, and while Goku can't provide fatherly traits, he's kinda of like a big brother to his children.

So there's no possibility of Vegetto being abusive.

Don't say "Well it's fanfiction" That's merely the most retarded excuse you can use. (Admins, I'm not calling them retarded. I'm saying if that the excuse is retarded. Just for the record. So therefore I'm not calling the names or anything.)

Don't say "WElL pOTara fUsIon PRobaBly InCreAseD THE mAlicioUS iNtenT" or "bUt VeGEtTo iSn'T Goku or VEgeTA" That's also misleading.

Potara/Fusion Dance creates a new being from two beings. The fusion is essentially created from two different people. So their personalities, appearance, etc, is all based off of the two fusees.

And when I say based off of it I MEAN DEEPLY BASED OFF OF It. so not somewhat based off where it can add new stuff to the personality or appearance, that's just dumb especially without GREAT reason.

Which is also why I say if a Male and Female fused, it wouldn't create a Hermaphrodite or whatever its called, It'd simplify the process(Like Akira Toriyama simplifies alot of things), by whoever is seemingly more dominant, So it'd be either, or. Akira Toriyama is known for simplify things out of convenience, (So he doesn't always simplify things when its needed but simplify it when he needs it to be.)

That's a topic for another day though. Something not related to the topic at hand.


So sad case is this is quite mediocre, Asura's art is amazing, and Salagir can do better but he's being completely lazy.




So what you're saying is. You won't change your script, simply because in two(possibly more) languages can't have a better word? Sorry bud, but you could at the very least change it for the English script.

Also Bra breaking free from it sounds very far fetch'd. From what I've gathered, before this page, it seemed like she was about to just go Psycho mode not really a realization moment.
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That's alot of dialogue for one bubble, can't you be more direct to the point? 1 Replie(s)

This page is kinda like some naruto garbage. U16!Bra should just lose her sanity, it'd make more sense. There's no coming back

U16 Is gonna go insane. 1 Replie(s)

Hmm, I see. Yeah that's probably the best way to get into U16's skin.

Thank you! You have no idea how hard I've tried explaining that to people.

No one gets that Goku being a bad dad is just purely joke. 1 Replie(s)

It won't work. But It was a great plan and interesting to see. Maybe Gohan will at least give her a bit of a cut? Ya know, handicap her AT LEAST pls....I'll literally beg if I have to.



Please do not give them Minicomic ideas xD.. Seriously I wouldn't be surprised if they made a minicomic where "None of this happened" ending happened.

....That was funny...NGL.

Wont work, but the distracting part is working. Good Job Buu. Keep going, don't let Bra completely destroy you...at least yet.

Finally the plot moves forward. Now I'm interested again

I actually agree with this somewhat. However I also agree that this has been dragged out too long.

I don't mind a bit of dragging it out cause DBZ is known for that. In fact the original run of the anime itself had sagas almost as long as this.

They dragged the shit out of it but the reason I was fine with it was cause we were getting 24 minute episodes which covered a lot more per week than three pages.


I believe Salagir should increase his pacing a bit, but at this point for right now, it should just stay the same. Cause I have a feeling a lot of things are about to change. I don't want him to rush it though, so I'd rather keep the same place

I also retract one of my earlier statements from pages ago mentioning that this story is flawed and shit.

I went over reading the whole entirety of db again and I realized its slot better than that. I honestly don't know what I was thinking when I wrote that. I was half asleep at the time so I guess that'll teach me to be fully awake to write comments.






This is actually a good sounding option.






I get the feeling that you posted that mainly cause of my previous deleted comment. (I'm not saying others didn't insult others but clearly mine was more obvious)



All that aside. I also realized while Bra having this much power is stupid, it's also realistic. She was the born child of a fusion, who which I might add shouldn't have been so powerful in Z (too long to explain why but he was way too OP. But who cares xD), and not to mention Vegetto had the combined knowledge/experience of all the battles.


So it really makes a lot of sense.

I just think it's stupid that cause Pan is only quarter Saiyan she's much weaker. May I remind you Gohan was able to take on Super Buu pre absorption easily?

Pan's power should be far beyond what it is. So why the hell is She barely able to take on Bojack. (this means both Universe Pans. And the one from U16 Should be even stronger than what she is too and still stronger than u18)

Well I dont know what happened to my long ass comment earlier(was probably deleted cause of what I said but whatever) but I'll just write a shortened version here.

1. Bra and Vegeta aren't honorable at all, and never have been. To be honorable means to fight Valiantly and with mercy. Vegeta never once had a shred of honor is life, there a multiple cases where he had struck someone from the behind.

2. Cell is dead, with the way Salagir writes, he's definitely dead. He isn't alive. SO whoever thinks he is alive is a complete utter idiot. Even if he is alive, it doesn't matter. Y'all are underestimating Salagir's favoritism strength.

3. The possibilities of them getting out of here alive are 0.000001%

Bra's power has gone to her head, Babadi blocked all of....whatever good stuff she had in her(which was like .5% of her), and clearly he didn't need to do much. I see two possibilities.

Either
A. Vegetto comes back and defeats Bra.
and the highly unlikely one

B. Bra actually comes to her senses to some weird cheesy epic speech or something.


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That's cause the person who drew this actually draws porn......




Technically, Zen Buu is a Gary Stu. Huge difference! Important Difference. 1 Replie(s)

This was really nice to see. A Fresh breath of Air.




Why is it in Arabic though? 1 Replie(s)

Yeah too bad this good art is being wasted on a story with numerous problematic flaws and that well is just kinda shit now. Sure most stories have tons of those, but this has to be on a whole vastly different scale. It just looks like a waste to me. DBM could've gone so differently, and so much better, but I think we all know Salagir just wants to use favoritism and ignore all the problems. He won't even try to fix them or at least come up with an reasonable excuse, most excuses he either doesn't make or isn't reasonable at all.

Sure It used to be good, but now its just wtf happened here.

That aside.



Cell Junior didn't teleport close enough, I see them using a plot device, and by that I mean... Cell JR didn't teleport close enough cause they wanted that to happen so Bra can teleport in the way and kill him or something of the sort. 1 Replie(s)

I don't think Kakarotto would achive ssj around then and I dont think the fight with broly would happen then

but so far....
sounds grea- ...wait

WHAT?!

Sorry that's not gonna happen, you went in the wrong direction.

We went over this, even if they did, it's illogical that they got one. Not a single one here was close to death, getting beat up doesn't mean near-death situation. 1 Replie(s)

Literally alot of these comments make me feel dumbfounded. No one here, has had a Zenkai, not a single one of them has been into a near death experience. To Acquire a Zenkai, it requires a near-death experience. THAT MEANS to be almost dead, which is why if they survive such an experience they gain what is known as a Zenkai. A Boost in power resulted them from just about dying.

In the Saiyan Saga for Example in DBZ.
Goku had every single one of his bones broken including his SPINE. The only reason he survived it was cause of Saiyan's biology.
Vegeta was in a similar situation, not all of his bones were broken, but he had vital bones severely damaged, (not sure bout his spine though but its possible since Ape Gohan slammed hard on him. Which is why he crawled to the ship though normally if you break your spine, ya can't move. So this isn't entirely possible for it to be the cast. Goku did, and therefore he couldn't move)


Another thing to note, Great Ape forms do NOT INCREASE POWER. Power is the combination of Speed, Power, and Technique. It was officially stated, that it only increased their strength. Hence why Goku was able to just barely dodge the giant ape. Vegeta's speed was still the same but his strength was greatly increased.

This comic right here completely forgets that, cause their increasing both Speed and Power. Which simply isn't the case.

That's why I think the x10 boost isn't too ridiculous, cause its supposed to only be a Strength Increase, no Speed. Speed stays the same and Strength increases greatly. It may have not seemed for them to be faster, but that's possibly because they're so big, it looks different.

TL:DR No one received a near-death experience, cause none of them were near death. Great Ape form increases Strength not Power(Speed, Strength, Technique) 3 Replie(s)

I think 6k is best, it's in the middle perfectly, and I've always found it just to be right. Strong enough to beat the others, but also weak enough against Goku.
It really would be stupid for him to be at 4k, cause according to the same people who gave that PL also said Piccolo was at 3,500 and if that really was the case, 6,000 would make better sense.

You should also always account for how much energy the fighter uses, that actually can drain their power which in turn drains their PL....I'm pretty sure everyone forgets that....but then again I could be wrong...

Just gonna point this out but If he breaks his Spine he might actually die before getting healed up. Probably best if his near-death experience is caused by something with a better chance to survive. 1 Replie(s)

Because they had to leave immediately and get to somewhere safer.

Just gonna say this before some idiot comes along....but...
He didn't gain a Zenkai. You can only gain a Zenkai if you experience NEAR-DEATH not Death. If you die, it doesn't count.
Kakarotto didn't technically die but he might as of well have in a sense. I like to think this immortality, this one specifically in this special as "Infinite Lives" rather than real Immortality.
So it's an improved version of Immortality, so it's like invincibility without actually being invincible(Though if he was invincible he'd never experience near-death situations, if your invincible you experience no damage.) 1 Replie(s)

NGL, I'm definitely back to be interested in DBM.. I wouldn't say this is great or anything but far more intrguing than what the previous dragged out thing that was take place pre-hand.


Then again, Dragged Out Z has always been know for dragging things out....hence its name...

as much as I wanted the other stuff to get finished, this looks seemingly interesting. I like the way Kakarotto is looking towards us with an evil look.

Jeeze you got OLD, Salagir.

My first thoughts is this ^

She didn't hesistate but her face in the second panel shows regret, at least it looks like it that way to me even if its not clear.

Interesting theory. Hard to believe though, there's no way she didn't inherit any part of Vegetto's Goku Side, being Vegetto's child.

Babadi isn't a Saiyan though. Babadi can live through being cut in half for a short amount of time. Gohan would die within mere seconds.

....Well.....I honestly did not expect this outcome. I do say, It was quite brutal....

U16 Gohan just seems alot less hopeful compared to U18 Gohan..
That aside. I wonder what's going to happen now, only time will tell.

Welp see y'all till the next coming Friday


Not when they're sliced in half. He's gonna die just like that within seconds. Bra won't give Buu time to save Gohan...so don't count on it 1 Replie(s)

...welp, guess we'll find out whats gonna happen on sunday......I gotta try and not check for this every week. Suspense kills me, even for something ...thats really meh.

Incase you've forgotten, this isn't kid Gohan anymore. Not to mention they're practically out of energy, even Kid Gohan out of energy couldn't do much, it was different back then. Kid Gohan always had a reserve of hidden energy he didn't know how to unleash. Adult Gohan doesn't, yeah he still has legendary rage, but he doesn't have that same reserve, he can unleash all of his power fully now.





That's a very good point. Alot of us did not think about this at all.



Ya know Saiyan "Toying with enemies" longer genetic.



Chances are though, we have at least another 5 - 10 pages before this ends. AT least.... If it ends sooner that's cool, but I highly doubt it will. So either its best to be patient and wait, OR you can try to forget about DBM for a year, and BAM a ton to catch up on. It'll be more enjoyable for some at least.

Welp that figures...... At this point I don't even care if Vegetto comes in and makes it anti-climatic, I just want her to be beaten.

So whatever happened to the Raditz that was getting power boosted by Elder Kai? I mean I didn't see him get teleported with the others....or am I wrong?

I wanna say, hopefully she's too focused on the senzu bean, that cell hits her with a death beam.....but knowing the writers, that won't happen.

Should be able to after a Zenkai or something.

Thats what usually happens.

Okay, I honestly believe Bra should be this strong, but I also believe Cell should be able to land a punch or two at this point even if doesnt hurt.

I don't know much about the community of DBM, so I don't know if someone has already thought of this but...

Vegito is NOT to be thought of a Fusion but rather a combination of two beings into one. Or in better sense, One being created from two. He is still a different being from Goku and Vegeta.

When Vegito was "born" all that power he started with could've easily tripled from one good zenkai. My theory is that Vegito isn't Goku and Vegeta(obviously, I know im stating alot of obvious stuff here), but anyhow, within just one year's training, Vegito himself could be easily far beyond a comprehensible level. I don't remember when they had Bra, but even if Vegito's strength hasn't improved much yet(though it should and again, I don't know if Salagir & whoever else helped him write that stuff, ever thought about something like this and did their stuff this way but... just hear me out).
Bra's born powerlevel should actually technically be higher than "13,...whatever it was" because 13k at birth for the power she has right now doesn't make sense.(than again Broly.)


Honestly, what I just said doesnt probably make anysense. Cause 1. I never knew what Salagir & others, intentions were when they wrote this. 2. I do pay attention to the lore of DBM but nowhere near as much as I should if I wanna write this down.

Anyhow IMO, Her power isn't completely ridiculously stupid. Its very reasonable actually. (but then with this theory, shouldn't Pan be just as strong? Yes....)


Maybe I should keep my mouth shut cause I'll sound stupid without making sure I have my facts checked according to DBM, but I'm sick of seeing people complaining about something as stupid as Bra's power(It's the same way they complain about DBS powerlevel scales. Well guess what SHIT HAPPENS, Nobody GIVES A FUCK. Idc if its just bad, THERE'S NO point in complaining, so just stop...)



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Saiyans can't gain zenkais if they are fully dead. They only gain a Zenkai NEAR death.