"Wouldn’t survive that” feels odd. it’s more that he would prefer to die than be used as a hostage.

I bet they're just bluffing. To make them flee and save Vegeta

AlphaTemp was saying: At the very least, we know Uub can move in the stopped time.
How do you know that? For me it definitely looked like the life-stop (not time-stop) wasn't active anymore.

It cannot be Uub. If you guys paid a little more attention, you would get to this conclusion yourself

Wait, this tiny trick can work on someone who are stronger than him?

I knew U18 Vegeta would intercept but I didn't expect the small trick can break his hand like this.

It's still absurd that an entry level SSJ1 can interrupt the SSJ3 level fight.

Can't they just "dodge"? Why take every attack hands on? A SSJ3 has to take an entry level SSJ1's attack is beyond imaginable.

No way this ends in U13 Vegeta getting cut up by Pan lol. It seems our Vegeta is indeed a better fighter given his major handicap.

ChrisOfChaos was saying: Allow me.

U13 Vegeta:
— Has to put up with an immortal Kakarot for the rest of his life.
— Has almost all of the deep insecurities U18 Vegeta once had.
— Will likely never have the love or warmth of a family.
— Is going to burn in hell when he dies until he reincarnates.

U18 Vegeta:
— Is much stronger after unlocking SSJ0.
— Has overcome most of his trauma and inferiority complex.
— Has a beautiful, insanely rich wife, and a loving family.
— Will probably go to heaven by this point and keep his body when he dies, which is essentially the immortality U13 Vegeta wanted so badly.
— Can use his universe's dragon balls any time he wants.

Also I like that they kept U13 Vegeta's reddish tint in his hair, suits him.
I agree with the first and the last point. But U13 Vegeta fulfilled his destiny and become the first SSJ, killed Freeza & took his empire & now he's the emperor of his whole universe. So, there's no insecurities.

And why on the blue hell will U13 Vegeta give a fuck about "love" & "Family warmth"? He will scoff at mere idea and will laugh at U18 Vegeta's face for reducing himself to be with a "worthless woman" like Bulma. Also, again, he's the Emperor of his whole universe! What Bulma's dad's money gonna do for him? And "beautiful" is a very strong word for that old hag! xD



The only thing he's missing is immortality & the fact that he's weaker than U18 Vegeta. That's the only two things U13 Vegeta cares about. Which is why he's working with XXI.

Who is the best Vegeta?

Well, let's see:

U13 Vegeta:
— Emperor of his Universe
— Strongest in his Universe
— Unlocked SSJ first
— Killed Freeza
— Kakarotto is the one chasing him
— Didn't get immortality but got the b#tches xD

U18 Vegeta:
— Prince of no one
— Ran away from some weak earthlings after getting beat up by them
— Was not the first one to unlock SSJ
— Cried like a little b#tch against Freeza
— Got killed by Freeza
— He's the one chasing Goku
— No immortality & no b#tches
— Got his arms broken by a female cyborg
— Got his back broken by some lizard creature
— Reduced himself to let some wizard give him a power up
— Blow himself up after failing to beat a fat gum looking creature (and his suicide did ZERO damage)
— A Jobless freeloding of his wife
— In a submissive relationship with a weak woman that can't even fight

Yeah, U13 Vegeta clears! xD

There are female Kemans? o.O

FishNChips was saying: Has Nasu survived
Nasu is dead, I don't know what's there still to debate, the last pages where clear enough imo 😆

I always assumed the worst parts of Vegetto are from a Vegeta that never truly found his inner peace yet, like U18 Vegeta when watching Goku fight Kid Buu. I guess Bra sees some of her dad in Vegeta here.

Wait, the Anti-Life spell... it probably has range, since we saw Uub and his GF unaffected?

Calling it, he'll hold Vegeta in place so the Spirit Bomb annihilates both.

Kinda surprised that his old memories have come back so quickly, but I guess folks are right, mother's love is stronger than one may think.

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Day ??? Of calling the U18 Goten and U16 Trunks fusion into Gotenks.

Hot take: Nasu let's Tien do the remaining heavy lifting with Vegeta, while he holds on to the lion's share of his remaining energy. And then he wipes out the Earthlings except for dear old momma. Then goes back to Frieza as the last remaining saiyan. The End lol

I think that Perfect Cell has the same cybernetic implants that Androids 17 and 18 have since he (Cell) absorbed them, thus I think that Perfect Cell being immune to time stop is not surprising.

tenshinhan lost his third eye?

Week 3 of calling the U18 Goten and U16 Trunks fusion

Does he care that Trunks died too? Lol.

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Uub used the this Kaioken on a Buu created by ZenBuu previously in page 2073, and his punch can only hurt his own hand. Anju is even much stronger than that.

If Goku can only hold Raditz after the injury caused by Gohan. Uub cannot hold Anju with his maximum Kaioken.

The alternative would be for Uub to return to his village with Juna and have to explain to Anju why her childhood friend has a doppelganger of her in tow who is one of the strongest beings in the universe.

I'm the only who does not want Juna to get permanently killed?

RIP Juna.

If he gets a new power up there's always super-transcended, or over-transcended, or transcended-er.

If kaioken leaves him needing healing, and Uub can heal himself, than can he just over-kaioken and continuously heal?

ChrisOfChaos was saying:
I assume he gets time to eat and sleep in addition to the 1 hour pause.
She is waaaaay to literal to mean anything other than "1h per day to piss, sleep, eat, shit, and shower and whatever other hygiene needs you might have".
Though i'm guessing Uub can now use Magic to skip some of those daily needs.

Honestly, it isn't surprising Uub isn't making any progress. As Master Roshi says, proper rest is vital in training. If Uub had been given a full night's sleep, he probably would have won ages ago. And wait, what has he been eating for all this time?

Good art HoCBo it's very well done! I don't think she can actually kill Uub, Buu is smarter than that and would have a fail-safe set up right.. right?

For those saying Uub's OP because of his candification combat, there's more. Uub can use the Kaioken for an extended period since he can just heal himself after his body sustained too much damage.

Goku and Buu really are making a monster...

I keep forgetting how much guts Bulma has to tell Vegeta off like that. That was actually still the time when Vegeta could literally be fed up at any moment and kill everyone until Goku arrives.

Wonder if the training will allow him to achieve enough power to escape.

I really like how this remembers to highlight that for all his flaws, Satan is very generous and kind and believes his friends and famkmy deserve the best.

But What can Zamazu do to Black?

Zamasu still has two earrings, its likely Goku.

I'm sorry, but Super Trunks really really sucks. I miss DBZ Trunks so much. He'd have actually trained and not just been outright cocky like this. I mean, what does he expect? He's going after a guy he barely beat before without the help of two people leagues above himself. Only way Trunks wins here is by Plot Armor.

Your logic doesn't really make sense here. Regeneration depletes stamina so risking things like that would also put him at a disadvantage when the fate of the planet is at stake.

And regeneration only supports my masochist theory. He needs the pain to feel alive.

Gast, there's gauging someone and then there's being a masochist. I'm starting to think you're the latter.

Oh hey, Videl saved Gohan for once. Also why does this Android seem significantly stronger than the others in that it seems to destroy them in only one blow? Was that mention earlier and I missed it?

New pages in my version of Goku vs XXI

Wait, this is just Porunga. Wouldn't it be cooler is the Dragonballs of U1 had a special dragon? And if this is just Porunga, why didn't XXI just steal the other sets of Dragonballs? It's not like anyone could stop him. He could use his dragon to steal them when they're brought out to grant wishes.

If you look at the last page, Bruce certainly expresses the feelings of a lot of people here, lol.

Whatever afterlife is present in this universe is probably incredibly thankful

I still hope they give Goku his free sundae for his third death, but I don't think those punch cards are transferable between universes

Am I the only one who this this is kind of a future vision? Isn't the font kinda different?

Damn you sorbet!

All kidding aside, xxi has been known to be ssj vegetto tier and has the buu killer technique.

Its in the novel.

But anyway, janemba or other things like android 13 and ikls move could explain this.

Vegeta is about to make a grave mistake i'm guessing. i also predict Radditz turns on Nappa and Vegeta in some way to protect Gohan. Tien/Yamcha take care of Nappa and Gohan takes out Vegeta

Gohan is all like “this my my kill you’ve already eaten your full” he’s acting like a true saiyan.
Goku must be looking down in disgust. Surely Kami could’ve still asked king yemma to allow goku to train at king kai even if kami is dead he should’ve been able to keep his physical soul form being god of earth. And goku since he was a hero should keep his body too. Like fighters that were part of the other world tournament. So he should be able to talk to Gohan through king Kai.

ChrisOfChaos was saying:

With Vegeta he already suspected he also needed time to transform, so it wasn't necessary.

Nope, that logic doesn't hold because Vegeta could have just pretended he was going to do the same as Goku, waited until Goku closed his eyes, and turned Super Saiyan 3 and oneshotted Goku in an instant.

Oh, so he's smart enough to transform before touching the ring in this fight, unlike in his fight with Vegeta.

Others and I had called it when we said that U1 South Kaioshin is possessed, it just happens that U1 South Kaioshin is actually possessed by U15 I'K'L instead of U5 XXI.

I am about 82% sure Zen Buu will figure out Multiversal travel before all this is all over and help out for the final battle. And that includes bringing some people back!

I just don't really like that small message from Salagir to be honest. I'm kind of getting South Park vibes with the "I'm sorry". :D
It's really better to just pretend that this flashback chapter doesn't exist in the future. I'll also skip it on rereads, I guess...

He only took his body not the mind

How he doesn't K how does he know kamehameha

In super he didn't know gokus techniques

Idk if he is going after Bra. He already has U13 Saiyans and even potentially Vegetto. Go after too many and he risks getting ratted out.

XXI phrases it here as if he wishes to have the ability to travel between universes. However, some have already mentioned this. If Porunga could fulfill such a wish, others should also be able to do so. And therefore there would be no good reason why ZenBuu could not.

We still need an official explanation why he is older than videl, not just about height but age, videl is at best 10 or 11, and this gohan is prolly looking older than his 11 yrs old age

I do bet on hyperbolic machine but it's not yet confirmed