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Damian Qualshy
1 dag, 22h
Teleported_Bread was saying:
Damian Qualshy was saying: Is Trunks actually holding back then? Man, imagine if Toei and Toyotaro kept his personality from Z.
You're making a joke, right?
You're making a joke, right?
What joke? Trunks in DBS is completely hopeless. This isn't the same guy who met his heroes, trained and fought with them, who was changed by spending a whole year with his father in isolation. This isn't the guy who effortlessly and immediately dealt with the android threat after coming back from the past (which also should have happened here but he's dragging the fight out).
Heck, he even gave up and was called out for it by Vegeta after witnessing SSBlue. No version of Z Trunks would just sit idly and let someone else deal with his problem.
Damian Qualshy
2 dagar, 3h
Is Trunks actually holding back then? Man, imagine if Toei and Toyotaro kept his personality from Z.
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The inexorable distortion page 42
Damian Qualshy
2 dagar, 16h
I'm sorry. I know it's thematic and we have to get the Vegetto rebellion somehow but... But this is death of a character. He CAN'T be THAT stupid, right? Despite all that happened.
I see the thing about Vegetto being half dead yet again... Guys, IF ANYTHING, Vegetto would be LESS hungry instead of more because dead people don't have to eat. And Elder Kai giving Goku life for his own doesn't mean they exchanged souls or whatever, that's dumb, please don't think that.
Also Bra is fully alive. The hunger seems to stem from the power level of a Saiyan, which... is a one way to look at it, sure. We saw her chug two (or three?) senzus at once, while Vegetto had to take double or triple that. Also from the novel we know he has a whole PLANET just for growing senzu beans, so there's that.
DB Multiverse page 2488
MATTIA IL DIVINO was saying:
ChrisOfChaos was saying: I wonder if Bra would have the same weakness if she became as strong as her father? Or if it's just a flaw in the way fusion handles power.
There’s the interesting theory of them needing senzu because of Vegeta’s dead soul. If you think about it, Vegeth is half-dead, as a fusion between a living soul and a dead one. It could be that he suffers from metabolic disorders and that his need of senzu is rather due to its effect on restoring health from the verge of death, than to the hunger satiety.
Likewise, Bra is 1/4-dead, so she suffers less from that issue.
And now that we think about it: the old Kaiohshin should have noted (according to his divine clairvoyance) that both Goku and Vegeth are the two characters blessed by his same soul. In the Bu’s fight on Earth, Kaiohshin offered Goku his own soul to enable him to come back. It could have been a nice occasion to exploit this plot device as a deus-ex-machina. For example, thanks to that, Kaiohshin could power-up Goku immediately or stuff like that. Such a pity the old man didn’t share a thought about it in these pages. Who knows, maybe that’s even the agreement Vegeth talked about in page 2486 ;)
There’s the interesting theory of them needing senzu because of Vegeta’s dead soul. If you think about it, Vegeth is half-dead, as a fusion between a living soul and a dead one. It could be that he suffers from metabolic disorders and that his need of senzu is rather due to its effect on restoring health from the verge of death, than to the hunger satiety.
Likewise, Bra is 1/4-dead, so she suffers less from that issue.
And now that we think about it: the old Kaiohshin should have noted (according to his divine clairvoyance) that both Goku and Vegeth are the two characters blessed by his same soul. In the Bu’s fight on Earth, Kaiohshin offered Goku his own soul to enable him to come back. It could have been a nice occasion to exploit this plot device as a deus-ex-machina. For example, thanks to that, Kaiohshin could power-up Goku immediately or stuff like that. Such a pity the old man didn’t share a thought about it in these pages. Who knows, maybe that’s even the agreement Vegeth talked about in page 2486 ;)
I see the thing about Vegetto being half dead yet again... Guys, IF ANYTHING, Vegetto would be LESS hungry instead of more because dead people don't have to eat. And Elder Kai giving Goku life for his own doesn't mean they exchanged souls or whatever, that's dumb, please don't think that.
Also Bra is fully alive. The hunger seems to stem from the power level of a Saiyan, which... is a one way to look at it, sure. We saw her chug two (or three?) senzus at once, while Vegetto had to take double or triple that. Also from the novel we know he has a whole PLANET just for growing senzu beans, so there's that.
Damian Qualshy
7 Maj
Well you see, it's called being a Legendary Super Saiyan knock-off
Yamoshi Story page 86
Damian Qualshy
7 Maj
Grimael was saying:
Well, Trunks is seemingly putting up a fight here. Suppose B.Goku will pull out his Dragonball-Powerup card soon.
We don't really have much context in regard to the strength of THIS B.Goku though. Maybe Trunks actually stands a chance.
We don't really have much context in regard to the strength of THIS B.Goku though. Maybe Trunks actually stands a chance.
Trunks definitely has a chance. He already kind of surpassed Rose Black, or at least got on his level, so there's no way the one that didn't fight with Goku or Vegeta is as powerful.
Damian Qualshy
5 Maj
Teleported_Bread was saying:
Damian Qualshy was saying: SuperSaiyanGodVic was saying: The artist for this comic has been great! I'm enjoying the comic so far. Honestly I enjoyed Super. I don't know why everyone's so butthurt about it, I hope Beerus and the gods of destruction get added into dbm.
DBM ignores Super and GT unfortunately. And people aren't "butthurt" about Super, at least not actual fans that aren't Z fanatics who didn't even watch original DB or Japanese dub. It's just that writing was completely bonkers at times and powerscaling doesn't exist.
So refreshing to see somebody else acknowledge the 'Z fanatics' issue regarding DBS criticism.
As for the writing, while it isn't perfect here or there, something I found unique about it is how they're easily salvageable without overwriting the story entirely. Like, I can think of an explanation or something that might fill in a plot hole or whatever. And regarding the power scaling, the anime I believe does still retain some sort of sense on strong and weak without losing or going outlandishly over the top with either. It's the manga that has real issues with writing and power scaling, like somebody daring to claim Vegito is comparable to Beerus, an example that touches both things I mentioned regarding writing and power scaling as it's a bold claim to say the least atop the fact that Beerus's true power is meant to be left ambiguous on purpose.
DBM ignores Super and GT unfortunately. And people aren't "butthurt" about Super, at least not actual fans that aren't Z fanatics who didn't even watch original DB or Japanese dub. It's just that writing was completely bonkers at times and powerscaling doesn't exist.
So refreshing to see somebody else acknowledge the 'Z fanatics' issue regarding DBS criticism.
As for the writing, while it isn't perfect here or there, something I found unique about it is how they're easily salvageable without overwriting the story entirely. Like, I can think of an explanation or something that might fill in a plot hole or whatever. And regarding the power scaling, the anime I believe does still retain some sort of sense on strong and weak without losing or going outlandishly over the top with either. It's the manga that has real issues with writing and power scaling, like somebody daring to claim Vegito is comparable to Beerus, an example that touches both things I mentioned regarding writing and power scaling as it's a bold claim to say the least atop the fact that Beerus's true power is meant to be left ambiguous on purpose.
Nah it's actually the Anime that throws it out the window for the sake of fights and fancy visuals when Manga makes sure that if someone is strong then they're strong.
As for Vegetto, Goku says it in the BoG movie as well, that "even fused we wouldn't stand a chance".
Damian Qualshy
5 Maj
Salagir was saying:
Damian Qualshy was saying: Hm, Goku's last sentence doesn't make sense. I don't remember, are these original translations of the comic and not new ones?
I copied the translations from Amilova, sometimes I corrected them.
I'm sure his sentence isn't perfect, but "doesn't make sense" seems harsh.
Also, can you suggest a correction? That would help.
I copied the translations from Amilova, sometimes I corrected them.
I'm sure his sentence isn't perfect, but "doesn't make sense" seems harsh.
Also, can you suggest a correction? That would help.
Ah, sorry. That "But wait a minute" would probably sound better as "Come on" or "Hold on", as a response to Krillin's comment. Otherwise it looks like Goku is not responding to anyone but is instead saying that first.
And as BangBang pointed out there should be a question mark too.
Damian Qualshy
5 Maj
Hm, Goku's last sentence doesn't make sense. I don't remember, are these original translations of the comic and not new ones?
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Super Dragon Bros Z page 143
Damian Qualshy
5 Maj
SuperSaiyanGodVic was saying:
The artist for this comic has been great! I'm enjoying the comic so far. Honestly I enjoyed Super. I don't know why everyone's so butthurt about it, I hope Beerus and the gods of destruction get added into dbm.
DBM ignores Super and GT unfortunately. And people aren't "butthurt" about Super, at least not actual fans that aren't Z fanatics who didn't even watch original DB or Japanese dub. It's just that writing was completely bonkers at times and powerscaling doesn't exist. 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy
5 Maj
Joey21 was saying:
No I will not read the novel in conjunction; the manga should be able to stand on its own legs and make sense.
No I will not read the novel in conjunction; the manga should be able to stand on its own legs and make sense.
It should provide enough information, but it kind of does imo. It just doesn't go into great detail.
The novel is good though, I especially like the one about Buu.
Damian Qualshy
5 Maj
iron leaf was saying:
Damian Qualshy was saying: Because it's silly, why would it lead to bad consequences? Yes, the novel goes into great detail about it, but I feel like the comic takes it ten steps further and cranks up Vegetto's insanity up to a hundred for no reason other than to serve as a plot device.
I think, if Vegetto stayed fused for real, he would have developed some issues, it feels like the natural outcome that potara fusion between mortals shouldn't exist & we don't know the longterm consequences. Everyone always just assumes that a Potara fusion has no effect on a person and that everyone will live happily ever after. Vegetto was not frozen in time after the Buu fight & unfreezed right before the tournament. He is worth 2 (in-universe) decades of characterization & was portrayed as a partially unreasonable person for a (real-life) decade now. Multiverse depicted Vegetto from having a balanced conscious of both fusionee at the start (Age 774 -> DBM Specials + DBM U16 Novel) slowly merging them into a new conscious (Age 794 -> DBM Tournament). The same happened to Piccolo & Buu. It additionally, portrays how the real DBZ (U18) is the only true-happy ending in comparison. Ever since the fight against Zen Buu in space, Vegetto & U16 in general are portrayed as somekind fishy. That was a decade ago. Vegetto is egocentric, neglecting his daughter in a psychological manner, has outbursts, is indifferent towards weak people, showcase a god complex on several occasions & is bascially a ticking time bomb. All traits introduced years ago. It fits the idea that it has something to do with the Potara and the Fusion. There is a theory that fusion characters forever retain the characteristics of their fusion parts at the time of fusion. No evolution or deviation from it, ever. I find this theory rather questionable and would be more suited to DB Heroes or the opening of a DB game.
I think, if Vegetto stayed fused for real, he would have developed some issues, it feels like the natural outcome that potara fusion between mortals shouldn't exist & we don't know the longterm consequences. Everyone always just assumes that a Potara fusion has no effect on a person and that everyone will live happily ever after. Vegetto was not frozen in time after the Buu fight & unfreezed right before the tournament. He is worth 2 (in-universe) decades of characterization & was portrayed as a partially unreasonable person for a (real-life) decade now. Multiverse depicted Vegetto from having a balanced conscious of both fusionee at the start (Age 774 -> DBM Specials + DBM U16 Novel) slowly merging them into a new conscious (Age 794 -> DBM Tournament). The same happened to Piccolo & Buu. It additionally, portrays how the real DBZ (U18) is the only true-happy ending in comparison. Ever since the fight against Zen Buu in space, Vegetto & U16 in general are portrayed as somekind fishy. That was a decade ago. Vegetto is egocentric, neglecting his daughter in a psychological manner, has outbursts, is indifferent towards weak people, showcase a god complex on several occasions & is bascially a ticking time bomb. All traits introduced years ago. It fits the idea that it has something to do with the Potara and the Fusion. There is a theory that fusion characters forever retain the characteristics of their fusion parts at the time of fusion. No evolution or deviation from it, ever. I find this theory rather questionable and would be more suited to DB Heroes or the opening of a DB game.
One small problem, we have an example of a fusion not going the bad way: Piccolo.
He always seems to stay "himself", his personality changing only a bit from assimilating Nail but not at all when he joined back with Kami.
And yeah, case could be made that Namekian Fusion makes one part be dominant, just like Metamoran fusion (Gotenks is basically Trunks, although both kids are quite the same), buuuut apparently so does the Potara (Elder Kai and Kibitoshin, but it's probably because they're both Kaioshins).
I just don't like how Vegetto is becoming crazy because "he's a mortal fusion", or that because Vegeta didn't undergo his Kid Buu change about Kakarot before fusing. His personality should already stabilize years ago, after Bra was born. But no, he's becoming worse.
The idea that his traits are frozen in time is an odd one, yet interesting, I will admit, but I still don't exactly like it. 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy
4 Maj
iron leaf was saying:
Daiko was saying: iron leaf was saying: This is much better than having Vegetto be the beacon of inspiration throughout the DBM comicMaybe to you but to me personally it's just kind of a massive bummer to make him kind of a psycho(like his novel) when he shouldn't be and it sucks to see him constantly get crapped on. He had one cool moment and it was against a suped up fanfic Broly who was literally invincible and got free power ups so nothing but the final blow really mattered. It didn't even knock Broly out of his Legendary state. Then he got no diffed by XXI, there was the Bra sob stories to attempt to make him look bad, Buu being overpowered, Gast one shotting him with his cheat magic, plus now we gotta figure out how Bardock's vision comes to pass.
Just seems like a waste to me. The guy was literally willing to risk it all in an attempt to save his friends and family on his debut but DBM just kind of made him a whiney brat who loses most of the time and thinks about killing his family just to get a rise out of Gohan.Congratulations. You have internalized the essential what-if of U16. Potara fusion between non-Kaioshin is wrong and leads to incredibly horrible long-term consequences aka Vegetto in the U0 tournament. The important question is whether people like it. And I'm aware that a lot of people don't like it.
Just seems like a waste to me. The guy was literally willing to risk it all in an attempt to save his friends and family on his debut but DBM just kind of made him a whiney brat who loses most of the time and thinks about killing his family just to get a rise out of Gohan.Congratulations. You have internalized the essential what-if of U16. Potara fusion between non-Kaioshin is wrong and leads to incredibly horrible long-term consequences aka Vegetto in the U0 tournament. The important question is whether people like it. And I'm aware that a lot of people don't like it.
Because it's silly, why would it lead to bad consequences? Yes, the novel goes into great detail about it, but I feel like the comic takes it ten steps further and cranks up Vegetto's insanity up to a hundred for no reason other than to serve as a plot device. 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy
4 Maj
I am beginning to suspect XXI isn't originally from his own universe and it was Elder Kai who threw him there, causing the split. Although that makes absolutely no sense, in other universes they seemingly managed to defeat him pretty easily.
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DB Multiverse page 2487
Damian Qualshy
4 Maj
Females was saying:
King Kai training aside, Tien never had his potential unlocked nor traveled to space for training in the original timeline and yet was able to hold back semi perfect Cell. He should be the strongest of the 4 imo.
He was just pushing him. Apparently just like he pushed Nasu here. 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy
3 Maj
This sounds like Cumber is possessed and Yamoshi knows it, but is he really?
Also just a second before didn't Chilled make his appearance and no one went after him?
Yamoshi Story page 85
Also just a second before didn't Chilled make his appearance and no one went after him?
Damian Qualshy
3 Maj
Really weird angle for Black's head, covering his pupils.
But I still love the highlights on his Gi.
The inexorable distortion page 40
But I still love the highlights on his Gi.
Damian Qualshy
2 Maj
If Elder Kai REALLY plans to make Vegetto mad here, then (remembering the last page about Goku) who's the stupid one?
What? No. It's because he (for some reason) has appetite squared so he has to eat a handful of Senzus to be full. They have a whole planet specifically to grow them for that exact reason.
DB Multiverse page 2486
Coolio13 was saying:
CompactCoven was saying: SSJ2 Your Nick was saying: Is it going to turn out Vegetto tires out easily and requires some sort of recharge he hasn't got access to?
JetMalakai was saying: Normal healing methods and food aren't effective on him, simply because of his physiology. He has a literal planet that's devoted to growing Senzu beans for him because without that level of nutrients he'd starve.
Yeye, they established that Vegito needs Senzus to properly recover a while back. It's a pretty fun weakness to have for him, it makes sense that once you get to a certain power level, the amount of energy it would take to recover would be massively inflated
I thought it was because he was half-dead, so he needed the senzu beans to actually stay at a normal level?
JetMalakai was saying: Normal healing methods and food aren't effective on him, simply because of his physiology. He has a literal planet that's devoted to growing Senzu beans for him because without that level of nutrients he'd starve.
Yeye, they established that Vegito needs Senzus to properly recover a while back. It's a pretty fun weakness to have for him, it makes sense that once you get to a certain power level, the amount of energy it would take to recover would be massively inflated
I thought it was because he was half-dead, so he needed the senzu beans to actually stay at a normal level?
What? No. It's because he (for some reason) has appetite squared so he has to eat a handful of Senzus to be full. They have a whole planet specifically to grow them for that exact reason.
Damian Qualshy
2 Maj
Ah, so Tien from the tournament is SO MUCH better than this one then? I mean, wow.
Fanfic u4, chapter 13
Damian Qualshy
1 Maj
Ayashi was saying:
Shouldn't "fellow man" be "fellow saiyan" instead?
It actually should be "fellow men", because it's neither gender specific or race specific. It's just like comrades, companions.
Damian Qualshy
1 Maj
Finally something more from this guy!
So far we only had the very first cover and Majin rebellion.
DB Multiverse page 2485
So far we only had the very first cover and Majin rebellion.
Damian Qualshy
30 April
Teleported_Bread was saying:
Damian Qualshy was saying: Stevethebarbarian was saying: Realistically it feels like this Black should be no serious threat to Trunks. He never fought Goku and Vegeta, and it seems like it’s just him here with no Zamasu and no immortality. This Trunks is far beyond the one he killed, having reached a point where he can even fight Marged Zamasu, and Trunks knows better than to let the fight drag on too long
They were always together, Black and Zamasu. That's why it's weird he didn't show up yet.
But yeah, this one is weaker than SS2 Goku, and doesn't even have Rose yet.
We haven't seen it, doesn't mean he doesn't have it. I do know that in the anime, sharing a timeline with Goku seems to cause his power to grow, almost like it's adapting or adjusting to the presence of the same body. There's definitely some sort of... resonance effect at play whenever they'd face each other...
They were always together, Black and Zamasu. That's why it's weird he didn't show up yet.
But yeah, this one is weaker than SS2 Goku, and doesn't even have Rose yet.
We haven't seen it, doesn't mean he doesn't have it. I do know that in the anime, sharing a timeline with Goku seems to cause his power to grow, almost like it's adapting or adjusting to the presence of the same body. There's definitely some sort of... resonance effect at play whenever they'd face each other...
No, he's just getting used to the body more and gets stronger when fighting. One can only assume he exploits zenkais with Zamasu who heals him.
There's no "resonance", because Black is shown stronger every time Goku and Vegeta get BACK to the future, not during their time there.
Damian Qualshy
30 April
Noirium was saying:
That's Vegeta's Technique™!
(Fanfic edition)
Damian Qualshy
30 April
There's no way Gohan would ever even try to be convinced unless he was completely alone.
Also, Kiko-Ho incoming, hide your Cells!
Saigo no Son page 55
Also, Kiko-Ho incoming, hide your Cells!
Damian Qualshy
29 April
I'm curious if we will see a Super Saiyan in this story, or only God.
Although I can't shake the thought of both, the same way that Goku did it in the BoG movie.
Yamoshi Story page 84
Although I can't shake the thought of both, the same way that Goku did it in the BoG movie.
Damian Qualshy
29 April
Stevethebarbarian was saying:
Realistically it feels like this Black should be no serious threat to Trunks. He never fought Goku and Vegeta, and it seems like it’s just him here with no Zamasu and no immortality. This Trunks is far beyond the one he killed, having reached a point where he can even fight Marged Zamasu, and Trunks knows better than to let the fight drag on too long
They were always together, Black and Zamasu. That's why it's weird he didn't show up yet.
But yeah, this one is weaker than SS2 Goku, and doesn't even have Rose yet. 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy
27 April
And so Gast, being literally the only other sane person in this entire arena, decided to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about XXI after his fight.
Seriously though, Gast despite being so smart and wise, still retains all his warrior characteristics as the core of his personality (like wanting a challenge above all). It's cool and all, and he understands the stakes either way as he showed throughout the tournament, the rebellions and Buu's shenanigans, BUT YET he STILL didn't tell anyone about XXI immediately after the fight.
DB Multiverse page 2484
Seriously though, Gast despite being so smart and wise, still retains all his warrior characteristics as the core of his personality (like wanting a challenge above all). It's cool and all, and he understands the stakes either way as he showed throughout the tournament, the rebellions and Buu's shenanigans, BUT YET he STILL didn't tell anyone about XXI immediately after the fight.
Damian Qualshy
27 April
Ayashi was saying:
There are many... In this world... I know. Sad things...
Sir this is a comic, not a Manga :nerd:
Damian Qualshy
27 April
Saso was saying:
King Kindred was saying: Damian Qualshy was saying: Close enough! It should've been "the upper hand" instead of "high ground hand".
Also, Uncle Nappa is real!
I was just about to comment this. Don't know how this got translated to that.
Vegeta: Huh. They have some interesting techniques.
They got Gohan to sweat, but at least he doesn't seem full of rage here. I wonder if Vegeta and Nappa managed to tame Gohan's rage. I'm sure Vegeta wouldn't have wanted him to grow stronger than him through anger.
We had "problems" with this page in Spanish, since we translate from English to Spanish.
In the end we used the original in French as a reference and made an adaptation that's really closer to the "the upper hand" but makes the scene funnier, I wasn't aware that this actually happened in English and thought it was just a weird choice of words.
In the end we actually adapted it to "It seems like you don't have an ace up your sleeve" since Nappa literally cannot have it now, it's better that way.
Also, Uncle Nappa is real!
I was just about to comment this. Don't know how this got translated to that.
Vegeta: Huh. They have some interesting techniques.
They got Gohan to sweat, but at least he doesn't seem full of rage here. I wonder if Vegeta and Nappa managed to tame Gohan's rage. I'm sure Vegeta wouldn't have wanted him to grow stronger than him through anger.
We had "problems" with this page in Spanish, since we translate from English to Spanish.
In the end we used the original in French as a reference and made an adaptation that's really closer to the "the upper hand" but makes the scene funnier, I wasn't aware that this actually happened in English and thought it was just a weird choice of words.
In the end we actually adapted it to "It seems like you don't have an ace up your sleeve" since Nappa literally cannot have it now, it's better that way.
Oh yeah haha this is just as funny.
Damian Qualshy
26 April
Damian Qualshy
26 April
Close enough! It should've been "the upper hand" instead of "high ground hand".
Also, Uncle Nappa is real! 1 Replie(s)
Saigo no Son page 54
Also, Uncle Nappa is real! 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy
26 April
thebritwriter was saying:
Truth be told I’m more distracted by the out of the nowhere dragon passing by.
This looks like a solid start but I’m guessing this will equate to a ‘is that all’ from black.
This looks like a solid start but I’m guessing this will equate to a ‘is that all’ from black.
I mean, it's just for suspense. Showcase the surroundings in complete silence.
Teleported_Bread was saying:
Knowing Toriyama's style, that's a winged dinosaur.
Knowing Toriyama's style, that's a winged dinosaur.
Icarus is a dragon actually 2 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy
26 April
Okay, this starts pretty well for Trunks. Hopefully Black doesn't get the upper hand out of a sudden.
Where's Zamasu anyway?
The inexorable distortion page 37
Where's Zamasu anyway?
Damian Qualshy
25 April
Majin Wasabi was saying:
solwitar was saying: Majin Wasabi was saying: They should start getting serious, i dont think nappa ki dropped, he just lost an arm
Losing an arm and bleeding out in middle of battle seems pretty serious unless you are Namekian, Cell or Buu.
You might be right…
Damian Qualshy was saying: Oh my, Krillin missed! Even in fanmangas Kienzan is not useful!
It seem to me like he managed to deflect the attack with a swat, but still got his arm cut while doing it… so it kind of work?
Losing an arm and bleeding out in middle of battle seems pretty serious unless you are Namekian, Cell or Buu.
You might be right…
Damian Qualshy was saying: Oh my, Krillin missed! Even in fanmangas Kienzan is not useful!
It seem to me like he managed to deflect the attack with a swat, but still got his arm cut while doing it… so it kind of work?
It's hard to say what exactly happened, but I doubt Nappa deflected it or changed the trajectory. Maybe he himself moved (for some reason) or Krillin didn't aim properly.
Damian Qualshy
25 April
BobCros was saying:
Ah yes, instead of going all out let's fight him for long period of time so he gets stronger during the fight
To be fair Super Saiyan Trunks should be enough now, but yeah of course he won't.
Damian Qualshy
24 April
Oh my, Krillin missed! Even in fanmangas Kienzan is not useful!
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Saigo no Son page 53
Damian Qualshy
24 April
Really love the callback. Wish this one was colored though.
Yamoshi Story page 82
Damian Qualshy
23 April
Royaken was saying:
Damian Qualshy was saying: Delphince was saying: Damian Qualshy was saying: If Krillin bent his arm just a little bit more, this pose would be so fluid. It's already great, don't get me wrong.
Bent his arm? Trust me, if you make a kienzan, you want that thing as FAR away from your head as you can manifest it before the throw.
What I mean is that Krillin's entire pose is almost a straight line. You can see by his legs and torso that it's not, but the arm holding Kienzan kind of breaks the flow.
Also, Krillins legs are much too long.
Bent his arm? Trust me, if you make a kienzan, you want that thing as FAR away from your head as you can manifest it before the throw.
What I mean is that Krillin's entire pose is almost a straight line. You can see by his legs and torso that it's not, but the arm holding Kienzan kind of breaks the flow.
Also, Krillins legs are much too long.
Naoki Tate wouldn't mind. It's great to show dynamic movement by stretching the characters in action.
But it's not really a big problem. As in, Krillin's height in this panel isn't that far from it's supposed one. At least he's not shorter like in DBS..
Damian Qualshy
23 April
Delphince was saying:
Damian Qualshy was saying: If Krillin bent his arm just a little bit more, this pose would be so fluid. It's already great, don't get me wrong.
Bent his arm? Trust me, if you make a kienzan, you want that thing as FAR away from your head as you can manifest it before the throw.
Bent his arm? Trust me, if you make a kienzan, you want that thing as FAR away from your head as you can manifest it before the throw.
What I mean is that Krillin's entire pose is almost a straight line. You can see by his legs and torso that it's not, but the arm holding Kienzan kind of breaks the flow. 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy
23 April
If Krillin bent his arm just a little bit more, this pose would be so fluid. It's already great, don't get me wrong.
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Saigo no Son page 52
Damian Qualshy
23 April
Royaken was saying:
If this is based on the Anime, Trunks should have this in the bag and no issues. If it's based on the Manga, Trunks did get stronger during the fight and even afterwards (considering Saiyans keep getting stronger). So I'm not sure how I feel about him looking like he's sort of struggling in this image while Black is smiling. Seems kinda inaccurate.
Yeah. That Trunks IS stronger than this Zamasu. Trunks already went through at least two Zenkais and even unlocked Rage, while Black didn't even get to fight Goku or Vegeta, he shouldn't have Rose yet so he's Super Saiyan 2 Goku level at best.
Teleported_Bread was saying:
Damian Qualshy was saying: The poses look stiff but I love the proper use of highlights. And that hair is done amazing.
Eh, they could look worse. Tbh they're probably stiff because of the highlights, which isn't easy to pull off.
Eh, they could look worse. Tbh they're probably stiff because of the highlights, which isn't easy to pull off.
Not exactly, I think. Improper highlights (like how Yamamuro did it often in DBS) would make them look plastic. These are good. It's the posing that's kind of flat, there's no force behind it. They don't exactly look like they're in movement.
Damian Qualshy
22 April
The poses look stiff but I love the proper use of highlights. And that hair is done amazing.
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Damian Qualshy
22 April
Teleported_Bread was saying:
King Kindred was saying: Damian Qualshy was saying: mAc Chaos was saying: Damian Qualshy was saying: Okay but why? Like, he's clearly not a berserk right now, he thinks straight. Why go to war?
I think it just changed their mindsets.
Maybe? I can understand all of the other infected Saiyans, but not Cumber. At the beginning he simply didn't recognize Yamoshi, as if he's a different person.
I had to go back because I was a bit confused myself. It seems like it creates another personality within him. The real Cumber and then the bloodthirsty Cumber.
I still don't get why it's specifically a 'disease'. It feels a bit... off, with how this whole thing is treated. They don't seem like 'the evil Saiyans' if they can be 'cured'. Maybe it's just the execution, idk...
I think it just changed their mindsets.
Maybe? I can understand all of the other infected Saiyans, but not Cumber. At the beginning he simply didn't recognize Yamoshi, as if he's a different person.
I had to go back because I was a bit confused myself. It seems like it creates another personality within him. The real Cumber and then the bloodthirsty Cumber.
I still don't get why it's specifically a 'disease'. It feels a bit... off, with how this whole thing is treated. They don't seem like 'the evil Saiyans' if they can be 'cured'. Maybe it's just the execution, idk...
It probably stems from how Cumber affected others with his Ki in Dragon Ball Heroes. Goku for example went completely berserk because of it. 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy
21 April
Teleported_Bread was saying:
Damian Qualshy was saying: BangBang was saying: Swistak-z-Krakowa was saying: So stupid - why this girl is there...
Apparently, everyone wants the Future Trunks x Mai rubbed on everybody's face.
Everyone forgot that Mai is at least twice as old as Bulma...
Apparently everyone seems to forget Mai's a soldier who's been fighting Goku Black for almost as long as Trunks, and had been leading an entire armed resistance movement against his genocide of the Human Race. Nobody complains when Bulma is around.
Btw, a lot of people know Mai's chronological age. We've just been looking at her as somebody who's started a new life, and one that doesn't involve a fruitless path of world conquest. She probably stopped viewing herself as what she was before Pilaf made them young again awhile ago.
Apparently, everyone wants the Future Trunks x Mai rubbed on everybody's face.
Everyone forgot that Mai is at least twice as old as Bulma...
Apparently everyone seems to forget Mai's a soldier who's been fighting Goku Black for almost as long as Trunks, and had been leading an entire armed resistance movement against his genocide of the Human Race. Nobody complains when Bulma is around.
Btw, a lot of people know Mai's chronological age. We've just been looking at her as somebody who's started a new life, and one that doesn't involve a fruitless path of world conquest. She probably stopped viewing herself as what she was before Pilaf made them young again awhile ago.
She's still someone with a mind of a 40+ year old woman, flirting with a child. 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy
21 April
Hyperblade was saying:
Damian Qualshy was saying: Girl Buu was saying: Fussgaenger was saying: The same with Krillin and Chiaotzu (Kienzan+Paralyse Combo).
Chaotzu's paralysis (causing crippling pain) didn't work against Nappa, it more or less just made him mad and I don't think it is something that scales with power level.
Why not? If you're stronger then your techniques are stronger. It's simple.
It’s because the technique doesn’t cause damage, it causes the sensation of feeling severely ill. But Nappa keeps fighting the same regardless of how shitty he feels.
Chaotzu's paralysis (causing crippling pain) didn't work against Nappa, it more or less just made him mad and I don't think it is something that scales with power level.
Why not? If you're stronger then your techniques are stronger. It's simple.
It’s because the technique doesn’t cause damage, it causes the sensation of feeling severely ill. But Nappa keeps fighting the same regardless of how shitty he feels.
He sure did, when Goku broke his spine...
Damian Qualshy
20 April
Girl Buu was saying:
Fussgaenger was saying: The same with Krillin and Chiaotzu (Kienzan+Paralyse Combo).
Chaotzu's paralysis (causing crippling pain) didn't work against Nappa, it more or less just made him mad and I don't think it is something that scales with power level.
Chaotzu's paralysis (causing crippling pain) didn't work against Nappa, it more or less just made him mad and I don't think it is something that scales with power level.
Why not? If you're stronger then your techniques are stronger. It's simple. 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy
20 April
BangBang was saying:
Swistak-z-Krakowa was saying: So stupid - why this girl is there...
Apparently, everyone wants the Future Trunks x Mai rubbed on everybody's face.
Apparently, everyone wants the Future Trunks x Mai rubbed on everybody's face.
Everyone forgot that Mai is at least twice as old as Bulma... 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy
19 April
mAc Chaos was saying:
Damian Qualshy was saying: Okay but why? Like, he's clearly not a berserk right now, he thinks straight. Why go to war?
I think it just changed their mindsets.
I think it just changed their mindsets.
Maybe? I can understand all of the other infected Saiyans, but not Cumber. At the beginning he simply didn't recognize Yamoshi, as if he's a different person. 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy
19 April
Okay but why? Like, he's clearly not a berserk right now, he thinks straight. Why go to war?
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Yamoshi Story page 81
Damian Qualshy
19 April
The text not being properly aligned is a bit annoying.
Is he really transforming into a regular Super Saiyan though? Trunks should be like waaaaay ahead of him, especially with Super Saiyan Rage, if he didn't figure out Rose yet. 1 Replie(s)
The inexorable distortion page 34
Is he really transforming into a regular Super Saiyan though? Trunks should be like waaaaay ahead of him, especially with Super Saiyan Rage, if he didn't figure out Rose yet. 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy
18 April
People are still talking about time travel making no sense, so I want to say (again) how I see it:
*Timeline A:* This is the original future timeline that we see Trunks come from first to create Timeline B. This is also the one where he defeats the Androids using remote control, dies and Cell travels back to create timeline C.
*Timeline B:* This is the timeline that we NEVER see officially. No Cell, and Androids are defeated using the remote.
*Timeline C:* This is the timeline that we follow in Manga and Anime. Pretty straightforward.
*Timeline D:* This is the timeline Future Trunks "went back to", but he experienced Timeline C so he's stronger and defeats the Androids and Cell on his own.
And this is where it gets complicated now...
*Timeline E:* This is the timeline Zamasu switches bodies with Goku, and then travels to Timeline D using a Time Ring, where we see the events of Future Saga unfold in DBS. It originates from Timeline C, we only see it in a flashback. The split happens because of Trunks again and because of that you could argue that this is Timeline C and DBS from that point follows a Timeline E instead, but that's confusing.
*Timeline F:* This is supposedly timeline where Freeza destroyed the Earth and Whis doesn't rewind time.
*Timeline G:* This is supposedly timeline where Zamasu kills Gowasu and Whis doesn't rewind time.
Timelines F and G (in my opinion) shouldn't even exist, because we don't know how exactly does Whis rewinding time work. Does it actually create split timelines? He's an angel after all, he can do ANYTHING and doesn't need to be bound by such rules.
*Timeline H:* This is the future timeline that Future Trunks creates at the end of Future Saga in DBS, because he traveled back (again) to "his own" timeline but before Goku Black showed up. Theoretically, this comic should follow Timeline H.
Time Rings we see Gowasu holding don't seem to showcase this properly, as the amount of them doesn't stick. BUT we know that Universe 11 had a time machine and it's why time travel is prohibited in the first place, iirc. Both Infinite Zamasu (in the manga) and Gowasu (in the Anime at least) mention it.
And now.. Every time we see Immortal Zamasu, he's from the Timeline D. Every time we see Goku Black, he's from the Timeline E.
Beerus destroying Zamasu in Timeline C didn't affect Timeline D or Goku Black, but why? He's a deity after all. Well.. Their reasoning was that Time Ring protected him, and I can buy it. However I can't understand is why people still ask why is Goku Black here or think that Immortal Zamasu shouldn't exist in the Future (Timeline D) when he's not even the same character. Like, the first question was literally answered in the show and the other is answered by.. lack of ability to read, I guess?
Boy I hope this won't get removed for being hella off-topic.. But I will be glad if it helps people understand that time travel in the show isn't that much confusing, just kind of brushed off in Future Saga and never properly addressed the mechanics or who traveled where and why. But it's only one additional timeline after all.
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*Timeline A:* This is the original future timeline that we see Trunks come from first to create Timeline B. This is also the one where he defeats the Androids using remote control, dies and Cell travels back to create timeline C.
*Timeline B:* This is the timeline that we NEVER see officially. No Cell, and Androids are defeated using the remote.
*Timeline C:* This is the timeline that we follow in Manga and Anime. Pretty straightforward.
*Timeline D:* This is the timeline Future Trunks "went back to", but he experienced Timeline C so he's stronger and defeats the Androids and Cell on his own.
And this is where it gets complicated now...
*Timeline E:* This is the timeline Zamasu switches bodies with Goku, and then travels to Timeline D using a Time Ring, where we see the events of Future Saga unfold in DBS. It originates from Timeline C, we only see it in a flashback. The split happens because of Trunks again and because of that you could argue that this is Timeline C and DBS from that point follows a Timeline E instead, but that's confusing.
*Timeline F:* This is supposedly timeline where Freeza destroyed the Earth and Whis doesn't rewind time.
*Timeline G:* This is supposedly timeline where Zamasu kills Gowasu and Whis doesn't rewind time.
Timelines F and G (in my opinion) shouldn't even exist, because we don't know how exactly does Whis rewinding time work. Does it actually create split timelines? He's an angel after all, he can do ANYTHING and doesn't need to be bound by such rules.
*Timeline H:* This is the future timeline that Future Trunks creates at the end of Future Saga in DBS, because he traveled back (again) to "his own" timeline but before Goku Black showed up. Theoretically, this comic should follow Timeline H.
Time Rings we see Gowasu holding don't seem to showcase this properly, as the amount of them doesn't stick. BUT we know that Universe 11 had a time machine and it's why time travel is prohibited in the first place, iirc. Both Infinite Zamasu (in the manga) and Gowasu (in the Anime at least) mention it.
And now.. Every time we see Immortal Zamasu, he's from the Timeline D. Every time we see Goku Black, he's from the Timeline E.
Beerus destroying Zamasu in Timeline C didn't affect Timeline D or Goku Black, but why? He's a deity after all. Well.. Their reasoning was that Time Ring protected him, and I can buy it. However I can't understand is why people still ask why is Goku Black here or think that Immortal Zamasu shouldn't exist in the Future (Timeline D) when he's not even the same character. Like, the first question was literally answered in the show and the other is answered by.. lack of ability to read, I guess?
Boy I hope this won't get removed for being hella off-topic.. But I will be glad if it helps people understand that time travel in the show isn't that much confusing, just kind of brushed off in Future Saga and never properly addressed the mechanics or who traveled where and why. But it's only one additional timeline after all.
Damian Qualshy
17 April
King Kindred was saying:
kcheeb was saying: kkk was saying: Stop explaining stuff to your enemy, Trunks!
So this timeline is the result of Beerus erasing Zamazu? It was a bit ambiguous when Whis explained it in Chapter 1. Still, I don't understand how erasing the Zamasu who would eventually become Goku Black can lead to a Goku Black existing in the future. My bet is that something else happened (in addition to Beerus erasing Zamasu) causing a Goku Black to still exist, and arrive earlier than in the original future.
It can't be the timeline where zamasu was eliminated by beet us. That happened in main timeline
I don't think authkr knows what he's doing
There are always two Zamasu. This one hasn't recruited his immortal partner yet. The one that was meant to be the immortal is the one that was erased by Beerus.
So this timeline is the result of Beerus erasing Zamazu? It was a bit ambiguous when Whis explained it in Chapter 1. Still, I don't understand how erasing the Zamasu who would eventually become Goku Black can lead to a Goku Black existing in the future. My bet is that something else happened (in addition to Beerus erasing Zamasu) causing a Goku Black to still exist, and arrive earlier than in the original future.
It can't be the timeline where zamasu was eliminated by beet us. That happened in main timeline
I don't think authkr knows what he's doing
There are always two Zamasu. This one hasn't recruited his immortal partner yet. The one that was meant to be the immortal is the one that was erased by Beerus.
No.. The immortal Zamasu is Future Trunks' timeline Zamasu. Goku Black is the variant of Zamasu that Beerus encountered.
Damian Qualshy
17 April
RetroOVER9000 was saying:
So is this Anime or Manga cannon? If it's Manga Cannon then how will Trunks beat a thousand Zamasu when he Ultimately separates himself? If it's Anime Cannon, how will Trunks beat Zamasu literally morphing with the Universe? Is Zeno going to have to handle things again? There seems to be a lot of possibilities to how this could go. Where is regular Zamasu anyways? Is he not here? Does that mean no fusion between the two to result in Zamasu Squared will be happening?
It should be Manga canon, but I won't go against the idea of using bits from both. Just to make it more interesting.
However..
Infinite Zamasu happened because of the potara fusion. Universe Zamasu happened because he got completely disintegrated, but he's immortal.
Black is killable, Zamasu can be dealt with a Mafuuba. Then again, the cover of this series kind of spoiled what could happen so Trunks apparently fuses with Zamasu. Maybe he defeats Black or pinches him down and takes the earring, seeing no other options than to force the fusion with the immortal Zamasu, and then take care of verymortal Black.
Damian Qualshy
16 April
Paaah was saying:
Damian Qualshy was saying: Tamamo-no-Bae was saying: I bet there is no future Zamasu this time around, or he's not with Black.
Since Whis did intervene, things just turned out differently.
What? When did Whis intervene? How would he and why?
They might count Whis telling Trunks and Mai about this future timeline to return to. That's all I can think though since in the main story before these events Beerus was the one killing a Zamasu (causing this new future to be created).
Also at the start of this story Beerus flat out tells Whis not to help Trunks and Mai (by warning the Gods in the new timeline about Black) since they have "done enough for them already" narrowing down the ways Whis could have intervened to just telling Trunks he could go to a future with a chance Black can be stopped before he arrives but evidently that didn't happen and instead it's back to square one, minus a Zamasu I guess (unless I'm wrong and another does somehow show up).
(I personally think the plan was doomed from the start since Trunks can't warn any Gods since he can't contact them or travel to them
I'm wondering how Zamasu swapped bodies with Goku since this timeline was born after Beerus killed Zamasu before the body swap and future Goku is long dead at this point, but maybe we'll see the Zamasu/Trunks seen on the cover soon or the Goku body can be explained).
Since Whis did intervene, things just turned out differently.
What? When did Whis intervene? How would he and why?
They might count Whis telling Trunks and Mai about this future timeline to return to. That's all I can think though since in the main story before these events Beerus was the one killing a Zamasu (causing this new future to be created).
Also at the start of this story Beerus flat out tells Whis not to help Trunks and Mai (by warning the Gods in the new timeline about Black) since they have "done enough for them already" narrowing down the ways Whis could have intervened to just telling Trunks he could go to a future with a chance Black can be stopped before he arrives but evidently that didn't happen and instead it's back to square one, minus a Zamasu I guess (unless I'm wrong and another does somehow show up).
(I personally think the plan was doomed from the start since Trunks can't warn any Gods since he can't contact them or travel to them
I'm wondering how Zamasu swapped bodies with Goku since this timeline was born after Beerus killed Zamasu before the body swap and future Goku is long dead at this point, but maybe we'll see the Zamasu/Trunks seen on the cover soon or the Goku body can be explained).
It's best to not think about the rules (or lack of them) of time travel in DBS because none of what happened in Trunks' arc made sense. Toss it off as "Time Ring protection" and Beerus having no idea how time travel actually works.
We don't even understand why this timeline diverged in the first place, but I guess it's a ripple effect like with Cell in Z.
Damian Qualshy
16 April
Tamamo-no-Bae was saying:
I bet there is no future Zamasu this time around, or he's not with Black.
Since Whis did intervene, things just turned out differently.
Since Whis did intervene, things just turned out differently.
What? When did Whis intervene? How would he and why? 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy
15 April
And now for the grant re-reveal and possibly a scare for both Zamasus, that they were in fact defeated.
The inexorable distortion page 32
Damian Qualshy
13 April
So Tien is facing Gohan by process of elimination. Almost poetic in a way.
Saigo no Son page 48
Damian Qualshy
13 April
Vault756 was saying:
Damian Qualshy was saying:
Original Cell also had more time to develop and he drank a lot of people to get where he did. This one is rushed to "perfection", and barely out of the tube. His biology lacks the pure power and potential of Frost Demons, all he has is one weak Namek and the three Saiyans, that means one human hybrid at 18k power level and only Namek Saga Vegeta being a Super Saiyan donor.
He IS weaker, has to be. I would confidently say that he should be just above the original's Semi Perfect form, so still formidable but doesn't require Super Saiyan 2 Gohan to be defeated.
Also Cell wasn't "on par" with Kamiccolo. He was outclassed during their first encounter in Gingertown.
In fairness I believe Cell only needed to drink all those people because he was weakened after having to revert to a larval stage to fit in Trunks time machine. An easy detail to forget but Cell was actually on Earth for a year before Trunks arrived the first time. He needed time to grow and had to eat after reaching his imperfect form. Four years of hibernation will do that to you. I fully suspect this fight to be a stomp for Gast but this Cell is probably still fairly strong. It's just an estimate but this version of Perfect Cell is probably around the strength of our semi-perfect Cell, maybe a bit stronger.
Damian Qualshy was saying:
Original Cell also had more time to develop and he drank a lot of people to get where he did. This one is rushed to "perfection", and barely out of the tube. His biology lacks the pure power and potential of Frost Demons, all he has is one weak Namek and the three Saiyans, that means one human hybrid at 18k power level and only Namek Saga Vegeta being a Super Saiyan donor.
He IS weaker, has to be. I would confidently say that he should be just above the original's Semi Perfect form, so still formidable but doesn't require Super Saiyan 2 Gohan to be defeated.
Also Cell wasn't "on par" with Kamiccolo. He was outclassed during their first encounter in Gingertown.
In fairness I believe Cell only needed to drink all those people because he was weakened after having to revert to a larval stage to fit in Trunks time machine. An easy detail to forget but Cell was actually on Earth for a year before Trunks arrived the first time. He needed time to grow and had to eat after reaching his imperfect form. Four years of hibernation will do that to you. I fully suspect this fight to be a stomp for Gast but this Cell is probably still fairly strong. It's just an estimate but this version of Perfect Cell is probably around the strength of our semi-perfect Cell, maybe a bit stronger.
That's why he drank Gingertown which prompted Kami to fuse with Piccolo. What I mentioned was after, which was specifically to slowly gain strength.
He was hungry, yes, this is his way of surviving before becoming Perfect, but it shouldn't exactly make his base power weaker.
Damian Qualshy
12 April
Galvanic was saying:
Vash was saying: Vegeta was at 18k power level when his DNA sample was taken. Goku and Nappa were 7-8k each. Gohan and everyone else were in the low thousands, since it was from the same battle. Unless an older and stronger version of Gohan sample was collected later on. None of the sample was strong enough to even beat Zarbon. This Cell should be a lot weaker than the original.
It's not like original Cell was capped at the power level of his donors. The strongest source he had was King Cold, who died to a Super Saiyan yet he was on par with Kami-fused Piccolo, and eventually surpassed him.
It's not like original Cell was capped at the power level of his donors. The strongest source he had was King Cold, who died to a Super Saiyan yet he was on par with Kami-fused Piccolo, and eventually surpassed him.
Original Cell also had more time to develop and he drank a lot of people to get where he did. This one is rushed to "perfection", and barely out of the tube. His biology lacks the pure power and potential of Frost Demons, all he has is one weak Namek and the three Saiyans, that means one human hybrid at 18k power level and only Namek Saga Vegeta being a Super Saiyan donor.
He IS weaker, has to be. I would confidently say that he should be just above the original's Semi Perfect form, so still formidable but doesn't require Super Saiyan 2 Gohan to be defeated.
Also Cell wasn't "on par" with Kamiccolo. He was outclassed during their first encounter in Gingertown. 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy
11 April
I love how he looks like a combination of all three designs.
And it's in color! God damn! Beautiful.
DB Multiverse page 2479
And it's in color! God damn! Beautiful.
Damian Qualshy
11 April
mAc Chaos was saying:
I'm not sure if Vegeta is just wrong or if it's a mistranslation, but they don't change their power level with their emotions, that is only Gohan. They just can raise it or lower it due to ki control.
Well, I figure that Vegeta mentions that specifically because of Gohan. And emotions play big role regardless in your power level, ESPECIALLY for Saiyans.
Damian Qualshy
10 April
hetap was saying:
It never made sense to me for them to take the scouters off. Like I understand not trusting their initial power level, but you would want it on to see any increases when they do go all out. By taking them off you become blind to what their current power is. (Yes, this is nitpicky, and was an issue in the OG manga, not this one!)
I think they can instinctively know the change anyway, or at least that something hapoened, and it's also being too sure of your own power.
Vegeta picked on Ki Sensing pretty quickly you know, so it is something that Saiyans can do naturally, unlike other species, just like flight and Ki blasts.
Damian Qualshy
10 April
MY BOY CELL IS HERE!
OH yeah he's menacing and he knows it.
DB Multiverse page 2478
CompactCoven was saying:
The angle on Gast here reminds me so much of when he was messing with King Piccolo, I love it!
OH yeah he's menacing and he knows it.
Damian Qualshy
10 April
ZenBuu was saying:
Damian Qualshy was saying: This edgy OC has more detail than most of the comic. Insane.
You just had to leave this comment, right Damian? Can't you just say something nice for once, without getting provoking at the same time? This is honestly kind of sad behavior. You do the same sometimes with the other comics by the way. Just Saiyan.
You know, you don't always have to say something about everything, especially if you don't have something nice to say, a comment that's actually meant to be a compliment... and not a well disguised insult. Sometimes it's better to move on, instead of beating a dead horse. This is the last page, so please just move on.
You just had to leave this comment, right Damian? Can't you just say something nice for once, without getting provoking at the same time? This is honestly kind of sad behavior. You do the same sometimes with the other comics by the way. Just Saiyan.
You know, you don't always have to say something about everything, especially if you don't have something nice to say, a comment that's actually meant to be a compliment... and not a well disguised insult. Sometimes it's better to move on, instead of beating a dead horse. This is the last page, so please just move on.
Okay yeah, sorry, fair enough, and I definitely didn't need to add the "edgy" in the edit either (will have to check my comments on other comics to understand what you mean though, I definitely don't remember being negative/passive-aggressive towards goten-kun work or Blanco for example, but it is my view on myself which is obviously biased).
But it's kind of like the last page where Sayazur made fun of the readers about something that wasn't even the problem with the comic. Do you reckon that was necessary? Or that it's his comic so he can do it?
Neither comments like mine, or Sayazur's recent one here, are justified. And I am sorry for making artists and moderators lives harder, I absolutely do need to work on myself to stop doing that lol. Beating the toxic nature of human isn't easy when you do it long enough.
So, as you said, let's put Broly's story behind us and I am waiting for the next one either way. 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy
10 April
This edgy OC has more detail than most of the comic. Insane.
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DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 82
Damian Qualshy
10 April
Oh yes! It's Super Saiyan 2 instead of Rose!
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The inexorable distortion page 30
Damian Qualshy
9 April
SonkeyDGoofy was saying:
Damian Qualshy was saying: TO BE FAIR he doesn't know Krillin. He was introduced to Gohan as well as Bulma but theoretically the only connection Gohan would have to this place is Goku and ChiChi True but he is wearing the same gi his dad always worn. I'm wondering if Goku will interject by talking to Gohan through King Kai.
Why would Goku ever meet King Kai without Kami vouching for him to Yemma?
Damian Qualshy
9 April
Meng_Shu was saying:
Damian Qualshy was saying: You really use Fandom as your source of information...? And not all of them have it mentioned, like Slug.
"Like several Movie villains, Toriyama had a hand in his development. In particular, his design under even Toriyama's personal sketches often ended up being revised. In order to make his true species a surprise to viewers, in particular, Toriyama added in a special helmet as well as a body suit with gloves to avoid giving away evident Namekian traits."
https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Lord_Slug#Development
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Any source is open to being wrong, but it's reliable enough to take at face value, plus, it is constantly moderated and provides a number of citations.
"Like several Movie villains, Toriyama had a hand in his development. In particular, his design under even Toriyama's personal sketches often ended up being revised. In order to make his true species a surprise to viewers, in particular, Toriyama added in a special helmet as well as a body suit with gloves to avoid giving away evident Namekian traits."
https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Lord_Slug#Development
https://d...png#Development
Any source is open to being wrong, but it's reliable enough to take at face value, plus, it is constantly moderated and provides a number of citations.
Sorry that comma wasn't supposed to be there. Slug has it, Cooler as well I think, but I should have checked the others to be absolutely sure.
I'm just against Fandom overall because the site itself is terrible and indie wikis should be supported instead. That's why I'm taking all fandom wikis with a grain of salt. 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy
9 April
TO BE FAIR he doesn't know Krillin. He was introduced to Gohan as well as Bulma but theoretically the only connection Gohan would have to this place is Goku and ChiChi
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Saigo no Son page 46
Damian Qualshy
8 April
Meng_Shu was saying:
Damian Qualshy was saying: Actually.. Didn't Toriyama design Lychee as well? I know he made almost all of the movie designs, with only a handful being done by others. And just because it's not canon to his work in the manga, doesn't mean it's not his character.
There's no mention of it on DB fandom so likely not. All of the other characters that Toriyama designed have mentions that Toriyama designed them.
There's no mention of it on DB fandom so likely not. All of the other characters that Toriyama designed have mentions that Toriyama designed them.
You really use Fandom as your source of information...? And not all of them have it mentioned, like Slug. 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy
8 April
Razmalian was saying:
So everyone has conveniently forgot this was the story of how Broly was found alone in space covered in ice and instead has chosen to rail the author for not making an easy win on the side of the Universal defenders.
Of course it "doesn't make sense", it's a story about Dragonball using Z Broly of all people. This isn't your personal comeback story like the days of comics where the fan base picks the ending.
And if you all get mad at me for calling the "critics" idiots, just remember:
The comic fan base, when given the option to allow Tim Drake (Robin, later Red Hood) to be saved by Batman and live, or die to the Joker...
...CHOSE TO HAVE HIM KILLED.
NONE OF YOU ARE ANY DIFFERENT. Get over yourselves or write your own stories.
Of course it "doesn't make sense", it's a story about Dragonball using Z Broly of all people. This isn't your personal comeback story like the days of comics where the fan base picks the ending.
And if you all get mad at me for calling the "critics" idiots, just remember:
The comic fan base, when given the option to allow Tim Drake (Robin, later Red Hood) to be saved by Batman and live, or die to the Joker...
...CHOSE TO HAVE HIM KILLED.
NONE OF YOU ARE ANY DIFFERENT. Get over yourselves or write your own stories.
OK Mr Copium, this isn't about Z Broly and never was, because it's Salagir's DBM Broly. And no one cares that they didn't win, we care HOW they lost and a bit about some other headcanon shenanigans about how the DB universe works in Sayazur's mind.
And if you want to act smart, at least get your facts straight. It was Jason Todd. It was also a hundred years ago and Jason wasn't even a good Robin, get over it. 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy
7 April
FearfulDivine was saying:
RetroOVER9000 was saying: With this one it's not that readers are complaining all the time, it's just you made a bad story. It happens. Not every DB story is good. Broly DBM is just garbage. You want to see Broly done right? Go watch Ultra Vegito. THAT is how you write Broly. Not this ever growing invincible "oh no his power goes higher higher higher nonsense.
Bro Ultra Vegito is even worse LMFAO this is 10x better then that
Bro Ultra Vegito is even worse LMFAO this is 10x better then that
10x zero is still zero.
Damian Qualshy
7 April
Actually.. Didn't Toriyama design Lychee as well? I know he made almost all of the movie designs, with only a handful being done by others. And just because it's not canon to his work in the manga, doesn't mean it's not his character.
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DBMultiverse Colors page 321
Damian Qualshy
6 April
Duality of Gero, he's either very emotional or very straight to the point. I wonder if Cell will be revealed right now, maybe he's hiding already.
Also, he's a Saiyan. I know Goten and Trunks were eternally toddlers in DBS until Super Hero but just least look at Goku when he showed up at the last Tenkaichi Budokai.
DB Multiverse page 2477
mAc Chaos was saying:
Nan-chan was saying: We still need an official explanation why he is older than videl, not just about height but age, videl is at best 10 or 11, and this gohan is prolly looking older than his 11 yrs old age
I do bet on hyperbolic machine but it's not yet confirmed
you dont need an explanation for everything
I do bet on hyperbolic machine but it's not yet confirmed
you dont need an explanation for everything
Also, he's a Saiyan. I know Goten and Trunks were eternally toddlers in DBS until Super Hero but just least look at Goku when he showed up at the last Tenkaichi Budokai.
Damian Qualshy
5 April
Krillin, you and Gohan had like 5 minutes of getting to know each other. He was four, saying he's "one of us" is a biiig stretch.
Saigo no Son page 45
Damian Qualshy
5 April
FishNChips was saying:
This Vegeta is probably Vegeta Sr., the father and future king of planet Plant, rebranded into planet Vegeta.
Will Yamoshi and others fail? Hmm
Will Yamoshi and others fail? Hmm
This feels too short of a time period for all those drastic changes between the Saiyan culture. Would make sense if it was at least Vegeta's (our Vegeta) great grandfather.
Damian Qualshy
5 April
Sayazur was saying:
jonathan_vik was saying: Okay, I think this joke has been run into the ground. Are there going to be any actually fights?
No. You (not you personnaly, the readers who complains all the time) get 70 pages of that and you get mad. Now, enjoy what you wanted since the beginning : A story were Broly is defeated by logic ;)
No. You (not you personnaly, the readers who complains all the time) get 70 pages of that and you get mad. Now, enjoy what you wanted since the beginning : A story were Broly is defeated by logic ;)
Actually what we wanted was a fight where people don't make stupid decisions and Broly is a real menace (like at beginning where he squashed Cell) instead of everyone being completely oblivious to what they can and should do. While the joke was fun, this is just you being salty at this point in that comment, I'm sorry. 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy
5 April
That is a great look for him. I'm glad the artist of this chapter doesn't just pull from designs of Cell Arc or Buu Saga and makes something work in between those two. Really thought out.
DB Multiverse page 2476
Damian Qualshy
3 April
OH MY GOD, this is worse than what he did to Bulma
The inexorable distortion page 27
Damian Qualshy
2 April
JetMalakai was saying:
MajinPower was saying: They’ll show us all the power of Gohan Super Sayan but he is not in the tournament why?
Because the new Cell released by Gero will kill him in the next chapterbefore getting killed by Gast!
Gohan does not like fighting. Period, end of sentence. He only went in 16/18 because his friends and family went, and he's just a spectator.
Come on guys, we saw Piccolo go upside Goku's head with a clue by four about this. Gohan is basically never going to fight unless there's something important on the line or if someone is pushing him to do it. This was initially framed as a tournament for fun. He didn't do squat until people started going crazy and killing the audience members.
Because the new Cell released by Gero will kill him in the next chapterbefore getting killed by Gast!
Gohan does not like fighting. Period, end of sentence. He only went in 16/18 because his friends and family went, and he's just a spectator.
Come on guys, we saw Piccolo go upside Goku's head with a clue by four about this. Gohan is basically never going to fight unless there's something important on the line or if someone is pushing him to do it. This was initially framed as a tournament for fun. He didn't do squat until people started going crazy and killing the audience members.
Gohan is like that specifically because there's always Goku around to do the fighting for him. This was even his reasoning for not training in DBS Broly and he was scolded for it by Piccolo.
Future Gohan and this one should be completely different, because there's no Goku around to help everyone. He needs to take the mantle and use his potential to protect everyone.
It's a big flaw of his character, albeit absolutely understandable for these two that they would hate fighting, but it would be really helpful if it would grow on them and they would actually do some good rather than fight only to survive.
Damian Qualshy
2 April
And Gohan will be revealed under the suit now. Hopefully in all his Cell Saga mixed with Future Gohan design glory.
Well I wouldn't say Gohan wouldn't take the chance. Everyone else did, after all.
DB Multiverse page 2475
Shallot was saying:
MajinPower was saying: They’ll show us all the power of Gohan Super Sayan but he is not in the tournament why?
Because the new Cell released by Gero will kill him in the next chapterbefore getting killed by Gast!
Either that or he didn't want to enter the tournament. Kinda like why Krillin didn't come with Gast. Gohan doesn't love fighting and reviving his dad isn't possible. Living in peace seems more like him.
Because the new Cell released by Gero will kill him in the next chapterbefore getting killed by Gast!
Either that or he didn't want to enter the tournament. Kinda like why Krillin didn't come with Gast. Gohan doesn't love fighting and reviving his dad isn't possible. Living in peace seems more like him.
Well I wouldn't say Gohan wouldn't take the chance. Everyone else did, after all.
Damian Qualshy
2 April
Sam Zebrado was saying:
I don't know why I have this feeling, but the previewing eyes seem better if they are not green as usual, e.g., red eyes... well
Bardock never had different eye color when he had visions, though..?
Dicax was saying:
I went back and re-read the end of the Goku/Vegeta fight. Bra seems more impressed with SSJ0 or SSJ Normal or whatever it is called than this suggested.
Also, she got rid of the ponytail after the Majin rebellion and it persists still.
Damian Qualshy
2 April
Would he have this suit in the official comic though or is it for the memes
DB Blancoverse page 107
Damian Qualshy
1 April
Oh I would have never expected Blue Popo to be here.
Chibi Son Bra did her best! page 198
Damian Qualshy
31 Mars
DeathToKakarot was saying:
Eldagusto was saying: Your nickel was saying: How was Gohan handling three Androids by himself in base on the last page? Unless he was made an Android himself, that is
Why do you say he was in base, he was blonde. But yeah I think the androids aren't intended to all be as strong as even gero. He didn't need strength after he killed goku and didn't have a reason to make them stronger then him. Cell was his big strength project. Each Android probably was experimenting specific facets of design he was playing with, not necessarily just making them stronger and stronger. He wanted them to have some degree of autonomy but not enough power to be a problem.
How do we know the white colored hair isn't just part of the costume?
Why do you say he was in base, he was blonde. But yeah I think the androids aren't intended to all be as strong as even gero. He didn't need strength after he killed goku and didn't have a reason to make them stronger then him. Cell was his big strength project. Each Android probably was experimenting specific facets of design he was playing with, not necessarily just making them stronger and stronger. He wanted them to have some degree of autonomy but not enough power to be a problem.
How do we know the white colored hair isn't just part of the costume?
It is, and it's red.
Damian Qualshy
30 Mars
Wait, it slipped my mind before but why would Vegeta even leave Broly alone in U6, and on the Sadala's moon of all places? And why are they attacking him after allowing him to live on said moon?
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DB Blancoverse page 105
Damian Qualshy
30 Mars
Fussgaenger was saying:
I'm pretty sure too, that he's Gohan. But look his Eyes and Face. Damn, I never saw him so badass. It's not like him. Maybe it's because of the Timeline.
I'm sure too, Vegeta attacked the Earth, after he achieved SSJ, but before Goku died. He don't know that Form otherwise...
I'm sure too, Vegeta attacked the Earth, after he achieved SSJ, but before Goku died. He don't know that Form otherwise...
Vegeta never came to Earth iirc.
As for Gohan looking badass, let me introduce you to Future Gohan. 1 Replie(s)
Damian Qualshy
30 Mars
Teleported_Bread was saying:
Paaah was saying: Damian Qualshy was saying: So.. Before we get more pages, I can only assume that this is where they die. Six months ago. And yet EVERYONE ELSE is still alive after that. Zamasu does a lousy job in this story, where it's assumed in DBS that Earth would be the last of the planets with living inhabitants.
Funny thing really that in Dbs's manga Black and Zamasu actually do kill everyone in the future before the secobd encounter with Goku and Vegeta (they just float around shooting ki everywhere, Trunks and the Kais appear to help but since they were only focusing on Black Zamasu just kills the last guy in a warehouse).
It may not be most peoples favourite version of the arc but I favor it happily, besides some hiccups (like the hakai attempt) it gives actual explanations how Mai or Trunks in seperate occasions escaped Black (someone who should sense any life force or ki being a kai apprentice and all).
Trunks emphasized how little of the population remained when he left and specified how long Goku Black had been rampaging. They did ultimately kill everybody in the anime. I'm not sure what you two are talking about. I didn't mention it before cause I didn't feel like paraphrasing or double checking atm lol
As for the manga, it was bad. Goku mimicking the Hakai like he did with the Afterimage, a vastly different and more simple technique by comparison, is one of those reasons why.
Funny thing really that in Dbs's manga Black and Zamasu actually do kill everyone in the future before the secobd encounter with Goku and Vegeta (they just float around shooting ki everywhere, Trunks and the Kais appear to help but since they were only focusing on Black Zamasu just kills the last guy in a warehouse).
It may not be most peoples favourite version of the arc but I favor it happily, besides some hiccups (like the hakai attempt) it gives actual explanations how Mai or Trunks in seperate occasions escaped Black (someone who should sense any life force or ki being a kai apprentice and all).
Trunks emphasized how little of the population remained when he left and specified how long Goku Black had been rampaging. They did ultimately kill everybody in the anime. I'm not sure what you two are talking about. I didn't mention it before cause I didn't feel like paraphrasing or double checking atm lol
As for the manga, it was bad. Goku mimicking the Hakai like he did with the Afterimage, a vastly different and more simple technique by comparison, is one of those reasons why.
Problem with Hakai is Goku in the manga never actually saw it. But it's still not an issue for the technique to be copied, I mean Vegetto's way of dealing with Buu is already very similar to complete annihilation. Goku at this point is more than capable of pulling out a very barebones Hakai, especially with how hard it came to him there.
And no, they didn't kill everyone in the Anime. As a matter of fact, from the beginning of the arc to it's finish, the only person who actually died was Bulma. Otherwise Trunks wouldn't create the Spirit Sword if there was no one left except him and Mai.
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Humans are basically fighting a losing battle, besides Vegeta as you said, the Saiyans have their Oozaru forms, Freeza has an army with guys like Cui who has a power of 18 thousand, Zarbon and Dodoria who are even stronger, the Ginyu Force who again are stronger than the previous ones mentioned and finally Freeza (although I doubt very much that she wants to get involved with beings so below him)
Are you saying Cui is a threat? Lol.
We'll have to see how they will do against Vegeta, THEN we can say if it's a losing battle.