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Just a fellow fan of DBM.
Here's a face reveal:
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Cell is best boy.
Here's a face reveal:
Cell is best boy.
Gogeta Blue אמר/ה :
The last time we saw Broly he wasn't even able to compare to 2 super sayains and a super sayain two now he is arguably Super sayain 1 Vegito.
Where did you get that from? All Broly's done is destroy most of the planet, which Vegeta could do when he first showed up on Earth. This level of damage is very similar to what Frieza did to Namek, so it's not even like this is an insane feat we've never seen before.
Gogeta Blue אמר/ה :
ALSO WHAT TRIGGERED HIS STUPID ASS to come running back to Earth
I dunno. Maybe because it's the planet he last saw Kakarot on? We know he has a thing against Goku, even if it's a different reason than in the OG Broly movies. This is Kaiba levels of determined to get his salty runback. 1 תגובה/תגובות
ssjlucario אמר/ה :
It's still sad to see him die even though he's bit the dust multiple times already.
What hits it home for me is how willing he was to accept his fate. He had no will to survive after what he sensed. 2 תגובה/תגובות
BobCros אמר/ה :
DuburaLytas was saying:
Chichi also has been seen to go kaio-Ken a couple times
Chichi also has been seen to go kaio-Ken a couple times
When? I don't remember this happening... ever. Chi-Chi hasn't even been in a fight since Raditz showed up, if I'm correct. 2 תגובה/תגובות
Grimael אמר/ה :
Does not compute. Had the time to TP about and grab everyone, could have just TP'd to one of the many planets he knows of that supports life. Even Yardak. He has many peeps there,just grab them and go. He has done similar things in DBZ, so saying that he wont go without every one NOT there in THIS situation is bull. Goku would. Instead he wants to stand there and wait for a world ending explosion. Dafaq. Tired of life?
Why didn't Goku just instant transmission away after taking Cell to King Kai's? He should have been able to, he's been on Earth almost his entire life.
Why didn't he save Gohan, Piccolo, Goten, and Trunks when Buu did the exact same thing Broly did now? There wasn't enough time to concentrate and find the planet.
Imagine you just sensed your son, granddaughter, and that one guy who stole your dub from Buu's daughter all just died in an instant. Now, your best friend is in front of you in shambles, stating there's no way to save everyone. Would you be able to focus on energy that's extremely far away and takes focus?
Goku... you're gonna have to pay for that mug.
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It's pretty cool to see how active Rogeru is being in the comments. I always think it's cool to see the artist interact with the comments. Keep up the good work dude!
Define "average".
But it's fine, Broly's power is maximum-er.
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babagareeb אמר/ה :
this comment demonstrates the IQ level of the average DBM fan
Define "average".
Twocatclaw אמר/ה :
So it looks like broly is going to have to be super OP to beat everyone it seems
But it's fine, Broly's power is maximum-er.
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MrLittleFatBoy אמר/ה :
Garlic Jr first appearance in DBM and it looks fucking mint
Kinda, he also appears on Page 936 as a cameo.
I would like to point out there is now officially more Garlic Jr. in DBM than there is in Dragon Ball mobile games.
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All the references! My Xenoverse/Heroes loving heart is melting!! Also, Babidi statue for the win.
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I think it's kinda a nice touch that Babidi's eyes are pointing in different directions. Of course he didn't look in the same direction constantly while being turned into stone. So, it only makes sense his eyes would point in different directions. Nice touch Asura!
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OmniGogeta אמר/ה :
I feel uncultured as hell. At the time of writing this comment, I have no clue who Cerberus is, as many other commenters are mentioning.
No worries, it's not a lack of culture, more a switch of subjects. Cerberus is an mythological creature from real religions, Greek being the most prominent if I'm correct. There has been no reference to a cerberus in DB before, but Dabura being King of the Demon Realm might mean he owns a version of Cerberus. 2 תגובה/תגובות
Put money here! Who's gonna be the dog that Dabura gives Buu?
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CrystalMV אמר/ה :
Then the question arises, why did they accept the bad guys into the tournament to begin with? Like, if you're looking for the most powerful fighters in existence but you're paranoid enough to kill the Legendary Super Saiyan when he's just a baby, then surely you would be paranoid enough not to take any risks with the bad guys so you'd want to make sure all fighters you're looking for are good guys.
But then you hit grey area with characters like Bardock. Bardock is a Saiyan who ruthlessly murdered people on his conquest of planets. But, chances are, he would obey the rules in the tournament in order to make his wish. So can he participate or not? It kinda comes down to subjective opinions at that point.
I think the main reason that the Kais allowed the villains to show up was the technology that sends people back to their universes. If the villains act up, we'll just send 'em back. That might've been enough to coerce the Kais into allowing them to participate.
WOOOOO!! Dabura will finally do something about his forced enslavement! Babidi doesn't have his crystal ball on him, so he can't re-control Dabura! Maybe Dabura and Buu can go have a good time in the Demon Realm after killing Babidi!
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Okay, time to give a deep dive on why Vegito is wrong here. Specifically the "I was supposed to win this tournament!" part.
Now, what do I mean by Vegito is "wrong"? I mean, by all factors Vegito should not have come to this tournament expecting to win. Look at Vegito's two components, Goku and Vegeta, to see exactly what I mean.
Goku: Goku, since he was first training with Master Roshi in Volume 2, Tale 28: "Let the training begin", showed his interest in stronger opponents. This is the first time he see someone with skills far above his own in action. (Roshi running 100 meters in 5.6 seconds) From this moment onwards, whenever Goku has faced an opponent stronger than him, he never reacts angrily, or frustrated. He accepts the challenge and tries his best to come out on top. In Volume 5, Tale 53: "The final blow", when Goku loses to Jackie Chun, does he through a fit? Does he say, "Those strange techniques he has, they're so dishonest!"? No, he smiles, looks at Jackie, and says, "Hey, when I've trained more and gotten stronger, you wanna fight me again?". He accepts that Jackie is stronger than him, and sees Jackie as a goal of strength to reach towards. There is no point in Goku's life where he would pout and call his opponent dishonest, just because he lost. He didn't against Jackie Chun. He didn't against Tao or Tien. He didn't against Demon King Piccolo or Piccolo. Not against Raditz, Nappa, or Vegeta. Frieza, Cell, and Buu were no different. Any strange or unusual abilities his opponents had only made him strive to improve himself so he could defeat them. Not for any reason than because he finds combatting strong opponents fun.
Vegeta: Vegeta grew up with one lesson being constantly taught to him. You need victory, and you need to achieve it through any means. This lesson can be seen being applied his entire life. When he killed Nappa. When he tried to destroy the Earth so he could kill Goku. When he killed most of Frieza's men on Namek. When he submitted to Babidi's magic, just so he could be stronger than Goku. I feel like a case for dishonesty doesn't even need to be made for Vegeta. Him being upset about that would make him a massive hypocrite. And Vegeta crazes a challenge just as much as Goku does. When he let Cell reach his perfect form, he did so just to see if Cell's Perfect Form could even stand close to his power. And when Cell broke every ounce of pride in his body, did Vegeta roll over and cry, "Cell's perfect power... it's too dishonest!" No. He got up, got in the time chamber, and got stronger. Because that's how Vegeta's character works. He looks for the thrill in a tough battle.
Just to make my point clear, I don't disagree with giving Vegito some flaws. In fact, I think, if handled correctly, that it could lead to some insanely interesting scenarios. I take issue when the flaws inserted into a character directly conflict everything that character should stand for. Saiyans crave powerful opponents. Goku and Vegeta, specifically, crave strong opponents to spar against. If they thought they would've destroyed this tournament, they wouldn't have entered. It would have bored both of them, and been a waste of their time. Vegito also craves challenge. His fight against Broly is proof of this, allowing Broly to power up so that he can face the best challenge he's faced his entire life. I make these points only hoping to demonstrate how this story can improve, and maybe give a few pointers to any writers who may be aspiring authors or writers, trying to get inspirations from fan works they see online.
Whatever the case may be, thank you, for coming to my Ted Talk. I greatly appreciate your time. :) 2 תגובה/תגובות
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Now, what do I mean by Vegito is "wrong"? I mean, by all factors Vegito should not have come to this tournament expecting to win. Look at Vegito's two components, Goku and Vegeta, to see exactly what I mean.
Goku: Goku, since he was first training with Master Roshi in Volume 2, Tale 28: "Let the training begin", showed his interest in stronger opponents. This is the first time he see someone with skills far above his own in action. (Roshi running 100 meters in 5.6 seconds) From this moment onwards, whenever Goku has faced an opponent stronger than him, he never reacts angrily, or frustrated. He accepts the challenge and tries his best to come out on top. In Volume 5, Tale 53: "The final blow", when Goku loses to Jackie Chun, does he through a fit? Does he say, "Those strange techniques he has, they're so dishonest!"? No, he smiles, looks at Jackie, and says, "Hey, when I've trained more and gotten stronger, you wanna fight me again?". He accepts that Jackie is stronger than him, and sees Jackie as a goal of strength to reach towards. There is no point in Goku's life where he would pout and call his opponent dishonest, just because he lost. He didn't against Jackie Chun. He didn't against Tao or Tien. He didn't against Demon King Piccolo or Piccolo. Not against Raditz, Nappa, or Vegeta. Frieza, Cell, and Buu were no different. Any strange or unusual abilities his opponents had only made him strive to improve himself so he could defeat them. Not for any reason than because he finds combatting strong opponents fun.
Vegeta: Vegeta grew up with one lesson being constantly taught to him. You need victory, and you need to achieve it through any means. This lesson can be seen being applied his entire life. When he killed Nappa. When he tried to destroy the Earth so he could kill Goku. When he killed most of Frieza's men on Namek. When he submitted to Babidi's magic, just so he could be stronger than Goku. I feel like a case for dishonesty doesn't even need to be made for Vegeta. Him being upset about that would make him a massive hypocrite. And Vegeta crazes a challenge just as much as Goku does. When he let Cell reach his perfect form, he did so just to see if Cell's Perfect Form could even stand close to his power. And when Cell broke every ounce of pride in his body, did Vegeta roll over and cry, "Cell's perfect power... it's too dishonest!" No. He got up, got in the time chamber, and got stronger. Because that's how Vegeta's character works. He looks for the thrill in a tough battle.
Just to make my point clear, I don't disagree with giving Vegito some flaws. In fact, I think, if handled correctly, that it could lead to some insanely interesting scenarios. I take issue when the flaws inserted into a character directly conflict everything that character should stand for. Saiyans crave powerful opponents. Goku and Vegeta, specifically, crave strong opponents to spar against. If they thought they would've destroyed this tournament, they wouldn't have entered. It would have bored both of them, and been a waste of their time. Vegito also craves challenge. His fight against Broly is proof of this, allowing Broly to power up so that he can face the best challenge he's faced his entire life. I make these points only hoping to demonstrate how this story can improve, and maybe give a few pointers to any writers who may be aspiring authors or writers, trying to get inspirations from fan works they see online.
Whatever the case may be, thank you, for coming to my Ted Talk. I greatly appreciate your time. :) 2 תגובה/תגובות
So... Vegito's not mad because of his humiliations at the hands of Gast. It's not at his daughter's rampage that left one of his sons dead. It not from the realization that Buu could have prevented it. He's mad because... he constantly loses to magic? I dunno, I kinda think it's dumb for him to be visibly frustrated by this of all things. He seems like he's being childish for losing, which neither Goku nor Vegeta were.
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Captain Carbonite אמר/ה :
Nappa is wondering how he got out the frame haha
"Hey Vegeta! I'm oooooooout of the frame now. Can you see me Vegeta? Maybe this is a power even stronger than Super Saiyan Three! We'll have to call it Super Saiyan Fo-" 1 תגובה/תגובות
Xeos אמר/ה :
Unless Buu can create Cold's soul from scratch or reach into U8 and get Cold's soul it's gotta be Ginyu in that body.
I agree with you, I just think it'd be funny to see Cold's reaction if he was put back in his body right now.
Gogeta Blue אמר/ה :
My real question is where is Cell I want to see his reaction to all of this.
Cell is currently 2 pages back, standing slightly away from the group of Z-Fighters, on panel 2. My real question is where are the mini Cell Jr.s? Were they revived by Zen Buu? How will they feel being taken away from the people they've known they're entire lives (Gohan and Fat Buu) by their father? It's like a soap opera tragedy waiting to happen! 1 תגובה/תגובות
MysticVegito אמר/ה :
It's a simple pic edit, i'm not gonna post it on youtube when there are sites for that, i just dunno which one people usually use here :D
Oh, my mistake I thought it was an audio edit. I've never used it personally, but I've heard that imgur is a good place for uploading images to link to others. I don't know too many places where you can upload a picture like that though.
Xadirius אמר/ה :
That or Kold goes completely ape shit unable to control himself any longer, pissing off Vegito even more.
That or Kold goes completely ape shit unable to control himself any longer, pissing off Vegito even more.
This is the timeline of events I want to see.
MysticVegito אמר/ה :
Btw, everytime i see that image i just can't help but read that in Darkseid's voice. I made an edit of it, but i have no idea where i can upload it so i can show you.
Btw, everytime i see that image i just can't help but read that in Darkseid's voice. I made an edit of it, but i have no idea where i can upload it so i can show you.
Upload it to Youtube. This is something I would legitimately love to see it. 1 תגובה/תגובות
Staarmie אמר/ה :
I wonder if the Cold there is actually Cold, or Ginyu.
"What is going on?! Last I remember, I was in my throne room speaking with a foot soldier! Why am I in my birth form?! And how can I control it so well?"
I would imagine that would be something along what Cold's reaction would be. 1 תגובה/תגובות
Shenron333 אמר/ה :
Hmm, about Wonder Woman, and Marvel Hercules, I think these are just fans cosplaying as them.
Especially that "Herc" doesn't have is beard, is less muscular and also wears a gi.
I don't think that Asura would change their designs (especially that other cameos are identical), with the differences being to show the are just people dressed as Herc and Wondie.
Especially that "Herc" doesn't have is beard, is less muscular and also wears a gi.
I don't think that Asura would change their designs (especially that other cameos are identical), with the differences being to show the are just people dressed as Herc and Wondie.
An example being the Marik Ishtar right behind them, or when Saitama showed up in the crowd? 1 תגובה/תגובות
DrewSaga אמר/ה :
Serigof2 was saying: Ven was saying: Now that the Bra BS is over (i hope), i will tell you all why i dislike this.
It's simple: Because of the excuses and the sob stories. It's the perfect copy of the usual japanese writing, which is as long as the one doing all this is pretty and has some excuse, most people will "forgive" them instantly. It isn't surprising for people who read this crap to forgiving them with all the chronic masturbators around, but the fact that the people in the story do that too for no reason is stupid. It's OK for them to commit genocide as long as they are pretty/handsome and have some "feels" bullshit to make the readers have an easy scapegoat so their unhealthy obsessions aren't so obvious. While Bras sob story was the bare minimum, anything is enough for these people.
As for me, if the story went to the exact same conclusion right up until Bra broke majinization, but when Buu transitions them to where they were, we'd see U16 Bra disemboweling the other Bra with the good ol' mad grin on her face and simply admitting she enjoys killing and destruction. It would have been much better. Obviously the story would have needed to change for that, and we would need to wait longer for the tournament to continue, but at least it would have been fun for me.
To put it plain and simple: Buu is great because he doesn't have any excuses. He does as he pleases because he can. Save everyone on this random planet? Why not. Kill everyone on this random planet? Heh, yes. Put a cannibal plague on this planet? Hilarious! Put a super libido enhancing "plague" on this planet? Have fun!
I realize this makes me a terrible human being, but i'm okay with that.
Not a terrible human being, just immature. You're in the teenage mindset of destruction and chaos and havoc for it's own sake is fun and you know what? It can be. But most people grow up and eventually realize that breaking stuff just for the sake of breaking stuff and wanting to see death and gore and blood and "mad grins" as you put it for their own sake is usually pretty uninteresting. It shows in how you like Buu for just doing whatever he wants, his behavior childlike and impulsive without rhyme or reason, and a worship of his power more than his character.
You can have villains like that, but they're usually boring compared to more composed or even downright sinister villains like Freeza, who isn't just a psycho slasher smile killer. He absolutely delights in crushing people like ants under his heel, but he knows what restraint is, and when he does do it he does it with a touch of grace, making it clear how above them he is, not needing to do more than lift a finger.
The only part you're really onto something with is someone who has no excuses. Someone who doesn't try to explain away what they do: An antagonist who has his reasons and doesn't make excuses for them. They knew what they were doing and own it. Those are the strongest personalities among antagonistic forces, the ones with purpose and unyielding resolve to do it no matter what. They don't need to be forgiven, because they do not believe what they're doing needs to be.
I mean an OPed Tyrant character like Freiza isn't all that interesting even compared to Zeb Buu tbh. He is a cliche on a stick. I mean Cell is more interesting in comparison to either actually even though he also craves destruction and terror.
It's simple: Because of the excuses and the sob stories. It's the perfect copy of the usual japanese writing, which is as long as the one doing all this is pretty and has some excuse, most people will "forgive" them instantly. It isn't surprising for people who read this crap to forgiving them with all the chronic masturbators around, but the fact that the people in the story do that too for no reason is stupid. It's OK for them to commit genocide as long as they are pretty/handsome and have some "feels" bullshit to make the readers have an easy scapegoat so their unhealthy obsessions aren't so obvious. While Bras sob story was the bare minimum, anything is enough for these people.
As for me, if the story went to the exact same conclusion right up until Bra broke majinization, but when Buu transitions them to where they were, we'd see U16 Bra disemboweling the other Bra with the good ol' mad grin on her face and simply admitting she enjoys killing and destruction. It would have been much better. Obviously the story would have needed to change for that, and we would need to wait longer for the tournament to continue, but at least it would have been fun for me.
To put it plain and simple: Buu is great because he doesn't have any excuses. He does as he pleases because he can. Save everyone on this random planet? Why not. Kill everyone on this random planet? Heh, yes. Put a cannibal plague on this planet? Hilarious! Put a super libido enhancing "plague" on this planet? Have fun!
I realize this makes me a terrible human being, but i'm okay with that.
Not a terrible human being, just immature. You're in the teenage mindset of destruction and chaos and havoc for it's own sake is fun and you know what? It can be. But most people grow up and eventually realize that breaking stuff just for the sake of breaking stuff and wanting to see death and gore and blood and "mad grins" as you put it for their own sake is usually pretty uninteresting. It shows in how you like Buu for just doing whatever he wants, his behavior childlike and impulsive without rhyme or reason, and a worship of his power more than his character.
You can have villains like that, but they're usually boring compared to more composed or even downright sinister villains like Freeza, who isn't just a psycho slasher smile killer. He absolutely delights in crushing people like ants under his heel, but he knows what restraint is, and when he does do it he does it with a touch of grace, making it clear how above them he is, not needing to do more than lift a finger.
The only part you're really onto something with is someone who has no excuses. Someone who doesn't try to explain away what they do: An antagonist who has his reasons and doesn't make excuses for them. They knew what they were doing and own it. Those are the strongest personalities among antagonistic forces, the ones with purpose and unyielding resolve to do it no matter what. They don't need to be forgiven, because they do not believe what they're doing needs to be.
I mean an OPed Tyrant character like Freiza isn't all that interesting even compared to Zeb Buu tbh. He is a cliche on a stick. I mean Cell is more interesting in comparison to either actually even though he also craves destruction and terror.
I think the reason all three of these villains have interesting qualities is their strong charisma, making them much more enjoyable than if they had none. Zen Buu's playful-ness makes him very fun to see with his antics. Frieza's antics make him seem very proper and refined as he slaughters everything you've ever known. And Cell... is Cell. Enough said.
ChrisOfChaos אמר/ה :
If Vegito does try to kill Bra again would the Vargas do anything about it since it's his own universe? If not she's in much more danger because nobody from the other universes can protect her or they will get sent back.
They couldn't do anything, since they allowed Frieza to kill Burter.
Yoooo, is that Marik Ishtar?? Also, I wonder who has managed to reached VIP paradise. Do deaths between universes carry over?
Kinda legitimately happy MVP Female Varga is back. She deserves a raise for being the only useful Varga so far.
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Kinda legitimately happy MVP Female Varga is back. She deserves a raise for being the only useful Varga so far.
DrewSaga אמר/ה :
Cell would be calling the pot kettle black actually because he was pulling strings to suit himself while he was Majin so he would actually be worse than Bra in that regard, even if he did less damage. It would be in Cell's best interest to stay silent on the matter.
Cell would be calling the pot kettle black actually because he was pulling strings to suit himself while he was Majin so he would actually be worse than Bra in that regard, even if he did less damage. It would be in Cell's best interest to stay silent on the matter.
I dunno, he was plotting to band a team to take down Babidi, even giving a few of our heroes companion Cell Jr.s (hopefully they're revived with everyone else, Mini Cell Jr.s have lives to live too!) to help fight. The worst thing he did was kill the two Videls, so I'm not too sure if he'd be so worse off then Bra if he called her out. Might even make a friend out of Vegito for doing so.
Yes! Best boi Cell is alive again!!
On that note, I wonder how he'll react seeing basically everyone forgave Bra. 1 תגובה/תגובות
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On that note, I wonder how he'll react seeing basically everyone forgave Bra. 1 תגובה/תגובות
Before I begin, I would like to say goodbye to Ashanark. He was always bringing interesting perspectives into my mind, and its a real shame he's leaving. :(
Vegito is very stressed here, excuse him for not thinking completely rationally. But, if I may ask, what makes you think she's anywhere near Gohan status? Gohan grew up always wanting peace and hating fighting. He kept his temper down for the most part, and never allowed his potent power to hurt any of his friends or family. Bra on the other hand, is the exact opposite of this up until now. So, what makes you so certain she'll be able to keep her word and "achieve Gohan status"?
... You can't be serious. The last line is him thanking the comic for the last decade, and you have the nerve to say he needs to be more grateful? That is the most backwards thinking logic I've seen on this site since King4 was still in these comments. Also, what twist? What subversion of expectation was there? The expectation of a good ending? If so, your "opninion" needs to please explain to me what is pretty good about not having a good ending.
You have discovered the best timeline. Thank you so much.
... Why is this so good? Seriously, this still builds up to Vegito's eventual snap that will happen, while still having Bra take the responsibilities she brought onto herself head-on, and accepting her mistakes. The line of her keeping her promise to U19 is just the cherry on top.
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"...I will be alone." and "I won't allow you to judge me.", these quotes don't hint to the subtle anger and fury Vegito has? Those lines build perfectly to Vegito being on the verge of snapping. Also why try and criticize people complimenting the edited pages if your just going to give a passive aggressive comment implying you don't care. If you don't care just leave the people alone and stop trying to stir the pot.
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Dicax אמר/ה :
"And when she reaches level three?"
Duder, she just said she is done trying to be stronger than you in world exploding ways. Bra wants to be her own person who isn't afraid to speak truth to power like the other Bra. She's achieved Gohan status.
Vegetto, and a load of the comments here, just don't get it. Power isn't the end all be all. Go read the Republic- it covered all of this in Book One ~2400 years ago. Your petulant breaks from reading and/or commenting on DBM should give you plenty of time for catching up.
Duder, she just said she is done trying to be stronger than you in world exploding ways. Bra wants to be her own person who isn't afraid to speak truth to power like the other Bra. She's achieved Gohan status.
Vegetto, and a load of the comments here, just don't get it. Power isn't the end all be all. Go read the Republic- it covered all of this in Book One ~2400 years ago. Your petulant breaks from reading and/or commenting on DBM should give you plenty of time for catching up.
Vegito is very stressed here, excuse him for not thinking completely rationally. But, if I may ask, what makes you think she's anywhere near Gohan status? Gohan grew up always wanting peace and hating fighting. He kept his temper down for the most part, and never allowed his potent power to hurt any of his friends or family. Bra on the other hand, is the exact opposite of this up until now. So, what makes you so certain she'll be able to keep her word and "achieve Gohan status"?
Tots אמר/ה :
Ashanark was saying: After 10 years, this is my last post on DBM. Stouty and I are both leaving, since we’re frustrated with the direction the story’s taken. DBM always had its ups and downs but the infatuation with Bra has gotten too strong for me to put up with. Since DBM is a free comic, leaving is the only way I can protest, and anyway I don’t like coming back to complain again and again. I wish Salagir and other team members best of luck.
Final thoughts…
1. Bra has been 100% forgiven, and now everyone will be resurrected…which means this arc is 100% filler. It was only post-Cold we learned 1) Bra was “impure”, 2) she was awful as a child and 3) Vegito threatened her, so honestly if Bra had chatted with U18 Bra after Cold and simply cut out the entire Majin Rebellion, we would’ve saved 4 years and lost nothing.
2. If Bra is now a full-on good guy… then *she is back to who she was in 2008.* DBM spent 12 years adding flaws to Bra just to remove them. We could’ve just stuck to her 2008 characterization and saved all that time, hassle, fan rage, and author favoritism.
3. All Bra’s faults are things she can’t be blamed for: she is absolutely not at fault for her control issues or what she did as a Majin. Take those away (which the story has, through plot convenience) and there’s nothing at all wrong with her. That makes her…a flawless OC, stronger than canon characters, with more screentime than canon characters, whom canon characters jump in to praise and defend. What do we call those?
4. Characters were retconned or acted out-of-character to make this possible. I recommend reading Genghis Khan’s https://dbmenglish.freeforums.net/post/55207">forum post about how Vegito isn’t as bad as he’s painted. But Gotenks, U18 Bra—even Pan and Vegeta (who’s been silent as he’s been called out by Gotenks) have acted inconsistently. Now U19: “Oh wow, this person murdered Phipsil and Ned and we come from a universe where resurrections are impossible. In fact, we were so distraught by Tidar dying we had a moment of silence for him at lunch despite knowing he’d be resurrected! But nah, let’s just pass this off as ‘family issues’ and be done with it.” So… how many people is that acting out-of-character for Bra, now?
DBM’s writing has become more and more contrived in recent years. Things happen with no foreshadowing or buildup or else offscreen, presumably for “surprise” purposes. But a surprise that doesn’t make any sense isn’t surprising the second readthrough, and still doesn’t make any sense. DBM has GT and DBS’s mistakes to learn from and yet it’s made the same mistakes—sometimes even worse. DBM was specifically intended to be a better DBZ sequel than GT, but I’m not sure what GT left out which a character like Bra is supposed to fix…and she certainly hasn’t done the job well.
Anyway, thanks for the 10 years!
I think you need to be more grateful. Are you a writer or something? You are welcome to write your own arc.
My opninion is that this is pretty good twist.
Final thoughts…
1. Bra has been 100% forgiven, and now everyone will be resurrected…which means this arc is 100% filler. It was only post-Cold we learned 1) Bra was “impure”, 2) she was awful as a child and 3) Vegito threatened her, so honestly if Bra had chatted with U18 Bra after Cold and simply cut out the entire Majin Rebellion, we would’ve saved 4 years and lost nothing.
2. If Bra is now a full-on good guy… then *she is back to who she was in 2008.* DBM spent 12 years adding flaws to Bra just to remove them. We could’ve just stuck to her 2008 characterization and saved all that time, hassle, fan rage, and author favoritism.
3. All Bra’s faults are things she can’t be blamed for: she is absolutely not at fault for her control issues or what she did as a Majin. Take those away (which the story has, through plot convenience) and there’s nothing at all wrong with her. That makes her…a flawless OC, stronger than canon characters, with more screentime than canon characters, whom canon characters jump in to praise and defend. What do we call those?
4. Characters were retconned or acted out-of-character to make this possible. I recommend reading Genghis Khan’s https://dbmenglish.freeforums.net/post/55207">forum post about how Vegito isn’t as bad as he’s painted. But Gotenks, U18 Bra—even Pan and Vegeta (who’s been silent as he’s been called out by Gotenks) have acted inconsistently. Now U19: “Oh wow, this person murdered Phipsil and Ned and we come from a universe where resurrections are impossible. In fact, we were so distraught by Tidar dying we had a moment of silence for him at lunch despite knowing he’d be resurrected! But nah, let’s just pass this off as ‘family issues’ and be done with it.” So… how many people is that acting out-of-character for Bra, now?
DBM’s writing has become more and more contrived in recent years. Things happen with no foreshadowing or buildup or else offscreen, presumably for “surprise” purposes. But a surprise that doesn’t make any sense isn’t surprising the second readthrough, and still doesn’t make any sense. DBM has GT and DBS’s mistakes to learn from and yet it’s made the same mistakes—sometimes even worse. DBM was specifically intended to be a better DBZ sequel than GT, but I’m not sure what GT left out which a character like Bra is supposed to fix…and she certainly hasn’t done the job well.
Anyway, thanks for the 10 years!
I think you need to be more grateful. Are you a writer or something? You are welcome to write your own arc.
My opninion is that this is pretty good twist.
... You can't be serious. The last line is him thanking the comic for the last decade, and you have the nerve to say he needs to be more grateful? That is the most backwards thinking logic I've seen on this site since King4 was still in these comments. Also, what twist? What subversion of expectation was there? The expectation of a good ending? If so, your "opninion" needs to please explain to me what is pretty good about not having a good ending.
Dr Raichi אמר/ה :
I'm done. Goodbye forever.
And this is my canon ending:
Vegito: Well since I'm apparently to blame for everything. I'm leaving. Clearly "we-need-to-protect-the-universe-from-you" Gotenks and "I don't admire you anymore" Bra can handle everything themselves. Goodbye.
Years later Bra reaches ssj3, goes on a rampage and kills everyone. Gotenks and Bra blame Vegito for this. Yenma says bullshit and sends them straight to hell for their fuckup.
Vegito opens an interuniversal pizza delivery where he teleports pizza's across the universe. He becomes a billionaire from this.
@Nahhoklin and Darriel.
Thanks guys.
And this is my canon ending:
Vegito: Well since I'm apparently to blame for everything. I'm leaving. Clearly "we-need-to-protect-the-universe-from-you" Gotenks and "I don't admire you anymore" Bra can handle everything themselves. Goodbye.
Years later Bra reaches ssj3, goes on a rampage and kills everyone. Gotenks and Bra blame Vegito for this. Yenma says bullshit and sends them straight to hell for their fuckup.
Vegito opens an interuniversal pizza delivery where he teleports pizza's across the universe. He becomes a billionaire from this.
@Nahhoklin and Darriel.
Thanks guys.
You have discovered the best timeline. Thank you so much.
Argelios אמר/ה :
And so, this arc is over.
I feel disappointed in the conclusion, so I edited the last 3 pages a little bit to give you an alternative take on it.
And then you would have Bra as a character who has accepted death but would be proven wrong later in the story when she has to protect U16 against Vegetto and XXI.
I feel disappointed in the conclusion, so I edited the last 3 pages a little bit to give you an alternative take on it.
And then you would have Bra as a character who has accepted death but would be proven wrong later in the story when she has to protect U16 against Vegetto and XXI.
... Why is this so good? Seriously, this still builds up to Vegito's eventual snap that will happen, while still having Bra take the responsibilities she brought onto herself head-on, and accepting her mistakes. The line of her keeping her promise to U19 is just the cherry on top.
MariusGon אמר/ה :
Guys, I took a screenshot of the last Ashanark comment before it was deleted.
Here.
Here.
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Darkstar אמר/ה :
Thank goodness we don't have any ending like this.
As much as bra haters are praising it, there is 1 SMALL detail you missed.
The whole point of this arc was not only bra's redemption but also preparing vegito as the final boss villain.
There's little to nothing in this a!ternate take that paints vegito as a villain which he is.
It's just the bra phobics putting all they had said over the years into brA's mouth.
You can't just make a alternate version without knowing the whole script.
It's just so much biased in favor of braphobia.
If this was followed and vegito finally showed his true colors there would be another civil war in comment section as to *HOW SUDDENLY VEGITO TURNED BAD without any backstory or hint beforehand!. BOOOOO!. BS. WE ARE LEAVING THIS COMI C.*
you will all be whining again.
That's the problem. Some people can never just be satisfied.
Anyways dream whatever helps you guys sleep at night.
The rest of us will take the original as cannon Which it rightly deserves
As much as bra haters are praising it, there is 1 SMALL detail you missed.
The whole point of this arc was not only bra's redemption but also preparing vegito as the final boss villain.
There's little to nothing in this a!ternate take that paints vegito as a villain which he is.
It's just the bra phobics putting all they had said over the years into brA's mouth.
You can't just make a alternate version without knowing the whole script.
It's just so much biased in favor of braphobia.
If this was followed and vegito finally showed his true colors there would be another civil war in comment section as to *HOW SUDDENLY VEGITO TURNED BAD without any backstory or hint beforehand!. BOOOOO!. BS. WE ARE LEAVING THIS COMI C.*
you will all be whining again.
That's the problem. Some people can never just be satisfied.
Anyways dream whatever helps you guys sleep at night.
The rest of us will take the original as cannon Which it rightly deserves
"...I will be alone." and "I won't allow you to judge me.", these quotes don't hint to the subtle anger and fury Vegito has? Those lines build perfectly to Vegito being on the verge of snapping. Also why try and criticize people complimenting the edited pages if your just going to give a passive aggressive comment implying you don't care. If you don't care just leave the people alone and stop trying to stir the pot.
Koshej אמר/ה :
1. Dragon Balls are a thing.
2. Atonement for past misdeeds is a thing.
3. Vegetto being part-Vegeta is a thing.
4. Many of you being literally arrogant idiots is ALSO a thing.
FIN.
2. Atonement for past misdeeds is a thing.
3. Vegetto being part-Vegeta is a thing.
4. Many of you being literally arrogant idiots is ALSO a thing.
FIN.
1. Hmm... it seems murder is just fine as long as it can be undone. Any mental trauma from being murdered can be completely ignored!
2. Indeed, shall we let all of the criminals in prisons that have committed homicide out so we can see them atone for what they did?
3. It is. He's also part Goku. If there's a point you want to make, make it and be clear. If you want to state facts, I can do that as well: STR Cooler is the best Dokkan TUR.
4. Many of us, my friend. You part of the arrogant idiot club as well. We all are here.
Jacobo אמר/ה :
"Vegeta and cell both willingly accepted the control because they wanted a power boost and because of that they didn't follow Babidy from second one... So was Cell since he said he had been secretly planning a coup the whole rebellion."
Your points on Vegeta are valid, but Cell did succumb to Babidi's control, if only for a small while. On Page 1627, Cell states that he escaped Babidi's mental control. You cannot escape what you were never contained by. Another piece of evidence is how the Cell Jr. that attacked the Universe 9 apartment behaved. If Cell was under no control when making the Cell Jrs, why did this Cell Jr. want to kill Elder Kai? If Cell was free the entire time, he would have no clue that Babidi wanted the Kaioshins dead. He would've received his power boost and went on his merry way.
Dr Raichi אמר/ה :
Also why does Bra call her dad by his name?
I believe she's talking to Gast here, since he's restricting Vegito at the moment.
Cool little note here, Bra seems to be getting into something that looks like a fighting stance. I just think it's cool this Bra was gonna fight to try and save Videl, as it seems out of character with some of the remarks she's given earlier in the tournament..
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Squirz אמר/ה :
Not exactly. It's more like "Let's say that someone put drugs in my drink without me noticing and I kill a person while going back home in a driving incident". In that case, whose fault is it? Mine? Of the person who put drugs in my drink? Both?
Can't say for sure how law interprets this kind of scenario.
Not exactly. It's more like "Let's say that someone put drugs in my drink without me noticing and I kill a person while going back home in a driving incident". In that case, whose fault is it? Mine? Of the person who put drugs in my drink? Both?
Can't say for sure how law interprets this kind of scenario.
The law says it is actually the person driving depending on the circumstances.
Let's say the accident results in the other party's death, so we can keep the charges as obvious as possible.
The way the law interprets this, the person who put the drugs in the drink could get charged with manslaughter. The person who had put the drugs in the drink can not ever be charged with anything higher than Third-Degree Murder, due to their being no malice aforethought put into killing the random person you hit on the way home. That is, however, only if the drugs cause an almost instantaneous knock out to the person who drank the drink.
If the drink is not an instantaneous pass out for the drinker, it is their duty to pull over as soon as possible when they feel signs of not feeling well. If the driver is still able to make conscious decisions, they are the one to blame, and are charged with manslaughter at best, and third-degree murder at worst.
The case's verdict comes down to subjective opinion at the very end. Is person B guilty since they drugged person A? Or is person A still guilty for knowing they were not feeling well and still driving anyway. In terms of the eyes of the law, the best answer I can provide is both. 1 תגובה/תגובות
redacted אמר/ה :
(comment that an hour and twenty minutes of my life to read)
I would like to say three things:
1) The point you've made is a really good one. Backed up with tons of evidence, and has changed the way I see events playing out.
2) The fact you made an account to type out this one message is absolutely insane. I think this is the single longest comment on a website like this I have ever seen. You absolute Mad Lad.
3) I would like to know how much of your life did you spend typing out that entire comment.
DrewSaga אמר/ה :
I see where your coming from, it would have been amazing to see Bra win with one arm against all of them but she would have bled out in practice and lost early in reality. U13 Vegeta had an injury that was severe and he lasted like a few seconds.
To be fair, U13 Vegeta was a Super Saiyan 3 with that wound, which was stated to be why he fell so quickly. I could use the Majinization Boost as a strawman and say since it's giving Bra a boost, and since Super Saiyan 2 has less of a strain on the body, that she could reasonably hold out for quite a while, even with an arm cut off. I don't know if cauterizing a limb would be going a little too dark for a DB Fan Comic, but a Ki Blade to the open wound sounds like a solid way to stop the bleeding as well.
James Wilkins אמר/ה :
I just remembered...
While all of this is happening, and everybody here is debating a great deal of topics (civilly), there's a certain someone who has been eating Breakfast and will probably walk out when all of this is fixed and go "Did I miss something?"
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While all of this is happening, and everybody here is debating a great deal of topics (civilly), there's a certain someone who has been eating Breakfast and will probably walk out when all of this is fixed and go "Did I miss something?"
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And then we'll have a literal Mary Sue moment. There is a part of me who wants to see it happen, even if it might not be best option from a story writing standpoint.
Monster אמר/ה :
Guys, all of Bardocks predictions likely won't happen. Remember Babidi was supposed to die very early on in the conflict by Gohan, that future was adverted which led to the destruction of Majin Bra. We have no idea if any of those visions were come true because the timeline is changed
That's... a genuinely good point I hadn't thought of. Chances are things could end up just a little different than Bardock's OG vision. 1 תגובה/תגובות
عمار אמר/ה :
Also, what was the point of Immortal Kakarotto?
Well, besides it making him a monster during the Majin Rebellion, it gives Porunga less work to do.
Automousultrareader אמר/ה :
Hey is beerus dead
It's what he gets for eating that one Varga. 1 תגובה/תגובות
J.I.L אמר/ה :
Also, how in the world can they tell which is there father?
They probably can't, but if I saw my dad laying on the floor beaten like that, even if they are from another universe, I would be in a very similar position as Pan is right now. 1 תגובה/תגובות
Quite a few people have tried to say a specific background music would fit this scene very well. I would like to throw my own two cents into that basket, by saying nothing but wind blowing in the back should be playing. While music does add to the drama of a situation, the lack of music can add to the gravity of a situation. I personally thought it helps this scene quite a bit.
Here's an example I thought fit very well : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGkh1W5cbH4
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Here's an example I thought fit very well : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGkh1W5cbH4
Jotaro Kujo אמר/ה :
im wondering where the FUCK XXI went
To "The Unintersting Character Shadow Realm". Who knows if he'll get out.
XisBack אמר/ה :
At this point I don't remember anymore what was the reason for Babidi to start this revolt.
He had everything to lose (he didn't respect the rules, so now the other people can't be blamed if they don't respect the rules either and kill him definitely, freeing his universe from his dictatorship) and nothing to gain.
He had everything to lose (he didn't respect the rules, so now the other people can't be blamed if they don't respect the rules either and kill him definitely, freeing his universe from his dictatorship) and nothing to gain.
His Majin Buu lost, so he really wanted that salty runback.
MUI Vegitp אמר/ה :
vegeta probally was teleported because he has pride
Yeah, it was stated Babidi didn't want to take the risk with any Vegetas this time around.
riceblade אמר/ה :
Poor Babadi...tortured by buu...btw, can someone tell me whats in babadi's mouth? is that his crystal ball?
I think its an apple. Notice the stem poking out? I think Babidi's crystal ball would've been kinda funny for Buu to use as a gag though.
TheTrickster אמר/ה :
1. Cell vs. Dabura; Where Cell removed his head to preserve enough of his body to completely screw over Dabura's spit thing. A very smart thing to do, and showed very well how Cell is probably the most expert tactician in the entire series.
1. Cell vs. Dabura; Where Cell removed his head to preserve enough of his body to completely screw over Dabura's spit thing. A very smart thing to do, and showed very well how Cell is probably the most expert tactician in the entire series.
This is my favorite fight of this story. Seeing both characters interact and figure each other out was one of my favorite things about this story. It's kind of a shame in my opinion that Buu and Cell (and kinda XXI?) are the only villains left in the tournament, since the villains are usually the most interesting characters to see fight. Vegito and Bra using Ki Constructs are probably the most interesting ability any of the Saiyans have shown the entire tournament, and that wasn't even too special. Bra making Ki Clones is by far the highlight of this Ki Construct ability, and is honestly one of the cooler ideas they could explore. Maybe Vegetto could also make one, but he can make a Ki Clone that can also fight?
Getting back on point, I kinda want Goku and Vegeta to lose so Uub and Cell can fight, since I believe that would be way more interesting of a bout than any of the other three options. I feel like the bits of magic that Uub has and the Mastery of so many techniques that Cell has that could be super interesting. How cool could a Four-Witches Technique Cell vs. a Maximum-Kaioken Uub match be? Just some food for thought.
Thanks for reading my dumb idea, and this concludes my Ted Talk. 2 תגובה/תגובות
Turbocharger אמר/ה :
@Classy_Skeleton
Vegetto sees a ded Gohan, picks him up
For 2 reasons this won't happen
1) Vegetto might not be subtle, he wouldnt pick up the corpse of his son by the NECK
2) Gohan was shown to have a shirt on that was undamaged. I doubt Gogeta Jr would have done this by accident or by oversight.
@Classy_Skeleton
Vegetto sees a ded Gohan, picks him up
For 2 reasons this won't happen
1) Vegetto might not be subtle, he wouldnt pick up the corpse of his son by the NECK
2) Gohan was shown to have a shirt on that was undamaged. I doubt Gogeta Jr would have done this by accident or by oversight.
The shirt point is actually a very good one. I went back and double checked which Gohan Vegetto picked up, and it is Gohan with a shirt, who is still alive (just with a very decked shnozz). Gohan does look dead in the flashback, so I wonder if Vegetto ends up killing him, or if he expires from his wounds.
Michelrpg אמר/ה :
@Classy_Skeleton
The evidence being the entire audience, Babidi, Fat Buu, Goten, U18 Bra, both Gohans, both Piccolos, the armor warriors, Cell, a bunch of mini-cells, Bardock, and the Grand Supreme Kai. Oh and Zen Buu. So yeah...practically everyone knows. And unless a wish is made to have everyone forget about this (which I doubt but hey, it worked for fat Buu), someone WILL speak up.
@Classy_Skeleton
The evidence being the entire audience, Babidi, Fat Buu, Goten, U18 Bra, both Gohans, both Piccolos, the armor warriors, Cell, a bunch of mini-cells, Bardock, and the Grand Supreme Kai. Oh and Zen Buu. So yeah...practically everyone knows. And unless a wish is made to have everyone forget about this (which I doubt but hey, it worked for fat Buu), someone WILL speak up.
Zen Buu or Cell would probably be the first one to speak up, trying to taunt Vegetto or something like that, but my idea did have everyone silent. You've made a good point though; I hadn't really taken Buu telling everyone into consideration.
Jotaro Kujo אמר/ה :
that... makes sense a bit
that... makes sense a bit
Thanks, I was afraid it sounded a little strange.
IchigoMait אמר/ה :
That's never gonna happen, Vegito isn't an idiot, he already knows what Babidi is capable of, he is just pissed that Bra was not capable of controlling herself, considering what Vegeta went through as a Majinized villain. He has all the memories of both lives, he is basically 140 years old or so, mentally at least. And he clearly knows what happened there, Vegito for sure will know what happened there, he had hopes that Bra would be better for her own sake and others, that's why he is so pissed at her in the first place.
That's never gonna happen, Vegito isn't an idiot, he already knows what Babidi is capable of, he is just pissed that Bra was not capable of controlling herself, considering what Vegeta went through as a Majinized villain. He has all the memories of both lives, he is basically 140 years old or so, mentally at least. And he clearly knows what happened there, Vegito for sure will know what happened there, he had hopes that Bra would be better for her own sake and others, that's why he is so pissed at her in the first place.
While he does know what Babidi can do, he specifically stated while with the other warriors that he believed the tournament fighters would be fine since Bra was in the apartments. Bra's Majin-mark... disappeared... leaving no evidence it was her unless someone says what happened. Not saying you have to agree with me, just explaining my view.
Thatboi אמר/ה :
I know I’m probably the only thinking this but, How on would Bardocks visions come
I see it happening something like this:
All of the fighters return to the ring, and everyone is shook at the destruction. Vegetto demands answers, but no one gives a response. Vegetto sees a ded Gohan, picks him up, and declares that "I will kill all of you if I have to!!" in order to get the answers he wants. Bra warns Vegeta and Goku that they could not stop Vegetto, and that no one can stop him. When he starts attacking some of the survivors of the incident. Piccolo declares that even the entire multiverse is at stake here. | That's how I see it tying back to the flashback, at least. 2 תגובה/תגובות
TheTrickster אמר/ה :
SupremeFusionGogito was saying: Why isn't Gohan saving her? Because Boujack has:
"Ki +3 and ATK & DEF +180%; launches an additional attack that has a medium chance of becoming a Super Attack; plus an additional ATK +30% and DEF +15% when attacking with 3 or more Ki Spheres obtained, plus an additional ATK +30% and DEF +15% when attacking with 6 or more Ki Spheres obtained"
True, but Gohan has Ki +3 and ATK & DEF +158%; guards all attacks; plus an additional ATK +58% for the rest of the battle when guard is activated; attacks effective against all types when facing only 1 enemy, whose HP is 58% or more, or when there is a "Majin Buu Saga" category enemy.
If you ask me, Gohan could put up a good fight.
"Ki +3 and ATK & DEF +180%; launches an additional attack that has a medium chance of becoming a Super Attack; plus an additional ATK +30% and DEF +15% when attacking with 3 or more Ki Spheres obtained, plus an additional ATK +30% and DEF +15% when attacking with 6 or more Ki Spheres obtained"
True, but Gohan has Ki +3 and ATK & DEF +158%; guards all attacks; plus an additional ATK +58% for the rest of the battle when guard is activated; attacks effective against all types when facing only 1 enemy, whose HP is 58% or more, or when there is a "Majin Buu Saga" category enemy.
If you ask me, Gohan could put up a good fight.
Both seem kinda pathetic compared to "Ki + 3 and ATK & DEF + 180%; Perform an additional attack which has a medium chance to become a Super Attack. Performs a Critical Hit if there is a "Pure Saiyan" or "Hybrid Saiyan" Category enemy." Just saying.
YardratVegeta אמר/ה :
Nah I think goku was still stronger it’s just he was dead so gohan had to oh yea get super strong then not finish the job again but if gohan was equal to Ssj3 it didn’t feel that way during the fight .. ssj3 was epic transformation and light show and the world shaking but gohan just was really strong maybe he didn’t push all his power through before buu tricked his ass
Nah I think goku was still stronger it’s just he was dead so gohan had to oh yea get super strong then not finish the job again but if gohan was equal to Ssj3 it didn’t feel that way during the fight .. ssj3 was epic transformation and light show and the world shaking but gohan just was really strong maybe he didn’t push all his power through before buu tricked his ass
In the original manga, Gohan's power was greater than Super Saiyan 3. The point of Gohan's power is it wasn't a transformation. He could tap into all of it at will. There was no lightshow because he no longer gives off an aura like that.
Also, Goku was shaking the Earth when he transformed on purpose. He was trying to distract Buu and Babidi long enough for Trunks. If he wanted, the transformation could have been quick and quiet.
FateXternal אמר/ה :
also do chapters increase every wednesday
I believe the release schedule is Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday for new chapters.
"I showed you my Super Saiyan 2 form, now answer me."
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Beat-kun אמר/ה :
also, forgot to explain this, he even obtained ssj3 in canon the way u13 vegeta did, he utilized his rage to obtain it.
I may just be dumb here, but I don't remember him saying that in DBM or the original series. I think the most we ever got is that Goku said he went through extreme training in Otherworld, and that's how he discovered it. 1 תגובה/תגובות
So... could Dende not use the Dragon Balls to bring everyone back? He wasn't dead at the end of the fight. I feel like if Dende died, the special would have specifically said so. Dende could have easily wished for everyone killed by Bojack to be brought back.
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I remember there being talk a few pages ago of the fact that more than two people being in the chamber is an inconsistency. While there was a stated rule that only two people are allowed in the chamber at a time, the manga directly contradicts this rule in the Majin Buu Saga. When Buu gets impatient of waiting for Gotenks to appear, Piccolo and Buu enter the chamber. At that moment; Goten, Trunks, Piccolo and Buu are all in the chamber at once. That's twice the supposed limits the chamber should have. I believe the chamber having a two person rule is due to the chamber only having enough resources for two people to survive and be able to train effectively. It would explain why Vegeta, Trunks, Goku, and Gohan had to go in as pairs, but Buu, Gotenks, and Piccolo could all be in the Time Chamber.
Sorry for bringing up an older topic, I just feel it still holds relevant to these current pages.
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Sorry for bringing up an older topic, I just feel it still holds relevant to these current pages.
Arcady Picardi אמר/ה :
For me the problem with SSB and SSG is it's narratively useless. Every Saiyajin's transformations talk about something.
The Triple Kaïoken
The Kaioken is the first step in understanding the different transformations of the Saïyans.
It is about a gain of energy, a discharge of adrenaline and the more one goes up in the quantity of power "requested" the more the reaction for the body is violent. In the fight against Vegeta, Goku goes beyond his limits by summoning the Triple Kaioken. Her body is raw, the reddened skin tears in places, and every vein and streak in her muscles becomes apparent.
This technique makes the body monstrous and injures its user ...
The Super Saiyan is logic after that because Kaioken explaint that too much power is dangerous for the body.
In addition, during his fight, Freeza explains that he must transform in order to be able to control his insane energy.
It is the same with the Saiyen. For my part, I consider that from a certain point in the training, they "unlock" an additional power pack.
But this one is so huge that it would destroy the body of its host then in order to be able to control it, the Saiyans pass to a higher state.
At this level the warrior's muscles swell slightly and are more drawn. We have here an ideal fighter who is as imposing as he is mobile...
In the Cell saga, we discover that the transformation into a super Saiyan has several levels of power. The concern is that the body is only increasing the volume of the muscles to be able to channel this power. Here it is underlined by the fact that they are more apparent, drawn and inflated. The fighter will even grow a little. This capacity of the body to inflate poses a real problem because it arrives at a time when the mass taken is so enormous that it decreases the speed and the dexterity of the fighter.
A body absolutely not made for the fight which returns to that of the extreme bodybuilders who do not shape themselves to fight.
(For my part, I consider that Broly is stuck in this transformation which is similar to that of Hulk.)
While he can't move because he has too big muscles, the body of the Saïyen is transformed to be able to manage all this energy.
The body is refined, it is even thinner than the normal Super Saiyan but much more traced, fast and dangerous. Lightning appears and the hairstyle becomes electric.
All the faults of the previous transformations disappear to leave room for a body perfectly chiseled for combat and wielding monstrously great power. The SSJ2.
Once you get to ssj2, the body doesn't need to transform further.
So the only thing he can have is extra strength gain that he can control. The ssj3 is kind of an ultimate Kaïoken for super saïyen except that the body which it obtains during the second transformation is sufficiently resistant only to take the discharge of energy and to have as a consequence only extreme fatigue and a limited time of use.
Personally, I like the SSJ4 transformation fort DBGT because it makes perfect sense in the various transformations that already exist and in addition really original in its design.
Once one has mastered the ultimate level of transformations, there remains a final stage for the Saïyen to reach.
Control of the energy developed during transformation into an ozaru.
What should be remembered is that during this transformation, the power is multiplied by 10.
The Saïyen 4 offers a warrior body that allows 10X control of the considerable power developed during the Saïyen 3.
It's an ultimate form that no longer needs an extra stage.
Here the body is reminiscent of that of the gorilla and even if the muscle mass gain is greater than in ssj2, speed and dexterity are not less reduced.
And that's why SSB and SSG are useless. It talk about nothing. the SSG says it's news because is faster and thiner but SSJ2 does it too. All the transformation before explore all the particularities of a good fighter. It no need more, certainly if it's for only making "more powerful" :)
The Triple Kaïoken
The Kaioken is the first step in understanding the different transformations of the Saïyans.
It is about a gain of energy, a discharge of adrenaline and the more one goes up in the quantity of power "requested" the more the reaction for the body is violent. In the fight against Vegeta, Goku goes beyond his limits by summoning the Triple Kaioken. Her body is raw, the reddened skin tears in places, and every vein and streak in her muscles becomes apparent.
This technique makes the body monstrous and injures its user ...
The Super Saiyan is logic after that because Kaioken explaint that too much power is dangerous for the body.
In addition, during his fight, Freeza explains that he must transform in order to be able to control his insane energy.
It is the same with the Saiyen. For my part, I consider that from a certain point in the training, they "unlock" an additional power pack.
But this one is so huge that it would destroy the body of its host then in order to be able to control it, the Saiyans pass to a higher state.
At this level the warrior's muscles swell slightly and are more drawn. We have here an ideal fighter who is as imposing as he is mobile...
In the Cell saga, we discover that the transformation into a super Saiyan has several levels of power. The concern is that the body is only increasing the volume of the muscles to be able to channel this power. Here it is underlined by the fact that they are more apparent, drawn and inflated. The fighter will even grow a little. This capacity of the body to inflate poses a real problem because it arrives at a time when the mass taken is so enormous that it decreases the speed and the dexterity of the fighter.
A body absolutely not made for the fight which returns to that of the extreme bodybuilders who do not shape themselves to fight.
(For my part, I consider that Broly is stuck in this transformation which is similar to that of Hulk.)
While he can't move because he has too big muscles, the body of the Saïyen is transformed to be able to manage all this energy.
The body is refined, it is even thinner than the normal Super Saiyan but much more traced, fast and dangerous. Lightning appears and the hairstyle becomes electric.
All the faults of the previous transformations disappear to leave room for a body perfectly chiseled for combat and wielding monstrously great power. The SSJ2.
Once you get to ssj2, the body doesn't need to transform further.
So the only thing he can have is extra strength gain that he can control. The ssj3 is kind of an ultimate Kaïoken for super saïyen except that the body which it obtains during the second transformation is sufficiently resistant only to take the discharge of energy and to have as a consequence only extreme fatigue and a limited time of use.
Personally, I like the SSJ4 transformation fort DBGT because it makes perfect sense in the various transformations that already exist and in addition really original in its design.
Once one has mastered the ultimate level of transformations, there remains a final stage for the Saïyen to reach.
Control of the energy developed during transformation into an ozaru.
What should be remembered is that during this transformation, the power is multiplied by 10.
The Saïyen 4 offers a warrior body that allows 10X control of the considerable power developed during the Saïyen 3.
It's an ultimate form that no longer needs an extra stage.
Here the body is reminiscent of that of the gorilla and even if the muscle mass gain is greater than in ssj2, speed and dexterity are not less reduced.
And that's why SSB and SSG are useless. It talk about nothing. the SSG says it's news because is faster and thiner but SSJ2 does it too. All the transformation before explore all the particularities of a good fighter. It no need more, certainly if it's for only making "more powerful" :)
Wow, that's actually a really interesting way of looking at it! I can definitely see what you're talking about with them feeling like new transformations for the sake of empty flashy transformations. Thanks for sharing that with me! :)
misi אמר/ה :
Uhm, it's a bit difficult to explain where I stand. I believe in something similar what @Arcady Picardy said above. God and Blue are just new colours for the sake of new colours. That's all I see in them. This whole nonsense of X amount of pure-hearted saiyans bla bla blaing and that's the key... And of course, I usually - first and foremost - approach everything from a visual standpoint due to my profession and passion. I absolutely HATE sloppy design work. These are literally all the bad deviantart OC-s we ever saw - green-haired gokus, and purple-haired vegetas...literally people taking the paint bucket in photoshop and just adding a new colour. An additional point: I know this is manga/anime with half-animal creatures, crazy hair and transformation, beam-struggles and everything, not our world, but to me, it "made sense" that the dark-haired saiyan race when they transform (and get golden sparks and whatnot) turn their hair blonde/gold. On a spectrum for real hair - dark hair can become lighter, and in that fantasy world them going full-on platinum blonde for example is absolutely great design choice (and yes, I know how it came to be, Toriyama not wanting to ink Goku's hair, etc..). Now, black hair getting this very unnatural blueish tint is just absolutely horrible looking, and just jarring to me. The red I could stomach maybe, but the transformation itself is dumb to me, so I rule it out. Don't even make me go into SUPERSAIYANGODSUPERSAIYAN, or BLUESTBLUE OF BLUES for Vegeta, that was one of the saddest and lamest things I've seen in terms of transformations. Just, overkill. Ruining something that was otherwise still tasteful. It is such an overkill that these guys can turn their hair into every colour of the rainbow now..
I see what you mean, especially with Blue-per Saiyan God Blue-per Saiyan Plus. The naturality aspect is actually extremely interesting, as I had never taken that into consideration, but that might actually be why the Super Saiyan transformation feels so nice to look at. Thanks for giving me a new look on this!
iron leaf אמר/ה :
The SSJ discussion is quite interesting, but I ask users not to get too off-topic here. Please follow rule 2, and if you want to continue discussing DBS and GT in detail, I suggest to continue the discussion in the forum. There are a handful of threads that deals exclusively with the Saiyan transformations, comparison between DBM - DBS - DBGT and much more.
Who knows, maybe we gonna see Vegeta adding the Kaioken on his SSJ2 to fight Goku here ;)
Who knows, maybe we gonna see Vegeta adding the Kaioken on his SSJ2 to fight Goku here ;)
Understood, sorry for getting slightly off topic.
misi אמר/ה :
If anything, it is an awesome thing. I can't stand blue... :P
If anything, it is an awesome thing. I can't stand blue... :P
If I may ask, what is your issue with the SSB and SSG forms? I have my own personal issues with Blue, but I'm rather curious as to what your issue is with the two of them. 2 תגובה/תגובות
misi אמר/ה :
Nah. Not dumb at all... Ah, sorry friend, I really don't want to point fingers... just because the art of certain specials was sub-par, I don't want to go out of my way to hurt people's feelings :P But I am sure you would find them.. If you just go back and literally check the first few pages of some special from long ago, you'll see, I am certain.
Nah. Not dumb at all... Ah, sorry friend, I really don't want to point fingers... just because the art of certain specials was sub-par, I don't want to go out of my way to hurt people's feelings :P But I am sure you would find them.. If you just go back and literally check the first few pages of some special from long ago, you'll see, I am certain.
I understand, I wouldn't want to hurt someone's feeling either. I think I know which one you guy are talking about now though, and I see what you mean. :P 1 תגובה/תגובות
misi אמר/ה :
C ) A non-professional - rushed - low-quality way of drawing, not close to DB's original style, and it's not polished enough in it's own style. We've seen some notoriously hated specials like this... eek.
What specials fall under this category? I haven't read some of the older specials in awhile, so I'm sorry if I look dumb right now for not remembering. 1 תגובה/תגובות
As a punishment for what she did, I'd say she got of lightly. You killed your brother and an entire star system? Find your own way home and fix it with the Dragon Balls. If you don't stop being threat to the universe, I'll have to kill you. Seems like a pretty cut back punishment compared to what he could have done to her.
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Belsurs אמר/ה :
It's all good; there's gonna be one more. The next chapter starts on the 18th and we're scheduled for another page today. I'm glad, seeing as this page wouldn't make a satisfactory ending to the current special.
Ah, alright; thanks for clarifying! Is there an area where I can see the schedule for page releases? I've looked around to try and see, but have found nothing.
So is this the last page before the new special, or do you guys think we'll get one more?
I'm only asking because it seems weird to end on what Vegito just said. It feels like there should be a follow-up to that line. That might just be me though. 1 תגובה/תגובות
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I'm only asking because it seems weird to end on what Vegito just said. It feels like there should be a follow-up to that line. That might just be me though. 1 תגובה/תגובות
Dude אמר/ה :
since he's such a bad parent.
Can you please tell me what makes Vegito a bad parent in your eyes? The one big moment I see is when he had pushed the responsibility with Bra in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, but moments like this where he says, "I should be proud..." and "You need to learn to control yourself. Otherwise, I won't have a choice." tells me he does have a lot of caring in his heart for her. 1 תגובה/תגובות
XisBack אמר/ה :
> [About a developing arc for Bra]
1) he still cared about being the strongest, but built even something else (a family) vs she still knows only about fighting
1) he still cared about being the strongest, but built even something else (a family) vs she still knows only about fighting
This is the only point you made i have an issue with. After the tournament begins, she does share a few moments where she cares about others. The most notable one in my opinion being Pan's death at the hands of Bojack. You are comparing the majinization of Vegeta and Bra here, (which as fair as they are related by blood) but you have to remember: Vegeta let Babidi control him. It is presumed Bra did not, and her thoughts are clouded by Babidi's magic.
Ashanark אמר/ה :
So:
1) If the flashback last main chapter was meant to make us feel bad for Bra, Vegito here is bad writing because he comes off as completely right; therefore, Bra being sympathetic isn't consistent.
But if 2) that flashback wasn't meant to make us feel bad for Bra, it's bad writing because the timing of the flashback and lack of context clearly portrayed Bra as a victim when this special shows she wasn't.
Or maybe even 3), the author wanted to make Bra look sympathetic while planning to reveal in the literal next special she wasn't, which is ALSO bad writing. (Good ol' SuBvErT eXpEcTaTiOnS, amiright?)
Or maybe 4) it was done to build hype for this special, which similarly doesn't impress me.
1) If the flashback last main chapter was meant to make us feel bad for Bra, Vegito here is bad writing because he comes off as completely right; therefore, Bra being sympathetic isn't consistent.
But if 2) that flashback wasn't meant to make us feel bad for Bra, it's bad writing because the timing of the flashback and lack of context clearly portrayed Bra as a victim when this special shows she wasn't.
Or maybe even 3), the author wanted to make Bra look sympathetic while planning to reveal in the literal next special she wasn't, which is ALSO bad writing. (Good ol' SuBvErT eXpEcTaTiOnS, amiright?)
Or maybe 4) it was done to build hype for this special, which similarly doesn't impress me.
In my opinion, it shows a decent form of characterization. Bra is so caught up in herself and being the strongest, that all she heard from Vegito was "I'm gonna kill you." I can definitely see what you mean by it feeling inconsistent, as the timing of the flash was poor for us to be first learning of this event. If this special came out before the previous tournament chapter, and we knew what the full story was, I feel like the fact Bra only payed attention to her father's death threat would have come off a little better story-telling-wise.
Invader_Jim אמר/ה :
I'm honestly impressed that Vegetto knows what a supernova is.
But why? Even if Goku is a bit of a dolt; Vegeta lived in space for years. Vegeta should almost definitely know what a supernova is, and therefore Vegito should know as well.
I wonder if we'll get an extended version of the Vegito talking down on Bra here. Maybe it will be shown that Bra is remembering it slightly differently the it actually happened. A straight up death threat to his child seems off for Vegito, even if he is channeling his inner Vegeta.
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SighterGear אמר/ה :
Or maybe it was just Bra's blast going all the way to the sun.
I'm almost certain that's what it is, but it being Vegito is a cool possibility I didn't think of.
Jotaro Kujo אמר/ה :
how in the actual hell did she survive that explosion and smacking into the planet that hard
i mean, a few punches and her bones were basically turned to powder, so how in the heck did she survive that powerful of a boom from bra?
i mean, a few punches and her bones were basically turned to powder, so how in the heck did she survive that powerful of a boom from bra?
I guess it just shows how hard Bra's punches are.
happywarrior99 אמר/ה :
No, they don't. 12 years old ssj1 U16 Bra is stronger than ssj3 Goku.
I know, I was just being silly since both times Jackyls were fought, Super Saiyan 2 was required. Hence the type neutral to SSJ3 joke.
Vechi אמר/ה :
I kinda feel sorry for them I, bet Yamcha I mean Goten could've to beat them with training in U18.
Ooo, you didn't have to through Goten under the bus like that. I can't say you're wrong though.
Jackyls are apparently effective when dealing with Super Saiyans, but have a weakness to Super Saiyan 2s. I wonder if they are type neutral with Super Saiyan 3s.
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SupremeFusionGogito אמר/ה :
This is an argument about literal garbage. Why bother?
I don't know. Some people seem to be having fun in this comment section. Why question it? I might join in on the conversation as well.
Goten's gonna get a good talking to about Mahogany.
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Vechi אמר/ה :
If Vegito did this, he would have blown up two planets next to him. Broly in universe 3 would've destroyed all the planets by running into them. For a child, I am kinda disappointed in her she is Vegito's spawn couldn't even do right.
Someone gets it! Cell was Solar System destruction level when fighting Gohan, so Bra only destroying a planet really is a puny output considering how strong she should be. Guess that's why she needed the Majin boost later.
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Pffft. Imagine only creating an explosion big enough to destroy a single planet. There wasn't even enough power to destroy the planet right next to her. If your gonna go big, you might as well go as big as you can get. How disappointing Bra.
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Vechi אמר/ה :
If, Beerus exists why, doesn't he comes to fight Vegito for calling himself a God?
Beerus doesn't "exist" in this universe per se. He only makes a cameo appearance inside the tournament within the stands at one point. DBM was started before Battle of Gods was a thing if I am correct, so all of these stories are written with Beerus not being a part of the equation. 1 תגובה/תגובות
Signus אמר/ה :
Don't you mean Gogeta against Broly and not Vegetto/Vegito?
I think he's referring to the fight between Ssj3 Vegito and Broly earlier in the story. The fight is from page 183.
Bird Mountain אמר/ה :
Also, is Bra a quarter dead? Inquiring minds wonder.
Well, wouldn't she be only 33% dead since she is made of thee DNA of technically 3 people. Vegeta makes up 33%, Goku makes up 33% and Bulma makes up 33%. Genetic traits are passed down by punnet squares, so everything is normally dealt in quarters, but in terms of being dead (Or Vegito being half-dead), then it could be argued that the ratio should be 33%, since Vegeta's alive-ness is being factored as being from Vegeta. All I know is this thought process has left me 100% confused. :/ 1 תגובה/תגובות
Salagir אמר/ה :
Guys, I'm sorry to tell you, but we do that for fun, for free, on our free time...
We can do as many minicomics as we want.
(yes, it's the last one)
We can do as many minicomics as we want.
(yes, it's the last one)
I generally always enjoy these; they always give me a good laugh. Hearing that it takes up the time that you get to relax and have fun only makes me appreciate these even more. Keep up the good work man!
Dang, Piccolo got Cui-ed pretty bad there. I was NOT expecting that!
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Man, on Namek, they'll need to hit Kakarot with a CLOTHES BEAM!!
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عمار אמר/ה :
There's literally nothing left for me to say other than admitting that I was wrong & moving on. Was I supposed to be salty & quit reading DBM? Or was I supposed to live in denial & made a fool out of myself? Now THAT will be embarassing don't you think?
There's literally nothing left for me to say other than admitting that I was wrong & moving on. Was I supposed to be salty & quit reading DBM? Or was I supposed to live in denial & made a fool out of myself? Now THAT will be embarassing don't you think?
![[img]](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/585/237/2b9.png)
(referring to King 4)
JaegrM אמר/ה :
Where's Radditz?
On two-armed Goro's shoulder.
Grimael אמר/ה :
...please do take me there and nibbles slightly on his ear, as he runs his fingers through his hair.
...please do take me there and nibbles slightly on his ear, as he runs his fingers through his hair.
Oh my...
![[img]](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1f/31/df/1f31df5449a9adab243544dee3ede00a.png)
GodofWar אמר/ה :
Kakarots not going to talk, he’s going to let Slug beat his ass, He’s going to use his immortality to regenerate, and then he’s going to win
Also, considering how quickly he almost blabbed the second he saw a ball, he just might be naive enough to tell him. Or maybe he'll tell Slug to eat the small remainder of teeth he has left.
Salagir אמר/ה :
Ah ah very good question! :)
For proper word pronunciation I guess.
For proper word pronunciation I guess.
I now imagine a version of Dragon Ball where Kami and Piccolo both just can't enunciate their words, and the running joke is no one can understand them but each other.
WizRad אמר/ה :
I'm not proud of that joke, but I'm sticking with it...
You have no reason not to be proud of that. I will now also be calling it that because I respect the pun.
Xeno אמר/ה :
That las image is serious meme material with Vegeta's face. XD
When you stub your toe at 3:00 A.M. making an early breakfast:
Ooo, that's gotta hurt. The predictions were right though, Vegeta has had zero trouble against his enemy.
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Xeno אמר/ה :
PS: He just looked like Tenshinhan without the third eye. A disturbing discovery.
PS: He just looked like Tenshinhan without the third eye. A disturbing discovery.
I'm kinda sad I didn't get to see what it looked like it, sounds like it was pretty funny. 1 תגובה/תגובות
Xeno אמר/ה :
Hardin was saying: Just gonna point this out but If he breaks his Spine he might actually die before getting healed up. Probably best if his near-death experience is caused by something with a better chance to survive.
Nah. Saiyans don't work like that. How do you think his spine is?
Nah. Saiyans don't work like that. How do you think his spine is?
But to be fair, he WAS going to die since Dende didn't heal him. Dende healed all of his wounds, getting rid of any issues with his spine. Since they have nothing similar to Dende here, the chances of them getting a broken spine and surviving would be lowered. Not impossible, but it would be better for the Saiyans if they came close to death via "safer" means.
Anyone else notice that Goku got into a similar pose that he got into to fight right now is similar to his pose when he begins his first fight with Vegeta? I don't know if that was on purpose on not, but if so, I think it's a pretty cool Easter Egg!
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Arguvandal אמר/ה :
I Dislike the use of Lord Slug for U13. It seems too out of place for the saiyans to actually consider asking for aid from anyone, most especially a race they deem beneath them. If it really had to be a movie character, at least pick Turles, a fellow saiyan and space pirate with a similar goal to get stronger than Frieza. It would have made more sense to just race for a Namek instead of this detourning and the Lord Slug business.
If I'm right, didn't Turles say he resented Vegeta and the upper class warrior Saiyans in his movie? I might be wrong, but I don't think Turles would be willing to work with these guys for that reason.
Triz אמר/ה :
So am I the only one that can't read the second dialogue bubble on the 1st panel? The last two lines of it are outside of the bubble and indistinguishable with the dark background behind it. Could this be a browser issue? Im using Google chrome on android.
In any case, could someone yell me what it says? Lol
In any case, could someone yell me what it says? Lol
It says "To the SG Sector… Freiza’s army has always been pushed back. We’ll be at relative peace."
Ah, so their does seems to be a slow regeneration process going on, as his neck has become perfectly healed again!
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SSM12 אמר/ה :
..I'm sorry, this art style doesn't really work well with Dragon Ball.
I can see what you mean with some of the character designs, but I personally think Nappa actually kinda fits well with the style. 1 תגובה/תגובות
WizRad אמר/ה :
Classy_Skeleton was saying: Okay, completely irrelevant from this page, but I'm new and have just read all of the this throughout the last two days. So... I'm a little confused as to what's going on with Zen Buu? Does anyone know what he's waiting for? If I'm right, he said he wanted to see a good fight, so does that mean he's going to wait until the other Gohan is dead, or Bra is defeated? I'm sorry if this question seems dumb, I'm just kinda confused...
Zen Buu has an insane amount of power, both physical and ki based as well as magical power. He's nowhere near as sadistic and childish as his DBZ counterpart, as his name "Zen Buu" implies. He's achieved some level of inner peace by absorbing such a wide range of characters and personality types, however he still really enjoys seeing a good battle, going as far as to risk getting kicked out of the tournament just to make things more interesting. If I'm not mistaken, he's currently blocking the ability of the other exiled fighters to sense the fighters at the tournament in order to see for himself how events unfold. He really doesn't care if everyone dies, because they all live on inside of him, and between his own magic and the Dragon Balls, there's really no consequence that can't be undone in his mind. In a lot of ways, Zen Buu can be seen as a representative of the fandom, or at least the perspective of the fans.
Zen Buu has an insane amount of power, both physical and ki based as well as magical power. He's nowhere near as sadistic and childish as his DBZ counterpart, as his name "Zen Buu" implies. He's achieved some level of inner peace by absorbing such a wide range of characters and personality types, however he still really enjoys seeing a good battle, going as far as to risk getting kicked out of the tournament just to make things more interesting. If I'm not mistaken, he's currently blocking the ability of the other exiled fighters to sense the fighters at the tournament in order to see for himself how events unfold. He really doesn't care if everyone dies, because they all live on inside of him, and between his own magic and the Dragon Balls, there's really no consequence that can't be undone in his mind. In a lot of ways, Zen Buu can be seen as a representative of the fandom, or at least the perspective of the fans.
Ah, thanks for explaining! :)
King 4 אמר/ה :
its incredible to see how much traffic this page generated. Especially for it being only a special. Good work, dbm.
I think it has to do with the big twist, but yeah I totally agree on this comment section being filled!
I like the thought of Goku just stretching after a good nights sleep, then while stretching accidentally turns Super Saiyan because he fell out of it during sleep.
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Okay, completely irrelevant from this page, but I'm new and have just read all of the this throughout the last two days. So... I'm a little confused as to what's going on with Zen Buu? Does anyone know what he's waiting for? If I'm right, he said he wanted to see a good fight, so does that mean he's going to wait until the other Gohan is dead, or Bra is defeated? I'm sorry if this question seems dumb, I'm just kinda confused...
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They won't. Broly wins, presumably blows up the planet, and get sealed in ice.
It seems the blast has basically torn up everyone who took it. Goten and Uub are physically wounded, with cuts on their bodies just from protecting themselves. I feel like calling it tanking would kinda undermine the damage dealt here.