Honestly, I don’t really like the logic you gave to the technique, GotenKun, but I’ll give you credit for at least not ignoring it like Toriyama always did. That move was always an option, yet conveniently forgotten. Against Cell or Buu, Piccolo, Roshi or Krillin never even brought it up. So I’ll give you that — you found a way to include it and still make it ineffective.

Saso was saying:
Both Freeza and 17 got buffed hard on DBS, so theoretically in the mind of the official Toriyama Goku they could have won against him during the DBM tournament, the comment by Salagir on them becoming more powerful was sarcasm in reference to that.
I'll give Frieza the benefit of the doubt with him being a lazy prodigy, but yeah, 17 never made ANY f*cking sense. He gained literally "godly" power by chasing off guys with shotguns? Yeah. Sure. OKAY.

obserwator was saying: I wonder if he missed and ripped pants or not?


iron leaf was saying: There's actually a fanart of it, lol. Unfortunately I can't find it.

Pretty sure this is the one. XD

Wasn't Bra believe Janemba was weak? https://w...393.html#h_read
She really has became a clown as her father now.
Goku is better to learn from Gast and Uub instead of listening to her.

Why do you keep saying "U7 Marron (U7 Krillin's daughter)"

ap2007 was saying: Yeah that's the logic just go 10xs faster .... gast put vegetto down like a bitch and she still thinking power is everything ... annoying character

She is thinking of the promise she made for U19. She dropped out for that reason.

Whenever I see someone spewing a negative mindset over fan-comic or anything fictional for that matter it's like holy moly, is the concept of something existing just for the sake of fun just so uncanny to them?

siksteen was saying: Okay, but how is Kakaditz a better option than Vegetto in any way?Because U9 Elder Kai is not U16 Elder Kai. U9 Elder Kai does not enough about U16 Vegetto's personality to trust him, while Raditz's personality is mostly the same on most of the 20 universes that have participated on the DBM tournament.

mulled_piss was saying: Is there any explanation for why he's honoring the deal to kill XXI?Because Kakaditz not only knows that XXI defeated U16 Vegetto but he also knows that XXI is a multiversal threat. If XXI conquers the multiverse, it would result on XXI using magical hax to either enslave Kakaditz or kill Kakaditz, which is something that would prevent Kakaditz from having the total freedom that Kakaditz wants to have.

Such a stupid out of character thing for Goku to say.

I wonder how U9's story went. Krillin seems to know about Vegeta, so they must've faced Raditz, Nappa and Vegeta on Earth and somehow managed to win. Kakarotto must also have died somehow before he even met Krillin on Earth. Then he also clearly knows Sauza and Cooler, so that means the humans on this universe encountered and somehow managed to defeat Cooler's empire too.

He also knows about the cyborgs (17 and 18) and we know Yamcha is their universe version of 17, so Dr. Gero did try to pull something similar in their universe and they've also overcome that somehow. Not sure if Cell was ever a part of that universe though. Seems unlikely without saiyan cells to gather to create him in the first place. But if Cooler was on Earth, maybe a different version of Cell with DNA from Cooler and the humans could've been attempted by Gero?

And then he also recognizes Babidi. So again, somehow, the humans in U9 encountered and managed to stop Babidi. Which means they at least are strong enough to defeat Dabura and stop them from reviving Buu.

I really want to see all this in U9 specials at some point in the future. I hope we get to see that someday.

migoq was saying: wait if this is supposed to be Dende, then who is the current Saichoro?
It's Moori, who as Dende says, is currently excessively old.

How the hell did Kakarott ever learn to sense energy if he didn't train under Karin or Kami?

Jewbacca was saying:
Wouldn't bet on that. Gast has an important reason to win. He wants to restore his people by undoing his own fusion. So i doubt he is willing to give up for anything, or anyone. For now i wouldn't bet on either of them. Gast was able to disable Vegetto somehow so he certainly has a chance.

Yeah I think that's not gonna work out for him. Vegito tried to undo his fusion with the Dragon Balls and it didn't work, and I would imagine Buu would have un
[quote from="ChrisOfChaos" id=191165]Jewbacca was saying:
Wouldn't bet on that. Gast has an important reason to win. He wants to restore his people by undoing his own fusion. So i doubt he is willing to give up for anything, or anyone. For now i wouldn't bet on either of them. Gast was abl
[quote from="ChrisOfChaos" id=191165]Jewbacca was saying:
Wouldn't bet on that. Gast has an important reason to win. He wants to restore his people by undoing his own fusion. So i doubt he is willing to give up for anything, or anyone. For now i wouldn't bet on either of them. Gast was able to disable Vegetto somehow so he certainly has a chance.

Yeah I think that's not gonna work out for him. Vegito tried to undo his fusion with the Dragon Balls and it didn't work, and I would imagine Buu would have unfused Gast if he could have, instead of setting up multiple spells to trap him. If it were me I would ask a few Nameks from the other universes to help him repopulate.

That begs the question, do Earth bacteria affect Saiyans the same way it affects humans? For superhumans like Kuririn and Tien, are they more resistant to disease than normal people?

Not everything fell on the ground, Phipsil. Some of those are on your hair, face, body, etc. You may want to eat those too, Bra.

No Vegeta, I don't want to see 2 hairy monkey balls clashing with each other, I'm all up for the girls doing it tho.

Also, lol at "none of the participants remaining broke the rules willingly". Bra's actions are hers. Just like Majin Vegeta was still Vegeta with a power and battle lust, Majin Bra was still Bra. And she did far worse than Buu, who was just playing around. The hypocrisy man.

Ammar was saying: "Do tell all your little friends…Send your army… Mine will be waiting!!"

King Piccolo...you killed him! How is he supposed to tell them now?!!

Radditz literally just finished saying their conversation was being broadcasted via the scouters.

Ammar was saying:
Also...

Ahem!

Plooooothoooole!!!

How is it a plothole? There is no date listed for when that event took place. This very easily could have happened after Vegeta took the throne

Vash was saying: Zol was saying:

"King Piccolo in the manga did not even needlessly kill any random people."


He doesn't seem out of character

Vash was saying: DeathToKakarot was saying:

Uhhh did you not read the part in the manga where he was blowing up a city a day at random? He RELISHES in the destruction he causes, and he was literally depicted as going on rampages and terrorizing humanity before he was sealed by Mutation in the manga iirc.

I do not recall that part was in the manga. Must be anime filler.
He was sealed over a hundred years ago and in the anime his minions were fighting against SWATs and later tanks lol. Kind like the filler where imperfect Cell fought against tanks.


It's in the manga and it's not filler


He doesn't seem out of character


Still, I have my criticisms of this page


Piccolo literally destroyed the time room together with mr popo, a room that could make him much stronger in a short time, it made him look very stupid.

My point stands. In your pictures, he killed King’s guards.
Color manga? New edition based on the anime version? I read black and white old version of manga in the early 90s.
Unless I forgot, I really do not recall him saying he would destroy entire cities just for fun.



"My point stands. In your pictures, he killed King’s guards."

What do you consider random person? Let's review your old comment to find out:

"He only killed those who stood in his way of world domination "


Let's make a comparison:



Here we have a random king guard who cannot harm piccolo let alone his children, it is completely weak, piccolo could kill at any time, this guard is not a random person



Who is the random person? Mr Popo, the assistant of the earth god, the one who could swallow a kamehameha, who could fight by feeling ki and had more skills than him, who seemed to surpass Goku who had the same power as him before (I know that Goku doesn't exist, but it doesn't change the fact that mr popo surpasses him ), this guy is the random person, who poses less of a threat than the king's guard, apart from the fact that he could actually learn to use the mafuba, because he has power and knowledge to do so, he could indeed be a threat to Piccolo



Using his own logic (he only kills whoever poses a threat to him) it makes much more sense for him to kill mr popo than the random guard



Now make no mistake, I'm not saying that he doesn't kill people who are a threat to him, this is literally one of his first actions when he arrives on land, but Piccolo is not against doing that, in fact he is quite open and happy to do that, it would be weird if he wasn't like that, after all he's trying to be the ultimate evil



"Color manga? New edition based on the anime version? I read black and white old version of manga in the early 90s."






"Unless I forgot, I really do not recall him saying he would destroy entire cities just for fun."


Wow that's funny, you ignored the pages I posted just because it's in color and said "it's an anime thing" I never thought you would be so adamant on your point.



Since you have the manga with you (which I'm assuming is black and white) I'm assuming you have the same pages I have, only black and white, so could you please post the exact same pages I sent, I can tell the chapters and pages of each image



Chapter 150 page 4 :



Chapter 150 page 6 :



Chapter 150 page 7 :



Chapter 153 page 2 :



Chapter 153 page 3 :




Extra : Nirvano posted a page and I can tell you where it came from


Chapter 150 page 9 :



"First of all, your post is offensive and childish. I hope you change your way before getting banned. There is no reason to insult people over a simple discussion of manga.

Second of all, Popo follows the order of Kami. He still called Kamiccolo as “Kami” in the Andriod Saga as he knows the two beings were actually one, to begin with. King Piccolo could have had a strong minion if he simply order Popo to continue his service to him as he is Kami more or less. Popo poses no threat to Kami, and certainly is no match for the fused Kamiccolo. No reason to kill him while he can order Popo around instead. If Popo refuses to follow him, then a killing blow would be more “reasonable” in this situation."




So the argument went from "Piccolo doesn't kill random people" to "Mr Popo follows kami's orders"



Then you say Mr popo called Piccolo "Kami" after he merged with kami sama however:



Chapter 360 page 11 : https://s...67fe68b4_11.jpg


"Farewell God, please don't die"


He does the exact opposite, he recognizes that Kami Sama is gone and then asks Piccolo not to die.


So mr popo would never recognize Piccolo as kami sama, the previous page also makes that clear:







Piccolo daimaoh knows this, he has kami sama's memories now and that's why he didn't even try to waste time trying to reason with mr popo and killed him right off the bat


But I think there is indeed a scene that Mr popo calls Piccolo Kami sama, but I think it is ironically exclusive to the anime



In the anime Piccolo talks to mr popo with the voice of kami sama and then kami sama says goodbye to mr popo so I think mr popo calls Piccolo "Kami sama" unfortunately mr popo doesn't do that in the manga so it doesn't matter



"Third, King’s guards were shooting at King Piccolo. Of course, they were not just random people."



https://c...f27e6a027/3.jpg


You're right, piccolo would be screwed if he took a few more shots from this random soldier of the king, he seeing the possible threat that could end his reign and possibly kill him, he deftly got rid of the guard before he could kill him. lo, a very smart move on Piccolo's part



"Fourth, I said so there is a chance I might have forgotten some details since I did not even own those mangas back in the early 90s and only read them once or twice on some chapters. Overall I just remember King Piccolo basically had specific targets for his kill list. His minions did not even kill bystanders unless they interfered.
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And yet piccolo was willing to kill that random guard and also to destroy random cities

If they actually had functioning brains, they would have realized that these images are from an external perspective, meaning someone was watching

I am surprised Babidi DIDN'T teleport the two Gohans away, remember when U16 Gohan powered up after Bojack killed U16 Pan? How did Babidi not sense that he was really strong compared to most people? The only one he controlled that was powerful enough to beat Gohan was U16 Bra.

Mystic / Ultimate Gohan in DBZ is a whole tier stronger than SSJ3 (either Goku and Gotenks). I think you must confuse details when expecting something else. After Elder Kaioshin's ritual was completed, Gohan achieved the power of his full potential like a videogame cheat-code. DBM developed that thought further. Bothe Gohans in DBM are identical in power despite U16 occasionally joining Vegetto and Son Bra with their training or missions, while U18 does nothing in this regard. Sorry to be the one to break it to all the people wishing Mystic in DBM would have been the same as in GT or DBS, but it isn't. Unless some major plottwist with XXI, the U1 Kaioshins or Zen Buu come along, DBM Gohan has always/permantent the power he possessed in the fight against Super Buu, regardless of whether he tries to improve or slacks off.
(In the DBM continuity, Mystic Gohan has the same power in the Buu Arc, EoZ, the U16/U18 specials, and the DBM tournament)

Earlier it was established that absorption is a defense mechanism, something that Buu uses when he's scared. This seems to be precisely that case, so it might be that absorption wasn't actually a part of Gohan's plan. But whatever Buu is doing, it's still a distraction and Gohan might use it to secure the final blast, possibly a Kienzan.

Bra should be able to blast Buu away because she's much stronger. But then again, Gohan should have been able to do the same in DBZ, but no. He got absorbed by Buu who was much weaker than him. How is that even possible? I thought powering up would be the first impulse when Buu attempts to absorb you.

Nice. See? This is what she should have done a long while ago. It was just weird to see everyone annoy her when she can literally move her fingers and make them explode from a mile away.

On both the manga and anime, Universe 18 Vegeta talked about the Universe 18 version of the Original Legendary Super Saiyan (the one from 1000 years ago) being a golden giant ape that exploded, because it was unable to control it is own power.

The Universe 2 and Universe 5 versions of the Original Legendary Super Saiyan (the one from 1000 years ago) can fully control their own power, thus they neither exploded nor destroyed the original saiyan homeworld.

Hey where the hell is goten?

(omg I'm so very sorry for my last post that was censored for stating the obvious).

So here's a total harmless message:

> there are several teleporters in the fight
> there are (at least) 2 couples of fighters who are at the very same power level
> these fighters know a particular dance

Do the math.

coool although the Oozaru should be bigger :D