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Bubbles 22 Oktober
Daammmn! That's COLD!

So it's confirmed there's only 6 people left from U18.

iron leaf sagte:
Oh, that poor girl. How melancholy and sad. The brother tries to protect his sister. Someone almost guessed it right on the previous page.

PMC sagte:
Did the spikes come before or after the freeze? It would make sense to freeze everyone first, then impale them, just like XXI vs Goku in the tournament.

If the spikes came after, how did Trunks have time to (attempt to) protect her? If he could react, then so could the others. I don't recall anyone else mentioning seeing the spikes before getting frozen - Goku even asked Piccolo how long they were out for.

While the thought of Trunks dying to protect his little sister is sad and adorable, I think the spikes simply pushed them into that position.

PokeChess sagte:
The spikes hit them while time was stopped, so when it returned to normal, it was already too late. Trunks chose to face death hugging his sister.

Yeah. It's possible when Piccolo's counter technique range reached him, he lived for a few seconds and chose to hug his sister before dying. 1 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2572
Bubbles 20 Oktober
Vegeta being protective towards his little girl. Good for him.

Does he care that Trunks died too? Lol.

ChrisOfChaos sagte:
Bubbles was saying:
Does he care that Trunks died too? Lol.

Well he knows Trunks has been in worse situations and can handle himself, Bra isn't a fighter.

True that. Trunks's a 28 years old adult while Bra is only 16. Also that's the first time she dies.

I think that's the right way to go. Vegeta losing both his kids at once adds depth to his character development.
And that means Gotenks is off the table. That's probably for the best, I was never a fan of fusions being used to solve threats, narratively speaking (not to mention Gotenks is annoying). 4 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2571
Bubbles 15 Oktober
CompactCoven sagte:
Oh dang, did XXI collapse the entire arena on top of them? I guess this is the "darkness" that fell after the wish in that case

I think there's much more to it. To me it seems like U0 merged with other universes.

I really like this page, I'm more intrigued than ever. I'm also wondering if these spikes are just random material collapsing or a new parallel dimension or something else. It has a really hellish vibe to it.

Females sagte:
The spikes remind me of when Goku and Vegeta were fighting Janemba in Hell. I wonder if thats where they are?

I knew I'd seen it somewhere!
Since XXI has been using Janemba as a puppet, could it be that he has some sort of connection to the afterlife or even to a phenomenon linked to the end of life itself?
DB Multiverse page 2568
Bubbles 13 Oktober
Could Gast use this counter as well? Or does it require a small demonic twist to it? 1 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2567
Bubbles 12 Oktober
Remember Piccolo's words in Baddack's visions "only my will keeps you alive". Does he happen to have a counter to whatever happened? 1 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2566
Bubbles 6 Oktober
"You may leave"
How, with magic slippers? Or is this a case of "the doors will remain shut until you succeed" and always was?

Northeal sagte:
I'm curious if this will be another Vegetto round 2 situation. If Uub will return in the midst of whatever Hellscape XXI just caused, and we then are left wondering what happened before they explain it again. Or if we get the events of the main universe beforehand, and then we'll not know when Uub's return will happen and he can have somewhat of a hero moment.

I'm also really curious about this. Timewise this should be after XXI's wish. Are people even still in Universe 0? I'm guessing yes, because of Baddack's visions. I can't wait to see what Salagir meant by "2nd part of the story will be adventures with fights you didn't see".
DB Multiverse page 2563
Bubbles 6 Oktober
ZenBuu sagte:
King Kindred was saying: The one thing I never understood about U9 Krillin is why he's so old. They never explain it while everyone else looks their normal age. I know Yamcha's a Cyborg but human Trunks still looks like a teenager/young adult.
Krillin should be at least 62 years old at the tournament. That's not what I would consider young for a human. Also, he's wearing the beard in honor of Master Roshi, which can also make a person look way older than their actual age.

Closer to 56.
At this age, depending on your genes and lifestyle, you could look anywhere between 40 and 70. So I think it's fairly plausible for Kulilin to look older than Yamcha and Tenshinhan (which he also did in DBGT). Not to mention Yamcha is a cyborg, and Tenshinhan's origins remain unclear to this day. 1 Antworten
DBMultiverse Colors page 424
Bubbles 22 September
Echizen.ryoma sagte:
How to download this chapter? I collect all pages of DBM comics but can't download this chapter pages properly


ZFQFMIB sagte:
Echizen.ryoma was saying: How to download this chapter? I collect all pages of DBM comics but can't download this chapter pages properly

You can save the video files, though they're textless. You can also screenshot the pages and save those. As for an animated video with text, maybe someone else has an idea.

You can find the pictures with the texts on the DBM forum, thanks to Ammar. A mod named Sosa also made a few ones.

Edit: I'm glad the old lay-out is back. Way better this way.
DB Multiverse page 2554
Bubbles 15 September
It's like the Sokidan and the Candy Beam combined in one attack! Neat! 1 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2551
Bubbles 13 September
If he's been there for 32 hours, this means XXI's wish probably already happened...

Uub went to see Buu on Day 3 during dinner, after quite a long day (3rd round + lunch + Majin attack + first half of 4th round). While XXI's wish happened on Day 4 during lunch, presumably quite early (Goku and Vegeta's "first round" only lasted like one second, I'K'L's rampage literally zero second and XXI's final win was instant).

So whatever happened... Probably already happened. This could even be Day 5. Uub is in for a surprise once he completes his training and breaks out of there.

Also, Uub is gonna be a freakin beast when this ends! His transcended Kaioken already made him way stronger than SSJ3, possibly Mystical-tiers. I think he might be able to rival Normal Super Saiyan, if not stronger.
DB Multiverse page 2549
Bubbles 8 September
Saso sagte:
PGV 2 was saying: Question: Is it possible to save the pages in this chapter?

Unfortunately, due to the font used, this isn't possible...
I can edit/export it for you.
Edit:

I also took a second to add white borders to the copyright ^^, its impossible to read it rn.
Edit2:

I just changed the copyright from black with white borders to just white, and moved Juna dialog a little bit up so her face is more visible.

Thanks!

Would you mind doing page 2545 as well? Usually you can find these images on the dbm freeforum, but whoever usually converse them skipped the last few ones. 1 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2546
Bubbles 5 September
DrewSaga sagte:
Shouldn't Vegeta be SSJ2 on the first panel given that it's based on that U18 Special?

I think it should.
But even in chapter 78, Vegeta's lightnings are on and off in the last few pages. So it hard to say for sure if he was SSJ2 during the attack.

The panel is already amazing, adding the SSJ2 lightnings would be a whole nother level.

Edit: Vegeta definitely has lightnings on 1807 and 1808, but not right before nor after. 1 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2544
Bubbles 31 August
Was not expecting the last chapter to end this quickly. Well, it's not over yet and I'm happy we're finding out more about Uub's past.

In the manga it was said that Uub was the elder of 5 kids. So I'm assuming these kids are his cousins/uncles/aunts maybe?

Ouroboros sagte:
With the name Juna what are the change all villagers are named after months?

On the last page of the last Uub special, "Majin Anju" said Uub could call "her" whatever he wanted. So he probably went with Juna because it's similar to Anju but different. 3 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2542
Bubbles 10 August
I've watched the stream and someone mentioned another DB fan-made manga based on U7 Cell called Cell Kai or something. I've searched the internet and found nothing. Anyone knows about this??
News v2, id 24
Bubbles 31 Juli
hedhi sagte:
Ammar was saying: This page remind me how dumb was Dr. Gero for not helping Android 19 against SSJ Vegeta. There was a chance they could kill him if they jumped him.


This is dragon ball. Wtf u mean jump him?

King Kindred was saying: Oh no! The Chicken Man!

And I get what you're saying Bunga, but a 16 year old Videl still wouldn't look that childish or even have a childish hairstyle in this period of war.

Videl is 14 here not 16. But beyond that, you're right. She wouldnt look as childish.

She looks 12 here.

King Kindred was saying: Mustard was saying: King Kindred was saying: Oh no! The Chicken Man!

And I get what you're saying Bunga, but a 16 year old Videl still wouldn't look that childish or even have a childish hairstyle in this period of war.
16? She shouldn't be older than Gohan. She'd be around 13-14.

She was 18 in the Buu Saga. It's 7 years post Cell and she and Gohan were both 11 once he exited the time chamber. She's chronologically older than Gohan. He just got aged up a year in canon.

@happywarrior99

I get what you're trying to say, but that logic would make sense if they weren't literally at war. Like you said, there's no girls around her age or younger. She would've matured more in this timeline. Think of the future of Terminator. That's the life they live.


No she was NOT 18 in the Buu Saga. She's 16.

That is a literal fact. She's the same age as Gohan, Gohan is 16 in Buu Saga.

It states in the Manga and the math can be done VERY easily.

Gohan was 9 when he went into the time chamber. That makes him physically 10.

There is 0 evidence that says Videl was a year older than him. Please quit spreading misinformation.


Bubbles was saying: iron leaf was saying: Poor Gohan.
I have no problem with Videl's hair. I've seen twin tails more and more often in fan art featuring Videl. Maybe that motivated Bunga.

Ammar was saying: Yeah, I don't think I ever saw DBZ villains working together to take a stronger foe. #17 & #18 are the only exception of teamwork in the manga. It's only the good guys doing the teamwork, and it still not as effective as what we see in this page.I was about to write a long text explaining why the Bojack crew is a good example of good teamwork among villains, until I read your full comment saying that you meant the manga.


Mustard was saying: 16? She shouldn't be older than Gohan. She'd be around 13-14. The U7 Cell Arc begins on page 2416. This story takes place in Age 772, two years before the Buu Arc in DBZ, when Videl and Gohan were 18 years old. In this arc in U7, Videl is 16 years old.
In the original manga it clearly says at the beginning of the Buu saga that Gohan is 16, which means Videl is also most likely 16. So they're both 14 here.
People who say Gohan was 11 during the Cell Saga usually use one of the English dubs as source, but the dubs aren't reliable at all. And even if it was in the original Japanese version, I'd still value Toriyama's words in the manga over Toei's in the anime.
Gohan was physically 10 during the Cell Saga because of a year in the Room of Spirit and Time, but his birthday was 9 years before that.


You dont even need their words. Anyone can do the math. Here I'll leave the math below.


4 years old at the start.
5 years when Saiyans come.
6 years old, when Mecha Frieza arrives.
9 years old when the Androids arrive.
10 because of the RoSaT

It states both im the anime and Manga, that Frieza returns to Earth, 1 year after he lost to Goku on Namek.

The 34 days + 10 days before they reached Namek is ultimately moot. Its not enough time to change his age a whole year.

Why argue with me? Our conclusions are the same and I agree with your maths. lol

Also the Saiyans showed up one month earlier than expected, so 34 + 10 days after that simply means it's been one full year since Raditz.
DB Multiverse page 2524
Bubbles 30 Juli
iron leaf sagte:
Poor Gohan.
I have no problem with Videl's hair. I've seen twin tails more and more often in fan art featuring Videl. Maybe that motivated Bunga.

Ammar was saying: Yeah, I don't think I ever saw DBZ villains working together to take a stronger foe. #17 & #18 are the only exception of teamwork in the manga. It's only the good guys doing the teamwork, and it still not as effective as what we see in this page.I was about to write a long text explaining why the Bojack crew is a good example of good teamwork among villains, until I read your full comment saying that you meant the manga.


Mustard was saying: 16? She shouldn't be older than Gohan. She'd be around 13-14. The U7 Cell Arc begins on page 2416. This story takes place in Age 772, two years before the Buu Arc in DBZ, when Videl and Gohan were 18 years old. In this arc in U7, Videl is 16 years old.

In the original manga it clearly says at the beginning of the Buu saga that Gohan is 16, which means Videl is also most likely 16. So they're both 14 here.
People who say Gohan was 11 during the Cell Saga usually use one of the English dubs as source, but the dubs aren't reliable at all. And even if it was in the original Japanese version, I'd still value Toriyama's words in the manga over Toei's in the anime.
Gohan was physically 10 during the Cell Saga because of a year in the Room of Spirit and Time, but his birthday was 9 years before that. 1 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2524
Bubbles 25 Juli
PocasNuckie sagte:
Didn't this Comic start with a fight between Vegitto and Broly and then moved back in time to see how we got to that fight? Am I missing something here? Is that fight still coming? Feeling kinda lost right now friends ...

This happened on the 1st round. That was YEARS ago. I'd recommend you re-read the whole thing from the beginning.

Y'all should check out Mondo Cool on YouTube, he makes videos in which he reads DBM (and other fan-mades) with voices and sound effects, it's pretty neat.

Super Gojita 3 sagte:
I'm looking forward to this special.

mice!

So, will gast clobber cell, only for him to regen and get a zenkai?

maybe he'll get gohan like rage boosts.

this cell has a bit of mystery to him.

maybe his perfect form has water bear dna and can survive in space.

you know those weird bugs or whatever.

anyway, please correct me on the terminology as to what they are. I'm cool with being proven wrong on that.

On page 32 it was said that Cell was threatening the universe, so maybe we get 2 more parts. One in which Gast nearly defeats Cell on Earth and leaves him for dead, or Cell escapes and get a zenkai boost. Then one in space in which Cell is back, more powerful and roaming freely across the universe so threatening on a much bigger scale.
I sure wouldn't mind Cell getting a bigger role than a one-chapter appearance.
DB Multiverse page 2521
Bubbles 4 Juli
After all these years, the tournament ends in the most anti-climatic way possible... I love it! 2 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2512
Bubbles 8 Juni
Raditz cannot attack innocent people, but fortunately remotes are not people nor do they have a moral compass. So Raditz can probably destroy it and maybe gain a little time.
DB Multiverse page 2501
Bubbles 24 Mai
I like that there's at least one universe in which Chaozu is actually useful.

I hope we get Yajirobe at some point... 1 Antworten
Saigo no Son page 66
Bubbles 23 Mai
Seems really out of character for South Kaioshin. And how does he know they're plotting against Universe 5? He's probably somewhat possessed. Remember what XXI said on page 2450. 2 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2495
Bubbles 30 April
That's the same Varga who got mind-controlled by Babidi, right?

So XXI
1. Probably has some mind-control power too
2. Is aware of Elder Kaioshin's moves
3. Is making move to prevent getting sent back

Or... this is just a red herring and this Varga is legitimately trying to be nice to make up for what he did. 1 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2485
Bubbles 26 April
kcheeb sagte:
New grand kaioshin is noryh kaioshiin? Whay happen to the original grand kaioshin

He got demoted for being irresponsible.
DB Multiverse page 2483
Bubbles 26 April
TheN sagte:
Pretty sure a Nappa without an arm is still a threat. I don't know why everyone is saying he's useless now (He's not even wet).
Unless Krilin and Chaotsu start spamming the same technique.

I'm sure he can fire a few blasts before bleeding to death...
Saigo no Son page 53
Bubbles 24 April
https://w...amp;chapter=105

It says here the chapter's title is Recruitment.

So who'll be "recruiting"? XXI? South or Old Kaioshin? All of them? 1 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2482
Bubbles 18 April
iron leaf sagte:
Oh, and who still remembers the name of the U10 Saiyan without looking it up? ;)

Mahissu, Vegeta and Baddack. 1 Antworten
Minicomic page 133
Bubbles 13 April
Cell seems obedient... for now.

I hope we get more than just a fight right here right now. It was said on Page 32 that Cell was "threatening the universe" so maybe he gets overwhelmed by Gast (with the help of Gohan) so he escapes and goes on a rampage throughout the galaxy, leading to a future encounter. He was easily able to hide his ki and fly under the radar in the main universe... Or maybe I'm just overthinking. 1 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2480
Bubbles 10 April
The "Read comic" part of the website says there's another page being released in 3 days from now. Is there more or is the page just not updated?

@about criticism
People in the comments have always acted like DBM is an American restaurant where the customer is king and always right. If you tried that sh!t in let's say, France or Norway or any other country really, they'd tell you to leave and that'd be the end of it. Entitlement isn't good, developing better social skills is. 1 Antworten
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 82
Bubbles 8 April
LOL! Seems accurate to me.

And being salty about it only proves the point.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 81
Bubbles 30 März
Jblaze94 sagte:
Super saiyan Gohan or Trunks?

It wouldn't make sense for him to be Trunks.
1. It's very unlikely that he exists at all in this timeline.
2. If he did, he would be much younger than that.
3. "Captain Chicken" had dark eyes prior to his transformation (like most characters), while Trunks has light "caucasian" eyes in his base form.

Ultimateshenron sagte:
Has this Gohan obtained ssj2 already?

Probably not, as there's no lightning. The fact that he got Super Saiyan at all is quite surprising, SS2 would be quite a stretch I think. Yet, he does seem a little overpowered. My guess is that he was modified, somehow. Maybe by Gero himself.
DB Multiverse page 2474
Bubbles 30 März
"Mais pourquoi c'est pas canon?"

I remember commenting on one of Chef Otaku's video one or 2 years ago, and he didn't seem to know much about DBM. Do you know if this changed?
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 78
Bubbles 28 März
Wait, what?

Does that mean he's Gohan? And somehow, this was the lie?
DB Multiverse page 2473
Bubbles 14 März
Regular humans should be weaker than ants when compared to the Androids. Maybe Gast released their full potentials to balance the odds a little?? 1 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2467
Bubbles 8 März
Andy sagte:
FishNChips was saying: Time to train with Mr Popo. Think Roshi will join the Z Fighters?

Wonder if a new Kami will be chosen now...

Wasn't Roshi stronger than Yamcha in the end of dragon ball? If at all, he should have been on the same level. So him joining the Z Fighters could make sence.

No. Roshi said himself during the 23rd Tournament that all of them surpassed him, that would include Yamcha.
Saigo no Son page 33
Bubbles 2 März
If XXI could simply raise his power or abilities with a wish, I think he would have done it a long time ago... Which makes me think he needs something or someone at the tournament for his wish to be granted. Like Vegetto maybe?

Or maybe he asked for Goku to get a virus or diarrhea or something like that. 2 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2462
Bubbles 1 März
This dragon is freakin awesome! Definitely a chad.

ZenBuu sagte:
So XXI knows how to speak Namekian, huh?

I don't think this is Namekian, because the symbols are not the same. Unless it's a different dialect.
DB Multiverse page 2461
Bubbles 23 Februar
Best banner? I assume it's the only one... Or Vargas have a bigger ego than I thought.

Also I hate to be that guy but "Rocks" shouldn't have an "s" at the end, unless we're talking about literal rocks or a person named Vargas.
DB Multiverse page 2459
Bubbles 21 Februar
How did Izy exactly save the day? It was that machine from U1 that shows up every 10 minutes that sent Buu back. Unless she engineered the gadget herself, it's not exactly her win.

Ammar sagte:
Females was saying: I like these pages, but not enough for 2 weeks worth. Also I see they made changes to page 2455 and Gave Cell an award for number of Kills along side Gast lol
As Females mentioned, Cell was added on page 2455. :)

Neat! Though Cell doesn't seem pleased with his trophy. What's his problem, is this not good enough for the so-called perfect being? Or is he just salty because of his "underperformance"?

Andy sagte:
Good question, where is Yamcha?

Und the Andoids don't deserve anything but shame for how they acted against I'K'L. Yamcha is the only hero there.

#16 also is a hero even though his contribution is more limited than Yamcha's. Which makes me think... the spectators who were accidently killed by #16 are still dead at the moment?? 2 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2458
Bubbles 19 Februar
beeruz sagte:
Hopefully this is the last "award" as I can't think of any other thing they could give awards to and I just wanna get back to the main story because while these inclusions are nice it kinda feels like stalling for the main story.

There's also Yamcha for defeating I'K'L.
There could also be awards for most raw power (Vegetto vs. Broly), for defeating an enemy who had more raw power (Goku vs. Uub), the most even fighting (Goku vs. Vegeta), most damage dealt, most ingenuity, subverting expectations, etc.
DB Multiverse page 2457
Bubbles 9 Februar 2025
kingworld sagte:
@Salagir
@Mods
I think the new feature that allows to swap pages from mobile is actually more annoying than helpful, because it makes it very difficult to move around a zoomed page.

I totally agree. It's pretty annoying.
DB Multiverse page 2453
Bubbles 23 Januar 2025
E-A Sports sagte:
How did he know there were other saiyans coming? Raditz only told Piccolo that in the original when he was dying.

Not exactly. When they were fighting, he told Piccolo that the other 2 Saiyans were stronger than him. But when he showed up to Kame House, he did mention they were gonna attack Earth soon.
Saigo no Son page 14
Bubbles 19 Januar 2025
XXI is officially a cheater.

Is this really the end for Gast? 2 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2444
Bubbles 8 Januar 2025
Punslinger sagte:
From a literary standpoint we need XXI to win this fight so that we can have a main hero versus main villain finale. Goku versus Gast would be less interesting than a mystery villain with interesting powers taking on our main protagonist in a battle for the multiverse.

So as I see it we have two options for how this plays out:

XXI wins and we get the obvious final fight of the tournament.

— OR-

Gast wins and something interrupts the final match, forcing the two to team up to overcome without a definitive outcome to their 1v1.

The second option happens plenty in Z/Super.

What if... Hear me out... Goku ends up fighting against BOTH Gast and XXI? Like, XXI finds a way to control Gast the same way he used Janemba. This way, Goku gets to fight against a strong "friendly" opponent but also the main villain?
DB Multiverse page 2438
Bubbles 3 Januar 2025
Are they giving awards between the semi-finales and the finale? Because if it's after, this feels rushed as hell. 2 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2437
Bubbles 2 Januar 2025
ZenBuu sagte:
Bubbles was saying: iron leaf was saying: Kururun was saying: ...Videl is not 10 years old.
Correct, she is actually 14.

While she does look a little small, she was fairly short too during Buu saga.
That is also incorrect lol

Videl should be 16 here (born in age 756), even though I also think she looks a bit younger here than that. She was 18 at the start of the Buu Saga (age 774) and this story is placed 2 years before that (age 772).

So Videl was 18 and Gohan 16 but they were in the same class? Weird. 1 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2436
Bubbles 2 Januar 2025
iron leaf sagte:
Kururun was saying: ...Videl is not 10 years old.

Correct, she is actually 14.

While she does look a little small, she was fairly short too during Buu saga. 1 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2436
Bubbles 1 Januar 2025
Instead of going to the battlefield, Videl will simply control the defeated android from a distance with this helmet, allowing her to fight in a way without risking her life? 3 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2436
Bubbles 28 Dezember 2024
Ok, a little anti-climatic.

Well, too bad. I really enjoyed this comic overall. It perfectly captured the DB spirit while expanding on new characters. Most DB fan-made mangas (and Super) try too much to stick with the characters and time-spans we're already familiar with. DBZ, GT, etc. were always about the next generation.
Not a very deep nor elaborate take, but I don't feel like writing a long paragraph right now. Thanks for your work, Goten-kun, can't wait to read your next story. I'm just a little sad that with 321Y and Namekusei-jin finally over, I won't have any new pages to look forward on even week days.

papupata sagte:
But but... who won? D:

All we have left is speculation. My money is on Tambo.
321Y page 372
Bubbles 27 Dezember 2024
Horns? Is this a typo, or just Bulma misspeaking?

Ok, I literally just re-read the page. Feel free to delete this post. 2 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2434
Bubbles 26 Dezember 2024
瘦布欧 sagte:
Merry Xmas.

Just a little feedback regarding the swipe feature. It is sensitive, as we zoom in and panning left and right, the "swipe" feature would interpret it as swiping and navigate back or forth.

Yeah, I noticed that not long ago.

Every time I try to zoom in on a page, it goes back to the previous page. It's a little annoying to be honest.

Edit: I was wrong about Cell probably not showing up yet. I wonder if Gero used other people's or creature's DNA to complete Cell. If so, maybe he picked someone fairly strong or talented we hadn't thought of.
DB Multiverse page 2433
Bubbles 23 Dezember 2024
Called it!
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 51
Bubbles 23 Dezember 2024
Gogetto sagte:
Yours faithfully, gast. I love this. I guess we know what triggers cell to come out for battle now but oh man I can only imagine with gero is thinking. I never thought an email would make such a great page in dbz

Oh and that "send drone to kill sender" is the cherry on top. This page is top tier

I don't think we're gonna see Cell yet. What I think will happen is that Gero and his army will be destroyed before he has time to activate #17 and #18.
Cell will wake up in a few years and go absorb #17 and #18 while they're still in their pod. Then go on to terrorize the universe and eventually be defeated by Gast.

happywarrior99 sagte:
Gogetto was saying: I guess we know what triggers cell to come out for battle nowU7 Cell was still a larva at the time Gast fought Androids 28 and 31. Cell is not loyal to Dr. Gero, and he (Cell) does not care about Dr. Gero's goals.

Super Gojita 3 was saying: if they did kill an android, I wonder if it was 19?I think that if they killed an Android it was probably Cyborg Tao Pai Pai or Cyborg Gohan.

It was always my headcanon that Taopaipai was one of Gero's cyborgs, somewhere between #9 to #12. Who else could have done it? And they both worked closely with the RR Army.
DB Multiverse page 2432
Bubbles 22 Dezember 2024
Kururun sagte:
Thorn is implying there is a chance the killer androids that tried to kill everyone, including himself and Gast's good friend (who obviously looks like he's suffered a lot), are possibly the good guys and might not have to be stopped. This isn't being a diplomat, this is being an idiot pretending to be smart.

Like I said above, being able to reach for reasons that can somewhat rationalize what that character is doing doesn't suddenly make it good.

I mean, Thorn is being annoying, but he isn't wrong in his approach. Hopefully he realizes soon enough what's going on.
DB Multiverse page 2431
Bubbles 22 Dezember 2024
Don't be an ass, Thorn. YOU GUYS started this "war" the moment you landed on Earth. Gast tried to reason with them and you know how it went. Not to mention the 2 Androids you just killed. The rest of the pack will be out for blood and it'll your fault. Hopefully Gast steps is. I'm curious about the lie though.

I recognize Giran from 21st Budokai and also Captain Chicken from 28th. I never once thought about this character since I read EoZ lol we know literally nothing about him. Also cool to see Yajirobe, Satan and Videl. It's a nice addition to the story. Lunch would have been a good pick too.

Btw, can Gast release people's potential, like Guru did? I'm pretty sure he did for Thorn. Did he do it for Kuririn and Gohan when they went to Namek? These humans can certainly use a little boost right now.

Bombero sagte:
So the big question is whether Cell is on the side of the resistance or the androids. if his end goal is to assimilate 2 androids, then he would naturally not be on the androids side, he'd be trying to kill at least 2 of them. Could Cell be hiding somewhere in the resistance base?

Now that would be funny!
DB Multiverse page 2431
Bubbles 25 November 2024
goten-kun sagte:
That's it, Namekseijin Densetsu is finished!
Started in 2014 and finished initially in 2016, concluding part 2 of the story, I decided to resume this story years later to conclude Piccolo's story.
Having made the manga 321Y in the meantime, I decided to make this third part a sequel, both to Namekseijin Densetsu, but also to 321Y by involving Tambo, a character that I really like.

I hope you enjoyed reading this story, even if I am far from having a high level of drawing. I put all my heart into this story.

With these last pages, we arrive very far in the future of Dragon Ball. About 600 years separate us from the end of Dragon Ball, I wanted to show with this ending that even if the danger is always present (whether it's Bracaa or something else), Piccolo will always make sure to be able to defend the planet Namek, from his hands or from those of his successors.

After 561 pages, this fan-manga is coming to an end and I'm quite happy to have been able to share it with you.

Early 2025 will see the beginning of my new fan-manga. I hope you'll like it!

Thank you all for taking the time to read my pages and talk about it with me here or elsewhere, thank you to Salagir for allowing me to share it on the DBM website.

See you soon for new adventures, long live Dragon Ball!

Thanks, man! I really liked your stories. The drawings might not always be perfect, but the pacing was. The characters are well developed and in-line with the DB universe. Most fan-made mangas don't dare expand too much on this, and those who do often fail, but yours do it well.

Without spoiling, could you give us a hint regarding your next manga? Does it follow the Tamboverse or is it more in line with DBM?

Anyway... Thank you for your good work. Keep it up! 1 Antworten
Namekseijin Densetsu page 561
Bubbles 22 November 2024
#28?? #31??

Ok, no one expected that! Seems like there's a whole army of them.

I wonder if they absorb energy... 1 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2419
Bubbles 20 November 2024
On the news' page, there was a picture of 2 new androids. It's probably them we're about to see.

https://w...tml?id_news2=13

Since this timeline diverged from U18 in Year 762 (10 years ago), Gero's plans may have gone a slightly different way. These could be different #19 & #20, or #17 & #18. Maybe they're #11 & #12, and Gero is still alive?
Also, keep in mind Cell has to stay in his embryonic form until 788, so no time soon. And he wouldn't have any Frost Demon DNA either. I think the best would be to drop him, but he was mentioned early in DBM, so I don't know what Salagir's plan is here. For this to make sense, we'll probably get a quite different Cell here.

mAc Chaos sagte:
King Kindred was saying: I'm confused as to why 19 and 20 would be here. They only showed up due to Trunks messing with time. Trunks shouldn't exist here unless Vegeta came to Earth and still got with Bulma.
its possible 19 and 20 were in the original timeline and trunks just never knew about them

Exactly. We have no idea wether or not #19 & #20 ever showed up in U12/14/15. 1 Antworten
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Bubbles 29 September 2024
Personally I would have replaced Raditz and Nappa by:
— Bojack's gang (they all died on the same day so why is Bojack the only one here?)
— Babidi (probably useless, but still has magic...)
— Dabra (I know he's in heaven, but Enma is pulling the strings and this comic is literally about travelling between realms)
— Yakon? (he's somewhat strong and was able to cancel the Super Saiyan transformation, though it probably wouldn't work against a Legendary transformation)
— Dr.Gero/#20? (no idea if cyborgs keep their technological enhancements once they died, but it would have been a nice addition to the group of villains)
Since Hildegan was a mindless beast and Cell Juniors were child-like, I assume they got purified pretty fast.
I also assume any villain with significant power who died more than decades ago has already been purified by now.

I don't really have any criticism. I don't mind the comic and the drawings definitely got better. The first few pages were fine, but proportions were a but weird on some of them. 1 Antworten
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Bubbles 28 September 2024
Meng_Shu sagte:
Hey I don't mean to be that guy, but shouldn't a piece of Virginia's hair be missing? Not a big deal though! I just that it'd be a funny nod.

There's an odd line in Vegeta's hair. I think this is exactly it. 1 Antworten
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Bubbles 27 September 2024
Really digging this... Hope this fight lasts at least 2 chapters.
DB Multiverse page 2396
Bubbles 25 September 2024
@about paneling
Not long ago I re-read the Goku vs. Piccolo fight during the 23rd Tenkaichi. It has fewer panels by page and more one-panel pages than any other saga, yet it's one of the best fight throughout the whole manga.
DB Multiverse page 2395
Bubbles 25 September 2024
Absolutely unnecessary... I love it!

How many pages are left? Are there other chapters?
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 25
Bubbles 21 September 2024
Master Roshi? 1 Antworten
321Y page 330
Bubbles 12 September 2024
Just re-read the whole chapter and... wow!
The colors are beautiful, as always, but props to the "cosmic wind" or whatever they're called. It was a nice touch.
DBMultiverse Colors page 226
Bubbles 30 August 2024
A dream finally come true! For a while I've been hoping we'd get Janemba at some point (not counting U21)! I literally shouted out "NO F WAY!" in my apartment.

This WILL be an interesting fight, as Gast and Janemba are both roughly SS3+-tiers. But we know Janemba has some weird-ass powers.

I think I know why Janemba exists in U5. In the movie, he was created after the purification machine got overloaded with too many souls. If XXI killed everybody in his universe, it makes sense that Janemba was created then. That's the same reason I kinda hope/expect to see him at some point in the current Broly OVA special. Like a final boss when everyone else died.

Edit: ok, Janemba is definitely stronger than SS3, probably closer to Super Buu. 2 Antworten
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Bubbles 28 August 2024
I think XXI is either lying, or is not as concerned with losing as he was during his previous matches because he finally found a way to get the dragonballs without having to win the tournament. Just an hypothesis.
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Bubbles 18 August 2024
I wasn't able to save the page, as all the elements of the cover are different components of the website. Could anyone copy the image as is, so I can save it? Thanks.
DB Multiverse page 2379
Bubbles 12 August 2024
@About whether this is a vision or not.
There are arguments for and against. I'll try to list them with counter-arguments. Lemme know if I forgot anything.

It's a vision
— Argument 1: Kakarotto and Vegeta were shown during IKL's rampage so the special couldn't have happened before that.
— -Counter-argument: Maybe Salagir messed up the timeline. There is a precedent for that.
— --Counter-counter-argument: I don't think he did. The only mistake regarding the timeline is when Raditz was shown alive on page 1514 (just before Raichi's rampage) when actually he was killed by Piccolo Daimao way before that. The reason this happened is because on the script it just said "have Vegeta with a bunch of Saiyans" and BK-81 decided to include Raditz, not knowing he was supposed to by dead by then. So I wouldn't really say it was Salagir who messed up, rather it was a lack of communication between artists.

— Argument 2: The blurry panel on page 2359.
— -Counter-argument: It could simply be a time skip, and not a vision starting.
So I guess it could be either since there's no precedent for this type of panel.

— Argument 3: It's a flashback chapter. If all this really happened, why make it a flashback chapter? Only the first 4 pages are a flashback, the other 20 pages literally happen AFTER the main story? Seems weird.

Not a vision
— Argument 1: It could be happening after IKL's rampage
— -Counter-argument 1: That would be a weird decision to show a chapter ahead of time.
— -Counter-argument 2: Ok, but why is Vegetto in a good mood after what happened to him?
— --Counter-counter-argument 1: Bad writing. But this argument can literally be used any time for any situation. If it can't be substantiated nor debunked with objective elements, I don't think it has any meaning.
— --Counter-counter-argument 2: Maybe some things have happened between IKL'S and Kakaditz's rampages and it will all be explained and it will make sense? Like, maybe Uub is coming back too and the way all these stories entangle together, maybe it made more sense to show this chapter before? I don't know.

— Argument 2: There is supposedly one page left in this chapter.
This means either:
1. The rest of the fight is shown in a different chapter, which means it's probably not a vision, as their story continues on.
2. The long and tenuous story of the evil Saiyans of Universe 13, who defeated plenty of enemies and finally learned stuff from their good counterparts really ends on the next page? That would suck ass, seriously. Their story is far from over.
3. Zen Buu is simply lying about the one page left.

Personally I've been thinking for the most part that it is a vision. But I'm not so sure anymore. My money is still on it though. 1 Antworten
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Bubbles 11 August 2024
So the evil Saiyans of U13 have been inspired by the good Saiyans of U18's way of doing things. That's unironically kinda cute.
But while Raditz's statement is true, how does he know that? Is he referencing to Buu's rampages, during which our heroes barely stood their ground the 2nd time? Some of them definitely helped each other during the Majin attack, but I don't think Raditz saw any of that. 1 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2377
Bubbles 9 August 2024
My money is on Nappa as the last man standing.

Unless he pulls a Paraguss and tries to escape while the strong guys fight each other.

DrewSaga sagte:
Good thing he is immortal so in practice he would only be out temporarily. I think Vegeta is fatally screwed here even if he beats Kakarotto and Raditz now since Kakarotto can just come back with his immortality and get his revenge before Vegeta is fully healed or healed at all (not counting the rebellions that might take place if they find out that Vegeta the tyrant can be beaten if they see Vegeta in such a pitiful state, at least those can get messy on him as well if he can't cement his position to his subjects as an invincible lord).

That would be interesting. They all fight each other till they're near death. Then the slaves and/or citizens spot them and decide to finish it once and for all.
Having the weak, common people defeating evil would make it very different from other universes, as it's always heroes and strong guys who defeat villains (or the opposite). 1 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2376
Bubbles 5 August 2024
DestroyerOfVegetards sagte:
Raditz is no good guy, but I'm hoping he will get a good ending here. He and Yamcha had been the jokes of DB all these years. Now that U9 Yamcha finally had his moment, I hope U13 Raditz will have his too. And this U13 Raditz actually cares for his brother, unlike the "original" DBZ Raditz (U18) who wouldn't hesitate to kill Goku.

We all know about Yamcha's curse, but Raditz's curse is even worse. Not only did he lost on the 1st round, every subsequent winner lost his next fight. Raditz was defeated by Baddack, who was defeated by Ginyu, who was defeated by Bra, who lost to Gast, who I'm certain will lose to XXI, who I'm pretty sure will lose against Goku. The way I see it, he's the biggest loser in the tournament. At least Yamcha lost to the winners of the 21st and 22nd tournaments.
DB Multiverse page 2374
Bubbles 25 Juli 2024
Hello Operator sagte:
I DO wonder if the potential unlock that Raditz got transfers over to Kakarot when they fuse. If so, that would explain in part why Kakaditz is vastly improved over his previous self. I would also say that, to be completely fair, with as cocky as Raditz is, the hardest fight he probably ever had was against the Goku/Piccolo team up. We honestly do not have any clue what his "potential" is as he has only fought significantly weaker opponents up to this point and has never had the chance to excel.

This is U13 Raditz, not U18's. Not only did this Raditz trainded with Kakarotto (going from 1,200 to 5,000), he then fought on Helior and got beaten by Zeeun (Lors Slug's gang), getting additional zenkais. The next thing we know is they fought Freeza on Namek (though we don't know who fought who among the henchmen). Then he boasted about being stronger than the Ginyu forces during his fight against Baddack. And he fought surprinsingly well against the Super Saiyan. I think Raditz has been treated unfairly when it comes to power. Not that many Saiyans have even reached that level (not even Nappa, I think).

JamesM sagte:
Thank goodness XXI can’t use the Mafuba!

It's possible you just accidently spoiled XXI vs. Gast's fight.
DB Multiverse page 2369
Bubbles 19 Juli 2024
Even if this is real, Kakaditz is doomed. Remember Vegetto's hunger problem? Even with Vegeta's empire at his disposal, I doubt it'll be possible to satisfy him. While he won't die, keeping his full strength and not constantly suffering will be an issue. 1 Antworten
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Bubbles 19 Juli 2024
Since Hell is involved and billions of people are being killed throughout the universe, I hope a Broly vs. Janemba finale is not off the table once everyone else died.

The Mighty Hyena sagte:
And yes, the technique that can kill Buu should absolutely be able to work on Broly because Carbonite is able to and has killed him in another Universe (3). Carbonite works on a similar concept as Vegito's technique, by reducing the matter to its basic form (atoms).
The only reason this will not work is because Salagir's Broly is a poorly-written-bag-of-hacks and covered in a thick plate of plot armor.
Just look at this special: alreadt we have some of the warriors not engaging because they want to live in heaven in peace... as if they don't know that even Otherworld is not immune to what happens in the living realm. Surely the Kais would tell them if Majin Buu threatened the Universe AND Otherworld, then surely Broly does as well. Only plot armor makes our heroes make this dumb decision.

They're not similar concepts. Vegetto's technique disintegrates, while Carbonite is a chemical transformation, which is not a very common theme in DragonBall. Since we have no idea whether that technique would work or not, it would be up to the author.
And Salagir didn't write that special... 1 Antworten
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 6
Bubbles 12 Juli 2024
Virgin Vegeta (literally) vs. Chad Kaditz!

brolyloco sagte:
JamesM was saying: Who are these French to English translators bro? Someone needs to be fired
“You can close the door… so I can kill you in peace.”

well, you are kinda right that its a bad translation, even i using the google translator (french to english, and by looking at the spanish and latin american languages of DBM, languages that i fully know), i can see that the second kakaditz comment should be ´´SO I can kill you in peace´´ the ´´like that´´ doesnt make sense in this context

I think Salagir meant "like that" as in "this way".
DB Multiverse page 2364
Bubbles 10 Juli 2024
No... WAY!!

So, this is for real?? When is this happening then? The font is the regular one, not the flashback/vision one, so it's probably not just Kaioshin or Raditz imagining this?

Also, Kaditz is just chilling, having tea. Does he want to talk or negotiate with Vegeta, or just taunt him?
DB Multiverse page 2363
Bubbles 8 Juli 2024
So, is this DBM-canon? Or is it a filler, like the novel? 1 Antworten
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 3
Bubbles 6 Juli 2024
I think out of all the possible fusion names for Raditz and Kakarotto (Kakatz, Kakaditz, Kakitz, Radotto, Raditto, Radiotto, Radarotto), Kaditz is probably the best one.

DB_depassage sagte:
He lied, Raditz should be stronger than Vegeta now. First Vegeta can only use SS3 for a short time. Second Raditz still have Oozaru transformation.

Matrixkid sagte:
In saying that, Raditz's progression is still really impressive. Remember he went from being lower than Frieza's first form to being close to SSJ2 Vegeta's overnight. And, that's not factoring in his Oozaru form! If he takes the earrings he'd probably fuse with Kakarot, most likely using deception or forcing it onto him. He'd be well above SSJ3 Prince Vegeta, and may even pose a threat to Vegito, plus he'd be immortal/half immortal on top of that.

SSJ Your Nick sagte:
Also Has Salagir forgot Oozaru? If he's sub-SSJ2 Vegeta tier, his Oozaru would wipe the floor with Vegeta.

Nassif9000 sagte:
as others pointed out in my previous comment, it's probably true that this is either raditz's maximum for good, or the elder kai is just lying to get him to fuse with someone (most likely kakarotto) and become a truly powerful champion: ultimate/mystic powerup, mental block from doing evil (most likely will work for stabilizing kakarot's insanity in the fusion), and of course the fusion itself. also thanks to zen buu powering up kakarotto earlier we know he is still fully in control of his oozaru state even after years of lacking a tail, and although U18 vegeta detached it, i'm inclined to believe a fusion where one saiyan has his tail remaining would end up with the tail anyway, and with both having the eye lamps, kakaditz will most definitely be on some level equivalent to buu saga super vegito or potentially greater due to kakarot's stabilized mental state allowing them to fight with a clearer mind and the ultimate powerup bringing out both raditz and kakarot's maximum potential in the fusion, and of course the oozaru form will boost his power beyond normal. old kai doing some RPG item and stat optimization tactics with the potara mechanic lmao
by DBM standards, like we saw in U13 Vegeta VS Raichi, the super saiyan forms are each in a realm of their own, so much so that the only way a super saiyan can ever match a super saiyan 2 is if their base power is so vastly different, something that seems to be achievable only through fusion and the offspring of a fusion, so his oozaru state will most likely be a greater boost than just x10, you have to account the fact that SS Oozaru exists in DBM, and then apply the old kai powerup to the oozaru form as you would SS for kakarotto's oozaru. so we're definitely looking at a form with a greater multiplier than just 50x or 500x

bobo son of christ sagte:
Ah man. We’ll never get to see Raditz fight as he is. Only fused or in Oozaru.

Mystic (or ultimate) form is the absolute max one can reach. Meaning the Oozaru form wouldn't make him stronger. It might actually even make him weaker in a way, since his density would be lower. Think of when Piccolo turned into a giant during the 23rd Budokai. Ended up being a burden more than anything else.
DB Multiverse page 2361
Bubbles 5 Juli 2024
FLStyle sagte:
Mystic Raditz is weaker then U13 SSJ3 Vegeta?

Well somebody better pick up that phone because I fucking called it!

Well, this makes sense from a writing perspective. If Raditz was stronger than Vegeta AND had no time limit in his new form, it'd be too easy. It needed to be balanced to be interesting.

DrewSaga sagte:
Either way, this is most interesting development still, who does the Old Kai intend Raditz to fuse with? Surely not U13 Kakarotto, the insane clown of U13.

Actually, it makes perfect sense. If Raditz had been able to easily get rid of Vegeta, he'd still be left with an immortal lunatic who'll remain a threat to the universe.
If Old Kaioshin did put somesort of blockade on Raditz's mind to keep him non-violent or something like that, as some of us have speculated, fusing him with Kakarotto solves the problem. Now there's only one warrior left, immortal and with the mental blockade.
And not telling Raditz that the fusion is permanent until it's done would most definitely be in-character for old Kaioshin. 2 Antworten
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Bubbles 29 Juni 2024
So Tsuru Sennin is still around and Tambo's father is his disciple!
Now this makes sense. If Tsurur Sennin and Roshi were Mutaito's disciples at the same time, they would be around the same age. So it's not hard to assume they were both immortal in DB.
321Y page 294
Bubbles 28 Juni 2024
Wait... When is this happening?
It said "an hour ago", but is it an hour before I'K'L's shenanigans, and is Old Kaioshin just re-watching events from the day before? Or is this special happening at the end of Day 3, and the chapters' releasing order was changed?

It couldn't be happening during Day 4 because Goku vs. Vegeta Round 1 was literally one second lol. Round 2 couldn't have been more than a few minutes at most. I'K'L's attack was literally zero seconds, as time was froze. And there was no breakfast. But I'm probably just over-thinking it, time never made that much sense in DragonBall.
DB Multiverse page 2358
Bubbles 4 Januar 2024
Apocalipticototal sagte:
Bubbles was saying: @about Frost Demons' power levels
How strong are they exactly? We don't know for a fact (until we get power levels, if we do), but here are a few infos that we know are DBM-canon:
— DB is set in the late 700s, during which Freeza and Coola are in their 200s and Cold in his 700s.
— This special is during the early 500s, so Cold and his brother are probably in their 500s or late 400s, so considerably older than Freeza and Coola, but still younger than Cold when he died (duh).
— Frost Demons become stronger with each generation, but we don't know by how much. Like, it could be 3% as well as 60% for all we know. Let's say it's about 10-15%.
— According to Salagir, Frost Demons' power doubles when they transform (it's true between reduction forms, but I don't know if it applies between 3rd and 4th forms).

So if Cold and Polar are in their original form, they should be much stronger than Freeza/Coola/basic Super Saiyan. I know their final potential is lower than Freeza's, but I doubt it's by half. So unless they stick to restriction forms (which is possible, since Cold still struggles with it centuries later), they should be at least stronger than Freeza. But still below a cyborg, because Cold barely reaches that level centuries later.

Now, what about Snower? He's obviously stronger than his sons, but I'm not sure how old he is. Can anyone who's familiar with Hanasia fanfiction or the Frost Demons' genealogy tell us what is Snower's age?
After a little research, here are the ages that Hanassia's novel gives us, along with my deductions about their power levels:

Year 503:

Snower: 1.039 years (estimated level in its final form: Cell semi-perfect content).

Cold and Polar: 556 years (estimated level in its final form: A17).

Year 764:

Cold: 817 years (deductible level: A16/Cell imperfect maximum power).

Cooler: 209 years (deductible level: intermediate between Trunks SSJ (first time travel) and Goku SSJ yadorat).

Freezer: 194 years (deductible level: Frieza lol, well this is the mecha, who was totally confident of being able to beat Goku SSJ alone, so a level higher than that Goku but lower than Gohan SSJ of the future is correct).

Based on this information, we can assume what biological period all the cold demons seen are in.

Snower would now be a middle-aged adult, bordering on seniority, while his children are currently at the end of their youth.

While Frieza and Cooler from the Namek saga to the multiversal tournament would be very young adults.

And since they are only separated by a generation, I deduce that Polar at his maximum power could stand up to Lapiz.

Michelrpg was saying: And based on the arms we can see the frost demon here is in a repressed form, so realistically there's no way they should be able to handle Bido here.
It is debatable, after all, not all cold demons share the same physical patterns as the others, you just have to remember Cooler's bull form, the only relationship he had with his brother in the same form were the cuerns.

It is for this reason that I am sure that this mysterious hooded man is Polar in his final form.

I like your estimations, but I always pictured Freeza and Coola as being teenagers (in Frost Demon years), like about 12 & 14 when they died in DBZ and 13 & 15 in DBM. Their constant petty arguments and especially Freeza's attitude make me believe that. Their size, compared to their father's, probably helped cementing the idea in my mind.

Page 964 showed 2 Frost Demon. I always assumed the big one was Polar and the smaller one Cold. But maybe it was the opposite, since the hooded figure doesn't seem noticeably big. Or maybe he switched to 3rd reduction form to hide his ki? 2 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2286
Bubbles 4 Januar 2024
Did this really happen? Maybe the Namekian said something like: "My wish is for you to play along with this mascarade; tell him he's now become immortal"...
Namekseijin Densetsu page 422
Bubbles 4 Januar 2024
@about Frost Demons' power levels
How strong are they exactly? We don't know for a fact (until we get power levels, if we do), but here are a few infos that we know are DBM-canon:
— DB is set in the late 700s, during which Freeza and Coola are in their 200s and Cold in his 700s.
— This special is during the early 500s, so Cold and his brother are probably in their 500s or late 400s, so considerably older than Freeza and Coola, but still younger than Cold when he died (duh).
— Frost Demons become stronger with each generation, but we don't know by how much. Like, it could be 3% as well as 60% for all we know. Let's say it's about 10-15%.
— According to Salagir, Frost Demons' power doubles when they transform (it's true between reduction forms, but I don't know if it applies between 3rd and 4th forms).

So if Cold and Polar are in their original form, they should be much stronger than Freeza/Coola/basic Super Saiyan. I know their final potential is lower than Freeza's, but I doubt it's by half. So unless they stick to restriction forms (which is possible, since Cold still struggles with it centuries later), they should be at least stronger than Freeza. But still below a cyborg, because Cold barely reaches that level centuries later.

Now, what about Snower? He's obviously stronger than his sons, but I'm not sure how old he is. Can anyone who's familiar with Hanasia fanfiction or the Frost Demons' genealogy tell us what is Snower's age? 1 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2286
Bubbles 19 Dezember 2023
iron leaf sagte:
Since we're definitely getting a special not just on Bojack's crew, but on the Frostdemons (Freeza's kin), I'm uploading a provisional graphic of Freeza's family tree in the DBM continuity. I hope this is helpful for some of you who are wondering who Polar and Snower are.

Nice!
Could you make one with their years of births, deaths and ages?
DB Multiverse page 2279
Bubbles 12 Dezember 2023
A divine mission? Not the Zamasu-type, I hope!
Namekseijin Densetsu page 412
Bubbles 10 Dezember 2023
Apocalipticototal sagte:
BangBang was saying: U1 and U10 as well, most likely. If they've been spreading destruction for several years then at this point the Kaioshins have already taken care of them in those universes.
It would be logical, but the chapter dedicated to universes 1 and 10 clarifies that the kaio-shins would intervene 4 years after what we see in this chapter page 554, because it makes a lot of sense to take years to stop a massacre and looting on a galactic scale, but when a racist civilization is being exterminated come instantly...

Exactly. The Kaioshins will kill them in Year 507 (page 554) and this is Year 503. So it's probably happening in U1 & U10 as well.
Maybe we'll see the split at the end of this chapter or the next one about Bojack (while I believe Salagir said there was another one being done, I'm positive he was trolling we he said there was 2 more on the way).

Now, why have the Gods waited for so long when they're supposed to be pro-active in that universe, or why haven't they eliminated the Frost Demons before (won't happen till Year 712) is anyone's guess. 2 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2276
Bubbles 10 Dezember 2023
JustSaiyan sagte:
Somebody quantify what "almost all "of infinity is for me please.

In this case, it means every universe that's at the tournament, except 2 & 5.
2 because it's a gag-manga universe that has nothing to do with the others and is completely illogical.
And 5 because it's XXI's universe and it diverged a long time before that. 1 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2276
Bubbles 6 Dezember 2023
supersaiyan2kakarot sagte:
Never thought that Selipa(Fasha) was that much older than Bardock. Also, is the last panel implying Bardock told his squad mates of Hanasia death, and Selipa is mocking Hanasia for it?

1. I'm 99.99& sure they just made this information up on the spot for the sake of this minicomic.
2. Yeah, that's the joke.

maswartz sagte:
"I've reached this age because I won't get killed in my youth like a loser, me!"

"me" ?????

Bad translation again. It makes more sense in French.
Minicomic page 127
Bubbles 2 Dezember 2023
Is this canon?
Minicomic page 125
Bubbles 29 November 2023
That's an interesting turn of event. We all knew XXI was the real XXI, but now it's confirmed.
The old Kaioshin is one of my favorite characters. I'm glad he's taking some initiative. Now I'm curious to know what his next move is.

I'm also wondering if we should expect a major reveal or something important for Chapter 100?

South_Ferry sagte:
The text is copyable now does this effect saving pages as images?

It's not supposed to be like that. They'll probably fix it soon enough.

iron leaf sagte:
Crazy idea, but what if Old Kaioshin causes the next interruption?

Yes! This was exactly my thought.

Today sagte:
Again, why do they portray these technologically advanced birds, who put together a multiversal tournament and know the consequences of things going wrong (which happened multiple times already), as careless people? They should be extremely vigilant about any issues by now.

Because it's funny. 1 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2274
Bubbles 26 November 2023
KidTrunks sagte:
"Normal Super Saiyan" is an awful name, but otherwise this an iconic page. I would have gone with super saiyan zero or super saiyan zen

I agree Normal Super Saiyan is a bit of a weak name. I also agree with iron leaf: I think Max Form is the best name.
Anyway. Really epic fight! Loved every page! Congrats, DBM team!!!

Is this the chapter's last page? It feels like one, but I think it's supposed to have one more. Maybe we get another XXI page or Gast's reaction or both's. 1 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2273
Bubbles 23 November 2023
Beni-Kujaku sagte:
Ayashi was saying: I find it quite hilarious how the Twins have exactly the same face in the last pannel.
Excuse me, does that make him girlish or her manish.

Neither. It makes them twinish.
DB Multiverse page 2271
Bubbles 14 November 2023
DrewSaga sagte:
True, but Raichi is tampering with the balance of the multiverse by intervening in worlds he has no business messing with. Though given the genocidal nature of U10 Saiyans, much like most Saiyans though U3's was far worse as you mentioned, it was fair game. But one has to wonder if Raichi could do this, why not U4 Buu?

Only U1 beings can "control" inter-universal travel. Nothing keeps Raichi or anyone from getting on a ship and hitching a ride.
DBMultiverse Colors page 96
Bubbles 13 November 2023
DrewSaga sagte:
So was the text on the speech bubbles on the DBM pages in bold text and this page isn't bold text or different font? Feels a bit off from the regular pages. But I do appreciate them adding new content to the main story as well such as Raichi eliminating U10 Saiyans (even though really he should butt out, I doubt U10 Saiyans could pose any danger to the universe anyways, especially with the Kais involved)..

The speech bubbles on the added pages have more space between the lines. The Latino-American Spanish version does too, on every page. Don't know why.

This shouldn't be a controversial opinion, but I think Raichi did nothing wrong. These Saiyans might not be too dangerous yet, but they could be at some point in the future. He doesn't know the Kaioshins are watching everything in U10. In U3, they clearly didn't. I really hope there'll be a special about that in the future (unless it's shown on the next pages). I welcome any special that's about Raichi or his ghosts.

Kaito Kid sagte:
Bubbles was saying: So Raichi killing U10 Saiyans as well is canon now? I remember in the novel, he sent Hanasia's ghost to eradicate them.

It's always been canon :)

I wouldn't say it was, since it didn't happen in the manga. The novel has too many contradictions to be considered truly canon. The way I see it, the novel is to DBM what the DBZ anime is to the original manga. Everything that is in the former but not the latter is just fillers. 1 Antworten
DBMultiverse Colors page 96
Bubbles 13 November 2023
So Raichi killing U10 Saiyans as well is canon now? I remember in the novel, he sent Hanasia's ghost to eradicate them. 1 Antworten
DBMultiverse Colors page 96
Bubbles 9 November 2023
Vegetto's and Pan's reactions were nice and all, but I really wanna see Cell's.

iron leaf sagte:
Yup, I actually think the DBM tournament fights are far too short in general. Every time I recommend this comic to someone, one of the responses I always get, is ...
"Most tournament fights seem rushed."
Remember, those people have the opportunity to read over 2000 pages at their own leisure. And indeed, with the exception of the gag fights & the handful of very well staged battles like Vegeta vs Raichi, Vegetto vs Broly, Cell vs Dabura, etc, the fights don't seem long enough imo. I'm really glad it's really taking its time here.

I agree. Even the longer fights seemed quick in comparison to the original manga. Majin Bra vs. everyone seemed long, but its lengths was simply closer to normal.

This fight really is epic and I'm glad Salagir decided not to rush it. I can't remember a fight (not just DBM, but anything DB-related) that shows how exhausted and at the end of the rope the fighters are. The amount of blood and sweat has been steadily increasing with every page and you can really feel the characters' pain.

I only wish he'd done the same for Goku vs. Uub because that fight was hyped to be the ultimate one at the end of the manga. Although an out-of-tournament rematch is probably not off the table, since both have greater powers than what they've shown last round (Goku having Max Form and Uub training at the moment).
DB Multiverse page 2265
Bubbles 22 Oktober 2023
What's up with the aura? New form incoming? 2 Antworten
DB Multiverse page 2258
Bubbles 18 Oktober 2023
iron leaf sagte:
Saiyan-Arc: Vegeta wins -> 1
(Goku is essentially incapacitated and is literally saved by Gohan, Krillin & Yajirobi)

Boo-Arc: Vegeta wins -> 2
(Even though, Goku would have won de jure with the SSJ3, de facto he was unconscious on the ground and Vegeta was not)

DBM U18 Special: Vegeta wins -> 3
(Similar to the Boo arc, both fight only in the SSJ2, and again Goku does not use the SSJ3. In the end, Vegeta wins the honorable SSJ2 duel).


Perhaps it is due to the false memory syndrome of many people who believe Goku actually won each of their fights. However, it may also be because many just want to express with such statements how much they would like to see Vegeta win once in a fight against Goku, with both giving completely everything and not holding anything back and without any intervention from others.
(But then you should say it like that and not write confusing comments that make others think that Goku once won a fight against Vegeta.)

On page 1806, Goku states that the last time they fought, he used SS3 and it ended the fight immediately.
Just because it hasn't been shown to us doesn't mean it didn't happen.
So we know for a fact that they fought at least 4 times (I'm guessing a few times more) and Goku won AT LEAST once, possibly more.
DB Multiverse page 2256
Bubbles 16 Oktober 2023
Prediction: next page Goku teleports behind(above) Vegeta and kicks him in the neck, sending him towards the beam. Vegeta gets pierced or even decapitated. FATALITY!

Just kidding, that would be very un-Gokuesque of him.


Fatman sagte:
I'm loving this art and this fight so much. It's some of the best of all worlds in this entire series and I'm lapping up every bit of it. I'd do the Dance of Respecting Mastery and Brilliance, but alas I'm just a comment section poster - I'm also fat lol.

I'm also looking forward to when mondocool finally narrates the completed version of this fight. We're close to the end now, but I have no idea how close. The first chapter of this fight is 32 pages long. I know there was a preamble and all of that, but it's still among one of the longest chapters in this whole series. This page is just #21 with 25 being a typical length. So 25-32 (or possibly longer) is possible. That means that this fight may not even end this week. It'd be great to read other participants impressions and thoughts on the whole fight, but I have a feeling the I'K'L finally being born is going to cut that very short.

This fight could go either way from what we know so far now. I want to say that Vegeta is still going to win somehow, but I'm betting my zeni on Goku. It's the most minute of observations and advantages that usually allows for Goku to win his tougher fights or to at least show some kind of dominance. He has multiple within this fight and outside of it that may be enough for him to just barely claim victory. I don't think it's brought up enough, but Vegeta is older than Goku. I know that as a saiyan he gets to stay in his prime until right before he's a super old man, but there has to be some kind of minor age-related penalty on the physical side when compared against someone of similar capabilities.

Vegeta is the first to voice the need to move beyond his current limit and that would mirror when he was the first one actively focusing on ascending beyond super saiyan. Great idea and since he's matured he actually hit the right path on his own this time around. Thing is, he likely unlocked super saiyan 3 first. I'm guessing that with Goku already having that form that he got to practice with and understand this ssj0 form first that they're using now. It may be why he's been more reluctant to use ki based attacks in this form while Vegeta has initiated them far more often and while expending far more energy doing so.

Vegeta has burned through so much energy during this fight and that may end up being his downfall. He started off so great with that beautiful elbow to the face combo. He's been putting on more heat and pressure, but he's been surprised three major times now. The after-image, the IT to grab his leg then wombo-combo him and now this concentrated kamehameha that has pierced then dissipated his final flash for a potentially upcoming and devastating blow on the next page.

The jury is still out on whether Goku actually forced the dissipation or if Vegeta decided to slyly let it go so that he can try a last minute dodge and counter-attack combo. Vegeta does favor using ki blasts more than Goku in their historical fights while Goku has always liked showing off what the unification of body and spirit can do along with his (stolen) techniques. Vegeta may finally get the win with 'Vegeta's Attack' here. Then again, Goku's last resort headbutt could be making a show here soon if the back-and-forth continues. Either way, this is a good fight and I'm enjoying it. No one should be mad with whoever the winner is, this is a pretty good showing.

We don't acutally know if the Saiyans really get weaker if they're still not old (not before their 80s I think). If there's anything, it's possible Vegeta has a slightly higher potential because he's a little older. But he was held back working for Freeza for so long.
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