New grand kaioshin is noryh kaioshiin? Whay happen to the original grand kaioshin

Pretty sure a Nappa without an arm is still a threat. I don't know why everyone is saying he's useless now (He's not even wet).
Unless Krilin and Chaotsu start spamming the same technique.

Oh, and who still remembers the name of the U10 Saiyan without looking it up? ;)

Super saiyan Gohan or Trunks?

Has this Gohan obtained ssj2 already?

FishNChips was saying: Time to train with Mr Popo. Think Roshi will join the Z Fighters?

Wonder if a new Kami will be chosen now...

Wasn't Roshi stronger than Yamcha in the end of dragon ball? If at all, he should have been on the same level. So him joining the Z Fighters could make sence.

So XXI knows how to speak Namekian, huh?

Females was saying: I like these pages, but not enough for 2 weeks worth. Also I see they made changes to page 2455 and Gave Cell an award for number of Kills along side Gast lol
As Females mentioned, Cell was added on page 2455. :)

Good question, where is Yamcha?

Und the Andoids don't deserve anything but shame for how they acted against I'K'L. Yamcha is the only hero there.

Hopefully this is the last "award" as I can't think of any other thing they could give awards to and I just wanna get back to the main story because while these inclusions are nice it kinda feels like stalling for the main story.

@Salagir
@Mods
I think the new feature that allows to swap pages from mobile is actually more annoying than helpful, because it makes it very difficult to move around a zoomed page.

How did he know there were other saiyans coming? Raditz only told Piccolo that in the original when he was dying.

From a literary standpoint we need XXI to win this fight so that we can have a main hero versus main villain finale. Goku versus Gast would be less interesting than a mystery villain with interesting powers taking on our main protagonist in a battle for the multiverse.

So as I see it we have two options for how this plays out:

XXI wins and we get the obvious final fight of the tournament.

— OR-

Gast wins and something interrupts the final match, forcing the two to team up to overcome without a definitive outcome to their 1v1.

The second option happens plenty in Z/Super.

Bubbles was saying: iron leaf was saying: Kururun was saying: ...Videl is not 10 years old.
Correct, she is actually 14.

While she does look a little small, she was fairly short too during Buu saga.
That is also incorrect lol

Videl should be 16 here (born in age 756), even though I also think she looks a bit younger here than that. She was 18 at the start of the Buu Saga (age 774) and this story is placed 2 years before that (age 772).

Kururun was saying: ...Videl is not 10 years old.

But but... who won? D:

Merry Xmas.

Just a little feedback regarding the swipe feature. It is sensitive, as we zoom in and panning left and right, the "swipe" feature would interpret it as swiping and navigate back or forth.

Yours faithfully, gast. I love this. I guess we know what triggers cell to come out for battle now but oh man I can only imagine with gero is thinking. I never thought an email would make such a great page in dbz

Oh and that "send drone to kill sender" is the cherry on top. This page is top tier

Gogetto was saying: I guess we know what triggers cell to come out for battle nowU7 Cell was still a larva at the time Gast fought Androids 28 and 31. Cell is not loyal to Dr. Gero, and he (Cell) does not care about Dr. Gero's goals.

Super Gojita 3 was saying: if they did kill an android, I wonder if it was 19?I think that if they killed an Android it was probably Cyborg Tao Pai Pai or Cyborg Gohan.

Thorn is implying there is a chance the killer androids that tried to kill everyone, including himself and Gast's good friend (who obviously looks like he's suffered a lot), are possibly the good guys and might not have to be stopped. This isn't being a diplomat, this is being an idiot pretending to be smart.

Like I said above, being able to reach for reasons that can somewhat rationalize what that character is doing doesn't suddenly make it good.

So the big question is whether Cell is on the side of the resistance or the androids. if his end goal is to assimilate 2 androids, then he would naturally not be on the androids side, he'd be trying to kill at least 2 of them. Could Cell be hiding somewhere in the resistance base?

That's it, Namekseijin Densetsu is finished!
Started in 2014 and finished initially in 2016, concluding part 2 of the story, I decided to resume this story years later to conclude Piccolo's story.
Having made the manga 321Y in the meantime, I decided to make this third part a sequel, both to Namekseijin Densetsu, but also to 321Y by involving Tambo, a character that I really like.

I hope you enjoyed reading this story, even if I am far from having a high level of drawing. I put all my heart into this story.

With these last pages, we arrive very far in the future of Dragon Ball. About 600 years separate us from the end of Dragon Ball, I wanted to show with this ending that even if the danger is always present (whether it's Bracaa or something else), Piccolo will always make sure to be able to defend the planet Namek, from his hands or from those of his successors.

After 561 pages, this fan-manga is coming to an end and I'm quite happy to have been able to share it with you.

Early 2025 will see the beginning of my new fan-manga. I hope you'll like it!

Thank you all for taking the time to read my pages and talk about it with me here or elsewhere, thank you to Salagir for allowing me to share it on the DBM website.

See you soon for new adventures, long live Dragon Ball!

King Kindred was saying: I'm confused as to why 19 and 20 would be here. They only showed up due to Trunks messing with time. Trunks shouldn't exist here unless Vegeta came to Earth and still got with Bulma.
its possible 19 and 20 were in the original timeline and trunks just never knew about them

Hey I don't mean to be that guy, but shouldn't a piece of Virginia's hair be missing? Not a big deal though! I just that it'd be a funny nod.

Good thing he is immortal so in practice he would only be out temporarily. I think Vegeta is fatally screwed here even if he beats Kakarotto and Raditz now since Kakarotto can just come back with his immortality and get his revenge before Vegeta is fully healed or healed at all (not counting the rebellions that might take place if they find out that Vegeta the tyrant can be beaten if they see Vegeta in such a pitiful state, at least those can get messy on him as well if he can't cement his position to his subjects as an invincible lord).

Raditz is no good guy, but I'm hoping he will get a good ending here. He and Yamcha had been the jokes of DB all these years. Now that U9 Yamcha finally had his moment, I hope U13 Raditz will have his too. And this U13 Raditz actually cares for his brother, unlike the "original" DBZ Raditz (U18) who wouldn't hesitate to kill Goku.

I DO wonder if the potential unlock that Raditz got transfers over to Kakarot when they fuse. If so, that would explain in part why Kakaditz is vastly improved over his previous self. I would also say that, to be completely fair, with as cocky as Raditz is, the hardest fight he probably ever had was against the Goku/Piccolo team up. We honestly do not have any clue what his "potential" is as he has only fought significantly weaker opponents up to this point and has never had the chance to excel.

Thank goodness XXI can’t use the Mafuba!

And yes, the technique that can kill Buu should absolutely be able to work on Broly because Carbonite is able to and has killed him in another Universe (3). Carbonite works on a similar concept as Vegito's technique, by reducing the matter to its basic form (atoms).
The only reason this will not work is because Salagir's Broly is a poorly-written-bag-of-hacks and covered in a thick plate of plot armor.
Just look at this special: alreadt we have some of the warriors not engaging because they want to live in heaven in peace... as if they don't know that even Otherworld is not immune to what happens in the living realm. Surely the Kais would tell them if Majin Buu threatened the Universe AND Otherworld, then surely Broly does as well. Only plot armor makes our heroes make this dumb decision.

JamesM was saying: Who are these French to English translators bro? Someone needs to be fired
“You can close the door… so I can kill you in peace.”

well, you are kinda right that its a bad translation, even i using the google translator (french to english, and by looking at the spanish and latin american languages of DBM, languages that i fully know), i can see that the second kakaditz comment should be ´´SO I can kill you in peace´´ the ´´like that´´ doesnt make sense in this context

He lied, Raditz should be stronger than Vegeta now. First Vegeta can only use SS3 for a short time. Second Raditz still have Oozaru transformation.

In saying that, Raditz's progression is still really impressive. Remember he went from being lower than Frieza's first form to being close to SSJ2 Vegeta's overnight. And, that's not factoring in his Oozaru form! If he takes the earrings he'd probably fuse with Kakarot, most likely using deception or forcing it onto him. He'd be well above SSJ3 Prince Vegeta, and may even pose a threat to Vegito, plus he'd be immortal/half immortal on top of that.

Also Has Salagir forgot Oozaru? If he's sub-SSJ2 Vegeta tier, his Oozaru would wipe the floor with Vegeta.

as others pointed out in my previous comment, it's probably true that this is either raditz's maximum for good, or the elder kai is just lying to get him to fuse with someone (most likely kakarotto) and become a truly powerful champion: ultimate/mystic powerup, mental block from doing evil (most likely will work for stabilizing kakarot's insanity in the fusion), and of course the fusion itself. also thanks to zen buu powering up kakarotto earlier we know he is still fully in control of his oozaru state even after years of lacking a tail, and although U18 vegeta detached it, i'm inclined to believe a fusion where one saiyan has his tail remaining would end up with the tail anyway, and with both having the eye lamps, kakaditz will most definitely be on some level equivalent to buu saga super vegito or potentially greater due to kakarot's stabilized mental state allowing them to fight with a clearer mind and the ultimate powerup bringing out both raditz and kakarot's maximum potential in the fusion, and of course the oozaru form will boost his power beyond normal. old kai doing some RPG item and stat optimization tactics with the potara mechanic lmao
by DBM standards, like we saw in U13 Vegeta VS Raichi, the super saiyan forms are each in a realm of their own, so much so that the only way a super saiyan can ever match a super saiyan 2 is if their base power is so vastly different, something that seems to be achievable only through fusion and the offspring of a fusion, so his oozaru state will most likely be a greater boost than just x10, you have to account the fact that SS Oozaru exists in DBM, and then apply the old kai powerup to the oozaru form as you would SS for kakarotto's oozaru. so we're definitely looking at a form with a greater multiplier than just 50x or 500x

Ah man. We’ll never get to see Raditz fight as he is. Only fused or in Oozaru.

Mystic Raditz is weaker then U13 SSJ3 Vegeta?

Well somebody better pick up that phone because I fucking called it!

Either way, this is most interesting development still, who does the Old Kai intend Raditz to fuse with? Surely not U13 Kakarotto, the insane clown of U13.

Bubbles was saying: @about Frost Demons' power levels
How strong are they exactly? We don't know for a fact (until we get power levels, if we do), but here are a few infos that we know are DBM-canon:
— DB is set in the late 700s, during which Freeza and Coola are in their 200s and Cold in his 700s.
— This special is during the early 500s, so Cold and his brother are probably in their 500s or late 400s, so considerably older than Freeza and Coola, but still younger than Cold when he died (duh).
— Frost Demons become stronger with each generation, but we don't know by how much. Like, it could be 3% as well as 60% for all we know. Let's say it's about 10-15%.
— According to Salagir, Frost Demons' power doubles when they transform (it's true between reduction forms, but I don't know if it applies between 3rd and 4th forms).

So if Cold and Polar are in their original form, they should be much stronger than Freeza/Coola/basic Super Saiyan. I know their final potential is lower than Freeza's, but I doubt it's by half. So unless they stick to restriction forms (which is possible, since Cold still struggles with it centuries later), they should be at least stronger than Freeza. But still below a cyborg, because Cold barely reaches that level centuries later.

Now, what about Snower? He's obviously stronger than his sons, but I'm not sure how old he is. Can anyone who's familiar with Hanasia fanfiction or the Frost Demons' genealogy tell us what is Snower's age?
After a little research, here are the ages that Hanassia's novel gives us, along with my deductions about their power levels:

Year 503:

Snower: 1.039 years (estimated level in its final form: Cell semi-perfect content).

Cold and Polar: 556 years (estimated level in its final form: A17).

Year 764:

Cold: 817 years (deductible level: A16/Cell imperfect maximum power).

Cooler: 209 years (deductible level: intermediate between Trunks SSJ (first time travel) and Goku SSJ yadorat).

Freezer: 194 years (deductible level: Frieza lol, well this is the mecha, who was totally confident of being able to beat Goku SSJ alone, so a level higher than that Goku but lower than Gohan SSJ of the future is correct).

Based on this information, we can assume what biological period all the cold demons seen are in.

Snower would now be a middle-aged adult, bordering on seniority, while his children are currently at the end of their youth.

While Frieza and Cooler from the Namek saga to the multiversal tournament would be very young adults.

And since they are only separated by a generation, I deduce that Polar at his maximum power could stand up to Lapiz.

Michelrpg was saying: And based on the arms we can see the frost demon here is in a repressed form, so realistically there's no way they should be able to handle Bido here.
It is debatable, after all, not all cold demons share the same physical patterns as the others, you just have to remember Cooler's bull form, the only relationship he had with his brother in the same form were the cuerns.

It is for this reason that I am sure that this mysterious hooded man is Polar in his final form.

Since we're definitely getting a special not just on Bojack's crew, but on the Frostdemons (Freeza's kin), I'm uploading a provisional graphic of Freeza's family tree in the DBM continuity. I hope this is helpful for some of you who are wondering who Polar and Snower are.

BangBang was saying: U1 and U10 as well, most likely. If they've been spreading destruction for several years then at this point the Kaioshins have already taken care of them in those universes.
It would be logical, but the chapter dedicated to universes 1 and 10 clarifies that the kaio-shins would intervene 4 years after what we see in this chapter page 554, because it makes a lot of sense to take years to stop a massacre and looting on a galactic scale, but when a racist civilization is being exterminated come instantly...

Somebody quantify what "almost all "of infinity is for me please.

Never thought that Selipa(Fasha) was that much older than Bardock. Also, is the last panel implying Bardock told his squad mates of Hanasia death, and Selipa is mocking Hanasia for it?

"I've reached this age because I won't get killed in my youth like a loser, me!"

"me" ?????

The text is copyable now does this effect saving pages as images?

Crazy idea, but what if Old Kaioshin causes the next interruption?

Again, why do they portray these technologically advanced birds, who put together a multiversal tournament and know the consequences of things going wrong (which happened multiple times already), as careless people? They should be extremely vigilant about any issues by now.

"Normal Super Saiyan" is an awful name, but otherwise this an iconic page. I would have gone with super saiyan zero or super saiyan zen

Ayashi was saying: I find it quite hilarious how the Twins have exactly the same face in the last pannel.
Excuse me, does that make him girlish or her manish.

True, but Raichi is tampering with the balance of the multiverse by intervening in worlds he has no business messing with. Though given the genocidal nature of U10 Saiyans, much like most Saiyans though U3's was far worse as you mentioned, it was fair game. But one has to wonder if Raichi could do this, why not U4 Buu?

So was the text on the speech bubbles on the DBM pages in bold text and this page isn't bold text or different font? Feels a bit off from the regular pages. But I do appreciate them adding new content to the main story as well such as Raichi eliminating U10 Saiyans (even though really he should butt out, I doubt U10 Saiyans could pose any danger to the universe anyways, especially with the Kais involved)..

Bubbles was saying: So Raichi killing U10 Saiyans as well is canon now? I remember in the novel, he sent Hanasia's ghost to eradicate them.

It's always been canon :)

Yup, I actually think the DBM tournament fights are far too short in general. Every time I recommend this comic to someone, one of the responses I always get, is ...
"Most tournament fights seem rushed."
Remember, those people have the opportunity to read over 2000 pages at their own leisure. And indeed, with the exception of the gag fights & the handful of very well staged battles like Vegeta vs Raichi, Vegetto vs Broly, Cell vs Dabura, etc, the fights don't seem long enough imo. I'm really glad it's really taking its time here.

Saiyan-Arc: Vegeta wins -> 1
(Goku is essentially incapacitated and is literally saved by Gohan, Krillin & Yajirobi)

Boo-Arc: Vegeta wins -> 2
(Even though, Goku would have won de jure with the SSJ3, de facto he was unconscious on the ground and Vegeta was not)

DBM U18 Special: Vegeta wins -> 3
(Similar to the Boo arc, both fight only in the SSJ2, and again Goku does not use the SSJ3. In the end, Vegeta wins the honorable SSJ2 duel).


Perhaps it is due to the false memory syndrome of many people who believe Goku actually won each of their fights. However, it may also be because many just want to express with such statements how much they would like to see Vegeta win once in a fight against Goku, with both giving completely everything and not holding anything back and without any intervention from others.
(But then you should say it like that and not write confusing comments that make others think that Goku once won a fight against Vegeta.)

I'm loving this art and this fight so much. It's some of the best of all worlds in this entire series and I'm lapping up every bit of it. I'd do the Dance of Respecting Mastery and Brilliance, but alas I'm just a comment section poster - I'm also fat lol.

I'm also looking forward to when mondocool finally narrates the completed version of this fight. We're close to the end now, but I have no idea how close. The first chapter of this fight is 32 pages long. I know there was a preamble and all of that, but it's still among one of the longest chapters in this whole series. This page is just #21 with 25 being a typical length. So 25-32 (or possibly longer) is possible. That means that this fight may not even end this week. It'd be great to read other participants impressions and thoughts on the whole fight, but I have a feeling the I'K'L finally being born is going to cut that very short.

This fight could go either way from what we know so far now. I want to say that Vegeta is still going to win somehow, but I'm betting my zeni on Goku. It's the most minute of observations and advantages that usually allows for Goku to win his tougher fights or to at least show some kind of dominance. He has multiple within this fight and outside of it that may be enough for him to just barely claim victory. I don't think it's brought up enough, but Vegeta is older than Goku. I know that as a saiyan he gets to stay in his prime until right before he's a super old man, but there has to be some kind of minor age-related penalty on the physical side when compared against someone of similar capabilities.

Vegeta is the first to voice the need to move beyond his current limit and that would mirror when he was the first one actively focusing on ascending beyond super saiyan. Great idea and since he's matured he actually hit the right path on his own this time around. Thing is, he likely unlocked super saiyan 3 first. I'm guessing that with Goku already having that form that he got to practice with and understand this ssj0 form first that they're using now. It may be why he's been more reluctant to use ki based attacks in this form while Vegeta has initiated them far more often and while expending far more energy doing so.

Vegeta has burned through so much energy during this fight and that may end up being his downfall. He started off so great with that beautiful elbow to the face combo. He's been putting on more heat and pressure, but he's been surprised three major times now. The after-image, the IT to grab his leg then wombo-combo him and now this concentrated kamehameha that has pierced then dissipated his final flash for a potentially upcoming and devastating blow on the next page.

The jury is still out on whether Goku actually forced the dissipation or if Vegeta decided to slyly let it go so that he can try a last minute dodge and counter-attack combo. Vegeta does favor using ki blasts more than Goku in their historical fights while Goku has always liked showing off what the unification of body and spirit can do along with his (stolen) techniques. Vegeta may finally get the win with 'Vegeta's Attack' here. Then again, Goku's last resort headbutt could be making a show here soon if the back-and-forth continues. Either way, this is a good fight and I'm enjoying it. No one should be mad with whoever the winner is, this is a pretty good showing.

It'll be a double K.O. and then XXI owns Gast in the next round and crap hits the fan and Vegetto goes berserk.
Nya nya.

Watch Zombie-Man be Yamcha.

if you're confused by the perspective/angle, keep in mind that in the previous page vegeta literally blasted himself up from the ground, pay attention to the crater in between them and the perspective makes more sense, he's at a 30-45 deg angle above ground relative to goku.

If Gohan is replacing Goku in the tournaments, whose going to replace the wolf man in the next tournament since the moon need not be destroyed?

ste95 was saying: This is a terrible mistake, because not only does it change the presence of a character who appeared in the manga in a couple of pages, but it conflicts with what is told in the novel in chapter 16, where there is an dialogue with Kiwi!!
Also there is no reason to believe that Kiwi died on Namek, as in the U8 specials he doesn't appear, a sign that he never went to Namek without Vegeta.

At the presentation of this color manga it's written that there will be elements taken from the novel, and where do you remove them? VERY BAD! TO BE CORRECTED IMMEDIATELY!
Lol! Indeed, U8 Kiwi didn't went to namek because the reason he went there in U18 the first place is to follow Vegeta. So, he should be alive. And I did in fact mentioned it to him about Kiwi being in the novel. His response to that was "It's a plot hole. We don't see him appearing again in the comic. He's dead! xD" And I was like "Shit! Alright, he's dead. Whatever! xD" Like I said, none of us cared enough to stop him... And it's less character to color, sooooooooo... xD

But don't worry, there won't be any other character remove with no reason (or with reason). However, some characters will be replaced with others. And you will see it in this chapter. Don't worry, they're minor characters, you will understand when you see the pages. :)

SuperSaiyan4Vegetto was saying: Hmm, my money is on Giran. Goku won because he's stronger AND the nimbus cloud saved him.

If Giran wins this, it'll be for the joke where all of the MCs get eliminated in the first round.

Yamcha has a nose so isn't immune to Bacterian.
Roshi is perhaps UNIQUELY vulnerable to Lan-Fan
Krillin doesn't have as many saves as Goku so Giran tosses him out.
And Gohan, seeing that his pupil is out and he no longer needs to teach him a lesson, concedes to Namu.

As for who would win the tournament overall, I think the final would be Giran vs Namu. We have no reason to think that Giran would be swayed by Lan-Fan, and I believe in Namu's discipline in resisting Bacterian's uh... "techniques" and beating him quickly.

So then the question comes down to whether Namu can defeat Giran.

Glad they changed the fights so it's not just U18 with Gohan instead of Goku.

Here are my predictions:
Kulilin defeats Giran
Jacky Choun defeats Lanfan (though I'm not 100% sure)
Yamcha defeats Bacterian
Brice Lou (LOL, good one!) defeats Namu
Jacky Choun defeats Kulilin
Brice Lou defeats Yamcha
Not sure about the finale...

Jacky Choun vs. Brice Lou: a fan-service fight we never had the chance to see. It's implied in DB that Roshi was the most powerful human prior to the Z-Fighters, but Gohan seemed to do better than him against Goku. This could be because he was dead though, and it was always my headcanon that being dead somewhat makes you stronger.

Is this really going to be one chapter though? That seems a bit short for these 7 fights.