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King Kindred sagte:
ZGrssd was saying: If it is the Spirit bomb, it probably won't work.
Not a lot of life left.
I doubt Goku Black could even pull off a Spirit Bomb since he's pure evil. It'd destroy him before it'd help him.
It's definitely Kaioken, but I call cap cause that's King Kai's technique and Zamasu/Goku Black never showed signs of knowing or using it. Why is this version of Goku Black so broken? It doesn't make any sense. What is going on in the timeline Whis sent Trunks to?
Not a lot of life left.
I doubt Goku Black could even pull off a Spirit Bomb since he's pure evil. It'd destroy him before it'd help him.
It's definitely Kaioken, but I call cap cause that's King Kai's technique and Zamasu/Goku Black never showed signs of knowing or using it. Why is this version of Goku Black so broken? It doesn't make any sense. What is going on in the timeline Whis sent Trunks to?
There's a really good doujin where Kakarot (who awakens to his original self) forcibly extracts life energy from the planet and its inhabitants to form a spirit bomb.
But yeah, in this case there's not enough life left. It makes more sense for it to be Kaioken since Trunks would just rush him if Black tried to charge up a spirit bomb. 1 Antworten
Why couldn't XXI wait until the second wish instead of interrupting the first wish? Was that needed for whatever his wish is? Or perhaps just dramatic effect?
DB Multiverse page 2520
pip25 sagte:
And so, after so many years, the Multiverse Tournament ends. With a whimper.
What an utter disgrace. Salagir went and humiliated the main protagonist of Dragonball, showing little respect to him in this fight or to those who care about the character - the childhood hero of many people, myself included. Worse still, from the buildup and, heck, the chapter cover itself, this seems to be no fluke, but a genuine attempt to troll the readers.
Just to make things perfectly clear: the issue here is NOT that XXI won the match, and thus the tournament. XXI winning could have been a great twist, especially after the foreshadowing suggested that XXI himself was not sure of his victory. Most people would have expected Goku to win somehow, and defying expectations can be a good thing, if done well. Goku trying his best and still failing could have been epic.
But instead, Goku lost like a moron.
Every single opponent of XXI, even Vegetto who confronted him first, knew that they should not give him the chance to cast any spells or use other magic. Heck, even Goku showed awareness of this fact at the start of the match, when he tried to arrange things so he could transform PRIOR to the beginning of the battle. So then, after breaking out of XXI's alternate dimension, why, just WHY in the name of all kaio shins did he simply stand there, monolouging like an idiot??? That was his chance, his ONLY chance in fact to strike back, and he wasted it. According to Vegeta, less than a second is pretty much "an eternity" in this form, so he apparently wasted more than an eternity to brag - and paid for it with his life. His defeat is utterly humiliating.
Call me an entitled reader, if you want. But actually, even if my contribution wasn't huge, I've been part of this fancomic's team for around 15 years now, doing comment mod work and translating pages to Hungarian day after day, week after week. I've tried to remain constructive when Pan was killed, I've tried to voice my concerns in a civil manner when U16 Bra was let off the hook. But this... this is worse than those combined, and it breaks my heart. :( This feels like all my efforts were a waste of time, because Salagir not only made Goku look like an idiot, but deemed it necessary to end the tournament, the main theme of the ENTIRE story, with a random, anticlimactic plot device - because that's what I'k'l's power is. We have no idea how it works, how it could possibly be countered, we have no idea why cyborgs are unaffected by it... it's just conveniently there. So, so incredibly disappointing and disheartening. :(
What an utter disgrace. Salagir went and humiliated the main protagonist of Dragonball, showing little respect to him in this fight or to those who care about the character - the childhood hero of many people, myself included. Worse still, from the buildup and, heck, the chapter cover itself, this seems to be no fluke, but a genuine attempt to troll the readers.
Just to make things perfectly clear: the issue here is NOT that XXI won the match, and thus the tournament. XXI winning could have been a great twist, especially after the foreshadowing suggested that XXI himself was not sure of his victory. Most people would have expected Goku to win somehow, and defying expectations can be a good thing, if done well. Goku trying his best and still failing could have been epic.
But instead, Goku lost like a moron.
Every single opponent of XXI, even Vegetto who confronted him first, knew that they should not give him the chance to cast any spells or use other magic. Heck, even Goku showed awareness of this fact at the start of the match, when he tried to arrange things so he could transform PRIOR to the beginning of the battle. So then, after breaking out of XXI's alternate dimension, why, just WHY in the name of all kaio shins did he simply stand there, monolouging like an idiot??? That was his chance, his ONLY chance in fact to strike back, and he wasted it. According to Vegeta, less than a second is pretty much "an eternity" in this form, so he apparently wasted more than an eternity to brag - and paid for it with his life. His defeat is utterly humiliating.
Call me an entitled reader, if you want. But actually, even if my contribution wasn't huge, I've been part of this fancomic's team for around 15 years now, doing comment mod work and translating pages to Hungarian day after day, week after week. I've tried to remain constructive when Pan was killed, I've tried to voice my concerns in a civil manner when U16 Bra was let off the hook. But this... this is worse than those combined, and it breaks my heart. :( This feels like all my efforts were a waste of time, because Salagir not only made Goku look like an idiot, but deemed it necessary to end the tournament, the main theme of the ENTIRE story, with a random, anticlimactic plot device - because that's what I'k'l's power is. We have no idea how it works, how it could possibly be countered, we have no idea why cyborgs are unaffected by it... it's just conveniently there. So, so incredibly disappointing and disheartening. :(
Bubbles sagte:
After all these years, the tournament ends in the most anti-climatic way possible... I love it!
The duality of DBM readers
It's possible that Raditz didn't use full strength with that blast because it was for a civilian
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Saigo no Son page 81
I'm not getting why Nappa is mad about being attacked off guard. Who did that, other than Nasu jumping in to attack Tien?
Saigo no Son page 77
I still think Gohan is up to something or is conflicted at the least. He always has sweat beads.
Saigo no Son page 55
Beni-Kujaku sagte:
So, is that more of a Vegeta move or a Cell move?
Why would it be a Cell move? Are you talking about Black's "you would destroy the planet" comment (in which case, how would that be a Vegeta move)? 1 Antworten
Is Vegeta thinking what we're thinking--that he was too soft on Krillin--and will raise his suspicions even more?
Saigo no Son page 46
What if you forcibly fused Broly and another character, and then the fused character killed himself?
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 80
Greenfox sagte:
Sooo bullets hardly scratched kid Goku's skin when he was first introduced.....and now Goku black, who is millions or even billions times stronger than start-kid-Goku is bleeding from a shotgun bullet.....sure a shotgun bullet has more impact than the pistol Bulma used at the start of Dragon Ball....and the bullet could even be enhanced to do more damage....but did I mention yet that Goku black is millions or even billions times stonger than start-kid-Goku?
Oh and please don't mention Goku and Krillin getting hurt by bullets in Dragon Ball Super because that's just as odd to me...I cut those clips out of those episodes.
Yes I know, power scaling is BS and bla bla bla....and maybe my opinion is not popular, but I don't think Goku black would bleed because of any type of gun bullet.
Oh and please don't mention Goku and Krillin getting hurt by bullets in Dragon Ball Super because that's just as odd to me...I cut those clips out of those episodes.
Yes I know, power scaling is BS and bla bla bla....and maybe my opinion is not popular, but I don't think Goku black would bleed because of any type of gun bullet.
I completely agree. Not to mention that shotguns fire multiple pellets, not a single bullet with the cartridge still attached 1 Antworten
Thanks for following up on this. Hopefully, there's more about the mysterious beings on the next page of the explanation.
DB Blancoverse page 103
Everyone died because Goku cried too much as a baby
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 73
Nice lineup.
Nasu vs. Krillin is going to be a physical and emotional clash.
Saigo no Son page 31
Nasu vs. Krillin is going to be a physical and emotional clash.
Herp Derp sagte:
The feels in those middle 2 panels.
That feel whenever Trunks sees Gohan alive
What, we have to completely destroy Broly's nucleus to kill him?
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DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 70
Interesting how he can regen without much energy...
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DB Multiverse page 2447
If it was going to end like this, it could have ended like a page or two ago instead of setting up some climactic fight
321Y page 372
Dicax sagte:
"Revenge" is way too strong of a word here, unless Orzo went out and secretly re-murdered the mom or Tambo is secretly Vegeta-level arrogant. "You won't beat me this time" or suggesting this fight will be different than their last match would be much more fitting.
I'm not sure about that. Seems like friendly banter. "Revenge" doesn't have to be such an intense word (even though some of the translations elsewhere are indeed stilted). 1 Antworten
How are they going to continue with that giant luggage lol
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DB Multiverse page 2424
Where are the blue parts coming from?
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DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 39
Damian Qualshy sagte:
SuperDuper Goku was saying: Just wish for broly to be 40 kajillion light-years that way. Then it don't matter if he's invincible, he another immortal. He's got no oxygen in space, and he'll pass out and die/freeze before he even makes it one light-year. I know it's DB but we can use our brains instead of our fists sometimes. I think we need future trunks' pragmatism.
He'll just get back, lol. Before Goku even dies of old age.
He'll just get back, lol. Before Goku even dies of old age.
Wish Broly to be sent back again lol 1 Antworten
Is the plan to shred Gast to so many pieces that he can't regenerate?
DB Multiverse page 2403
Cor Petit sagte:
This is so sad bet the z warriors just exterminated the mini buus to prevent the wizards from gaining their power or something
Where does it say it was the Z fighters who destroyed the mini Buus? 1 Antworten
kingworld sagte:
Today was saying: How is Goku still alive then?
"alive" with a halo?
"alive" with a halo?
Oops, you're right. Forgot it from a few pages back
Damian Qualshy sagte:
FearfulDivine was saying: Why didn't Frieza use his 100% form during this
Same reason why Goku told him on Namek that it's dumb? Same reason why Cell made fun of Trunks when he used Grade 3?
Same reason why Goku told him on Namek that it's dumb? Same reason why Cell made fun of Trunks when he used Grade 3?
Seems like there's no need to optimize for speed in this case. And the issue with Frieza's full power was stamina, not sure about speed.
beeruz sagte:
Still don't know why nobody from u18 has bothered to learn the kai kai
Valid question regarding instant transmission (although it was tough for Vegeta to learn it) but kai kai might be unique to Kibito 1 Antworten
What happens to the halo when someone's head is ripped off like that?
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DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 16
Uzurper sagte:
Doe anyone feel bad for him yet? Cuz I don't.
I do. He is atoning.
Salagore sagte:
Today was saying: Was it necessary and feasible to punch through him instead of knocking him out?
I thought there was a mutual respect. I thought they were both exhausted.
This guy was pretty ok and cool, he, instead of killing could give him a hand, 'Congrats, you can join our team'.
Did you see that face in previous page? It's a face of someone that has no where to go ánd has some sanity/honor left.
I thought there was a mutual respect. I thought they were both exhausted.
This guy was pretty ok and cool, he, instead of killing could give him a hand, 'Congrats, you can join our team'.
Did you see that face in previous page? It's a face of someone that has no where to go ánd has some sanity/honor left.
That's a good way to put it! I like it - the "face of someone who has nowhere to go but has some honor left"
Was it necessary and feasible to punch through him instead of knocking him out?
I thought there was a mutual respect. I thought they were both exhausted. 2 Antworten
321Y page 309
I thought there was a mutual respect. I thought they were both exhausted. 2 Antworten
Of course Ultimate Kakaditz is going to lose.
He can't beat any SSJ when he's never been one himself.
DB Multiverse page 2371
He can't beat any SSJ when he's never been one himself.
Bra's "who decided that" sounded familiar... I thought about it, and I think it might be a parody from one of the later episodes of Baka Test (hilarious series) where Mutsulini takes on his teacher at the bathhouse (I know that sounds very random if you haven't seen it)
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Chibi Son Bra did her best! page 162
Goku looking like he went Kaioken Max
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DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 6
Rey Vegeta sagte:
Today was saying: What you mean no choice? You were going to kill him anyway?
Do you really believe that some Kikoho pushes are going to kill Tambo
Do you really believe that some Kikoho pushes are going to kill Tambo
My point was that he said he was left with no choice. There had only been one choice left for him - to kill Tambo. That was the entire point of the fight. Something about that wording didn't make sense to me.
What you mean no choice? You were going to kill him anyway?
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321Y page 298
SuperSaiyan4Vegetto sagte:
Well....this is intriguing.
I do think it's better since I did find it hard to believe that even Mystic Raditz could ever defeat U13 Vegeta. Honestly him beating Vegeta at Super Saiyan 2 would be a bit of a stretch IMO
Raditz is not Gohan, I can see Raditz defeating SSJ2 Gohan in the Cell Games maybe even Majin Vegeta as a stretch but the novel said the Cell Jr. who fought Vegeta was "Stronger than the average Super Saiyan 2" which is SSJ2 Goku Buu Saga level.
So honestly even SSJ2 U13 Vegeta would likely be too much for him.
Maybe he can fuse with Nappa? - Probably not since part of the plan for cleaning up was the need to kill Vegeta AND Nappa.
Unless he's going to get rid of Vegeta here. I don't see who it could be.
I do think it's better since I did find it hard to believe that even Mystic Raditz could ever defeat U13 Vegeta. Honestly him beating Vegeta at Super Saiyan 2 would be a bit of a stretch IMO
Raditz is not Gohan, I can see Raditz defeating SSJ2 Gohan in the Cell Games maybe even Majin Vegeta as a stretch but the novel said the Cell Jr. who fought Vegeta was "Stronger than the average Super Saiyan 2" which is SSJ2 Goku Buu Saga level.
So honestly even SSJ2 U13 Vegeta would likely be too much for him.
Maybe he can fuse with Nappa? - Probably not since part of the plan for cleaning up was the need to kill Vegeta AND Nappa.
Unless he's going to get rid of Vegeta here. I don't see who it could be.
I can't see him beating anyone other than MAYBE Ginyu on Namek.
The Namek elder drew out Gohan's potential while Gohan was stronger than Raditz at the time. Gohan still got bodied by a mid-tier Ginyu Force member. Let's say Elder Kai can draw out more of someone's potential. Each of these seems to draw SOME out but not the absolute max because Gohan continued to get stronger (unless you set aside Beast as a retcon).
Raditz is among the relatively weak. He can't beat any SSJ when he's never been one himself.
Fusion could help since it supposedly multiplies the strengths of the fused people, more than the sum of its parts. 1 Antworten
Lol, her attack produced a lot of smoke... Calling out the smoke trope
Chibi Son Bra did her best! page 158
Gotta go with the classic Dead Zone approach. Mafuba his ass
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Namekseijin Densetsu page 494
Shouldn't Piccolo be super strong at this point, stronger than Kai and SSJ1, unless old age caught up to him?
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Namekseijin Densetsu page 490
Saiyan genes from his mother... Pan? Bra? Or a descendant?
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Namekseijin Densetsu page 477
I'd like it if this version of Beast turns out to be the offensive-type UI that they hinted at the Tournament of Power. As he says, he's stronger power level-wise. White hair. Whis was "concerned" about it.
DB Blancoverse page 96
supersaiyan2kakarot sagte:
SuperSaiyanJ was saying: I'm guessing this will later to be shown as planned and this is all an act
If that turns out to be true then I'll take back what I said about them earlier. Also, it would be weird for 17 to say he's number 1 when 18 is currently stronger than him by a wide margin now.
If that turns out to be true then I'll take back what I said about them earlier. Also, it would be weird for 17 to say he's number 1 when 18 is currently stronger than him by a wide margin now.
looks like he said he's number 17, not number 1 1 Antworten
I thought they weren't going to go easy on him from the start...
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DB Blancoverse page 92
Aren't kaioshin supposed to be super strong (like SSJ2 level)?
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Namekseijin Densetsu page 448
Why do people keep thinking this is going to be a gag? This is the main plotline, not the omake strips.
DB Multiverse page 2308
Interesting that they want to 2v1 him instead of going 1v1
DB Blancoverse page 88
This is getting good! I prefer this over the DBS match right now (half of the latest chapter was filler with Gotenks)
DB Blancoverse page 87
At first I thought Vegeta was in a frustrated expression rather than a laughing one. Laughing is better
DB Blancoverse page 83
Who refers to themselves as Mr. _ unless they're a teacher in school?
321Y page 232
DrewSaga sagte:
Lucas was saying: I wonder if they will take the route where this new form is an "angel form" of some sort, hence the white hair.
Or the total opposite, and it's a "demon" form of some sort, hence the red eyes.
It's funny that we're also getting the continuation from Super Hero in the Super manga now. Though so far they've only vaguely stated that Gohan may have surpassed Goku and Vegeta with Beast, and that he can transform at will. Should be interesting to see how the canon explanation compares to this one.
I am betting that in terms of strongest to weakest (among mortals, Whis is obviously on top in U7 and Beerus is probably weaker than or equal to Broly, hard to tell especially when Toriyama keeps buffing Beerus's power up so he stays relevant) among mortals, the top seven still alive (Moro and Gas being dead in U7 would be:
1) Broly (It took SSJB Gogeta to beat him and Broly is stronger/has better control of his power since)
2) Gohan
3) Frieza (Though Frieza could still be stronger than Gohan)
4) Granolah
5) Goku
6) Vegeta (though pretty close to Goku most likely and could overtake Goku if he can "master" Ultra Ego like Goku "mastered" Ultra Instinct since he beat Goku when they both fought in their base form)
7) Piccolo
(I forgot Granolah is still alive, or he might be, idk, I also don't know if Goku and Vegeta overtaken Granolah but I don't think Piccolo has)
Or the total opposite, and it's a "demon" form of some sort, hence the red eyes.
It's funny that we're also getting the continuation from Super Hero in the Super manga now. Though so far they've only vaguely stated that Gohan may have surpassed Goku and Vegeta with Beast, and that he can transform at will. Should be interesting to see how the canon explanation compares to this one.
I am betting that in terms of strongest to weakest (among mortals, Whis is obviously on top in U7 and Beerus is probably weaker than or equal to Broly, hard to tell especially when Toriyama keeps buffing Beerus's power up so he stays relevant) among mortals, the top seven still alive (Moro and Gas being dead in U7 would be:
1) Broly (It took SSJB Gogeta to beat him and Broly is stronger/has better control of his power since)
2) Gohan
3) Frieza (Though Frieza could still be stronger than Gohan)
4) Granolah
5) Goku
6) Vegeta (though pretty close to Goku most likely and could overtake Goku if he can "master" Ultra Ego like Goku "mastered" Ultra Instinct since he beat Goku when they both fought in their base form)
7) Piccolo
(I forgot Granolah is still alive, or he might be, idk, I also don't know if Goku and Vegeta overtaken Granolah but I don't think Piccolo has)
Frieza is most certainly stronger than Gohan. Vegeta was saying Gohan may have surpassed them, but it didn't sound definitive or by a large extent. So Gohan, Vegeta and Goku are probably in a similar league, so all of them are weaker than Black Frieza who is still a concern to them.
TwoWordsMade3210 sagte:
Today was saying: Blancoverse more like Piccoloverse
Give it time, were so early to even make judgement on which arc was the best. We just started, don't be dramatic
Give it time, were so early to even make judgement on which arc was the best. We just started, don't be dramatic
Hardly dramatic
Again, why do they portray these technologically advanced birds, who put together a multiversal tournament and know the consequences of things going wrong (which happened multiple times already), as careless people? They should be extremely vigilant about any issues by now.
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DB Multiverse page 2274
Clone Akkount sagte:
Imagine living and training for nearly 1,000 years to git gud at something only to see kids reaching that level in a fraction of that time. My man Jiren must be experiencing mid life crisis right now.
Normally, mortals should NOT be achieving Ultra Instinct that easily, within an hour of fighting, just from "being pushed beyond his limits" (which has happened many times already). It's just lazy writing on Super's part to create new forms for merchandise and games. 1 Antworten
It's not a completely fair fight since Goku is taller by a few inches lol. He has the height and mass advantage!
DB Multiverse page 2269
RockyJoe sagte:
Today was saying: SkyFish was saying: Wont change a thing. Bardock had 10.000 power level, ssj gives pwrlvl x50. He is still weaker than friezas first form.
Yep, he's still cooked unless this Bardock has a higher power level (like 3 million, in which case he doesn't need to transform to beat the first form). But SSJ with even a slightly stronger base power (say 12000) would be enough to beat Frieza in his first form.
Freeza in his first form is within the 500k range. 100k isn't going to make Freeza sweat much. Maybe he can grapple with him like Vegeta did, but that's about it.
Yep, he's still cooked unless this Bardock has a higher power level (like 3 million, in which case he doesn't need to transform to beat the first form). But SSJ with even a slightly stronger base power (say 12000) would be enough to beat Frieza in his first form.
Freeza in his first form is within the 500k range. 100k isn't going to make Freeza sweat much. Maybe he can grapple with him like Vegeta did, but that's about it.
To rephrase my comment, base power 12000 x 50 would put Bardock at 600k, enough to handle first form Frieza.
SkyFish sagte:
Wont change a thing. Bardock had 10.000 power level, ssj gives pwrlvl x50. He is still weaker than friezas first form.
Yep, he's still cooked unless this Bardock has a higher power level (like 3 million, in which case he doesn't need to transform to beat the first form). But SSJ with even a slightly stronger base power (say 12000) would be enough to beat Frieza in his first form. 1 Antworten
Dadji sagte:
Ahhh! was saying: he's not dealing with the average Saiyan warrior anymore!
Ahhh! was saying: he's not dealing with the average Saiyan warrior anymore!
Oh god! Not this again.. -_- sighs
Ahhh! was saying: he's not dealing with the average Saiyan warrior anymore!
Oh god! Not this again.. -_- sighs
TFS references are top 10 lamest things to grace Internet comments
I guess in his universe knowing the god of destruction is common.
DB Blancoverse page 57
How is he staying calm while desperately firing off a ki wave (I see the bulging vein)
DB Multiverse page 2252
This blow seemed relatively easy to block... What's going on, Goku?
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DB Multiverse page 2246
PrinceOfTheHood sagte:
Little Pan can see them despite not even being in her SSJ1 Form. That means they must be greatly weakened right now compared to the Beginning.
Still an awesome Fight. Thanks again Salagir for giving us this cool, equal Goku versus Vegeta Match that the Dragon Ball Fanbase waits for, since the Nineties.
Still an awesome Fight. Thanks again Salagir for giving us this cool, equal Goku versus Vegeta Match that the Dragon Ball Fanbase waits for, since the Nineties.
If we go by early DBZ standards, people with power levels of 2000-3000 (e.g., Krillin) could follow super-speed fighting. She doesn't need to be anywhere close to SSJ to follow tired Vegeta and Goku fighting. So far, they seem to be exchanging blows without moving around too much.
zero logic sagte:
Soooooo, this form was supposed to maximize their potential, ki control, bla bla bla and now is fading away???? Ok...
How different is it from SSJ3 then? Isn't that time limited as well?
Zzzz
How different is it from SSJ3 then? Isn't that time limited as well?
Zzzz
They are damaged and tired
Kasei sagte:
Today was saying: newhinhin was saying: How does it make sense, position wise?
They teleported while aiming each other, right?
V = Vegeta, G = Goku, LE = Left Energy Ball, RE = Right Energy Ball
— ---V
LE--------RE
— ---G
Let's assume they both teleported to the Right Energy Ball, what the f were Vegeta aiming at? In the first picture, they both aiming at each other at the perfect angle, so if we base on my earlier assumption, If Vegeta didn't know where Goku would teleport to, Vegeta would punch the ball towards the audience, but if he knew Goku would teleport at the same direction as he would send the energy ball to, then he wouldn't make the mistake.
LE-----V-RE-G
In your scenario, Vegeta would have moved to where RE was heading to punch it back to Goku. What I'm wondering is why Goku would bother to push the energy ball farther at all.
I don't think Goku was kicking it farther. He was trying to kick on a curve. Perhaps to where Vegeta was a moment ago. You do have a more range of control of a kick than a punch. You could easily turn the ball if kicked correctly.
They teleported while aiming each other, right?
V = Vegeta, G = Goku, LE = Left Energy Ball, RE = Right Energy Ball
— ---V
LE--------RE
— ---G
Let's assume they both teleported to the Right Energy Ball, what the f were Vegeta aiming at? In the first picture, they both aiming at each other at the perfect angle, so if we base on my earlier assumption, If Vegeta didn't know where Goku would teleport to, Vegeta would punch the ball towards the audience, but if he knew Goku would teleport at the same direction as he would send the energy ball to, then he wouldn't make the mistake.
LE-----V-RE-G
In your scenario, Vegeta would have moved to where RE was heading to punch it back to Goku. What I'm wondering is why Goku would bother to push the energy ball farther at all.
I don't think Goku was kicking it farther. He was trying to kick on a curve. Perhaps to where Vegeta was a moment ago. You do have a more range of control of a kick than a punch. You could easily turn the ball if kicked correctly.
I think you're right. V was trying to punch it back to G. G was trying to kick it in another direction, to where V was initially.
newhinhin sagte:
How does it make sense, position wise?
They teleported while aiming each other, right?
V = Vegeta, G = Goku, LE = Left Energy Ball, RE = Right Energy Ball
— ---V
LE--------RE
— ---G
Let's assume they both teleported to the Right Energy Ball, what the f were Vegeta aiming at? In the first picture, they both aiming at each other at the perfect angle, so if we base on my earlier assumption, If Vegeta didn't know where Goku would teleport to, Vegeta would punch the ball towards the audience, but if he knew Goku would teleport at the same direction as he would send the energy ball to, then he wouldn't make the mistake.
LE-----V-RE-G
They teleported while aiming each other, right?
V = Vegeta, G = Goku, LE = Left Energy Ball, RE = Right Energy Ball
— ---V
LE--------RE
— ---G
Let's assume they both teleported to the Right Energy Ball, what the f were Vegeta aiming at? In the first picture, they both aiming at each other at the perfect angle, so if we base on my earlier assumption, If Vegeta didn't know where Goku would teleport to, Vegeta would punch the ball towards the audience, but if he knew Goku would teleport at the same direction as he would send the energy ball to, then he wouldn't make the mistake.
LE-----V-RE-G
In your scenario, Vegeta would have moved to where RE was heading to punch it back to Goku. What I'm wondering is why Goku would bother to push the energy ball farther at all. 1 Antworten
J.I.L sagte:
This is actually interesting. You know... we could have had this last chapter and replace that 4th wall break re-wind fight.
DBM sometimes be putting too much filler.
DBM sometimes be putting too much filler.
That would have been a better idea
I almost forgot what was happening after that long break...
Anyway, why do the authors insist on writing the bird people as careless and easily jumping to conclusions? Like the time they almost didn't send Broly back to his universe. Why so quick to want to end the match when they're the ones who set the 30-second rule and waited the full 30 seconds before? It's confusing and annoying to see.
DB Multiverse page 2236
Anyway, why do the authors insist on writing the bird people as careless and easily jumping to conclusions? Like the time they almost didn't send Broly back to his universe. Why so quick to want to end the match when they're the ones who set the 30-second rule and waited the full 30 seconds before? It's confusing and annoying to see.
So Krillin had his foot on the arena before the dino landed outside the ring?
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DB Multiverse page 2214
Whis: ...... It's actually called meme power, Goku. Kind of like Luffy's Gear 5 toon force
Goku: What?
DB Blancoverse page 32
Goku: What?
TrustMe sagte:
I am really not a fan of the name Gohan "blanco" lol. Sounds very cringy to me. Beast is also, IMO, a crapy name.
But so is Orange Piccolo, Golden/Black Frieza and all other unnecessary names. Just call it Piccolo's transcended form, Super Frieza, Unleashed Gohan and be done with it. Describe the form, rather than name it.
This is not a critique to the author of this comic specifically, but more so critique on Super. Like wtf is "ultra ego", do 5 year olds come up with these absurd names?.. Why the fuck would they not just name it "Ultra Destruction"?.. Naaaah, let's make it about ego lol
But still, "Blanco" is the cringiest name of all. So Gohan suddenly started speaking Spanish?.. When in DB world never did we have any indications of multiple languages being used on Earth. Gohan White, while still bad, is a much less cringy name.
Rant aside - the art in this comic is great and I am really interested to see where the story goes. I am loving everything about it so far, besides the Blanco and that the intro was a bit slow and seemed like a rehash of Cell Max fight. But everything else - amazing.
Thank you for sharing this comic with us!
EDIT: To show how stupid naming of the forms has gotten in Super - if Super's naming conventions were used back in Z, SSJ would be "Yellow Goku", SSJ2 would be "Spiky Yellow Goku" and SSJ3 would be "Long Yellow Goku". Final Form Frieza would be "White-Blue Frieza", Perfect Cell would be "Handsome Cell".
Forms should be named after their origin. Super Saiyan was not "Goku with yellow hair". It was a legend, of a legendary saiyan capable of such feats no other saiyan can dream off. And we got exactly that.
SSJ2 told us, that it is an improved version of SSJ, and same goes for SSJ3. It made sense, and probably even people who've never heard of DB could tell you what form is the strongest by their names alone.
Now? it seems more like Sailor Moon forms than DBZ forms, a fucking rainbow or just random descriptive words, like "Saiyan Berserker" which just describes how you'd act in that form. LSSJ was a legend, it made it seem like the form had history, but now it is just "well it looks like he is X, so the form is [Name] X"
But so is Orange Piccolo, Golden/Black Frieza and all other unnecessary names. Just call it Piccolo's transcended form, Super Frieza, Unleashed Gohan and be done with it. Describe the form, rather than name it.
This is not a critique to the author of this comic specifically, but more so critique on Super. Like wtf is "ultra ego", do 5 year olds come up with these absurd names?.. Why the fuck would they not just name it "Ultra Destruction"?.. Naaaah, let's make it about ego lol
But still, "Blanco" is the cringiest name of all. So Gohan suddenly started speaking Spanish?.. When in DB world never did we have any indications of multiple languages being used on Earth. Gohan White, while still bad, is a much less cringy name.
Rant aside - the art in this comic is great and I am really interested to see where the story goes. I am loving everything about it so far, besides the Blanco and that the intro was a bit slow and seemed like a rehash of Cell Max fight. But everything else - amazing.
Thank you for sharing this comic with us!
EDIT: To show how stupid naming of the forms has gotten in Super - if Super's naming conventions were used back in Z, SSJ would be "Yellow Goku", SSJ2 would be "Spiky Yellow Goku" and SSJ3 would be "Long Yellow Goku". Final Form Frieza would be "White-Blue Frieza", Perfect Cell would be "Handsome Cell".
Forms should be named after their origin. Super Saiyan was not "Goku with yellow hair". It was a legend, of a legendary saiyan capable of such feats no other saiyan can dream off. And we got exactly that.
SSJ2 told us, that it is an improved version of SSJ, and same goes for SSJ3. It made sense, and probably even people who've never heard of DB could tell you what form is the strongest by their names alone.
Now? it seems more like Sailor Moon forms than DBZ forms, a fucking rainbow or just random descriptive words, like "Saiyan Berserker" which just describes how you'd act in that form. LSSJ was a legend, it made it seem like the form had history, but now it is just "well it looks like he is X, so the form is [Name] X"
It really goes to show how much "form inflation" there has been. It's ridiculous. They should have stopped at SSG, although even that was a stretch. If you needed 6 Saiyans to become one, there should have been plenty back on Planet Vegeta.
But gacha games are too profitable to stop making fanfic-level forms. 1 Antworten
Dislpay name sagte:
I know this is the third time i said this but Ambroise is truly incredible, The fact that you understand when not to have overly detailed drawings for comedic effect shows that you aren't just a very skilled artist but a mastered artist. I hope we get to see from you more after this special ^_^
Isn't the art detail on this page similar to the others? 1 Antworten
Rimuru_Tempest sagte:
Those last two are moods.
Shadow-Ragna sagte:
Rimuru_Tempest was saying: Those last two are moods.
I agree so much.
I agree so much.
It's a mood to commit tax fraud?
Why exactly is that hypocritical from Vegeta?
He got mad about Gohan/Nasu killing Raditz then killed Nappa himself 1 Antworten