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ShadyDoorags 6 August 2024
Salagir was saying:
DBM doesn't need to have a point. We do things for free and we do what we want.
Many of you, especially Wukong, obviously get very angry when reading every page of DBM. You should stop reading DBM, making yourself angry isn't good for you.

If anything's made me angry, it's this response.

You have this really nasty habit of attacking your audience. You did it with the Kakarotto misunderstanding in chapter 50. You did it with the Bra hate. And you're doing it now.

Making mistakes in your story is tolerable, as is disagreeing with your audience on whether they're actually mistakes, but your attitude towards the people who want to see you improve, isn't.

"My work has no point and I'm going to do whatever I want regardless of quality, which I'm allowed to do because my work is free" is an awful stance for any creator to take. If you're not going to care about the quality of your content, then why should your audience even engage with it? Why should there be any attempt at quality in art or story if it's all pointless? Why even allow negative comments at all? Negative comments are meant to help improve. If there's no point to all this, you might as well delete every negative comment since they are all made in vain.

Been reading DBM for 15+ years and was really hoping to see the end of something I've put stock into since my teens, but if you're not going to care about your creation, then I don't see any point in me doing it. Plus I have a personal rule. If the creator of something doesn't want you engaging with their content because it's supposedly not for you, then don't. 2 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 5 August 2024
Croy The Salty was saying:
I'm not arguing for no criticism but it just when almost every page is just filled with "This story is lame", "The art is ugly",and "What the point of this story". Its becomes the artist and writer want to tell there story but the commentators wanted a story be made for them. I understand the sentiment but it feels like bullying. I want the story to be like the art style and written the way I believe it should be but than what's the point. It fun to see what they create and continue to create new things to see what comes from it.

"This story is lame", "The art is ugly", and "What's the point of this story" are all criticisms of the comic. The point of people asking for the art/story to be the way they want is that said people believe those changes will improve the work, aka they are criticizing it. If you have a problem with this, you have a problem with criticism in general. It would be different if you were advocating that the suggested changes wouldn't improve the comic, but you aren't. You're arguing people should accept the original vision without complaint, which is telling them not to criticize it. 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 5 August 2024
Can't have consequences now, can we?

This whole chapter is genuinely upsetting. It's a huge waste of time with really bad pacing. It's ironic that this one chapter of a literal fanfic feels more like a fanfic.

Everything happening is all probably just a vision, but even so, it makes the Elder Kai look pretty awful. He's screwing over Raditz because his stupid plan was stupid.

I do appreciate the artstyle just for the sake of variety even if it is uncanny at times, though obviously I still prefer Asura's stuff.

Croy The Salty was saying:
Over the 8 years I been reading this comic I never gotten so tired of the people of this comment section as I do today. You people are the most entitled and disrespectful bunch on a FREE FAN MADE COMIC. None of you have to keep reading but my god do you guys love talking trash about the writting and the artist of this team who are doing this for free. I appreciate Salagir and his team for what they have made and to keep making but for most you guys should just leave you're souring the mood and community.

People are still saying "free means you can't criticize" huh? As someone who makes free stuff, I must disagree. 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 22 Juli 2024
Will the machine even recognize Kakaditz? He's a completely different person now.
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ShadyDoorags 19 Juli 2024
Samirang was saying:
I still think it is. I don't think they would go through this many pages if it wasnt and also the dragonballs could have undone any lasting damage like Vegito says. I think they're trying to suprise us by showing big developments in a flashback chapter where you wouldn't expect such a thing... But maybe I'm wrong lol idk

There are two possibilities here.

Either all of this is real, which means the pacing is crap because the story skipped over us seeing the result of Vegetto's injury which was alluded to being a significant event.

Or this is all an illusion/dream/projection, in which case the pacing is still crap because so many pages were spent on something that ultimately doesn't matter.

Considering the Gast vs Bra fight, I'm banking on the latter.
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ShadyDoorags 12 Juli 2024
Monster was saying:
The last time Elder Kai saw Vegeta, it was before his match with Raichi. This confirms this is his imagination because he is remembering how Vegeta was and not how he is.


I'm convinced this moment is all in the Elder Kai's mind, but what you've said isn't proof.

Elder Kai said Raditz wouldn't be able to defeat Vegeta specifically because Vegeta just achieved a new transformation, which he got when fighting Raichi. 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 7 Juli 2024
Permanent fusion with a psychopath. What could possibly go wrong? 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 6 Juli 2024
We don't know if Raditz is actually too weak for ssj3 Vegeta, Old Kai could be lying just to further manipulate Raditz.
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ShadyDoorags 3 Juli 2024
Your nickel was saying:
Also that distortion on the last page apparently hasn't been explained


I took it as showing the passage of time so the Elder Kai finishing up on this page wouldn't seem to come out of nowhere. 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 1 Juli 2024
Mmm... catharsis...
Chibi Son Bra did her best! page 159
ShadyDoorags 28 Juni 2024
If kawaii always wins, then how the crap did Nappy lose!?! 1 Replie(s)
Chibi Son Bra did her best! page 158
ShadyDoorags 27 Juni 2024
Should've just went to the u20 apartment since it was never used. Also, do none of these doors have locks?
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ShadyDoorags 21 Juni 2024
Real heel-turn there. Gohan's change of attitude feels extremely rushed. Also, how did Trunks learn to fly? It can't be instinct since Goku, Gohan and Goten all had to learn.

SoyBear was saying:
I feel like this comics done a great job of breaking down the age old issue of Gohan having so much potential yet never being able to beat the Androids in this timeline, and playing on the importance of the master and pupil relationship.

What good is all of that raw potential if he doesn't know how to hone it?
In a way Goku and Vegeta's mental aptitude and fighting genius are more useful than Gohan's raw potential.


Disagree. Original Z answered the question fine. Vegeta, Trunks and Goku all got powerful quickly in the future timeline because they trained with the express intent of getting another transformation, ones Gohan didn't know about. That version of Gohan trained with Goku who understood his potential, in an environment that accelerated his training. This Gohan was alone, had no proper environment to train in and only trained to get stronger in mundane ways. Unless he abused zenkai, which would be difficult to do with limited senzus and no one around his strength to train with, it would naturally take a long time for him to catch up to the cyborgs.
This story, in trying to answer that question, created a bunch more inconsistencies.
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ShadyDoorags 16 Juni 2024
Don't think Enma has to debate about Roshi anymore, dude definitely belongs in heaven.
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ShadyDoorags 12 Juni 2024
The mass slaughter of humans is one thing, but nobody calls Roshi 'grandpa' and gets away with it!
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ShadyDoorags 10 Juni 2024
Kamehameha wave?
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ShadyDoorags 8 Juni 2024
Is there a reason Gohan gave Bulma his hood? 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 1 Juni 2024
I got whiplash from how fast this chapter got interesting.
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ShadyDoorags 30 Maj 2024
This is... actually pretty interesting. Roshi obviously can't beat them physically, but targeting 17's ego is a pretty good strat even if it's just being used for a distraction. 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 28 Maj 2024
Ha! She doesn't know how to use the three sea shells!
Chibi Son Bra did her best! page 154
ShadyDoorags 27 Maj 2024
"My darling..."

Not the best choice of diction; can't picture Bulma saying that. 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 23 Maj 2024
I knew it!
Chibi Son Bra did her best! page 153
ShadyDoorags 20 Maj 2024
WukongTheMighty was saying:
Jesus Christ.
This is just getting silly at this point.


I have to agree.

This comic is trying its hardest to cover plot holes, but it really didn't need to. These are plot holes the original DBZ created, not plot holes from Multiverse. Now, by trying to fix DBZ's plot holes, they've created their own which we can actually criticize the comic for.
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ShadyDoorags 15 Maj 2024
Wait, I thought they were already speaking to her via portal-window, or whatever, is she physically in front of them? Because if so, I find it perplexing that she can't bring back Goku.
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ShadyDoorags 8 Maj 2024
I feel like this is an awful explanation and a completely unnecessary shot at Piccolo, who was Gohan's first trainer. Gohan not getting strong enough made sense fine, it doesn't need further explaining. 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 7 Maj 2024
Still trying to figure out why Feyn is so popular.
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ShadyDoorags 5 Maj 2024
Why are so many people saying it doesn't make sense that Gohan didn't get strong enough here? Gohan doesn't know super saiyan can go further, so he's only training his base which isn't doing much good since he's not even near Vegeta's level of strength. He also doesn't have the time chamber, which would enhance his training (though he could still go to Bulma and ask her to make a gravity room). Not to mention, u18 Gohan was a lot stronger than this version as he spent years training specifically for the cyborgs with Goku and Piccolo. U18 Goku, U18 Vegeta and Future Trunks spent a year specifically trying to find a level beyond super saiyan and/or push super saiyan to its max because they had an gut feeling they could and they did it in an extremely harsh environment with training partners that could push them. That's why they got so strong so quickly. Gohan has none of these factors and more than likely neglected his training up until this point. 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 4 Maj 2024
mAc Chaos was saying:
Without someone like Goku to train him, I don't think Gohan would have gotten much out of the time chamber. I mean he basically got what, 17 years to train, in the future timeline. If 17 years was not enough, then 1 or 2 years would not do much. The real question is why Goku just never tried to do anything in the afterlife...


I ultimately agree with your conclusion, but I do want to note that the time chamber has a harsh environment making it an ideal training location, especially for saiyans. Gohan would get more progress a year in the time chamber than a year out, but yeah, I doubt said progress would make a big enough difference when he couldn't make the best of his time outside of it.

The reason u18 saiyans made such good progress with the time chamber is because they weren't just trying to get stronger. They were trying to find a new transformation beyond ssj1 and they found four of them.
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ShadyDoorags 27 April 2024
DestroyerOfVegetards was saying:
If only Future Piccolo / Kami remembered that the hyperbolic time chamber existed and let the future Z fighters use it to train, they would have been able to destroy the future Androids. They wouldn't even need the power of Future Goku who died of heart disease. Just Vegeta, Gohan, and Piccolo would be enough (Trunks was still a baby at this point).


Not necessarily. These Z fighters aren't as strong as the ones in u18 who knew the cyborgs were coming and thus trained for them for three years. It takes Future Gohan some 13 years before he even becomes a threat to the cyborgs. Plus, the u18 saiyans went into the chamber specifically to find levels past super saiyan. This universe's saiyans wouldn't know those transformations exist. 2 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 25 April 2024
ZenBuu was saying:
Salagir literally said a few comments above, that it's Krillin who is narrating this page. I mean, that should be actually pretty obvious from the last panel imo.


Sorry for not reading the comments before commenting myself. I'll make sure to never do such a heinous, unthinkable thing ever again. Krillin was my first guess, but I threw it out when I noticed he had a hole in his chest, so I thought maybe he was dead and someone else was narrating. 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 25 April 2024
Someone who could only watch and they don't know if Gohan is alive... Bulma? 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 24 April 2024
He? That's high school girl Nappy.
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ShadyDoorags 19 April 2024
"A Namekian can still heal you."

Yamcha, don't pretend like you knew that when you attacked him. A human would be dead because that heart is gone. Also, a dragon can probably bring I'K'L back to life; killing him isn't that big of a deal.
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ShadyDoorags 15 April 2024
Yamcha giving a massive speech about how even the most evil can change only to kill the not evil, just extreme in his ideals I'K'L' who is vastly weaker than him feels a bit hypocritical. Was there a reason he didn't just knock I'K'L' out or cripple him? 4 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 11 April 2024
"I can destroy the tech and strand us here!"

Pretty sure they have more. It's been established that the Varga don't keep all their assets in one place, or even one universe. Also they have dragonballs which can give them any material they need to build more.
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ShadyDoorags 7 April 2024
Yamcha is wrong. Obviously I'K'L' shouldn't kill everyone, but there is always risk with power. The logic I'K'L' was using wasn't that everyone here was evil, but that they were so powerful, it was too great of a risk to let them live especially since multiverse-travel technology exists now. 2 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 28 Marts 2024
Is that a Naruto reference?

Didn't think I'd appreciate Yamcha getting some recognition, but thinking about it, he has been a bit of a joke for far too long considering he's been around even longer than Krillin.
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ShadyDoorags 23 Marts 2024
Ah, so it's all an act then.
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ShadyDoorags 21 Marts 2024
Geeze, these two are just pure anarchist.
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ShadyDoorags 16 Marts 2024
What pushes the joke further is that because chibi-Bra was born in a vat, she could actually have a larva state.
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ShadyDoorags 8 Marts 2024
"Do you really believe that will be satisfying?"

Yamcha, they have a program in their head constantly nagging at them to kill Goku. Doesn't really matter if it feels satisfying.
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ShadyDoorags 7 Marts 2024
I was told Phipsil WILL die to for Son Bra.
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ShadyDoorags 1 Marts 2024
This probably explains the Yamcha vision, but I'K'L' was watching the tournament, he should be very much aware that there are non-living beings participating in it. Why would he cast a spell that doesn't work on them? 2 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 29 Februar 2024
Why did Vegeto... break? He's flesh and blood. His bones would break, sure, but his skin and muscles would rip. Is this the jelly clone technique?

Also, if this guy is gonna be used to push Vegeto's rage, I would've preferred him being a gag character.
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ShadyDoorags 25 Februar 2024
Buddy, you are REALLY late. A lot of "the most powerful beings in the universe" got sent home already.
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ShadyDoorags 22 Februar 2024
I mean, he looks shiny, but I'm sensing a Mary Sue-esque subversion of expectations gag coming.
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ShadyDoorags 16 Februar 2024
If you can talk, then why the crap were you crying?
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ShadyDoorags 13 Februar 2024
I will never not root for Pan when she's fighting Bra.
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ShadyDoorags 3 Februar 2024
Man will I be glad when this special behind us. Art was fantastic, but Bojack is just not a fun character unless he's getting his comeuppance. Good or bad, it's not fun to watch a character succeed when they don't deserve it, especially when they do everything in their power to earn failure. That's not a slight to the storytelling of DBM, they inherited Bojack's personality from DBZ, but I'd be ecstatic if we got no more specials featuring him and his crew, especially since we already know how their story ends. 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 25 Januar 2024
These people just love announcing their ambushes, don't they? That's probably why the energy bonds worked, because no one announced they were doing it.
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ShadyDoorags 15 Januar 2024
Um... actually, Phipsil is a female, so she wouldn't lift her leg to pee. 3 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 12 Januar 2024
"Sokka, sneak attacks don't work if you yell it out loud."
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ShadyDoorags 26 December 2023
Teleported_Bread was saying:
You hardly said anything? How does that make this 'boring'? How is Bojack boring? Just try and enjoy it, appreciate that there's depth being added to the main story and its characters. I'm genuinely curious, be honest, wouldn't you be asking for more content like this if DBM didn't make these specials?


My statement was meant to be subjective. I personally find this boring because I'm no longer interested in these characters. I didn't say much because I didn't think my personal view required an in depth explanation.

I had no problem learning more about Bojack previously, but now that we know the conclusion to his story, my interest has waned partially because he was never really interesting to begin with. 2 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 26 December 2023
ZenBuu was saying:
You realize that this special in particular doesn't focus only on U6? This story happened in most other universes too.

Yes. That doesn't dismiss anything I said. 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 25 December 2023
This is quite boring purely because I'm not at all curious about Bojack's story anymore, nor his gang. He's a boring villain with a boring personality. Here's hoping Salagir removes his universe from future potential specials. 2 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 21 December 2023
It amuses me how invested I am in this story.
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ShadyDoorags 21 December 2023
If the goal was to get me to hate Bojack more, you succeeded. A guy whose this willing to kill on a whim is doomed to fall and deserves to have it happen.
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ShadyDoorags 9 December 2023
A Bojack chapter without extremely stylized art?
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ShadyDoorags 1 December 2023
Meng_Shu was saying:
Here is something that has been bugging me for a long time.

Were the organizers aiming to strictly get 64 participants for the tournament?

Like if more people from U19 wanted to compete, would the organizers have to cut them off since they were already maxed out?


The tournament had 20 balconies ready, so it's more likely that they were trying to find 20 (or rather 19) unique universes with strong combatants who were willing to participate. 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 29 November 2023
"With fighters who have integrity"
Very poor choice of words, Gast and XXI are obedient in regards to tournament rules, but they do not fight with integrity. Gast only uses traditional fighting when it's convenient; both will whip out a fight-ending spell if it means winning. Also, neither have had a reason to act out up until now. They're both in the semi-finals, very close to receiving their wish. 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 26 November 2023
"What should we call this form?"

It's mystic. It's a naturally acquired mystic instead of a magically acquired one. The characters have already said this, I don't understand the confusion. Why not just call it Mystic Super Saiyan? Is it because mystic implies magic? Because that's the only reason I could think to not use that label. 2 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 25 November 2023
I understand the healing, but I didn't realize that Namekians clean you up as well. Meh, it's magic, so whatever. 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 23 November 2023
Any particular reason for the shadow overlay? 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 21 November 2023
Where on Earth did this Vegeto come from? The dude has been going on and on about wanting a proper challenge and suddenly he's salty that his two halves are capable of producing said challenge? I was expecting him to secretly make a deal with for U18 to make Gogeta and fight him. From what we've seen thus far, he has three main triggers, Bra being a senseless murderer, people looking down on him, and not being able to get a proper challenge. He should be ecstatic that others are potentially catching up to him.

Also, the logic as to why they thought of a new form should not be this mysterious to him. There's no one in his universe to test his strength on, this has been established multiple times.

jak was saying:
It's stupid as hell to blame Bra's behavior on Super Saiyan, but we all know she's the author's favorite so it's not surprising.


Agreed. I said this years ago, but Bra's problem was never super saiyan, it was always that she, the girl herself, can't control her anger. U16 stupidly tried to teach her to contain it when they should've been teaching her healthy ways to release it. 2 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 18 November 2023
Universe 18 is so freaking wholesome.
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ShadyDoorags 12 November 2023
Vegeta getting something Vegeto and Bra could never obtain, a satisfying defeat.
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ShadyDoorags 12 November 2023
Uzurper was saying:
I wonder if we're going to see an ending similar to Rocky 2, where Rocky punched his rival Creed before both fell to the ground and struggled to get up before the timer ran out. I think that's where the end of the fight is headed, except there is no time limit.


You mean exactly what happened during Goku vs Uub?
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ShadyDoorags 11 November 2023
We just saw Vegeta do that exact same punch several times to Goku. Is Goku doing it once really supposed to be impressive?
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ShadyDoorags 6 November 2023
Nephrahim was saying:
Actually, this is exactly how it works IRL. Skulls are famously much harder than the bones in your hands, and punching someone's head with your bare nuckles is a good way to break your hand. People think Boxing gloves are for protecting people's bodies, but they actually allow you to punch even harder than you can with bare nuckles, because your fist is protected.


That doesn't address the issue. If Goku was already planning on punching Vegeta in the head, then his hand was braced for it. Punching anything hard enough is going to hurt your hand and I'm sure Vegeta lunging forward is going to do some damage, but I would expect Vegeta's head to be in worse condition than Goku's hand.
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ShadyDoorags 6 November 2023
I'm not a fighter... but how does one break their hand punching someone's head that they were planning on punching anyway? Would that not do more damage to the head? 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 3 November 2023
Meng_Shu was saying:
This might be it! Goku might have the uppherhand now!


Remember how on the previous page, Vegeta had the upper hand? And how Goku had the upper hand before that? And how Vegeta had the upper hand before THAT? And how... 2 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 2 November 2023
I get so much catharsis from these.
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ShadyDoorags 26 Oktober 2023
And... we're back to this. I said it before and I'll say it again, it's not the length of the fight, it's when pages that don't reveal anything new are released that it feels like a slog.
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ShadyDoorags 24 Oktober 2023
Majunia was saying:
Am I the only one who finds Gohan enjoying seeing his daughter enjoying violence...odd? not good or bad, just "odd", I get the point that he is glad she is not scared about her grampa and her "uncle" beating each other to deatd (like in the special), but the smile feels, well, odd, Gohan is a pacifist.
Or maybe I'm just looking too deep into this.

Btw, am I allowed to post this, or will I get banned for voicing an opinion?


Gohan wasn't a pacifist in the original DBZ, he just wasn't raised to fight like the other Z-warriors so he was more rational about it than they were. That pacifist thing was something TFS added. And while Gohan has admitted in DBM to not like fighting, he still dresses up like a superhero on occasion to fight bad guys when it's completely unnecessary.

However, the pacifist thing is somewhat irrelevant because if you go back on page 579 of DBM, Gohan says that while he doesn't like fighting, he understands that Pan has a similar relationship with fighting that Goku and Vegeta have and that if she's going down that path, he wants her to be prepared for it. It'd be like a normal person having no interest in guns, but being proud of their kid for being good at shooting. 3 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 22 Oktober 2023
Well would you look at that, actual good character development. DBM managed to make me feel appropriate emotions; it's been a hot minutes since that's happened.
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ShadyDoorags 21 Oktober 2023
This is gonna make me sound incredibly ungrateful, but U16 Bra seems to have lost her entire personality, which makes her very boring. It's absolutely true that her attitude problem was unpleasant before, but completely erasing her wasn't the way to go.
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ShadyDoorags 19 Oktober 2023
Shocked Vegeta had any energy left to do that move. I mean, he's flying, so he must have SOME energy, but up until now, it could've been the thrust from the Final Flash that was keeping him up there.
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ShadyDoorags 12 Oktober 2023
Paladin was saying:
Sure, cool idea, but thats like using a pin to redirect a waterfall. Vegeta`s beam shouldnt stop, it should hit Goku, except in the pinpoint area.


While that's probably what physics dictates should happen, Dragon Ball has treated beams and other energy attacks like this. For example, Gohan was able to push back Cell's tamtrum Kamehameha in its entirety with a smaller but stronger version. My head canon is that all ki attacks have a thin outer shell that makes them behave like solids. 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 11 Oktober 2023
"No, it's not like the Kamehameha! The Kamehameha doesn't drill things!"
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ShadyDoorags 7 Oktober 2023
SeanPaul2389 was saying:
On the Contrary Goku did a very similar feat during the Saiyan arc where Nappa surprised him with a mouth beam and despite it happening pretty much point blank Goku was able to fire off a lightning-fast Kamehameha and overpower it. Vegeta was so impressed (and or surprised) by the speed of the move, of Goku's reaction time that he decides that was the time for him to step in.


Goku was faster than Nappa there and he had his guard up. Here, Goku just got caught off guard and these two are supposed to be on relatively equal fighting terms (if anything, Vegeta would be faster since we were shown he was better than Goku in the Pan special). Though I will say, after reminding me of that scene, this does feel a lot more believable. 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 7 Oktober 2023
As awesome as a classic beam struggle between these two is, Goku had absolutely no time to react to that. Unless he shot a body blast (which he didn't, that's clearly a Kamehameha wave) there's no way he could've feasibly accomplished that. 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 5 Oktober 2023
Vegeta doing a Final Flash ends it one way or another. That is a do or die move since we know they're both drained of ki at this point.
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ShadyDoorags 1 Oktober 2023
newhinhin was saying:
How did the stone not break to atoms when Vegeta kicked it? Bad writing...


The same reason it didn't shatter when it hit Goku's face. Dragon Ball established in canon that mundane items can survive impact with and even effect powerful warriors under certain conditions, usually when their guard is down. Ki manipulation is generally the accepted reasoning.
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ShadyDoorags 28 September 2023
Kakata was saying:
I'm not trying to be rude but I agree completely with this comment, while the art is amazing, the fight is going for too long and the story has barely moved since March or something, again, I'm not trying to be rude, I've been visiting this website for over a decade and I love what you guys are doing but I think it's time for the story to move on.

10/10 art though.

ZenBuu was saying:
And I completely disagree with this. There is no "too long" in this fight imo. Afterall it's freaking Goku vs Vegeta. And I'm sure you would agree with me, if you wouldn't read it page after page when it's released, but instead binge reading the whole fight later, after it's done. Imagine a new reader who can read it all at once. It takes like 10-15 minutes to read the whole fight, so I fail to see how this fight is going on for too long tbh. The release rhythm of DBM is nothing new, something you should know when reading DBM for a decade. Also I would've actually been pretty mad, if it just ended like that in the last chapter.

And (also not trying to be rude) I'm glad that Salagir doesn't listen to comments like this. He certainly won't change anything in his story because of some backlash in the comment section. Not to mention that this chapter was already worked on when we had the last main chapter, so changes (if they would happen) wouldn't even be taken into account at all. I even saw people under the impression that something on the next page got changed, due to some comments on the previous page. That wouldn't even be possible.

I definitely don't want to have a rushed fight (or rushed story to the end, good things take a while) especially not in this case, considering this might be the last real all out fight we get in the tournament. I was hyped for many years that this fight finally happens and I'm personally absolutely satisfied with the result.

ssjlucario was saying:
100% agreed. I think they are just complaining for the sake of complaining.

Gotta love how I specifically said "I have no problem with the fight lasting this long" yet everyone completely ignores that I said that.

Regardless of what Kakata said, my complaint was not that the fight was lasting too long. It was that we're being shown pages that don't give us any new information. 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 28 September 2023
I have no problem with the fight lasting this long, however, we've stopped being shown crucial details. I didn't learn anything new on this page that the last two pages didn't already show me. The art, of course, is incredible, but the story has stopped and it's really noticeable given DBM's pacing. 2 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 20 September 2023
zero logic was saying:
Soooooo, this form was supposed to maximize their potential, ki control, bla bla bla and now is fading away???? Ok...

How different is it from SSJ3 then? Isn't that time limited as well?

Zzzz


We'll have to wait and see, but I'm pretty sure the implication here is that Vegeta and Goku are extremely tired and thus moving at a slow enough pace that Pan can keep up, not that the form is time sensitive and thus is fading away.
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ShadyDoorags 12 September 2023
I know it's just a joke, but...

Bra is guilty of reckless endangerment. Gohan was already in the process of punching when she jumped in his way. Yes Gohan's punch caused the explosion, but Bra's act of jumping in front of him is what allowed his punch to make contact. 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 7 September 2023
The perspective on Vegeta does not look right.
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ShadyDoorags 6 September 2023
Kalenz was saying:
I'm still not quite sure how this "transformation" works exactly. Has Salagir explained it in a post or something?
Sjj works by increasing the chi-output. It bulks up the muscles and revitalises the body while putting a strain on it.
Sjj2 is essentially the same but literally on another level. It does to the sjj1 state what the sjj1 state does to the base form.
Page 2166 said some nonsense about sjj forms shortening the life expectancy which has nothing to do with anything stated in dragon ball except for arguably ssj3.
But when training against Cell Goku and Gohan managed to remove the strain from the sjj1 transformation. That's why they stayed sjj the whole time. It essentially became their "new base form".
So how does this new transformation work differently? How does this form increase their speed to such an extreme. Seems like quite the ass-pull.


Long story short, it's mystic, but done naturally instead of through magic

The explanation given in the last main chapter was that all forms of super saiyan leak energy which causes the yellow hair, destructive aura and electricity sparks in higher levels. The technique Goku and Vegeta are using is meant to contain that excess energy, making every level of super saiyan much stronger.
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ShadyDoorags 30 August 2023
That's incredibly touching that the Briefs refuse to give up on their dad. 1 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 26 August 2023
As the last 6 commentators have said, the breakdancing is the superior version. The choreography in this version is a little confusing without another panel.
Minicomic page 123
ShadyDoorags 24 August 2023
The last two chapters weren't bad, but they were frustrating. The main series seems to really be trudging along while these side stories get a ton of attention in comparison. Obviously that's because, no matter what, the main story is going to go slow and the side stories are just fillers that other artists help with, but if these side stories aren't interesting enough, a regular reader really feels the time passing.
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ShadyDoorags 21 August 2023
Also, Nam, there's a well over there in the corner.
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ShadyDoorags 19 August 2023
If Yamcha tells Krillin it was Gohan who defeated him, it messes up the whole lesson. In the original, Roshi became Jackie because he wanted Goku and Krillin to know there was always someone somewhere who was stronger than them, not just their master.
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ShadyDoorags 16 August 2023
Could this be it? Will we finally see a non-gag victory based solely off of skill?
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ShadyDoorags 8 August 2023
Seth from Street Fighter 4 still has the trophy in my book.
Chibi Son Bra did her best! page 111
ShadyDoorags 6 August 2023
Um... okay... but why? Yamcha just met Krillin, for what reason would he want his own master to lose? 3 Replie(s)
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ShadyDoorags 29 Juli 2023
Well, that happened.
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ShadyDoorags 27 Juli 2023
So this means Brice and Jacky entering were kinda pointless since neither got to face their own pupil. I guess Brice will get a chance to prevent Krillin from winning, even though that wasn't his plan.
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ShadyDoorags 18 Juli 2023
I understand people's gripe. This manga's been going on for over a decade and no where in the official chapters have we seen nudity, plus it feels very unnecessary since you can get the same implications across with underwear.

However, you can't really say this goes against Dragonball. That series absolutely showed nudity and this tournament is supposed to take place during the time where the nudity was at it's most extreme back then. It's a genuine callback. With all the gore Multiverse has, it's pretty much already gained an R rating, so other than shocking viewers and making prudes feel uncomfortable, this scene isn't changing the course all that much. 1 Replie(s)
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