asdOE was saying: Wow! What kind of training did Goku do, to grow an whole extra joint for his thumb?
That's his index finger.

Nope.
The three young Namekians in the village were just young Dragon clan memebers.
The three at Guru’s do not exist, anime filler lol.
Nail was the one and only warrior clan member left.

Vash was saying: Average Dragon Clan Namekians are stronger than average Saiyans warriors.
Average Warrior clan Namekians are Ginyu force level.

Of course, they do well against goons

Pretty sure Nail was the only one that was up to that level.

Just cripple him already.

So I guess Dende downgraded and got rid of multires.

Or maybe it's because Dende is old so it limits the wishes?

And, for Mafuba, no, it's not Piccolo don't have time, it's because the Mafuba wouldn't work.

Dude, you've been wasting time for a good 20 pages.

Again...Mafuba won't work on Bracaa (according to Goten-kun, the author).

I have two kids and sometimes they do not listen no matter what, Trunks could just be at that age, also seconds could have passed between his crying and Gohan (maybe) jumping into the room. Bulma seems to be putting the fight in fight or flight.

Artiel was saying: People confused as to why Bulma isn't silencing Trunks are missing a key fact of this scene:

MANY people are crying and screaming around them. One baby crying in the city doesn't mean much to Android 18. She's not going to hear Trunks crying and go "OH THAT'S THE BABY GOHAN IS AFTER, I HAVE TO KILL THAT KID FIRST." She has no idea the kid is important because the character in the narrative has no meta-knowledge. She's also watching the race... so she might pick out the situation, she might not. Her not immediately nuking that building because a kid is crying inside of it is NOT a glaring plothole.

That's ABSOLUTELY not what they think about when they expect a mother to comfort her child

Kururun was saying: Grash was saying: This kind of writing oozes depression and nihilism.

It's not even that, it's trying to establish some hard rules about the Dragon Ball universe, at the expanse of the characters.
Now you've got Baba being an asshole, Gohan acting emo (this scene is different from him giving up against Cell), Goku and friends explicitly not doing anything despite having ideas to solve everything, and the plothole still exists because they could have called the Nameks on the first day.

But hey, look at the bright side: the writers got to make a statement about how the afterlife works in Dragon Ball, according to them (even though it's not even internally consistent). I hope it was worth it!


SuperSaiyan4Vegetto was saying: I'm not going to be too hard on this comic since lets face it.....the plothole of why Goku didn't help Gohan is just that...a plot hole and some of them are just unresolvable, sadly. We know that if Goku did this it would mess up the timeline from what we know happened and that it's likely something that A. Toriyama forgot about until the Buu Saga.

Though I do wonder how long this chapter will be since I really don't know what else could be told in this story (Not that I'm complaining).


Maybe you could say that in the Androids attack they just lost the data where planet namek is and thus can't find it anymore, I accept that. Honestly though I feel like this is really the last I'd like to see of the "Future Timelines", they are a bit depressing.

Let's not forget that they don't know where the new planet Namek is guys. As even in the present timeline, they didn't find out until after Kakarot recovered from the virus, used IT to go to King Kai's planet, from there used the position of the planet to locate the planet, go there and bargain with the Namekians who agreed to help because it was Kakarot who they know as the guy who saved them from Freeza.

Tl;dr- King Kai and Kakarot play a huge role in even locating New Namek. And Kakarot himself played a huge role in even getting in contact with King Kai.

You are all wrong. No it's not a plot hole. The Dragon Balls can't revive those who die of natural causes.

Don't say "well it doesn't state that anywhere" it doesn't matter, that's appeal to authority.

Occam's Razor would heavily disagree with that poor argument. It's not a plot hole.

It's a very well and easily thought IMPLICATION.

In the future they didn't expect the Androids to come and as fast as they did.

Why couldn't they have gone to Namek? They didn't know where new Namek was.

Could Goku or King Kai have told them? No. Pay attention, Goku died of a Heart Disease (not virus that's misleading), the reason that's important is because it was implied that kind of Death is different.

Rather than doing what DBM is sloppily doing here, trying to explain it, there shouod be no explanation.

The point is that Goku died naturally and not from murder, that the Overseers of the Afterlife basically cannot allow him to interfere.

But you could also chalk it up to that "His body couldn't be restored cause of the disease"

Yes when it had a huge gaping hole it could be repaired. BUT he COULD also be revived and fixed from a gaping hole in his body.

Not a heart virus...or disease or whatever. See where we're going with this?

That means the most logical conclusion would be that Goku couldn't be revived nor have his body restored due to natural cause death.


Or at the very least revived. And here's the kicker, in the DBZ Manga, King Kai didn't interfere nor talk ANYWHERE near as much as he did in any of the anime(s)

Yes he did when Frieza was involved and early on with the Saiyans, but still not as much as the anime.

His involvement was minimum and acceptable. He couldn't actively do anything.

Since this has all been established it would only make sense no one was allowed nor able to give the coordinates of New Namek to Gohan and Roshi.

Thus A MUCH EASIER AND SIMPLER EXPLANATION than whatever this gag is.

Sorry but I have to be honest I really think this gag is poor as in comparison to what Salagir has done previously.

Good art by the artist, kudos to him but the writing ain't there this time.

He tried too hard to explain something that had the simplest of answers. Instead it became overcomplicated.

I actually think what Gohan said at the end here actually makes sense in terms of the silly thematic and atmosphere this comic has instilled in us.

It's a little absurd but it fits what this special is portraying. I seriously think everyone is overcomplicating it here.

Not everything in Storytelling is meant to be explained NOR should it be. It's not hard to grasp albeit I admit this one was a little confusing

To be fair the namekian db won't help. Gohan is most likely as powerful or moreso then Vegeta, and Goku can't come back. Best to tear that bandage off

WukongTheMighty was saying: Salagir was saying: WukongTheMighty was saying: Jesus Christ. This is just getting silly at this point.Kururun was saying: It's not even that, it's trying to establish some hard rules about the Dragon Ball universe, at the expanse of the characters. supersaiyan2kakarot was saying: Seems a little hypocritical for baba to say that, when she used Grandpa Gohan(who was dead) to fight for her in her tournament back in dragon ball.
Guys, you have to understand what i'm working with, here. "Future" timeline is a big plothole for a shonen manga. In the "present" timeline, a little training make half of the cast stronger by far than the cyborgs. I can't do much about that, except play the "hope" storyline.
Also indeed, the heroes could go to Namek, teleport from heaven to earth with or without permission (maybe?), spend 24h, teach them fusion, so many very simple ways to beat the cyborgs! Well, we're trying to cover this one at least.

Also, you can't compare Baba making little tournaments and implicating yourself in the destiny of a whole planet.

Osha was saying: Such weird reasoning in a multiverse where Bojack happened in a bunch of places, honestly.
For all I know, Bojack did less crimes than the Cyborgs.

Grash was saying: 1. Gohan did not give up after losing goku to raditz
2. Gohan did not give up after watching all the namekiens die
3. Gohan ALMOST gave up after losing goku to cell but still pulled through
4. Gohan DID NOT give up against super boo after all his friends and the whole earth got eaten
1. Goku was coming back from the DBs, it was obvious and stated.
2. Give up on what? The dragon balls were still here.
3. Dragon balls are there.
4. Easy access to dragon balls.
Anyway, you can't compare (and that's true for the 3 lasts points) being in the middle of a situation and being stranded alone for years on a world where genocide occurs daily.

Your nickel was saying: You'd think Yemma would make an exception here like in the Buu arc, since he didn't want to deal with billions of humans getting killed
I like this one. Cyborgs work "slowly" and i guess it doesn't change much in the universal number of deaths.

saber16 was saying: Like when King Kai specifically trained a dead Goku in order to save Earth from the Saiyans? Or when a dead Piccolo gave King Kai the idea to have him brought back to bring back Kami and give them more wishes? Or when King Kai trained Tien and the others so they would be stronger to protect Earth? Or all the times the heroes wished for those killed to be brought back to life?
As you state, all these have impact when said people are alive again.
If Dragon Balls were used in "future" timeline, or after Bojack special, heroes would have been permitted to crush cyborgs and Bojack with their new heaven-acquired powers.

ap2007 was saying: The boy has no reason to live , no disrespect to roshi, trunks ,bulma and whoever else ...
This Gohan isn't close yet to Bulma and Trunks at this point. This isn't stated here indeed, but he didn't see them in years. He is truly alone with an old man.
Chichi also is dead. Not said too, it seemed obvious to me, but maybe i was wrong.

The Mighty Hyena was saying: Some of these sidestories have no place other than to waste our collective time. I am sorry to the artist
No you're not. You're pooping on work done by non-paid amateurs on their free time given to you for free.
Guys, you should re-read yourself twice when you post, because nobody on this site deserve any of these angry comments.
So, please disagree and criticize with less contempt. You are also free to not read if what we do is so lame.

The Mighty Hyena was saying: a decent U9 special NOT SET UP IN DRAGON BALL ERA, or maybe a follow up to the EXCELLENT U13 or U7 Gast?
U9: sorry, we'll do them in order, so you'll have some more DB-era. Being drawn now.
U13: on a break, Ouv helps on other things, but not forgotten, far from it.
U7: very advanced, long, and with a first part ready to be released. When? Don't know yet.

So Gohan is super edgy and depressed because no dragon balls.
But Gohan should know there are Dragon Balls here though? Is he stupid or something? Does "Planet N-" mean something different in his head? Did he hit his head recently? He went to Namek. He knows it exists. He knows that Bulma could make a spaceship. What's the issue?
See, you're making more problems than you're solving.

>Bulma could make a spaceship
See, I agree Gohan SHOULD bring it up. It could be explained by Bulma not having any clue how to find New Namek. Goku had to find it in canon, after all.

Will they ever address why Goku doesn't talk to Gohan thru King Kai???

Jesus Christ.
This is just getting silly at this point.

TrunksTheMighty was saying: Such a stupid out of character thing for Goku to say.
Pretty sure he's trying to rail him up so he can show his true power, he knows how Gohan is and how he'll never fight at full power without rage.

You're Name was saying: Who the fuck is this guy?
Goku Black?

you watch a lot of SUPER, This is not new Goku is smart he explained to Gohan before how ssj grade 2 works perfectly.

Are they... are they stupid? Did Dr Gero not give them proper processing power? Lack of RAM? No Space Best Buy around to upgrade?

Because holy SHIT this is the dumbest course of action these two idiots could possibly take.

Darklordcomp was saying: Cold's just like "Yeah sure i'll wait for you to eat this"

Because that's what villains do.

Turles is really trying hard to talk his way out of this.

Darklordcomp was saying: "I can't be crowned cus my dads dead"

That isn't how that works
In the case of saiyans, yes.

I think i've seen this picture somewhere, but i can't remember where

There we go, glad to see that Pan is enjoying the fight this time around!

Why is every other trooper at this thing in uniform besides Top?

How do make water ? :D

I still don't really get the difference?

عمار was saying:
If that's how you see it then why didn't you forfeited from the beginning instead of trying to figure out a way to beat Gast? All that planning and imagination was for nothing!

Story telling is an abundant source of discussion. Wouldn't be a great story if we have no dialogue either.

Jubjub was saying: Bra's different techniques are all ki manipulation.

Yeah, but isn't ki just magic?


Jubjub was saying: There are ki-based moves and there are magical moves. Magic defies reality to an extent while ki-based moves rely entirely on manipulating your own stamina or life force.

Ah, science!

Kidding, kidding. I mean, I'm serious about ki being magic. Like auras and spirit bombs and making your hair grow 5 feet when you get angry.

Uub is definitely dead but at least the last thing he saw was his master almost defeated by his own hands!

is goku gonna fight back at all??

Bra looks all nervous while Gast has "Your in for it now bitch" written all over his face.

ZenBuu was saying: Arkren was saying: Darklordcomp was saying: God Nappa's gonna die again the moment Gohan finds him

oh, so bra being mind controlled is excusable even tough is clear that she had enough power to resist it, but nappa being mind controlled when he cant do anything to avoid it is somehow unforgibable...
The difference between Bra and Nappa is, that Nappa would still do all the things he did during the majin rebellion, when he is not mind controlled...Bra would certainly not. I think its funny how people even try to defend evil scumbags or lunatics like Nappa/Kakarott, just to make Bra look worse again while comparing.

Also, she did not have enough willpower to resist Babidi from the beginning. Or she would've broken free earlier. She was his true slave just like Dabura.

And i find it absolutely adorable how people always say that people are "defending" evil characters when someone points out how stupid it is to excuse Bra and nobody else. If Bras will is comparable to wet paper, then it's good enough reason to make it a priority to remove her power, one way or another.

Get ready for guys....https://w...418.html#h_read

Your nickel was saying: Vegito going SSJ2 to punch her seems a bit overkill

... bra destroyed a planet to defeat three opponents, two of which are already dead along with her half brother and all the people she set out to protect... all by her hand. Yet Vegito's actions were overkill?

Language Bra! :P
BTW, i can't wait, what is Gohan's plan. (Let us see what's going on with Goku and the others, please... :c )