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DestroyerOfVegetards
26 أيلول
Stevethebarbarian كان يقول:
Credit to Goku for effort, but I have to criticize him on his strategy. The kaioken is just a way more versatile and reliable technique than the genki dama, which needs several episodes to charge. If Tien was fighting alone, at least a high-level kaioken + kikoho might be able to win at the cost of his own life, but a genki dama is impossible to charge successfully in a 1 vs 1.
But Goku knew Tien wouldn't be fighting alone, because the Z team would be there when the Saiyans come. And 24 hours might not be enough to learn Kaioken, because it's more physically demanding and the body might need more time to rest and adapt.
DestroyerOfVegetards
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Zefarg كان يقول:
Says the one with more battle damage and also the one who's guaranteed to be alone
It's Vegeta. Let him talk. 1 رد (ردود)
DestroyerOfVegetards
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Thiln كان يقول:
Even if Zamasu is uncertain of their chances, there is the factor of Black's Kaioken continuously draining his stamina. It can't be something that's easy to maintain on top of his Rose form. Plus, doesn't Zamasu offer the abilities of a Kai? Those could be very useful here.
Black said earlier that Kaioken had no effect on his body because he's a special one. It seems so random that the writer made Black (a being from U10) learn Kaioken with King Kai, and made him this overpowered by removing the Kaioken's drawback. Even the long-hair SS Rose Black from SDBH seems more believable than THIS Black. So we shouldn't count on him being tired out by Kaioken. This is a "distorted" version of him after all. 1 رد (ردود)
DestroyerOfVegetards
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"That's Gohan's technique."
Like father like daughter.
DBMultiverse Colors page 407
Like father like daughter.
DestroyerOfVegetards
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ChrisOfChaos كان يقول:
Black's genocide never made much sense to me. So he went to each universe one by one and killed all Kais (assuming he killed all kais otherwise the survivors would have become Supreme Kai and a new Destroyer would have been elected), and none of the Destroyers or angels tried to stop him?
Sooner or later, the gods will intervene. But they will do so only after a few more timelines have been wiped out by Black, just a typical trope, the people in power don't care until shits start getting seriously out of control. Also, I assume it was due to lack of communication between the gods of the universes. Gods don't appear to get along well with gods from other universes.
Black would never achieve his goal anyway. There were mortals like Broly, Moro, Jiren, Toppo, and even Merus the intern angel who lived and acted like a mortal... these guys would eat Black for breakfast. 1 رد (ردود)
DestroyerOfVegetards
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FishNChips كان يقول:
Team will either finish Vegeta off and Frieza will come around, or Veggie will go back crying to Frieza and both of them will return.
Nasu'll have a tough time adjusting to Earth tho ;) but in the end, like with all villains, he'll adjust.
Nasu'll have a tough time adjusting to Earth tho ;) but in the end, like with all villains, he'll adjust.
Vegeta is as dead as Raditz and Nappa if he fails to take the Earth. Raditz failed once, that’s why Frieza sent all 4 of them this time. I doubt Frieza would tolerate another failure.
DestroyerOfVegetards
28 آب
son buuwoku كان يقول:
Ahhh the classic Final Flash from Vegeta. Looks awesome. Gast will tank it and regenerate for sure.
Wot? That's clearly a Galick Gun.
Females كان يقول:
If I didn't know any better, I would say Cell won this fight. Unless that blast wasn't strong enough to defeat Gast. If thats the case, I'm sure Cell will assume his victory while Gast regenerates fully and they have another round.
Maybe Gast survived because that's not a full power Kamehameha. It looks like Cell lost 2 of his 5 copies earlier, that means he lost 40% power. 1 رد (ردود)
DestroyerOfVegetards
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Baki كان يقول:
Looks like Gohan is waaaaay over his head with this one. Rage boost had no effect on the prince.
Gohan hasn’t gotten a rage boost yet. There was no angry screaming, no aura/ki explosion from powering up. Wait until Vegeta hurts Chichi.
DestroyerOfVegetards
18 آب
hedhi كان يقول:
Well this page settles it. Author is just really good at drawing Vegeta, he came out well the last few chapters.
DestroyerOfVegetards was saying: It sounds like Vegeta didn't order Raditz to kidnap Gohan. It was Raditz's own decision to do so. But why kidnap the boy if you didn't like him? It's funny how he got one-shot by Gohan 10 years later.
No. Where did it ever say that was Vegeta's order? Even in the original show it was pretty much stated to be all Raditz's idea.
Only difference (major difference) of course was that Raditz succeeded here.
Why did he kidnap him? Watch the show again. The answer is plain and obvious. Raditz did not expect him to be a spoiled pampered brat.
Seriously these are obvious questions youre asking with obvious answers.
DestroyerOfVegetards was saying: It sounds like Vegeta didn't order Raditz to kidnap Gohan. It was Raditz's own decision to do so. But why kidnap the boy if you didn't like him? It's funny how he got one-shot by Gohan 10 years later.
No. Where did it ever say that was Vegeta's order? Even in the original show it was pretty much stated to be all Raditz's idea.
Only difference (major difference) of course was that Raditz succeeded here.
Why did he kidnap him? Watch the show again. The answer is plain and obvious. Raditz did not expect him to be a spoiled pampered brat.
Seriously these are obvious questions youre asking with obvious answers.
Blah blah blah…
Raditz asked Vegeta about it, so I thought Vegeta might have a say in this matter. That’s all. What are you on about?
And Raditz saw him crying and yelling during the fight, he knew how the boy behaved. Telling someone to watch the show again when you disagree with them? lol.
DestroyerOfVegetards
17 آب
Upstart green bugman showed up and decided to turn triangle into square.
DB Multiverse page 2534
DestroyerOfVegetards
17 آب
debu كان يقول:
DestroyerOfVegetards was saying: It sounds like Vegeta didn't order Raditz to kidnap Gohan. It was Raditz's own decision to do so.
We actually saw exactly what happened on page 12. Radditz had the idea but asked Vegeta for permission, who did at least not refuse.
We actually saw exactly what happened on page 12. Radditz had the idea but asked Vegeta for permission, who did at least not refuse.
Yeah, but I thought Raditz needed to get a "go ahead" from Vegeta before taking Gohan. Now it's clear that Vegeta wasn't involved in the decision.
BangBang كان يقول:
Raditz always gets the short end of the stick.
Yeah, every version of Raditz (except U13) gets berated or ridiculed in every scene they appeared.
DestroyerOfVegetards
16 آب
It sounds like Vegeta didn't order Raditz to kidnap Gohan. It was Raditz's own decision to do so. But why kidnap the boy if you didn't like him? It's funny how he got one-shot by Gohan 10 years later.
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Saigo no Son page 102
DestroyerOfVegetards
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Ayashi كان يقول:
Considering the Power levels of the three saiyans in canon i don't think Nappa is a good teacher.
Remember that saiyens can be born in a rather wide range of initial power, which imo reflects their natural talent. And.. well:
Raditz, born low class, 1'500ish PL
Vegeta, born high class, 18'000 PL
And of course Nappa himself, born a noble and being (probably) in the 5k range.
IMO it's clear that he coasted entirely on natural talent rather than any actual instruction.
Remember that saiyens can be born in a rather wide range of initial power, which imo reflects their natural talent. And.. well:
Raditz, born low class, 1'500ish PL
Vegeta, born high class, 18'000 PL
And of course Nappa himself, born a noble and being (probably) in the 5k range.
IMO it's clear that he coasted entirely on natural talent rather than any actual instruction.
But Goku is the proof that initial power level doesn't always reflect natural talents.
This Nappa should be stronger than canon Nappa though, since he outlived his canon self by 10 years. And since the author decided to make him a teacher, maybe he will be a good teacher for Gohan.
The canon Nappa was never a teacher, especially not for Vegeta, despite what some people said. Maybe they get that idea from watching filler scenes and and inaccurate dubs. Even canon Vegeta said that he trained by himself his whole life and never had a teacher (until he met Beerus and Whis), so Nappa couldn't have trained him when he was young. At best, Nappa was Vegeta's sparring partner or bodyguard, but never a teacher. 1 رد (ردود)
DestroyerOfVegetards
15 آب
Damian Qualshy كان يقول:
DestroyerOfVegetards was saying: YellNinja1600 was saying: Maybe nappa had a thing for taking care of younger generations like a bodyguard. He might have been training saiyans back before he became prince Vegeta follower.
TFS Nappa, yes. But the real Nappa is too brash and inpatient to be a mentor. He likes to flex on the weak and loses his composure when a strong opponent shows up. I don't think he has the qualities of a mentor.
But here, he is the only one suitable to train Gohan, because Vegeta thinks too highly of himself and would never spend time training a child. He would leave that task to Nappa and Raditz. But Raditz is likely too weak to train Gohan (he sweated when Gohan's power level shot up during the fight with Goku and Piccolo), so Nappa is the only option.
Real Nappa as in English dub Nappa?
TFS Nappa, yes. But the real Nappa is too brash and inpatient to be a mentor. He likes to flex on the weak and loses his composure when a strong opponent shows up. I don't think he has the qualities of a mentor.
But here, he is the only one suitable to train Gohan, because Vegeta thinks too highly of himself and would never spend time training a child. He would leave that task to Nappa and Raditz. But Raditz is likely too weak to train Gohan (he sweated when Gohan's power level shot up during the fight with Goku and Piccolo), so Nappa is the only option.
Real Nappa as in English dub Nappa?
As in manga Nappa.
DestroyerOfVegetards
13 آب
YellNinja1600 كان يقول:
Maybe nappa had a thing for taking care of younger generations like a bodyguard. He might have been training saiyans back before he became prince Vegeta follower.
TFS Nappa, yes. But the real Nappa is too brash and inpatient to be a mentor. He likes to flex on the weak and loses his composure when a strong opponent shows up. I don't think he has the qualities of a mentor.
But here, he is the only one suitable to train Gohan, because Vegeta thinks too highly of himself and would never spend time training a child. He would leave that task to Nappa and Raditz. But Raditz is likely too weak to train Gohan (he sweated when Gohan's power level shot up during the fight with Goku and Piccolo), so Nappa is the only option. 2 رد (ردود)
DestroyerOfVegetards
11 آب
For a second I thought he punched Cell's head clean off in the last panel. Kinda like Gohan punching the Cell Jr's head off.
DB Multiverse page 2530
DestroyerOfVegetards
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ahhh...Gohan charges first, that means he's about to get his ass whooped. That's usually how it is. Then we will hear Vegeta blabbering about his royal and elite status, and how he is better than the bloodline of the low-class Kakarot. Then Gohan gets help from the humans, or somehow gets a rage boost. Then the table turns and Vegeta starts bitching... And the fight will likely end with Vegeta dead or running away. Maybe everyone will die (Tien, Yamcha, ChiChi). Anyway I hope we'll get to see some insane twists.
Saigo no Son page 98
DestroyerOfVegetards
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You can win, you feel great, you can do this Gohan! Smack him right in that Mcdonald hairline!
Saigo no Son page 97
DestroyerOfVegetards
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Vegeta's about to commit child abuse XD. I get a feeling something bad will happen to Chi-Chi soon, she will stand up to Vegeta to protect Gohan. That poor woman...
Saigo no Son page 96
DestroyerOfVegetards
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vparris0 كان يقول:
Vegeta always being obsessed with the saiyan heritage,but directly contributing to its extinction has always been a huge plot hole to me.
I think it's just because Toriyama changed his plan for Vegeta. I have heard different sources claimed that he originally planned for Vegeta to die permanently on Namek, and Piccolo will continue as Goku's main rival. If that's true, then it's understandable that he built Vegeta character as a selfish, indifferent, manipulative scumbag who deserved to die. Then when he brought Vegeta back as the fans wanted, he slowly changed his character into a more honorable warrior and a family man.
DestroyerOfVegetards
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DrewSaga كان يقول:
DestroyerOfVegetards was saying: Ammar was saying: Bill. was saying: Vegeta would have EASILY won against both, he EMBARASSED android 19 and gero is not even pre kami fusion piccolo level
...Huh. I see that Dr. Gero wasn't the only one who got fooled by Vegeta.
Arkren was saying: the sacred ritual of the 1v1 fight in db universe must be maintained. also if gero had chaimed in piccolo would have stopped him
True, but it's better than standing there while your Android is getting clapped. Dr. Gero should have jumped the moment he saw Android 19 struggling.
CompactCoven was saying:
Give Vegeta some credit, he wasn't showing off, he was taking his time to confirm the Androids drain energy specifically through their hands. If he had to fight both at once, he wouldn't have done such a risky tactic
I will not give him credits for putting himself in a vulnerable situation. He stated that he saw Goku's fight.
The moron literally put himself in vulnerable situation just to act cool. If Dr. Gero stoop his ground and attacked, then Vegeta would looked so dumb in that fight. Which is what end up happening against Cell.
"Appear strong when you're weak. Appear weak when you're strong." - idk, Sun Tzu, maybe?
That's what Vegeta and Piccolo did in that moment. And it worked.
Sun Tzu definitely said that in his famous book.
But yeah, Piccolo wanted to do that but then BOOM! Vegeta got in his way!
...Huh. I see that Dr. Gero wasn't the only one who got fooled by Vegeta.
Arkren was saying: the sacred ritual of the 1v1 fight in db universe must be maintained. also if gero had chaimed in piccolo would have stopped him
True, but it's better than standing there while your Android is getting clapped. Dr. Gero should have jumped the moment he saw Android 19 struggling.
CompactCoven was saying:
Give Vegeta some credit, he wasn't showing off, he was taking his time to confirm the Androids drain energy specifically through their hands. If he had to fight both at once, he wouldn't have done such a risky tactic
I will not give him credits for putting himself in a vulnerable situation. He stated that he saw Goku's fight.
The moron literally put himself in vulnerable situation just to act cool. If Dr. Gero stoop his ground and attacked, then Vegeta would looked so dumb in that fight. Which is what end up happening against Cell.
"Appear strong when you're weak. Appear weak when you're strong." - idk, Sun Tzu, maybe?
That's what Vegeta and Piccolo did in that moment. And it worked.
Sun Tzu definitely said that in his famous book.
But yeah, Piccolo wanted to do that but then BOOM! Vegeta got in his way!
"Appear strong when you're weak" = what Vegeta did after A19 drained his energy.
"Appear weak when you're strong" = what Piccolo did when he acted like Gero's eyebeams hurt him.
DestroyerOfVegetards
31 تموز
Ammar كان يقول:
Bill. was saying: Vegeta would have EASILY won against both, he EMBARASSED android 19 and gero is not even pre kami fusion piccolo level
...Huh. I see that Dr. Gero wasn't the only one who got fooled by Vegeta.
Arkren was saying: the sacred ritual of the 1v1 fight in db universe must be maintained. also if gero had chaimed in piccolo would have stopped him
True, but it's better than standing there while your Android is getting clapped. Dr. Gero should have jumped the moment he saw Android 19 struggling.
CompactCoven was saying:
Give Vegeta some credit, he wasn't showing off, he was taking his time to confirm the Androids drain energy specifically through their hands. If he had to fight both at once, he wouldn't have done such a risky tactic
I will not give him credits for putting himself in a vulnerable situation. He stated that he saw Goku's fight.
The moron literally put himself in vulnerable situation just to act cool. If Dr. Gero stoop his ground and attacked, then Vegeta would looked so dumb in that fight. Which is what end up happening against Cell.
...Huh. I see that Dr. Gero wasn't the only one who got fooled by Vegeta.
Arkren was saying: the sacred ritual of the 1v1 fight in db universe must be maintained. also if gero had chaimed in piccolo would have stopped him
True, but it's better than standing there while your Android is getting clapped. Dr. Gero should have jumped the moment he saw Android 19 struggling.
CompactCoven was saying:
Give Vegeta some credit, he wasn't showing off, he was taking his time to confirm the Androids drain energy specifically through their hands. If he had to fight both at once, he wouldn't have done such a risky tactic
I will not give him credits for putting himself in a vulnerable situation. He stated that he saw Goku's fight.
The moron literally put himself in vulnerable situation just to act cool. If Dr. Gero stoop his ground and attacked, then Vegeta would looked so dumb in that fight. Which is what end up happening against Cell.
"Appear strong when you're weak. Appear weak when you're strong." - idk, Sun Tzu, maybe?
That's what Vegeta and Piccolo did in that moment. And it worked. 2 رد (ردود)
DestroyerOfVegetards
30 تموز
Did he absorb Voldemort to achieve that Semiperfect form?
DB Multiverse page 2523
DestroyerOfVegetards
30 تموز
Smart move, Geetz! Smart move. Now it's just you against everyone XD
Dude gave zero F about his people, his home planet. Yet he brags non-stop about "Saiyan pride". If he's actually proud of his race, he should have treated his people better. Just like in U18, he totally deserves to be humiliated and killed by Frieza, that is if he survives this fight on Earth. This time, Goku isn't around to show him mercy or avenge his death.
Saigo no Son page 94
Dude gave zero F about his people, his home planet. Yet he brags non-stop about "Saiyan pride". If he's actually proud of his race, he should have treated his people better. Just like in U18, he totally deserves to be humiliated and killed by Frieza, that is if he survives this fight on Earth. This time, Goku isn't around to show him mercy or avenge his death.
DestroyerOfVegetards
26 تموز
Is Nappa still stronger than Gohan though? Vegeta seems to think Nappa is strong enough to kill Gohan.
Nappa is doomed. If he disobeys Vegeta, he will likely die. If he tries to fight Gohan... well, with Gohan's potential he's probably way above Nappa's level. And the humans wouldn't just stand around watching. They would seize the chance to take down Nappa.
Saigo no Son page 93
Nappa is doomed. If he disobeys Vegeta, he will likely die. If he tries to fight Gohan... well, with Gohan's potential he's probably way above Nappa's level. And the humans wouldn't just stand around watching. They would seize the chance to take down Nappa.
DestroyerOfVegetards
25 تموز
Triz كان يقول:
DestroyerOfVegetards was saying: Philsdesign was saying: Cosmichero was saying: 仅是剑客 was saying: The Gohan's character is weird, like he didn't know conquer Earth meant he would have to fight against his mother.
I think Gohan blocked out the memories he had on Earth, as a defense mechanism so he could survive in a world where he needed to commit atrocities or die.
He knew where he came from, but his feeling and memories only came back when he heard his mother.
That still doesn't make sense
Gohan couldn't stand his mom (literally asked if he could live with Bulma post Namek) and barely had any bond with his father (by the age of 16 Goku was absent for over 10 years). Both barely knew or cared for Gohan, Chichi was the definition of a tiger mom who made him study 24/7 without caring what he actually wanted and Goku a deadbeat who viewed Gohan as a mini him and again didn't care about his interests (the only actual time they ever spent together was training)
The true parental figure was Piccolo. In every adaptation this is shown and he is the one that effectively raised Gohan to be who he grew into
That never happened here, Nappa took that role and raised him to be a bloodthirsty killer, empathy and emotions are weak and so on.
Nasu doing a 180 like this makes no sense unless he either says he'll do it faster, plans to steal leadership from Vegeta (so be a true saiyan) or just goes full Omniman and says Earth isn't theirs to conquer
As if these Saiyans weren't verbally and physically abusive to Gohan in the 10 years he lived with them... If you think Gohan can't stand Chichi for being a tiger mom, can he stand these brutal, abusive Saiyans then? Do these Saiyan "uncles" care about his interests?
Many of us Asians have tiger parents. Does that mean we can't bond with them? Does that mean we all grow up hating our tiger parents? No. Most of us appreciate our parents, despite their parenting style. Chichi is an exaggerated example of a tiger parent, typical Toriyama humor.
As a kid, I asked my aunts and uncles if I could live with them (just like Gohan asked Bulma). Does that mean I actually wanted to stay away from my parents? No. It's always funny when Western fans judge a character created by an Asian author using Western standards.
The "uncle Nappa" is as silly as the "tiger mom Chichi". Both were Americanized comedic versions of these characters. Chichi is just a typical Asian mom, not a terrible mother (exaggerated behavior just for humor). And Nappa is just a brutish jerk and Vegeta's bootlicker, not an uncle.
"Gohan doing a 180 makes no sense?" It makes lots of sense to me.
Westerner here- Would the author going down the “uncle Nappa” path that everyone’s talking about seem completely out of character for you? Genuine curiosity.
I think Gohan blocked out the memories he had on Earth, as a defense mechanism so he could survive in a world where he needed to commit atrocities or die.
He knew where he came from, but his feeling and memories only came back when he heard his mother.
That still doesn't make sense
Gohan couldn't stand his mom (literally asked if he could live with Bulma post Namek) and barely had any bond with his father (by the age of 16 Goku was absent for over 10 years). Both barely knew or cared for Gohan, Chichi was the definition of a tiger mom who made him study 24/7 without caring what he actually wanted and Goku a deadbeat who viewed Gohan as a mini him and again didn't care about his interests (the only actual time they ever spent together was training)
The true parental figure was Piccolo. In every adaptation this is shown and he is the one that effectively raised Gohan to be who he grew into
That never happened here, Nappa took that role and raised him to be a bloodthirsty killer, empathy and emotions are weak and so on.
Nasu doing a 180 like this makes no sense unless he either says he'll do it faster, plans to steal leadership from Vegeta (so be a true saiyan) or just goes full Omniman and says Earth isn't theirs to conquer
As if these Saiyans weren't verbally and physically abusive to Gohan in the 10 years he lived with them... If you think Gohan can't stand Chichi for being a tiger mom, can he stand these brutal, abusive Saiyans then? Do these Saiyan "uncles" care about his interests?
Many of us Asians have tiger parents. Does that mean we can't bond with them? Does that mean we all grow up hating our tiger parents? No. Most of us appreciate our parents, despite their parenting style. Chichi is an exaggerated example of a tiger parent, typical Toriyama humor.
As a kid, I asked my aunts and uncles if I could live with them (just like Gohan asked Bulma). Does that mean I actually wanted to stay away from my parents? No. It's always funny when Western fans judge a character created by an Asian author using Western standards.
The "uncle Nappa" is as silly as the "tiger mom Chichi". Both were Americanized comedic versions of these characters. Chichi is just a typical Asian mom, not a terrible mother (exaggerated behavior just for humor). And Nappa is just a brutish jerk and Vegeta's bootlicker, not an uncle.
"Gohan doing a 180 makes no sense?" It makes lots of sense to me.
Westerner here- Would the author going down the “uncle Nappa” path that everyone’s talking about seem completely out of character for you? Genuine curiosity.
Yes, if this Nappa puts himself at risk to protect Gohan. But that's not a big deal, I would still enjoy it, just like I enjoyed U13 Raditz being a good brother to his Kakarot. This is a fan comic.
But don't say "everyone". No one can speak for everyone.
DestroyerOfVegetards
25 تموز
Philsdesign كان يقول:
Cosmichero was saying: 仅是剑客 was saying: The Gohan's character is weird, like he didn't know conquer Earth meant he would have to fight against his mother.
I think Gohan blocked out the memories he had on Earth, as a defense mechanism so he could survive in a world where he needed to commit atrocities or die.
He knew where he came from, but his feeling and memories only came back when he heard his mother.
That still doesn't make sense
Gohan couldn't stand his mom (literally asked if he could live with Bulma post Namek) and barely had any bond with his father (by the age of 16 Goku was absent for over 10 years). Both barely knew or cared for Gohan, Chichi was the definition of a tiger mom who made him study 24/7 without caring what he actually wanted and Goku a deadbeat who viewed Gohan as a mini him and again didn't care about his interests (the only actual time they ever spent together was training)
The true parental figure was Piccolo. In every adaptation this is shown and he is the one that effectively raised Gohan to be who he grew into
That never happened here, Nappa took that role and raised him to be a bloodthirsty killer, empathy and emotions are weak and so on.
Nasu doing a 180 like this makes no sense unless he either says he'll do it faster, plans to steal leadership from Vegeta (so be a true saiyan) or just goes full Omniman and says Earth isn't theirs to conquer
I think Gohan blocked out the memories he had on Earth, as a defense mechanism so he could survive in a world where he needed to commit atrocities or die.
He knew where he came from, but his feeling and memories only came back when he heard his mother.
That still doesn't make sense
Gohan couldn't stand his mom (literally asked if he could live with Bulma post Namek) and barely had any bond with his father (by the age of 16 Goku was absent for over 10 years). Both barely knew or cared for Gohan, Chichi was the definition of a tiger mom who made him study 24/7 without caring what he actually wanted and Goku a deadbeat who viewed Gohan as a mini him and again didn't care about his interests (the only actual time they ever spent together was training)
The true parental figure was Piccolo. In every adaptation this is shown and he is the one that effectively raised Gohan to be who he grew into
That never happened here, Nappa took that role and raised him to be a bloodthirsty killer, empathy and emotions are weak and so on.
Nasu doing a 180 like this makes no sense unless he either says he'll do it faster, plans to steal leadership from Vegeta (so be a true saiyan) or just goes full Omniman and says Earth isn't theirs to conquer
As if these Saiyans weren't verbally and physically abusive to Gohan in the 10 years he lived with them... If you think Gohan can't stand Chichi for being a tiger mom, can he stand these brutal, abusive Saiyans then? Do these Saiyan "uncles" care about his interests?
Many of us Asians have tiger parents. Does that mean we can't bond with them? Does that mean we all grow up hating our tiger parents? No. Most of us appreciate our parents, despite their parenting style. Chichi is an exaggerated example of a tiger parent, typical Toriyama humor.
As a kid, I asked my aunts and uncles if I could live with them (just like Gohan asked Bulma). Does that mean I actually wanted to stay away from my parents? No. It's always funny when Western fans judge a character created by an Asian author using Western standards.
The "uncle Nappa" is as silly as the "tiger mom Chichi". Both were Americanized comedic versions of these characters. Chichi is just a typical Asian mom, not a terrible mother (exaggerated behavior just for humor). And Nappa is just a brutish jerk and Vegeta's bootlicker, not an uncle.
"Gohan doing a 180 makes no sense?" It makes lots of sense to me. 1 رد (ردود)
DestroyerOfVegetards
24 تموز
I just realized Vegeta is doing the "it's over 9000" pose in the last panel.
It would be cool if Gohan replies to Vegeta with: "My name is Son Gohan." Maybe not now, but some moments later. Just like Goku saying his name is Son Goku when the Saiyans call him Kakarot.
Saigo no Son page 91
It would be cool if Gohan replies to Vegeta with: "My name is Son Gohan." Maybe not now, but some moments later. Just like Goku saying his name is Son Goku when the Saiyans call him Kakarot.
DestroyerOfVegetards
23 تموز
Gogetto كان يقول:
Friday can't come soon enough!
Also the comic is called dragon ball multiverse not dragon ball multiverse tournament so it may have been extremely short sighted of any of us to believe the tournament would be the end lol. Imagine if this is just the first arc lol
Also the comic is called dragon ball multiverse not dragon ball multiverse tournament so it may have been extremely short sighted of any of us to believe the tournament would be the end lol. Imagine if this is just the first arc lol
Everybody knows DBM is about the "what-if" stories, alternate timelines... The tournament is just to give the universes a reason to meet each other, to give readers a chance to see the fights that can never happen in canon DB. When I first started reading this comic, I didn't even expect we would make it to the final. I thought the tournament would have to be cancelled and it would be come a heroes vs villains struggle a while back.
DestroyerOfVegetards
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"It was at this moment that Gast knew... he f*cked up."
He could have warned the organizers about XXI's true nature. If not the Vargas, at least he could still try to communicate with the Namekians.
DB Multiverse page 2520
He could have warned the organizers about XXI's true nature. If not the Vargas, at least he could still try to communicate with the Namekians.
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CornBreadtm كان يقول:
It's fine. You can always grow more Raditz.
BangBang was saying: Basically the same Vegeta that killed Nappa in the original is now mad that Nasu killed the weak link of the squad. Oh, the hypocrisy.
Vegeta killed Nappa because he was paralyzed. Meaning he could no longer fight. There is no Saiyan retirement home... in this dimension!!!
BangBang was saying: Basically the same Vegeta that killed Nappa in the original is now mad that Nasu killed the weak link of the squad. Oh, the hypocrisy.
Vegeta killed Nappa because he was paralyzed. Meaning he could no longer fight. There is no Saiyan retirement home... in this dimension!!!
He could have thrown Nappa into a Saiyan pod and set the destination to send Nappa back to one of Frieza's planets, where they can put Nappa in a healing tank. Vegeta himself was near death when he lost to Zarbon, but Frieza's technology was advanced enough to heal him. While there is no guarantee that Nappa could be fully healed, Vegeta could have at least tried. But no, he just blasted him to dust.
But Vegeta is not being hypocritical here. He's just mad because Gohan betrayed the Saiyans, not because Raditz is dead.
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Thiln كان يقول:
DestroyerOfVegetards was saying: kcheeb was saying: Nice 2v4 turned into 3v2 now
And one of the 2 doesn't have a arm lolol
Vegeta can one-shot both Tien and Yamcha if he's serious, and Nappa can still transform into Great Ape... Even if Gohan switches side, the Saiyans still have the upper hand.
I wonder if Yajirobe will show up here to help the humans. Although he had little screen time, he played an important role in defeating Vegeta in canon.
Why couldn't the humans disarm them through a Taiyoken manoeuvre while severing their tails? Actually, a three fold attack with Yamcha using the Spirit Ball to remove the thing followed by Tien and Gohan attacking with their strongest ki blasts against Vegeta would be best. In the likely event that Krillin is still alive, that could help quite a bit too.
And one of the 2 doesn't have a arm lolol
Vegeta can one-shot both Tien and Yamcha if he's serious, and Nappa can still transform into Great Ape... Even if Gohan switches side, the Saiyans still have the upper hand.
I wonder if Yajirobe will show up here to help the humans. Although he had little screen time, he played an important role in defeating Vegeta in canon.
Why couldn't the humans disarm them through a Taiyoken manoeuvre while severing their tails? Actually, a three fold attack with Yamcha using the Spirit Ball to remove the thing followed by Tien and Gohan attacking with their strongest ki blasts against Vegeta would be best. In the likely event that Krillin is still alive, that could help quite a bit too.
Old man Roshi may have some tricks, even if he's too weak for the Saiyans, he can still assist the Earth boys during their combined attacks. He's on the battlefield now, he should do something instead of just standing there watching.
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kcheeb كان يقول:
Nice 2v4 turned into 3v2 now
And one of the 2 doesn't have a arm lolol
And one of the 2 doesn't have a arm lolol
Vegeta can one-shot both Tien and Yamcha if he's serious, and Nappa can still transform into Great Ape... Even if Gohan switches side, the Saiyans still have the upper hand.
I wonder if Yajirobe will show up here to help the humans. Although he had little screen time, he played an important role in defeating Vegeta in canon. 1 رد (ردود)
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The good guys, mainly U16 and U18, can easily one shot these villains. This shouldn't last long. We'll get to see XXI in action soon, these villains are just sacrifices.
Unless South Kai gets more stupid and tries to screw the good guys, while leaving the bad guys free to cause chaos.
DB Multiverse page 2518
Unless South Kai gets more stupid and tries to screw the good guys, while leaving the bad guys free to cause chaos.
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Kaioken + Shin Kikoho = instant death for both Tien and his enemy. He should save that for Vegeta.
Saigo no Son page 87
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Does South Kaioshin want to eliminate everyone (as in killing them all) or just send them all home? I thought he was thinking about eliminating them all a few pages ago?
DB Multiverse page 2515
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Glitchy كان يقول:
This story keeps backing itself into corners, if they trained THAT much, then there is NO WAY the saiyans would be stronger than them.
Not only is the Author vastly underselling the humans but also making Frieza act out of character, there is also NO WAY he would let the saiyans under his constant surveillance get that strong.
Not only is the Author vastly underselling the humans but also making Frieza act out of character, there is also NO WAY he would let the saiyans under his constant surveillance get that strong.
I still enjoy the story, but you made some good points. After 10 years of training, especially with some help from Goku (if that's what this page implies), the humans should be able to stand their ground against the Saiyans. Goku could still find Kami and King Kai in the afterlife and learn from them, and then tell his human friends about the training methods he learned. That would help the humans train effectively.
And Frieza would never allow the Saiyans to grow stronger than his henchmen Zarbon and Dodoria. He would have killed them off if they grew that strong, to eliminate any potential threat. With 10 years of training, the humans should have surpassed Zarbon's and Dodoria's level.
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They still don't know how to deal with IKL/XXI's Time Stop magic. Now that Yamcha is gone, A16 is the only one (among the "good guys") who is immune to it. XXI can stop time right now and steal the wish, unless the magic requires some recharge time.
Anyway, wow, I know death is a joke in DB... but Goku just died and came back to life in like 3 pages XD faster than any case in canon DB. 1 رد (ردود)
DB Multiverse page 2514
Anyway, wow, I know death is a joke in DB... but Goku just died and came back to life in like 3 pages XD faster than any case in canon DB. 1 رد (ردود)
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No Gogeta vs Vegito then. Goku is dead, Gogeta can't be born to fight angry Vegito :(
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DB Multiverse page 2513
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If Raditz dies here, I hope Tien and Yamcha gang up on Nappa, while Gohan deals with Vegeta.
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Saigo no Son page 84
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Chill, guys. The cover page of this chapter showed all of the opponents Goku fought in tournament finals. All were great fights. No way THIS tournament final would end like this.
DB Multiverse page 2512
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Teleported_Bread كان يقول:
King Kindred was saying: It really feels weird that Raditz keeps trying so hard to kill non-combatants instead of the one he claims to be mad at.
At least it gives characters a sense of individuality. Also Raditz seems to have always had a bit of cowardice in him, so would it be arguable that he'd do such a thing?
He's probably just trying to prove himself or something by attacking like this.
At least it gives characters a sense of individuality. Also Raditz seems to have always had a bit of cowardice in him, so would it be arguable that he'd do such a thing?
He's probably just trying to prove himself or something by attacking like this.
Talk about cowardice, I think Vegeta, Nappa, and Raditz all have that in them.
Nappa was angry that he couldn't touch Goku, so he attacked Krillin and Gohan by surprise, right after Vegeta told him to stop fighting Goku. He wanted to take his frustration out on the two little guys. It's kinda similar to what Raditz's doing here, he couldn't beat Yamcha, so he attacked the harmless humans.
Vegeta was cowardice af during the Namek saga, against the Ginyus and Frieza himself. He was very cocky when fighting Cui, Dodoria, and Zarbon. But he freaked out when faced by someone stronger than him, lost the will to fight and cried like a b*tch XD
All these "proud" Saiyans are like that. They are arrogant when they know they're stronger than the opponent, but they lose their shit when someone stronger shows up. 1 رد (ردود)
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Oh, he still remembers how his parents and grandpa looked, how he looked when he was 4.
That means he definitely remembers what Raditz did to his dad.
Saigo no Son page 82
That means he definitely remembers what Raditz did to his dad.
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Bro tanked Raditz's blast, then started talking to Bulma while still showing his back to Raditz. He really doesn't see Raditz as a serious threat.
Saigo no Son page 81
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felfury88 كان يقول:
Oh man! It’s chi chi. I hope this doesn’t end badly.
Gogetto was saying: Wow I did not expect this. Chi chi is such a smart move. Now it's gonna get good... Vegeta may kill her and then Gohan will flip
Or Vegeta could kill her and Gohan will just go ‘meh’ and continues to pummel tenshinhan with Nappa.
Gogetto was saying: Wow I did not expect this. Chi chi is such a smart move. Now it's gonna get good... Vegeta may kill her and then Gohan will flip
Or Vegeta could kill her and Gohan will just go ‘meh’ and continues to pummel tenshinhan with Nappa.
I feel like Vegeta will force Gohan to kill ChiChi. Before they came to Earth, Vegeta suspected that Gohan would pull his punches because this is his "home planet". So Vegeta will force Gohan to kill his own mother, to prove that Gohan is a "true" Saiyan.
DestroyerOfVegetards
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Gohan kills ChiChi in cold blood, the Saiyans massacre the Z-fighters and all of humanity, end of story XD. These alternate timeline stories usually have depressing endings.
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Saigo no Son page 79
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I like that look of confidence on Goku's face.
DB Multiverse page 2508
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Goku's gonna make XXI so mad he loses his shit and shows his true color. He almost slipped when he failed to consume Gast.
DB Multiverse page 2506
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Well, IKL fucked up.
He warned Yamcha about XXI, he wanted to eliminate XXI and everyone at this tournament, and he gave South his power. But now South wants to use IKL's power to kill everyone, while believing "XXI is the only one who respects the rules". 1 رد (ردود)
DB Multiverse page 2505
He warned Yamcha about XXI, he wanted to eliminate XXI and everyone at this tournament, and he gave South his power. But now South wants to use IKL's power to kill everyone, while believing "XXI is the only one who respects the rules". 1 رد (ردود)
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What happened to Raditz? Why is Yamcha just standing there, watching and sweating on every page?
Saigo no Son page 75
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Cell broke Babidi's spell and sided with the good guys. He has that proud Saiyan-like mentality. And he's smarter than most of the villains (except for when he got beaten by a kid a lost his shit). I doubt he would be manipulated by XXI. Cell always plays his own game.
DB Multiverse page 2504
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عمار كان يقول:
I repeat!!! Kaioshin of the South! A wild half monkey nerd is breaking the God damn rules! Go and Annihilate him!!!
South only acts tough on those weaker than him. Zen Buu broke the rules and laughed in South's face.
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DesLife كان يقول:
What's that thing in the background of panel 1 ?
Just a tree, I think. But it does look like Zapdos. 2 رد (ردود)
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debu كان يقول:
Thiln was saying:
Mentioned before but how about a Mafuba sealing coupled with a one-way trip to the Sun? Think that could work on the Saiyan Prince?
This is not the Mafuba version which got senselessly retconned by DBS. It does only work on demons. It even says so by it's name because it literally translates to 'demon sealing wave'
Mentioned before but how about a Mafuba sealing coupled with a one-way trip to the Sun? Think that could work on the Saiyan Prince?
This is not the Mafuba version which got senselessly retconned by DBS. It does only work on demons. It even says so by it's name because it literally translates to 'demon sealing wave'
In Eastern Asian languages (those with Chinese influence), the word Ma = demon, devil, ghoul, ghost, wraith, or anything evil or sinister in general. Ma has different meanings depending on the context. The technique's name when translated to English should be "Evil sealing wave" or "Evil sealing storm", not "Demon sealing wave."
So the target doesn't have to be a demon. Any evil being can be affected by this attack. Evil characters like Zamasu and Frost can surely be sealed by this. The only strange case was when Vegeta got accidentally sealed for a few seconds before Roshi freed him. Vegeta was no longer evil at that point.
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Well, that's what usually happens when you just stand there waiting for the smoke to clear and allow your opponent to counter attack.
Saigo no Son page 72
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Well shit, everything is going south, thanks to South.
But, didn't Yamcha tell everyone everything after he defeated IKL? So these organizers were not paying attention to what Yamcha said.
DB Multiverse page 2501
But, didn't Yamcha tell everyone everything after he defeated IKL? So these organizers were not paying attention to what Yamcha said.
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jonathan_vik كان يقول:
Doesn't this mental block make Raditz kind of useless? For example, a generic guard could kick Raditz's hindquarters with ease. They are just doing their job and are trying to feed their family. Or what if Raditz faces against an animal? I'm not sure Elder Kai thought this through.
I think the mental block will exert it effect only when Raditz is the one who initiates the fight. If he attacks a bad guy, his power will come out. If he attacks the innocent, his power will be blocked.
However, when he isn't the one who starts the fight (meaning he is being attacked by someone else, good or evil), the mental block will have no effect, and he will be able to use his power for self-defense, and only for self-defense. If he has evil intention during the fight, the block will activate. 1 رد (ردود)
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Both Raditz and Nappa got hit by a Kamehameha at point blank. If they survived, then it's clear that the Earthlings don't stand a chance.
Saigo no Son page 69
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He needs 2 hands to block 2 beams coming from 2 directions... or he can dodge.
Saigo no Son page 68
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shakezula كان يقول:
Nappa is screwed. When SSJ2 Gohan lost his arm it cut his power in half. Nappa just got his entire arm cut off so thats bad news for him. Don't see him lasting long against this Krillin.
The Saiyans still have the Great Ape form as their last resort though. I prefer the Earthlings here, but I don't think they have much a chance, unless Gohan turns on the Saiyans.
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Bleeding and sweating profusely. Nappa's about to lose his sh*t here, just like when Goku humiliated him.
Saigo no Son page 66
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King Kindred كان يقول:
Well, it looks like Raditz is dead. I know Vegeta can't sense ki yet, but he wouldn't have that look if he wasn't certain it was strong enough to kill Raditz.
You mean the second panel? That's Raditz, not Vegeta.
Raditz wears black armor, Vegeta wears white armor. And you can see a spike of Raditz's long hair.
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Rey Vegeta كان يقول:
I don't think Raditz will survive against this Yamcha
Saiyans can go Great Ape. The Z fighters have no chance of winning if they just rely on power alone. I don't see how they can win without having some strategy/trap for the Saiyans.
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"You have no reason to betray us" - Nappa, the all brawn and no brain villain.
"We get first pick on the sharing of the universes." - Frieza, the weak ass villain who thinks the others will let him pick first.
Yeah, XXI are recruiting the stupid ones. Maybe A17 and A18 next?
DB Multiverse page 2493
"We get first pick on the sharing of the universes." - Frieza, the weak ass villain who thinks the others will let him pick first.
Yeah, XXI are recruiting the stupid ones. Maybe A17 and A18 next?
DestroyerOfVegetards
18 أيار
Called it. Of course it had to be Chiaotzu. He's already doing more here than he ever did in the canon Saiyan saga fight.
If the Earthlings are going to lose, at least it would be nice to see them throwing everything they have at the Saiyans before losing. Destructo disk, kamehameha, dodon ray, solar flare, wolf fang fist, spirit ball, and maybe some new techniques they invented in the last 10 years of training. They can also take advantage of the Saiyans' arrogance and inability to sense Ki to ambush/surprise them. I hope they prepared some strategies and didn't just focus on increasing combat power alone.
Saigo no Son page 63
If the Earthlings are going to lose, at least it would be nice to see them throwing everything they have at the Saiyans before losing. Destructo disk, kamehameha, dodon ray, solar flare, wolf fang fist, spirit ball, and maybe some new techniques they invented in the last 10 years of training. They can also take advantage of the Saiyans' arrogance and inability to sense Ki to ambush/surprise them. I hope they prepared some strategies and didn't just focus on increasing combat power alone.
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If they can hear his thoughts and see his past, then they know that he consumed universes and intends to do the same thing to other universes, likely including U13. They can also see his intention to use them to do his biding as well. So whatever "thoughts" and "memories" he's showing them are just fabricated or selected. No one would seriously share their thoughts and memories with strangers just to gain their trust, Vegeta should know this.
Saiyans are wild and rebellious, especially these U13 Saiyans. XXI might be underestimating them. 1 رد (ردود)
DB Multiverse page 2492
Saiyans are wild and rebellious, especially these U13 Saiyans. XXI might be underestimating them. 1 رد (ردود)
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Chiaotzu uses his magic to pause Gohan for a brief moment, allowing Tien to dodge the attack just in time.
Saigo no Son page 62
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Vegeta himself is a villain with ambitions, and he also had to deal with Frieza. He should be smart enough to know that villains don't share good things with each other, and this offer is too good to be true.
DB Multiverse page 2491
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This could go either way. Tien using Dodon Ray would be nice. He hasn't used it in a long time.
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Saigo no Son page 60
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This is likely just XXI spreading fake news to manipulate the U13 Saiyans. He surely knew how Kakarot would react.
DB Multiverse page 2490
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Girl Buu كان يقول:
Yeah, there's a difference between Buu-han catching him off guard then turning him to candy and this. Buu didn't say "Hey I can zap you with my head tentacle and cure your crippling arthritis from all those years of training" and Vegito say "Okay sounds great". It makes him look genuinely foolish even if XXI is being genuine here.
Exactly. Noboby called him stupid for getting caught off guard by Buu's candy beam. This is totally different, he was warned by Old Kai and Yamcha, he deserves to be called stupid here.
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Vegito can't be this stupid...
At least he should think about the warnings from Old Kai and IKL/yamcha, and think about why XXI is helping him, what does XXI gain by helping him.
DB Multiverse page 2489
At least he should think about the warnings from Old Kai and IKL/yamcha, and think about why XXI is helping him, what does XXI gain by helping him.
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kcheeb كان يقول:
If tien kikoho not strong enough to at least incapacitate Gohan, they spend no chance vs vegeta
No way Gohan is incapacitated at the beginning of the fight.
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UltraExtream كان يقول:
Get ready for Nassu rage power boost in 3....2....1.
Saiyans don't get rage boost from seeing their comrades hurting or dying, lmao. The Saiyans in DB canon get rage boosts when their friends are hurt, because they have human feelings, they are capable of caring/loving others.
The Saiyans in this universe here have no humanity in them. They'd be like "meh" when their comrades get hurt or die.
They'd rage only when their own ego gets hurt. 1 رد (ردود)
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"You see, androids, you're not dealing with the average chicken anymore."
DB Multiverse page 2474
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If the Earthlings have been training hard in the last 10 years, and used the time chamber on Kami's place to give themselves a few extra years of training, they may stand a chance.
The Saiyans in this universe likely can't sense Ki, all of them are still wearing scouters here. The Earthlings can take advantage of that, tricking the Saiyans into thinking their opponents are weak, and surprise the Saiyans with some powerful attacks. If they manage to destroy their scouters, they can retreat and set up ambush too, since the Saiyans can't locate them without scouters.
Saigo no Son page 31
The Saiyans in this universe likely can't sense Ki, all of them are still wearing scouters here. The Earthlings can take advantage of that, tricking the Saiyans into thinking their opponents are weak, and surprise the Saiyans with some powerful attacks. If they manage to destroy their scouters, they can retreat and set up ambush too, since the Saiyans can't locate them without scouters.
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So, did XXI just ask the dragon for the method to defeat each opponent, and then XXI himself perform the tricks to defeat his opponent?
Or was it the dragon who performed those tricks (transporting Vegito, sealing Buu...) and XXI didn't have to do anything? Like, they discussed the plan and the timing, and the dragon would just cast those spells when XXI told him to.
I'm asking this because the dragon said "Is that a request to me?" after they discussed something.
DB Multiverse page 2462
Or was it the dragon who performed those tricks (transporting Vegito, sealing Buu...) and XXI didn't have to do anything? Like, they discussed the plan and the timing, and the dragon would just cast those spells when XXI told him to.
I'm asking this because the dragon said "Is that a request to me?" after they discussed something.
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I like how Gohan isn't afraid to talk back to Vegeta. I feel like Vegeta won't allow any Saiyan to be stronger than him, since he's so proud of his royal blood and elite status. (same reason his dad tried to kill baby Broly)
If Gohan and Vegeta end up fighting each other later in the story, I wonder whom Nappa and Raditz will side with. 1 رد (ردود)
Saigo no Son page 28
If Gohan and Vegeta end up fighting each other later in the story, I wonder whom Nappa and Raditz will side with. 1 رد (ردود)
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SoyBear كان يقول:
I just noticed that while the three sayains still wear scouters, Nasu hasn't been shown using one.
He's also the only one wearing armor model without shoulder/thigh pads.
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gogetafan#1 كان يقول:
considering gohan seemingly looks like a teen, does that mean the androids and cell are already there lmao
Gero doesn't have the DNA of Vegeta, Frieza, and King Cold to create Cell, because they have never been to Earth.
ViceShadow كان يقول:
There could be many possibilities of what happens. (Or I think could happen)
1. Popo told them of Kami's ship and they found namek and revived Piccolo and Goku (who could have trained with King Kai)
2. The androids have made Earth look more like the future timeline due to no one being there (or the ones there not strong enouth) defend it. (Which still could be linked to the first idea)
Or 3. Due to both Goku and Piccolo's body still remaining, it could be android versions of Goku and Piccolo (or just one of them) meaning for a possible father Vs son battle.
But we'll just have to find out onces the future chapters release.
1. Popo told them of Kami's ship and they found namek and revived Piccolo and Goku (who could have trained with King Kai)
2. The androids have made Earth look more like the future timeline due to no one being there (or the ones there not strong enouth) defend it. (Which still could be linked to the first idea)
Or 3. Due to both Goku and Piccolo's body still remaining, it could be android versions of Goku and Piccolo (or just one of them) meaning for a possible father Vs son battle.
But we'll just have to find out onces the future chapters release.
Based on what the writer said in the comment sections of the previous pages, the first scenario is unlikely.
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ShadowMokujin كان يقول:
The should send zen buu a trophy also
Award for having the most rampage attempts XD
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goten-kun كان يقول:
DestroyerOfVegetards was saying: I wonder how Gohan/Nasu will react if he goes to Earth and meet his mother Chichi again. Theoretically, Goku could have been revived on Earth too.
In canon DBZ, the Saiyans and Frieza found out about the dragon balls because Piccolo was talking to the dying Raditz, and that conversation was transmitted to the Saiyans and Frieza via Raditz's scouter. In this universe, that conversation never happened, so the Saiyans and Frieza don't know about the dragon balls, and therefore wouldn't target planet Namek. During the years that Gohan spent with the Saiyans, the remaining Z fighters could have traveled to Namek and borrowed their dragon balls to revive Goku and Piccolo.
But I feel like the author wouldn't write it this way XD
Nobody, here, know about Namek. They knew about Namek thanks to Nappa. Here, nobody knows about that.Piccolo and Kami didn't know they were namekians. So, how could they know about Namek?
In canon DBZ, the Saiyans and Frieza found out about the dragon balls because Piccolo was talking to the dying Raditz, and that conversation was transmitted to the Saiyans and Frieza via Raditz's scouter. In this universe, that conversation never happened, so the Saiyans and Frieza don't know about the dragon balls, and therefore wouldn't target planet Namek. During the years that Gohan spent with the Saiyans, the remaining Z fighters could have traveled to Namek and borrowed their dragon balls to revive Goku and Piccolo.
But I feel like the author wouldn't write it this way XD
Nobody, here, know about Namek. They knew about Namek thanks to Nappa. Here, nobody knows about that.Piccolo and Kami didn't know they were namekians. So, how could they know about Namek?
Yeah, I realized that too. The bad guys knew about the dragon balls thanks to Piccolo, and the good guys knew about Namek thanks to Nappa. I was just thinking if Mr. Popo knew something, since he knew where Kami's spaceship was. But even Kami forgot his origin, so Popo likely knew nothing. 1 رد (ردود)
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I wonder how Gohan/Nasu will react if he goes to Earth and meet his mother Chichi again. Theoretically, Goku could have been revived on Earth too.
In canon DBZ, the Saiyans and Frieza found out about the dragon balls because Piccolo was talking to the dying Raditz, and that conversation was transmitted to the Saiyans and Frieza via Raditz's scouter. In this universe, that conversation never happened, so the Saiyans and Frieza don't know about the dragon balls, and therefore wouldn't target planet Namek. During the years that Gohan spent with the Saiyans, the remaining Z fighters could have traveled to Namek and borrowed their dragon balls to revive Goku and Piccolo.
But I feel like the author wouldn't write it this way XD 1 رد (ردود)
Saigo no Son page 24
In canon DBZ, the Saiyans and Frieza found out about the dragon balls because Piccolo was talking to the dying Raditz, and that conversation was transmitted to the Saiyans and Frieza via Raditz's scouter. In this universe, that conversation never happened, so the Saiyans and Frieza don't know about the dragon balls, and therefore wouldn't target planet Namek. During the years that Gohan spent with the Saiyans, the remaining Z fighters could have traveled to Namek and borrowed their dragon balls to revive Goku and Piccolo.
But I feel like the author wouldn't write it this way XD 1 رد (ردود)
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Gohan would grow stronger than Vegeta soon, considering how powerful Gohan was as a toddler, and the fact that this Vegeta doesn't have Goku as a motivation to get stronger.
But someone insecure and calculating like Vegeta wouldn't allow any Saiyan to be stronger than him. They may try to kill each other in the future. Vegeta will want to kill Gohan because he threatens his position as the most powerful Saiyan, and Gohan will want to kill Vegeta (along with Nappa and Raditz) to avenge his father.
Saigo no Son page 22
But someone insecure and calculating like Vegeta wouldn't allow any Saiyan to be stronger than him. They may try to kill each other in the future. Vegeta will want to kill Gohan because he threatens his position as the most powerful Saiyan, and Gohan will want to kill Vegeta (along with Nappa and Raditz) to avenge his father.
DestroyerOfVegetards
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Matches with the most beautiful and satisfying combat:
Goku vs Vegeta
Goku vs Uub
Vegito vs Broly
These guys really deserve some awards.
DB Multiverse page 2454
Goku vs Vegeta
Goku vs Uub
Vegito vs Broly
These guys really deserve some awards.
DestroyerOfVegetards
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Either Broly's bursting out of Buu, or Gogeta will blast Buu to dust only to find out Broly is unharmed and was wearing Buu like a skin.
Lack of communication between the good guys, and this desperate plan to beat Broly... lol. I won't even feel bad for the heroes in this story if they lose.
DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 64
Lack of communication between the good guys, and this desperate plan to beat Broly... lol. I won't even feel bad for the heroes in this story if they lose.
DestroyerOfVegetards
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If Vegito's gonna rampage now, Gast would be too exhausted to use his magic to stop him. Perfect chance to snap.
DB Multiverse page 2451
DestroyerOfVegetards
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Xyllas كان يقول:
I was quite hoping that Bra would be willing to help XXI in his fight as his summon aka offer her services. Or that he would force her to do so. Either way guess that's fine but a bit weird exchange
I had really hoped for a more evil bra in the next arc after XXI wins. Being evil fits to bra at this point
I had really hoped for a more evil bra in the next arc after XXI wins. Being evil fits to bra at this point
No way Bra's gonna turn evil again, not after all that talk no jutsu after she was free from Babidi's spell. But she may do something unwise and cause troubles, despite having good intention. I don't think approaching a suspicious "person" like XXI without letting her friends know was a good idea. She wanted to negotiate with XXI, but she didn't even need too negotiate. I surely hope she knows that this is too good to be real, a favor from someone who can control evil.
DestroyerOfVegetards
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Yeah, trying to make a deal with evil without discussing it with your group first. Typical trope.
He just summoned a pure evil being (Janemba) in front of everyone. Even if Bra doesn't think XXI is evil, at least she should realize that this old guy is sus af.
I've never hated Bra, although a lot of readers seem to have a strong dislike for her character. I get a feeling I may start hating her soon XD 1 رد (ردود)
DB Multiverse page 2449
He just summoned a pure evil being (Janemba) in front of everyone. Even if Bra doesn't think XXI is evil, at least she should realize that this old guy is sus af.
I've never hated Bra, although a lot of readers seem to have a strong dislike for her character. I get a feeling I may start hating her soon XD 1 رد (ردود)
DestroyerOfVegetards
30 كانون الثاني
Can Gast help the other fighters to "unlock" more of their potentials? Like Guru did to Krillin and Gohan during the Namek saga?
Gast is a fusion of Nail, Guru, and other Namekians. He should have access to their abilities.
DB Multiverse page 2448
Gast is a fusion of Nail, Guru, and other Namekians. He should have access to their abilities.
DestroyerOfVegetards
29 كانون الثاني
Vault756 كان يقول:
DestroyerOfVegetards was saying: There go all of the theories about Gast having his soul eaten or suffering permanent damage.
It seems like XXI needs some time to recharge after he used that black smoke form, that's why he asked if there would be a break between semifinal and final. Or maybe he needs time to recover Janemba or prepare whatever other avatars.
I don't think he has Janemba anymore. Gast didn't "kill" Janemba, he purified it. Even if XXI reabsorbed the kid that kid isn't Janemba. XXI has likely been permanently weakened from losing Janemba here, which is why he's so pissy from not being able to absorb Gast. He needed to replace that energy he lost. It's clear that XXI is multiple people, probably 21 of them given the name, but he isn't like Buu or even Cell in this regard. All of the beings that comprise XXI still exist. Losing Janemba means losing a lot of energy.
It seems like XXI needs some time to recharge after he used that black smoke form, that's why he asked if there would be a break between semifinal and final. Or maybe he needs time to recover Janemba or prepare whatever other avatars.
I don't think he has Janemba anymore. Gast didn't "kill" Janemba, he purified it. Even if XXI reabsorbed the kid that kid isn't Janemba. XXI has likely been permanently weakened from losing Janemba here, which is why he's so pissy from not being able to absorb Gast. He needed to replace that energy he lost. It's clear that XXI is multiple people, probably 21 of them given the name, but he isn't like Buu or even Cell in this regard. All of the beings that comprise XXI still exist. Losing Janemba means losing a lot of energy.
That's an interesting thought. And except for Android 18, all of XXI's opponents were fusions (Vegito, Gast, and Zen Buu. Each of them was made from two or more beings).
DestroyerOfVegetards
27 كانون الثاني
BullShark كان يقول:
OMG!!! Stop with the "XII is gonna get disqualified". It's not gonna happen. Let it go!
And regarding a way that Goku can win is simple. Just charge to the SS zero state right before the start of the match and when the match starts hit XII really hard, really fast.
And regarding a way that Goku can win is simple. Just charge to the SS zero state right before the start of the match and when the match starts hit XII really hard, really fast.
Hit XXI really hard, really fast when the match starts? Zen Buu did it.
DestroyerOfVegetards
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There go all of the theories about Gast having his soul eaten or suffering permanent damage.
It seems like XXI needs some time to recharge after he used that black smoke form, that's why he asked if there would be a break between semifinal and final. Or maybe he needs time to recover Janemba or prepare whatever other avatars. 1 رد (ردود)
DB Multiverse page 2447
It seems like XXI needs some time to recharge after he used that black smoke form, that's why he asked if there would be a break between semifinal and final. Or maybe he needs time to recover Janemba or prepare whatever other avatars. 1 رد (ردود)
DestroyerOfVegetards
26 كانون الثاني
Yes كان يقول:
Damn, Gast is not looking too good there...
Think XXI was hoping to eat Gast to gain his abilities but since he was unable to digest him fully and only got 10%, his plan to try and use that techique to nuke Goku's strength is out(not sure if it would even work on ssj0).
Also considering Nappa almost got Frieza disqualified by trying to get him to attack him after he forfeited.. Could see him getting disqualified...
Think XXI was hoping to eat Gast to gain his abilities but since he was unable to digest him fully and only got 10%, his plan to try and use that techique to nuke Goku's strength is out(not sure if it would even work on ssj0).
Also considering Nappa almost got Frieza disqualified by trying to get him to attack him after he forfeited.. Could see him getting disqualified...
Yeah, I had the same thought. If XXI, like Buu, can gain the special powers / abilities of the people he consumed, then surely XXI would gain some OP magic after consuming Gast, especially the magic that Gast used to subdue Vegito and capture Zen Buu earlier.
If XXI is going to consume the multiverse, then he will have to fight powerful beings like Vegito and Buu. And unlike in the tournament where he can take advantage of the 30-sec rule to "win" against them, he will have to fight them to the death. So having access to Gast's magic would be useful in a fight against Vegito and/or Zen Buu.
Beerus and Whis made a cameo appearance on page 1164, I wonder how XXI would deal with those two if he plans to consume their universe, although they likely will never appear again in DBM. 1 رد (ردود)
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Well, he's helping Trunks to fight Black, so he's not interfering in an affair between mortals, but he's interfering in an affair between a god (Black) and a mortal (Trunks). Basically he's trying to stop another god (himself from another timeline) from interfering with the lives of mortals. And he shouldn't be punished for this. 1 رد (ردود)