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If he froze time, the androids should still be active and they have been boosted somewhat
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iron leaf was saying:
A brief heads-up on rule #13 for all users. It seems we have some mind readers in the comments section again. Let's please stick to our own opinions. We don't know what other people think unless it's communicated publicly.
People grumble why content for (approx)10 pages wasn't squeezed into a single page.
Don't expect a complete chapter when we have Publish-Day on DBM. It's always only one page.
Self designated tournament police. I think that's how the DB Canon police see themselves, telling people what is and isn't allowed in a fanfic. xD
People grumble why content for (approx)10 pages wasn't squeezed into a single page.
Don't expect a complete chapter when we have Publish-Day on DBM. It's always only one page.
Self designated tournament police. I think that's how the DB Canon police see themselves, telling people what is and isn't allowed in a fanfic. xD
I can't speak for others who complain about the content, especially when you say it is still one page per day thing. But I could say is precisely the one page per -designated- day what could make it more questionable the choice of a gag over insightful reactions/interactions. 1 Replie(s)
jonathan_vik was saying:
So, I guess Vegito doesn't really care that Goku lost in the cheapest way possible. It's amazing how much that's been glossed over. No one is asking for a refund or anything.
Character development is not the specialty here. There had been a lot of emphasis on Vegetto's stance regarding magic and "cheap tricks" but yeah now that got overlooked lol cause gag "wishes for food" was deemed better for story I guess 2 Replie(s)
Kharn was saying:
Ropalme1914 was saying: Kharn was saying: After all these chapters (and years) it should be apparent that the tournament was only ever a pretext to bring all the characters from the manga back and play a role in a story with way higher stakes than "winning a tournament".
It doesn't really matter there's more story to tell after this - this still is a climax the story has been building up since the beginning. Saving the single worst fight in the tournament to the finals is just a bad storytelling. Also, are we really playing the card of "the tournament wasn't the actual point of the story!" After literal 17 years of tournament story being told? The site having a dedicated section to the tournament? There being special news on the "grand finals" beginning soon before it released? Being the final destination or not, the tournament is the most iconic part of this webcomic.
Seems like a childish take imo.
Also, pretty wild that people are complaining about a 17 years spanning free comic.
People need to grow up.
It doesn't really matter there's more story to tell after this - this still is a climax the story has been building up since the beginning. Saving the single worst fight in the tournament to the finals is just a bad storytelling. Also, are we really playing the card of "the tournament wasn't the actual point of the story!" After literal 17 years of tournament story being told? The site having a dedicated section to the tournament? There being special news on the "grand finals" beginning soon before it released? Being the final destination or not, the tournament is the most iconic part of this webcomic.
Seems like a childish take imo.
Also, pretty wild that people are complaining about a 17 years spanning free comic.
People need to grow up.
They did lol
Been 17 years like you said. After which point do you think one shouldn't complain anymore? After 2 years?
South_Ferry was saying:
let's be real, we ALL expected goku to be one shotted instantly,
Unless 'ALL' means something different for you, then no lol
CompactCoven was saying:
ZenBuu was saying: But you do realize, that this here is all for free to read, right? That's a huge difference to the examples that you named. If you payed actual money for DBM here, I could understand being angry to a certain extent. You payed for something, so you have expectations. That's totally fine and understandable. Though you don't pay money to read DBM. It's all freely available to read here, for everyone worldwide. No paywall, nothing. And some people here just go way overboard with their emotions and simply don't know when to stop. That's a fact.
I said it dozens of times in the past already. No, it doesn't shield it completely from criticism, please stop repeating this nonsense all the time, guys. BUT it's the way said criticism is delivered. You (I'm not talking about you specifically, people who I mention probably know I mean them...) don't have to be a mean asshole while expressing your disappointment. That's a fine line that people cross pretty easily.
I do really wish we could support the comic financially on like a patreon or something, not for any rights to complain, just cause the art has improved a lot over the years and it'd be nice to be able to tangibly give back
Although obviously I know that'd be really really dangerous to accept money for this comic due to copyright and everything
I said it dozens of times in the past already. No, it doesn't shield it completely from criticism, please stop repeating this nonsense all the time, guys. BUT it's the way said criticism is delivered. You (I'm not talking about you specifically, people who I mention probably know I mean them...) don't have to be a mean asshole while expressing your disappointment. That's a fine line that people cross pretty easily.
I do really wish we could support the comic financially on like a patreon or something, not for any rights to complain, just cause the art has improved a lot over the years and it'd be nice to be able to tangibly give back
Although obviously I know that'd be really really dangerous to accept money for this comic due to copyright and everything
You could support Asura. A link was submitted some time ago for other projects. 1 Replie(s)
Wonder if the fact that Piccolo was able to sense the IKL attack is connected to Bardock's vision where he tells Bra and Vegeta that his will is keeping them alive. Might be a GT homage (lol) where both Piccolos coordinate and block the wave
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I dont get ppls disappointment lol been saying the strongest thing going on here is the art
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The font looks a bit different. Not sure if this means is a premonition like Bardock's visions or just a change in font
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iron leaf was saying:
Interesting detail. XXI counts in years, not minutes. The paneling looks cool on this page. You could bring that in more often. And nice to see Eleim for a change.
Kinda dumb imo bc years is an earth measurement. Anyone from a different planet/galaxy/universe won't know what 'years' mean to us. But whatever is what we use and this is something kinda consistent even in Hollywood movies 5 Replie(s)
Is gonna be something like the power of a super saiyan on top of a super saiyan lmao
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happywarrior99 was saying:
I think that it seems like that whether U1 South Kaioshin is possessed by U15 I'K'L or not possessed by U15 I'K'L, U1 South Kaioshin is probably still going to become one of the most hated DBM characters anyway.
SSJ2 Your Nick was saying: Too bad there's no Buu tier Androids.U17 Cell is an artificial being who after becoming Perfect Cell also has all of the same cybernetic implants that those two Androids he absorbed have, thus it is obvious that U17 Cell faked getting frozen in time by U15 I'K'L.
Angry_Bear_MD was saying: Not sure if it's been answered but Is the "latest page" button gone for others at the home page?Yes. The "latest page" button is gone at the home page for some reason.
SSJ2 Your Nick was saying: Too bad there's no Buu tier Androids.U17 Cell is an artificial being who after becoming Perfect Cell also has all of the same cybernetic implants that those two Androids he absorbed have, thus it is obvious that U17 Cell faked getting frozen in time by U15 I'K'L.
Angry_Bear_MD was saying: Not sure if it's been answered but Is the "latest page" button gone for others at the home page?Yes. The "latest page" button is gone at the home page for some reason.
My brother in Christ, did you not watch DBZ? Cell was bred... not made like 17, 18 etc. He is organic. Did you not see him regrow limbs?
FearfulDivine was saying:
I don't think ANYONE was expecting this
You mean after the first page had IKL death with the exact same words??
Yawn, South Kai didnt let Old Kai so much make 2 sentences but chose to listened and believed one dude that tried to beat him. Perfect sense
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Yamcha and Tien were both immune to magic cause they were Androids. Basically plot device to not stand in XXI's way
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p4ran0id was saying:
BTW why are they even called south, north etc. Anyone ever thought how stupid it is at all? The universe is not flat, it's 3D (well it's 4d but let's keep physic at school)
3d can't have South North etc, it needs more coordinates XD
3d can't have South North etc, it needs more coordinates XD
Blame Toriyama for that one. When space is involved, usually logic and physics gets checked at the entrance. If you watched Avengers Endgame, everyone keeps referencing "4 years". What is "4 years" to an out of Earth alien????
iron leaf was saying:
@zero logic
I don't want to be a spoilsport, but your criticism specific to South Kaioshin would apply to a lot of characters from DBM.
U1 Dai Kaioshin, U3 Bardock, U4 Buu, U8 Ginyu, U9 Yamcha, U10 Vegeta, U13 Kakarot, U16 Vegetto, etc.
Deliberately with different experiences and lives than the ones we know from the original. Maybe DBM and the theme of familiar (but underrepresented) characters from DB/Z being reintroduced with a new spin isn't for you. Not every story and its premise has to appeal to everyone.
I don't want to be a spoilsport, but your criticism specific to South Kaioshin would apply to a lot of characters from DBM.
U1 Dai Kaioshin, U3 Bardock, U4 Buu, U8 Ginyu, U9 Yamcha, U10 Vegeta, U13 Kakarot, U16 Vegetto, etc.
Deliberately with different experiences and lives than the ones we know from the original. Maybe DBM and the theme of familiar (but underrepresented) characters from DB/Z being reintroduced with a new spin isn't for you. Not every story and its premise has to appeal to everyone.
There is certain margins to work with when it comes to characters. Like Supreme Kai (the fat one) wasnt talked much on manga or anime (DBZ), however as much as you can choose to write him in a certain way, it should still be within a supreme God. Is not an excuse to have him say, making drugs and selling them across the galaxy, it wouldn't fit what he is supposed to be. So, while you can have some freedom with the whole multiverse shtick, at what point does it make the character not resemble that character? Imagine a good Frieza 1 Replie(s)
CompactCoven was saying:
zero logic was saying: CompactCoven was saying: zero logic was saying: Serpent God was saying: Tengu was saying: South Kai is so out of character here, he is not Zamasu!
The kaioshins killed baby broly without second thoughts.
Buddy that only happened in this series, wrote by the same writer who is behind this... so literally out of character consistently.
It's in the main DBM continuity
How does that contradict what I said????? Please re read my previous message outloud if needed
I assumed you meant it was out of character for the DBM since there's no depiction of the South Kai in the main canon, and is impossible to depict as out of character, and has also lived through a completely different history from the main timeline
If your main point is that they depicted South Kai out of character from his main depiction, then I'll just point out he has no depiction in canon besides "He lost to Buu" *(His anime only fight is noncanon according to the FAQ)*. What part of his character did they portray wrong?
The kaioshins killed baby broly without second thoughts.
Buddy that only happened in this series, wrote by the same writer who is behind this... so literally out of character consistently.
It's in the main DBM continuity
How does that contradict what I said????? Please re read my previous message outloud if needed
I assumed you meant it was out of character for the DBM since there's no depiction of the South Kai in the main canon, and is impossible to depict as out of character, and has also lived through a completely different history from the main timeline
If your main point is that they depicted South Kai out of character from his main depiction, then I'll just point out he has no depiction in canon besides "He lost to Buu" *(His anime only fight is noncanon according to the FAQ)*. What part of his character did they portray wrong?
Perhaps the fact that they are gods looking out to preserve life (as said on DBZ and DBS). If you think it is appropriate or logical for a Kai to beat another Kai to death... then this plot is for you I guess 1 Replie(s)
CompactCoven was saying:
zero logic was saying: Serpent God was saying: Tengu was saying: South Kai is so out of character here, he is not Zamasu!
The kaioshins killed baby broly without second thoughts.
Buddy that only happened in this series, wrote by the same writer who is behind this... so literally out of character consistently.
It's in the main DBM continuity
The kaioshins killed baby broly without second thoughts.
Buddy that only happened in this series, wrote by the same writer who is behind this... so literally out of character consistently.
It's in the main DBM continuity
How does that contradict what I said????? Please re read my previous message outloud if needed 1 Replie(s)
Serpent God was saying:
Tengu was saying: South Kai is so out of character here, he is not Zamasu!
The kaioshins killed baby broly without second thoughts.
The kaioshins killed baby broly without second thoughts.
Buddy that only happened in this series, wrote by the same writer who is behind this... so literally out of character consistently.
Not to mention, a universal threat out there =/= someone allegedly "plotting" against a participant on a tournament... how do you even compare the two events really 2 Replie(s)
Tengu was saying:
South Kai is so out of character here, he is not Zamasu!
You could say that about a lot of characters here... 2 Replie(s)
arkturas was saying:
Raditz literally had a far higher power level than Goku did with much less training. He should have a lot of potential
Radditz underwent actual saiyan training and far more battles than kid Goku. Even 4 year old Gohan had surpassed a trained Radditz LOL
He is a bum 1 Replie(s)
supersaiyan2kakarot was saying:
Stronger than gohan? Raditz, I'm still hoping your at least ssj3 tier.
Lol wut I wouldn't put him stronger than Frieza lmao
Damian Qualshy was saying:
I don't know what to think about the eyes on South here. Is it indicative of something?
Also, WHAT A HIPOCRYTE! This entire damn tournament was influencing the destinies of all the universes!
Also, WHAT A HIPOCRYTE! This entire damn tournament was influencing the destinies of all the universes!
I wouldn't call the character a hypocrite necessarily. I just think is inconsistent characterization 1 Replie(s)
Gohan was saying:
He's doing what Babidi did but better.
What makes you say so? Babidi had control of them against their will (some broke free ok but generally speaking it works). XXI way is "convincing" them with tricks. They can surely choose not to obey if they decide so. Also, they get to see his thoughts and memories, that is rule 101 of villains to never disclose your cards out there 1 Replie(s)
How can he lose... he has a cheating wishlist at his disposal...
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iron leaf was saying:
Vegetto must be really hungry if he's actually considering eating this.
Who drew that? Art looks good 1 Replie(s)
iron leaf was saying:
There will be another special with U7 Cell and Gast. The previous special just ended with Cell demonstrating his strength by powering up infront of Gast.
Are you sure? 1 Replie(s)
King Kindred was saying:
Zefarg was saying: No Frost Demon DNA, but MF is cocky as hell still...
Vegeta's genes carrying I guess, even tho the superiority talk of this kind is more so Frieza's thing
Nope. This is definitely from Vegeta and his proclamations of Saiyans being the ultimate Saiyan race, his whole Elite vs low class thing, and believing he was the Super Saiyan.
Frieza didn't care to flaunt his strength or superiority. He was just a specist.
Vegeta's genes carrying I guess, even tho the superiority talk of this kind is more so Frieza's thing
Nope. This is definitely from Vegeta and his proclamations of Saiyans being the ultimate Saiyan race, his whole Elite vs low class thing, and believing he was the Super Saiyan.
Frieza didn't care to flaunt his strength or superiority. He was just a specist.
Frieza only hated on Saiyans cause they looked like caveman to him. He never said anything consistent to other races.
Someone is about to get humbled again lol and I don't mean Cell necessarily
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CornBreadtm was saying:
Why wouldn't Androids be hurt by nukes? They aren't aliens or biomutants or something. Just flesh, blood and machinery depending on the type. Some are just pure machinery. They are designed by Toriyama based on the Androids from the Terminator films. Meaning the same rules would apply, maybe to a higher degree. A pipe bomb in the joints can blow them apart but not destroy them completely.
So a nuke would disable them. Maybe leave them in quite a few pieces. Some may continue to function.
The first Android we saw destroyed, was done so with a "Big Bang" attack for a reason. It goes BOOM.
Also I don't know why people are talking about Freeza, he's not even in this story! But no a nuke wouldn't kill Freeza. He was still alive even when Trunks chopped him into pieces, Trunk had to finish him off with a blast to kill him. Freeza is second hardest character in the series to kill with Majin Buu taking the first spot. Cell has a weak spot that makes him fodder, where Freeza and Buu need to be atomized.
So a nuke would disable them. Maybe leave them in quite a few pieces. Some may continue to function.
The first Android we saw destroyed, was done so with a "Big Bang" attack for a reason. It goes BOOM.
Also I don't know why people are talking about Freeza, he's not even in this story! But no a nuke wouldn't kill Freeza. He was still alive even when Trunks chopped him into pieces, Trunk had to finish him off with a blast to kill him. Freeza is second hardest character in the series to kill with Majin Buu taking the first spot. Cell has a weak spot that makes him fodder, where Freeza and Buu need to be atomized.
Maybe because they have tanked attacks that can blow up planets like nothing. Last time I check, the most powerful nuke can't even blow up a whole country. You fill in the blanks
Decends was saying:
thebritwriter was saying: Dislpay name was saying: Decends was saying: zero logic was saying: Yall think Frieza saga Frieza would die to a nuclear bomb???
I suppose it would depend how many kilotons or megatons and if it was Fission (splitting atom) or Fusion (combining atoms). I feel like a significant enough fusion one might hurt or kill Frieza since its basically harnessing the heat and energy of a Star for a moment and I don't think Frieza has show anything to suggest he can withstand those temperatures
You do bring up a good point, the fact that the explosion is point-blank makes it a lot more dangerous potentially than a simple ki explosion which seemingly gives an equal spread of damage. Even then though, i'd be surprised if this explosion killed or even significantly weakened the cyborg.
Frieza survived destruction of namek, he even survived nuking earth in RoF.
He has two unique traits in the series, being very resilient (even for his species as Cold just died to a single shot by Trunks) and being able to survive in space.
Being a tad controversial but we know saiyan’s can’t withstand extreme heat (or core of the earth shown in super) have to hold their breath underwater and can’t survive in space. It’s not unreasonable a nuke head on would do the job of killing a saiyan because in the first few moments of detonation the temperature is several times hotter then the sun from 1 megaton. So nukes can do the job if you want to apply hard science (though this was brief research via google search. I’m not a scientist!)
But if this was a megaton nuke then everyone on the ground is very much dead.
However this battle isn’t taking itself seriously so we just roll with assumpation that it’s a very clean and self contained bomb.
To continue the discussion, I don't doubt Frieza would withstand the force or even the radiation of the Thermonuclear device in question thanks to his feat of surviving destruction of Namek. I don't know about surviving the heat from said explosion. I don't think the explosion of a planet is generating a temperature of approximately 100 million Degrees Celsius. After all, cooler couldn't handle to surface temperature of our own Sun, which is cooler than the epicenter of a Thermonuclear bomb, when Goku shoved him into it with the Kamehameha. And we're talking about Namek Frieza who was weaker than 5th form Cooler
I suppose it would depend how many kilotons or megatons and if it was Fission (splitting atom) or Fusion (combining atoms). I feel like a significant enough fusion one might hurt or kill Frieza since its basically harnessing the heat and energy of a Star for a moment and I don't think Frieza has show anything to suggest he can withstand those temperatures
You do bring up a good point, the fact that the explosion is point-blank makes it a lot more dangerous potentially than a simple ki explosion which seemingly gives an equal spread of damage. Even then though, i'd be surprised if this explosion killed or even significantly weakened the cyborg.
Frieza survived destruction of namek, he even survived nuking earth in RoF.
He has two unique traits in the series, being very resilient (even for his species as Cold just died to a single shot by Trunks) and being able to survive in space.
Being a tad controversial but we know saiyan’s can’t withstand extreme heat (or core of the earth shown in super) have to hold their breath underwater and can’t survive in space. It’s not unreasonable a nuke head on would do the job of killing a saiyan because in the first few moments of detonation the temperature is several times hotter then the sun from 1 megaton. So nukes can do the job if you want to apply hard science (though this was brief research via google search. I’m not a scientist!)
But if this was a megaton nuke then everyone on the ground is very much dead.
However this battle isn’t taking itself seriously so we just roll with assumpation that it’s a very clean and self contained bomb.
To continue the discussion, I don't doubt Frieza would withstand the force or even the radiation of the Thermonuclear device in question thanks to his feat of surviving destruction of Namek. I don't know about surviving the heat from said explosion. I don't think the explosion of a planet is generating a temperature of approximately 100 million Degrees Celsius. After all, cooler couldn't handle to surface temperature of our own Sun, which is cooler than the epicenter of a Thermonuclear bomb, when Goku shoved him into it with the Kamehameha. And we're talking about Namek Frieza who was weaker than 5th form Cooler
Lol wut. Stars (including our own sun) are giant H bombs. You are telling me one fusion > thousands of fusions happening every second??? I think you should revise your physics 1 Replie(s)
Let's put it this way. At the start of DBZ Vegeta had the power to destroy Earth with his Galick Gun. That is destroying one whole planet. Do you think Androids would be harmed by that Galick Gun from start of DBZ Vegeta???
From a different point, do you see a nuke destroying a planet?? If you sent a missile to Earth's moon with a nuke, do you think the moon is gone??? 1 Replie(s)
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From a different point, do you see a nuke destroying a planet?? If you sent a missile to Earth's moon with a nuke, do you think the moon is gone??? 1 Replie(s)
Yall think Frieza saga Frieza would die to a nuclear bomb???
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Majin Wasabi was saying:
zero logic was saying: But why couldn't you release specials separately then, like we have other side stories simultaneously?
The way I see it, all the specials are canon and add something to the background or overall main story. The side stories, on the other hand, are just that—extra, non-DBM canon stories for additional content. Or at least, that's how I see it.
The way I see it, all the specials are canon and add something to the background or overall main story. The side stories, on the other hand, are just that—extra, non-DBM canon stories for additional content. Or at least, that's how I see it.
Yeah but those stories Canon or not, don't occur simultaneously, no reason to interrupt one for the other when they could have been released at the same time really.
Salagir was saying:
iron leaf was saying: The specials are there so that Asura has enough buffer to draw the main chapters.
Thanks for this warning, but please stop repeating this sentence.
The specials aren’t there "to give time to Asura". They never were.
Thanks for this warning, but please stop repeating this sentence.
The specials aren’t there "to give time to Asura". They never were.
This is so funny for different reasons.
But why couldn't you release specials separately then, like we have other side stories simultaneously? 1 Replie(s)
nonno was saying:
Worst story ever.
WORD. Idk who came up with this lmao
GoRootYT was saying:
zero logic was saying: This makes no sense. Goku "has no apparent weaknesses" but Vegito did????
Well, Vegito weaknesses is that he is to cocky. He underestimated the opponent, and lost. Goku wont give him a chance now.
Well, Vegito weaknesses is that he is to cocky. He underestimated the opponent, and lost. Goku wont give him a chance now.
ZZZ a humble Vegito would have still lost to the teleport trick. He didn't know what was happening and reacted the same as if he wasn't cocky...
This makes no sense. Goku "has no apparent weaknesses" but Vegito did????
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Why does he need the other Dragon Balls when he got his own...
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iron leaf was saying:
zero logic was saying: iron leaf was saying: I would like to encourage everyone not to be overly emotional in their comments. This leads far too often to rule-breaking, which is then deleted.
Ah the typical dilemma here in DBM. If you just focus on the tournament fights, some people get tired of it. If there are (rare) scenes with typical OG humor, which is supposedly always demanded in this overly serious fan manga, some people also get tired of it.
Quite simply. Some people can't handle the concept of a webcomic. They should only visit when complete chapters are finished.
If you take a step back and look at it from the perspective of someone who reads the entire chapter in one sitting once all the pages are published, you realize that this award ceremony is a first-time original way to generate a break between tournament fights (compared to lunch or sleep breaks at night). These Honorable Mentions are something different. And of course you need a narrative break between the last two fights due to XXI's unique way of getting information about his enemies.
There are different ways to do that without causing ppl to snooze. Last time we got any character commenting about what happened was Bra on Gast's fight. Typically, if you check other fights, different characters make comments (U13 Vegeta/Kakarotto, Vegetto, Piccolo, Trunks/Potential, etc). The last semifinal just ended and we got no worthy reaction from anyone. It went straight into gag manga territory for no reason. Like I said before, this could have easily been a special with 20+ pages of awards.You forget that characters commenting on a fight and a complete break from tournament fights are two different things.
Let's refresh our memory a little.
First major interruption with quiet and gag elements. Chapter 7: Lunch Break. 24 pages, of which 7/8 pages actually contain the lunch break.
Second major break that didn't prioritize fights outside of the tournament. Chapter 24: A good night's sleep. 24 pages, 19 of which had nothing to do with the tournament itself. (Many foundations for future subplots are laid here)
Chapter 42 has a slightly longer interruption. 26 pages, 7 of which focus on the resurrection of people who have died in the tournament so far.
Chapter 44: Buu's escapades. 24 pages, including 11 pages of Santa Buu's nighttime adventures.
Chapter 86: Deceitful Magicians. 24 pages, 7 of which are mainly about how the tournament participants should prepare their own lunch.
And now Chapter 103. 23 pages so far, including 8 pages on this award ceremony.
Sometimes there are other interruptions in between, but they are of a different action-oriented nature. These examples show, among other things, the humorous side of DBM (rare but present). Sometimes there is no greater purpose behind it, like advancing plot or fleshing out characters, but just a desire to lighten things up with gags. Nothing new in DBM if it lasts a little longer and doesn't end after 3 pages.
Ah the typical dilemma here in DBM. If you just focus on the tournament fights, some people get tired of it. If there are (rare) scenes with typical OG humor, which is supposedly always demanded in this overly serious fan manga, some people also get tired of it.
Quite simply. Some people can't handle the concept of a webcomic. They should only visit when complete chapters are finished.
If you take a step back and look at it from the perspective of someone who reads the entire chapter in one sitting once all the pages are published, you realize that this award ceremony is a first-time original way to generate a break between tournament fights (compared to lunch or sleep breaks at night). These Honorable Mentions are something different. And of course you need a narrative break between the last two fights due to XXI's unique way of getting information about his enemies.
There are different ways to do that without causing ppl to snooze. Last time we got any character commenting about what happened was Bra on Gast's fight. Typically, if you check other fights, different characters make comments (U13 Vegeta/Kakarotto, Vegetto, Piccolo, Trunks/Potential, etc). The last semifinal just ended and we got no worthy reaction from anyone. It went straight into gag manga territory for no reason. Like I said before, this could have easily been a special with 20+ pages of awards.You forget that characters commenting on a fight and a complete break from tournament fights are two different things.
Let's refresh our memory a little.
First major interruption with quiet and gag elements. Chapter 7: Lunch Break. 24 pages, of which 7/8 pages actually contain the lunch break.
Second major break that didn't prioritize fights outside of the tournament. Chapter 24: A good night's sleep. 24 pages, 19 of which had nothing to do with the tournament itself. (Many foundations for future subplots are laid here)
Chapter 42 has a slightly longer interruption. 26 pages, 7 of which focus on the resurrection of people who have died in the tournament so far.
Chapter 44: Buu's escapades. 24 pages, including 11 pages of Santa Buu's nighttime adventures.
Chapter 86: Deceitful Magicians. 24 pages, 7 of which are mainly about how the tournament participants should prepare their own lunch.
And now Chapter 103. 23 pages so far, including 8 pages on this award ceremony.
Sometimes there are other interruptions in between, but they are of a different action-oriented nature. These examples show, among other things, the humorous side of DBM (rare but present). Sometimes there is no greater purpose behind it, like advancing plot or fleshing out characters, but just a desire to lighten things up with gags. Nothing new in DBM if it lasts a little longer and doesn't end after 3 pages.
In plenty of those examples, real things happened. Like on Buu's escapades finding XXI and his companion and getting erased. The 7 pages where the characters spent time cooking was also criticized if you don't recall.
iron leaf was saying:
I would like to encourage everyone not to be overly emotional in their comments. This leads far too often to rule-breaking, which is then deleted.
Ah the typical dilemma here in DBM. If you just focus on the tournament fights, some people get tired of it. If there are (rare) scenes with typical OG humor, which is supposedly always demanded in this overly serious fan manga, some people also get tired of it.
Quite simply. Some people can't handle the concept of a webcomic. They should only visit when complete chapters are finished.
If you take a step back and look at it from the perspective of someone who reads the entire chapter in one sitting once all the pages are published, you realize that this award ceremony is a first-time original way to generate a break between tournament fights (compared to lunch or sleep breaks at night). These Honorable Mentions are something different. And of course you need a narrative break between the last two fights due to XXI's unique way of getting information about his enemies.
Ah the typical dilemma here in DBM. If you just focus on the tournament fights, some people get tired of it. If there are (rare) scenes with typical OG humor, which is supposedly always demanded in this overly serious fan manga, some people also get tired of it.
Quite simply. Some people can't handle the concept of a webcomic. They should only visit when complete chapters are finished.
If you take a step back and look at it from the perspective of someone who reads the entire chapter in one sitting once all the pages are published, you realize that this award ceremony is a first-time original way to generate a break between tournament fights (compared to lunch or sleep breaks at night). These Honorable Mentions are something different. And of course you need a narrative break between the last two fights due to XXI's unique way of getting information about his enemies.
There are different ways to do that without causing ppl to snooze. Last time we got any character commenting about what happened was Bra on Gast's fight. Typically, if you check other fights, different characters make comments (U13 Vegeta/Kakarotto, Vegetto, Piccolo, Trunks/Potential, etc). The last semifinal just ended and we got no worthy reaction from anyone. It went straight into gag manga territory for no reason. Like I said before, this could have easily been a special with 20+ pages of awards. 1 Replie(s)
Just when I thought they couldn't have a more wasteful page last time he comes up with this lmao
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If they "had to add this [award] last minute" then it should mean this is the last award. IF there was logic behind this ofc
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I keep saying, Vegetto snapping is a red herring. It won't take more than 1 chapter to resolve, some of yall got catfished for years
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XXI releasing his true self after that tip suggests me he got a portal or something to connect to U10 room, which should be empty right now. He is probably trying to eat the South Kai oh boy
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DeathToKakarot was saying:
PrimeFighter was saying: 仅是剑客 was saying: Wasn't Bra believe Janemba was weak? https://w...393.html#h_read
She really has became a clown as her father now.
Goku is better to learn from Gast and Uub instead of listening to her.
Her statement makes no sense. She's on the level of SSJ2 Vegito. How would she not be able to handle Janemba there? I just try to ignore Bra as a character in DBM cuz everything else for the most part is enjoyable
Edit: Knowing Goku, whatever advice Gast has, Goku will reject it for a good fight UNLESS he doesn't have the DBS down syndrome stigma the show likes to exercise to a disgusting degree
Even in Z he was about having a good, equal fight; gave Cell a Senzu so him and Gohan could fight on equal footing, refused to use Potara against Kid Boo because he's not a fused being anymore. Matter of fact DBS is the one series where I do recall him being given advice on how to beat an enemy, and listening to it to get the W.
She really has became a clown as her father now.
Goku is better to learn from Gast and Uub instead of listening to her.
Her statement makes no sense. She's on the level of SSJ2 Vegito. How would she not be able to handle Janemba there? I just try to ignore Bra as a character in DBM cuz everything else for the most part is enjoyable
Edit: Knowing Goku, whatever advice Gast has, Goku will reject it for a good fight UNLESS he doesn't have the DBS down syndrome stigma the show likes to exercise to a disgusting degree
Even in Z he was about having a good, equal fight; gave Cell a Senzu so him and Gohan could fight on equal footing, refused to use Potara against Kid Boo because he's not a fused being anymore. Matter of fact DBS is the one series where I do recall him being given advice on how to beat an enemy, and listening to it to get the W.
No, he did the same in OG DB on the Mutanai Baba gauntlet and on the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai (shades against Ten Shin Han's Taiyoken)
iron leaf was saying:
Gast should have used Clothes-Beam on XXI, lol.
The fact that Gast won't immediately tell everyone what XXI actually did at the end of their fight makes me suspect that Gast himself is up to something. Something he doesn't want the others to know yet? I'm curious, and I'm sure it won't all be revealed within a few pages.
Your nickel was saying: So is Gast not going to tell Goku all the details he saw?Maybe he will, later. One Varga confirmed earlier that there will be a break until the final. We still have enough pages in this chapter.
zero logic was saying: I think Bra's assessment of Janemba is very sus bc earlier during the fight she thought Janemba was easy.
Personally, I think she woulda killed it no problem, she is leagues beyond Gohan after all.Son Bra is simply bipolar since the passive-phrase.
The fact that Gast won't immediately tell everyone what XXI actually did at the end of their fight makes me suspect that Gast himself is up to something. Something he doesn't want the others to know yet? I'm curious, and I'm sure it won't all be revealed within a few pages.
Your nickel was saying: So is Gast not going to tell Goku all the details he saw?Maybe he will, later. One Varga confirmed earlier that there will be a break until the final. We still have enough pages in this chapter.
zero logic was saying: I think Bra's assessment of Janemba is very sus bc earlier during the fight she thought Janemba was easy.
Personally, I think she woulda killed it no problem, she is leagues beyond Gohan after all.Son Bra is simply bipolar since the passive-phrase.
What I pointed out and bipolar syndrome are VERY different things...
I think Bra's assessment of Janemba is very sus bc earlier during the fight she thought Janemba was easy.
Personally, I think she woulda killed it no problem, she is leagues beyond Gohan after all. 2 Replie(s)
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Personally, I think she woulda killed it no problem, she is leagues beyond Gohan after all. 2 Replie(s)
PMC was saying:
The other thing to consider is that the technique XXI uses to consume Gast may be irreversible. Like that soul punisher Vegetto alluded to in his conversation with Ginyu-Bra. So if XII is disqualified, Gast may be permanently dead & unable to continue.
The so called soul punisher is just him going to the other world and supposedly killing the soul. I don't think that is even logical but that's what we are getting lol
ZenBuu was saying:
Shabby was saying: I love that the multiverse ending bad guy feels compelled to follow a rule.
I think that just shows how much he wants a wish from Porunga, when he has finally won the tournament. Whatever this wish might be, because he seemingly has his own set of DBs. His dragon surely must be nerfed in some way.
Also just a reminder, guys. Do not forget the title of the chapter. They are giving away awards between the semi finals and the finale. So no rampage (yet)! :D
I think that just shows how much he wants a wish from Porunga, when he has finally won the tournament. Whatever this wish might be, because he seemingly has his own set of DBs. His dragon surely must be nerfed in some way.
Also just a reminder, guys. Do not forget the title of the chapter. They are giving away awards between the semi finals and the finale. So no rampage (yet)! :D
I feel like the whole "vegetto rampage" is just a red herring that won't actually take that much to resolve. For once, organizers can just send him home like they did with Buu. 1 Replie(s)
I wonder if Gast could have talked to either Piccolo or the Namek organizers telepathically
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So he is basically Moro from DBS but with a bit more hax. OK
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foiopaulo was saying:
I'm calling it: they are both invisible, and will lose. Goku will be the champion by default, Vegetto will lose his sh*t and attack.
But first we'll see XXI revolting, a fight breaking, divided into 8 parts, with 1 or 2 specials inbetween.
But first we'll see XXI revolting, a fight breaking, divided into 8 parts, with 1 or 2 specials inbetween.
That's what the title implies. Kinda makes sense bc if XXI wins here and advances, the Final will be over in 3 panels
Remember XXI can also use magic. When he sealed Buu away, it wasn't his avatar saying the spell. It was his true(?) form. And Buu said himself you need magical powers to use magical spells (pointing at the boombox)
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ZenBuu was saying:
Gast is a fucking badass man. He still has reserves? God damn... Buu was rightfully worried about him.
Also XXI somehow reminds me of a snake in the last panel.
Also XXI somehow reminds me of a snake in the last panel.
His chest kinda seems like an armor. Also Gast is HIM
It would be great writing to have Gast fake his current condition and be like SIKE let's fight for real now
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DrewSaga was saying:
zero logic was saying: DrewSaga was saying: Come on Gast, don't go down on a whimper...
MrPerson0 was saying: Goku desperately taking notes since he'll likely have to face XXI...
I would too if I was Goku. If he can't figure XXI out then what chance does he have?
zero logic was saying: Vash was saying: I can’t see anything either.
Lol nice one. Can't Gast just IT out of the smoke?
If Goku can't sense Gast then it's possible Gast can't sense the others neither.
So? Gast is not using Goku's IT. He knows Kibito/Kai tp which doesn't need any lock. This was pointed out on the fight against Janemba
That takes greater level of focus and given the shape Gast is in, I don't think he is going to do that. Even if he did then what? Gast has to land a good attack on XXI just to even have a chance of winning.
MrPerson0 was saying: Goku desperately taking notes since he'll likely have to face XXI...
I would too if I was Goku. If he can't figure XXI out then what chance does he have?
zero logic was saying: Vash was saying: I can’t see anything either.
Lol nice one. Can't Gast just IT out of the smoke?
If Goku can't sense Gast then it's possible Gast can't sense the others neither.
So? Gast is not using Goku's IT. He knows Kibito/Kai tp which doesn't need any lock. This was pointed out on the fight against Janemba
That takes greater level of focus and given the shape Gast is in, I don't think he is going to do that. Even if he did then what? Gast has to land a good attack on XXI just to even have a chance of winning.
He could TP out of there and then use his immobilize magic move 1 Replie(s)
DrewSaga was saying:
Come on Gast, don't go down on a whimper...
MrPerson0 was saying: Goku desperately taking notes since he'll likely have to face XXI...
I would too if I was Goku. If he can't figure XXI out then what chance does he have?
zero logic was saying: Vash was saying: I can’t see anything either.
Lol nice one. Can't Gast just IT out of the smoke?
If Goku can't sense Gast then it's possible Gast can't sense the others neither.
MrPerson0 was saying: Goku desperately taking notes since he'll likely have to face XXI...
I would too if I was Goku. If he can't figure XXI out then what chance does he have?
zero logic was saying: Vash was saying: I can’t see anything either.
Lol nice one. Can't Gast just IT out of the smoke?
If Goku can't sense Gast then it's possible Gast can't sense the others neither.
So? Gast is not using Goku's IT. He knows Kibito/Kai tp which doesn't need any lock. This was pointed out on the fight against Janemba 2 Replie(s)
Vash was saying:
I can’t see anything either.
Lol nice one. Can't Gast just IT out of the smoke? 1 Replie(s)
If Gast goes in the next page or so I imagine XXI beats Goku with the same tech he used on Vegetto which would make him go crazy. A proper Gast/Goku final would/should take a couple of chapters to draw not be on the same.
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Shabby was saying:
What proof does Thorn need? They showed up, and got attacked. It was Krillin that saved these guys.
Plus, Gast can just read Krillin's mind and know the truth.
It's possible they killed a cyborg. Without the experience on Namek and Krillin getting his potential awakened, he's probably under 10k.
Androids may be very weak as well.
This scene is missing Mister Popo :)
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What if the cyborg they killed was Gohan!?!?
Plus, Gast can just read Krillin's mind and know the truth.
It's possible they killed a cyborg. Without the experience on Namek and Krillin getting his potential awakened, he's probably under 10k.
Androids may be very weak as well.
This scene is missing Mister Popo :)
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What if the cyborg they killed was Gohan!?!?
You know, the whole point about bringing power levels to DBZ was to show how useless they were. It's funny that almost 40 years later, people are using them for comparisons lol 3 Replie(s)
I like the new designs. And the personalities match 18 and 19 lol. Good so far
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Wonder how he fights Cell if the abdroids are still around. Unless he fought first form Cell...
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foiopaulo was saying:
We'll have only another page of this. Then, 2 minicomics and the beggining of a loooooong special about our hulking namek...
Wonder what will happen, and how long this cliffhanger will be.
My two cents? XXI true form shows up.
Wonder what will happen, and how long this cliffhanger will be.
My two cents? XXI true form shows up.
This is the last page iirc. Nov 13th is when the special starts so that means only 2 days before that and we are getting 2 minicomics before the special... 1 Replie(s)
Buu said "the only one that worried me [was Gast]". He was right
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ZenBuu was saying:
DestroyerOfVegetards was saying: Stevethebarbarian was saying: Gast Greatness was saying: So the people who assumed Gast was using Zen Buu's Dark World Lightning Magic Technique turned out to be correct...tough break, Janemba.
As for his summoner:
300 Pages Earlier https://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/page-2110.html
XII: "The techniques Buu used to defeat Gast. Give them to me."
Dark Shenron: "Those are way beyond my abilities. Such a shame...It looks like it's over for you."
You know, this kinda reveals that in terms of actual talent, Buu and Gast are both categorically on a different level from XXI. XXI gets his cheat abilities from a dragon who’s “way below” being capable of casting Buu’s magic, the same magic that Gast copied after having it used on him once.
XXI, “devourer of worlds,” would be no match for any of the top-tiers here except for his extensive planning and preparation. It’s an admirable skillset to have, but it’s proof that if push comes to shove, he can’t hang.
Obviously.
He won against Vegito and Buu by taking advantage of the 30 seconds rule. But he didn't (or couldn't) hurt neither of them. He likely won't survive a fight to the death with no time-out rule if he is not given a chance to prepare. But he's the type of villain that always prepares.
Stevethebarbarian was saying: DestroyerOfVegetards was saying:
Obviously.
He won against Vegito and Buu by taking advantage of the 30 seconds rule. But he didn't (or couldn't) hurt neither of them. He likely won't survive a fight to the death with no time-out rule if he is not given a chance to prepare. But he's the type of villain that always prepares.
It’s obvious that he’s no match in terms of raw power, but what I mean is in magic as well, his actual talent is completely mediocre. He’s probably no better than Babidi, or perhaps worse. His only advantage is caution and a wish-granting dragon.
You guys should not forget, that XXI does possess raw power for sure, otherwise he wouldn't have been able to pull off the Majin Punisher on Zen Buu, when the latter visited his apartment at night. He completely destroyed that piece of Buu, to the very last atom. That's definitely not an easy feat, that everybody can pull off... Even Buu himself was surprised at that:
Page 993.
Even Goku and Vegeta said on page 2049, that they apparently need to be at a certain level, to replicate this technique.
So XXI also has raw power, just decides to not use it for some reason.
zero logic was saying: Wait, how/when did Gast learn the technique that destroys Buu? He was dead when they used it, and the other time it was used it was by Vegeto/Bra far, far away in outer space. He hasn't seen it in the tournament. Hipe this was written properly and he somehow learned it before or something
Zen Buu showed everyone what happened in the Majin rebellion and Son Bra used the technique on Fat Buu (page 1733). That was apparently enough for Gast to replicate it. Also, Gast should be able to read minds. Or... He did know how to do it before, since he also beat Buu in his universe.
Side fact: check the other languages of this page, other than english or french! The second panel has more dark lightning bolts than here, because of an weird export error. Though I guess this will get fixed soon. Nothing much I can do here for now. :)
As for his summoner:
300 Pages Earlier https://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/page-2110.html
XII: "The techniques Buu used to defeat Gast. Give them to me."
Dark Shenron: "Those are way beyond my abilities. Such a shame...It looks like it's over for you."
You know, this kinda reveals that in terms of actual talent, Buu and Gast are both categorically on a different level from XXI. XXI gets his cheat abilities from a dragon who’s “way below” being capable of casting Buu’s magic, the same magic that Gast copied after having it used on him once.
XXI, “devourer of worlds,” would be no match for any of the top-tiers here except for his extensive planning and preparation. It’s an admirable skillset to have, but it’s proof that if push comes to shove, he can’t hang.
Obviously.
He won against Vegito and Buu by taking advantage of the 30 seconds rule. But he didn't (or couldn't) hurt neither of them. He likely won't survive a fight to the death with no time-out rule if he is not given a chance to prepare. But he's the type of villain that always prepares.
Stevethebarbarian was saying: DestroyerOfVegetards was saying:
Obviously.
He won against Vegito and Buu by taking advantage of the 30 seconds rule. But he didn't (or couldn't) hurt neither of them. He likely won't survive a fight to the death with no time-out rule if he is not given a chance to prepare. But he's the type of villain that always prepares.
It’s obvious that he’s no match in terms of raw power, but what I mean is in magic as well, his actual talent is completely mediocre. He’s probably no better than Babidi, or perhaps worse. His only advantage is caution and a wish-granting dragon.
You guys should not forget, that XXI does possess raw power for sure, otherwise he wouldn't have been able to pull off the Majin Punisher on Zen Buu, when the latter visited his apartment at night. He completely destroyed that piece of Buu, to the very last atom. That's definitely not an easy feat, that everybody can pull off... Even Buu himself was surprised at that:
Page 993.
Even Goku and Vegeta said on page 2049, that they apparently need to be at a certain level, to replicate this technique.
So XXI also has raw power, just decides to not use it for some reason.
zero logic was saying: Wait, how/when did Gast learn the technique that destroys Buu? He was dead when they used it, and the other time it was used it was by Vegeto/Bra far, far away in outer space. He hasn't seen it in the tournament. Hipe this was written properly and he somehow learned it before or something
Zen Buu showed everyone what happened in the Majin rebellion and Son Bra used the technique on Fat Buu (page 1733). That was apparently enough for Gast to replicate it. Also, Gast should be able to read minds. Or... He did know how to do it before, since he also beat Buu in his universe.
Side fact: check the other languages of this page, other than english or french! The second panel has more dark lightning bolts than here, because of an weird export error. Though I guess this will get fixed soon. Nothing much I can do here for now. :)
I missed the part where Bra used it against Fat Buu. Ok, he coulda learned it there I suppose. Defeating Kid Buu doesn't require that technique though, if you are strong enough, a ki blast should do it, like Gohan finished Cell
Wait, how/when did Gast learn the technique that destroys Buu? He was dead when they used it, and the other time it was used it was by Vegeto/Bra far, far away in outer space. He hasn't seen it in the tournament. Hipe this was written properly and he somehow learned it before or something
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Gast Greatness was saying:
So the people who assumed Gast was using Zen Buu's Dark World Lightning Magic Technique turned out to be correct...tough break, Janemba.
As for his summoner:
300 Pages Earlier https://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/page-2110.html
XII: "The techniques Buu used to defeat Gast. Give them to me."
Dark Shenron: "Those are way beyond my abilities. Such a shame...It looks like it's over for you."
As for his summoner:
300 Pages Earlier https://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/page-2110.html
XII: "The techniques Buu used to defeat Gast. Give them to me."
Dark Shenron: "Those are way beyond my abilities. Such a shame...It looks like it's over for you."
Was just about to point out that Shenron itself couldn't copy those but Gast did lol. If he can overcome magic immune beings that means you can only beat him with brute strength. My guess is that the real smoky XXI will have to show his real self and powers to beat Gast 1 Replie(s)
ZenBuu was saying:
Is that... the freaking Majin Punisher?!
Gast copies techniques left and right here, what a maniac! Is this the technique bargain sale? XD
Goku would be proud, hopefully he takes notes... ;P
Gast copies techniques left and right here, what a maniac! Is this the technique bargain sale? XD
Goku would be proud, hopefully he takes notes... ;P
The sound effect remained the same, nice detail
Menna was saying:
That's buu's move! The one that he used on Gast
Which one? He used a bunch of them. If true though, that is some sick move to learn
Gogetto was saying:
I have a feeling that as soon as gast beats janemba, xxi will do something silly to beat him. We are seeing nothing of xxi this whole time
My guess is that the "real" XXI (the shadow figure) will come out and finish him in one move/blast.
This is one of the coolest attacks in DBZ. Asura did a great job here
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iron leaf was saying:
J.I.L was saying: Why does DBM make ITS Panels so big? It looks glossier, but slowers the pacing significantly. The fighting is solid in all fairness, but the pacing is a drag.No, the pacing is incredible fast. One special technique after another. Both fighters dish it out and take it. An evidently very even match. It's rather the opposite, some people argued that DBM should have slowed down in some places so that you could dwell on a scene longer. Like with Janemba's sword, for example. My personal only weak point so far were 3 direct panels where Janemba pushes his face directly towards the reader within 5 pages (repetition).
Each attack takes about a week though. Check Gast last fireball strat. It was 3 pages from beginning to landing 1 Replie(s)
Hope we see more teleportation from Janemba, and if we do, in a more offensive way like he did to Goku. IMO that was its most broken move
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Raza was saying:
@Asura, you really are an incredible DB artist. And you have creativity in your panels, your angles, and your ability to express motion. You should be proud of yourself.
Yeah the art is definitely the highlight here!
I don't mind a two panel page but it seems this whole fight has been just 3 panels each...
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Grydon was saying:
zero logic was saying: Remember when questioning logic on a fanfic: Salagir wrote this. Just move on and enjoy the great art, certainly the plot is not the manga's forte
The plot is this manga’s forte, that’s why it’s loved by so many. It’s more than just random tranformations and fanficky writing 99% of fanfics suffer from. In lot of ways it’s much better written than even the official story, specifically DBS.
That’s why an error like this is worth questioning, that doesn’t happen too often here
The plot is this manga’s forte, that’s why it’s loved by so many. It’s more than just random tranformations and fanficky writing 99% of fanfics suffer from. In lot of ways it’s much better written than even the official story, specifically DBS.
That’s why an error like this is worth questioning, that doesn’t happen too often here
Wow, if that is your opinion, hard to change it but I like the art waaaay more than a lot of decisions taken here like Vegeto's personality, Grand Kaio's behaviour, U18's Vegeta's "growth", even the fighters selection in universes (Piccolo Daimao universe for example), plenty of stuff thst doesnt make sense 1 Replie(s)
Remember when questioning logic on a fanfic: Salagir wrote this. Just move on and enjoy the great art, certainly the plot is not the manga's forte
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Very nice page and effects
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I wonder how challenging will be for Asura to draw the special effect of Janemba's teleport. Because we haven't seen it yet and it was one of his signature moves
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IMO movie Janemba was as strong as Super Buu. Which is why SSJ3 Goku wasn't completely outclassed. The abilities made it harder to handle than it should have.
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Super Gojita 3 was saying:
Marc of The Endless was saying: See a lot of people saying SSJ3 Goku was matching or even overwhelming Super Janemba, this is not the case whatsoever. Before even creating the Dimensional Sword, we see Goku is injured and being pushed back by Janemba. Once he grabs the sword, the fight is essentially over and Goku can only run/evade until he is saved by Vegeta. All of this without even powering up, which Janemba only does in response to Gogeta's appearance. Also, SSJ3 Goku is stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks and Mystic Gohan in Toeiland, he showcases this versus Hirudegarn after Hirudegarn stomps Gotenks and Gohan. They would not defeat Janemba either, according to the movie timeline's power scaling.
DBM has the liberty to do whatever with the character, especially since Gast is fanmade and his own powers have no real consistency besides "strong." There's also the fact that Salagir has soft retconned his own scaling many times before. However strong he ends up being here, it won't have anything to do with his strength in the film. Broly being as stupid as he was in this should've clued everyone into that, honestly.
I recommend you rewatch that fight.
ssj3 goku was gaining the edge slowly as the fight went on, when it was hand to hand without any dimensional warping.
when janemba did use his powers, thats when he got the upper hand.
brute force wise, goku was winning, but thats not what determined the outcome.
DBM has the liberty to do whatever with the character, especially since Gast is fanmade and his own powers have no real consistency besides "strong." There's also the fact that Salagir has soft retconned his own scaling many times before. However strong he ends up being here, it won't have anything to do with his strength in the film. Broly being as stupid as he was in this should've clued everyone into that, honestly.
I recommend you rewatch that fight.
ssj3 goku was gaining the edge slowly as the fight went on, when it was hand to hand without any dimensional warping.
when janemba did use his powers, thats when he got the upper hand.
brute force wise, goku was winning, but thats not what determined the outcome.
Is kinda the opposite. Goku starts off strong and has the upper hand, then Janemba uses teleport and lands a ki blast then the mouth blast catches Goku off guard. Then is sword time aka GG. Even without the sword, the abilities pushed Janemba over Goku. He also didn't use his other special attacks like the shattered glass thingy 1 Replie(s)
WukongTheMighty was saying:
Madara was saying: Jenemba is like Buu, one of the characters that can be defeated only by PLOT
Janemba is a character who is practically effortless for anybody substantially above him strengthwise to beat. All the hax in the world can't help you if your opponent can just evaporate you with one punch and send you flying effortlessly with basic kiai. Gogeta disintegrates Janemba in roughly 60 seconds of screentime. And 40 seconds of that time was him just styling on him.
Like he's cool, but realistically he probably gets whooped by Ultimate Gohan AND SS3 Gotenks.
Janemba is a character who is practically effortless for anybody substantially above him strengthwise to beat. All the hax in the world can't help you if your opponent can just evaporate you with one punch and send you flying effortlessly with basic kiai. Gogeta disintegrates Janemba in roughly 60 seconds of screentime. And 40 seconds of that time was him just styling on him.
Like he's cool, but realistically he probably gets whooped by Ultimate Gohan AND SS3 Gotenks.
I disagree. Goku was doing ok until all the teleport started. Neither Gohan nor Gotenks is as experienced. If Goku got beaten before figuring it out, then so would them 1 Replie(s)
KnightHammer was saying:
Truly by how that sword works I'd be falling from my chair laughing if the dimensional waves traveled right through the shield and cut Vegito to pieces while he's still complaining about sportsmanship.
My request would be Frieza getting cut again
I don't understand how Salagir deals with movies. Supposedly movies are not canon (Gogeta, Broly, Cooler, etc), however Salagir treats Broly as canon (U16/18 dealt with him, Kaios killed him as baby, etc), same as Bojack BUT Hildegarn and Janemba are completely unknown to EVERYONE...
I know he is not the best at writing stories but still 2 Replie(s)
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I know he is not the best at writing stories but still 2 Replie(s)
I usually shit on the plot bc cmon but this is pretty cool i gotta admit
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Kor Saiyajinkami was saying:
TROLLAGIR STRIKES AGAIN!!!
He's really trolled us hard this time and unnecessarily pissed off too many people. He should've had the reveal that these events were a vision before the vision instead of afterwards. That way he wouldn't be pissing people off like he did this way and yes I know he didn't draft this chapter, but he could've requested the artist to have the reveal be before the vision instead of after it. If it was revealed before the vision, it would've let us know that this isn't actually happening so people wouldn't've responded to the events of the vision so badly or at least less people would have AND it also would've allowed people who didn't care about this fight to leave at any time of their choosing and return back later once the next chapter started.
He's really trolled us hard this time and unnecessarily pissed off too many people. He should've had the reveal that these events were a vision before the vision instead of afterwards. That way he wouldn't be pissing people off like he did this way and yes I know he didn't draft this chapter, but he could've requested the artist to have the reveal be before the vision instead of after it. If it was revealed before the vision, it would've let us know that this isn't actually happening so people wouldn't've responded to the events of the vision so badly or at least less people would have AND it also would've allowed people who didn't care about this fight to leave at any time of their choosing and return back later once the next chapter started.
I think you are giving him too much credit. What you or others may see it as trolling or a plot twist, he is actually trying to do some story telling lol. Pretty sad
Ladies and gentlemen, I present you Salagir the master plot writer LMAO
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ZenBuu was saying:
newman was saying: I see nothing but praise on this site except for the rare occasion like this when people don’t like your product.
You must see another comment section than me. Because this definitely isn't a rare occasion. ;p
You must see another comment section than me. Because this definitely isn't a rare occasion. ;p
There must be a reason (just read this page for reference lol)
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Way to go