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newman
12 5月
Even if this is real, once the good guys win, Raditz will be wished back, it’d be absolutely insane if this tournament randomly started killing people off for good. If the authorsaren’t completely spent by then, I’m sure we’d get epilogues of several, if not all, universes
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newman
7 8月
Salagir was saying:
ShadyDoorags was saying: You have this really nasty habit of attacking your audience.
Seriously, I'm the attacker there? You should re-read some comments on the page, starting by the very first.
We have an outstanding level of tolerance in moderation. I'm happy with that. I also have been on internet forums since decades and I can take much. But remember that many reader's attitude did really, and it's not a lie, turn away several professionnal cartoonists out of the project. That's how bad it is.
I tell them - and myself - to focus on the good comments, as there are many. Most DBM readers are awesome. I thank them for that. This is also the main reason for doing conventions: people face to face are soooo much nicer than on the internet.
I am guilty of lots of sarcasm in my answers, i try to work on that. I've even been impolite, sure, it happens in 16 years. But i don't think it's even close to 1% of what i've been receiving on my end.
WukongTheMighty was saying: to remind everyone that unless something changed, 100% Freeza in DBM has a PL of 530,000.
This is why in the Jaykal special everyone had PLs in the hundred thousands and was considered enough to beat Cold.That is very untrue. You're basing yourself on an article i wrote on my DBM website several years before DBM existed. It was based on a french translation error. So of course I don't use it on DBM, and my official stand on Freeza's PL is "x2 per transformation", if you wanna know:
first form is 530,000.
"bull" form is a million (as stated in the manga).
"alien" form is 2, final is 4, "100%" is 8 millions.
Which i'm sure is different from many powerlevel lists and i absolutely don't care.
The reasons the Jaykals believe they are stronger than Frost demons is because they don't know of transformations. Also, being the past, the Demons level is slightly lower.
Of course, because of sarcasm, I kept my article unchanged and wrote on it that I called Toriyama on the phone and he agreed with Freeza max being 530K. But it's a joke.... just saiyan'.
WukongTheMighty was saying: You mean details that Salagir changes because he doesn't like them? Like, I dunno, multipliers? Fusion rules?
I'm sure you can point out a very non-manga source with explanations of multipliers and fusions rules. My only source being the manga, yes, i do what i want with them, as long as it's consistent.
I'm amazed at how mad people can become when i refuse the oozaru x10 when the only source for this in the manga is Vegeta saying "Know this! Our power increase tenfold in oozaru!". The same Vegeta who stated so many wrong things, like being number one in the universe, whose arrogence knows no limit, and who likes to brag.
Arguing this sentence is literaly "Know this! Our PL on the scouter is tenfold in oozaru!" is logical and credible, but not obligatory. It could also simply mean "I'm way way stronger now". Which is true, because if you look at Namek's PLs and battles, a mere 25% more in PL means a flowless victory.
Arguing, on the other hand, that Vegeta oozaru is thus 180,000, meaning he could literally take on the whole Ginyu gang, is quite the shocker for me. Don't you think that information would change everything on his relation with Kiwi, Dodoria, Zarbon, and the whole Ginyu gang, if they knew very well that, anytime, Vegeta can summon a light ball and one-shot them all? That ONLY Freeza could take him?
It's fun to play with maths based on ONE brag word, but in my stupid author little opinion, it's more fun to work on the general consistency of the whole story and characters.
WukongTheMighty was saying: King Cold's inexplicable ability to transform is because a French Guidebook says that he has "All the powers of his sons" I never read that.
Now, imaginating that Cold got the same power as his sons... i don't know... doesn't seem crazy.
WukongTheMighty was saying: Hell, even Broly's extreme wank is because the same guidebook says "Even Gogeta 2 (Super Saiyan 2) or Goku 4 (Super Saiyan 4)" wouldn't be a match for him.
As i told before, in order to make fights a little different, I changed some extremes things on some characters. DBM Broly in invulnerable. DBM Buu got all possible magic powers you can imagine. DBM Vegetto is the absolute energy reservoir (for limited time) that can break anything. Hildegard got the perfect protection. Gast can... cancel all these.
These are choices I did, knowing perfectly they don't follow the usual DBZ setting which is only about power levels.
If you ask me my DBZ-movie-canon Broly PL? It's much less than SSJ2. On the 3 movies he is in, he is beaten by a few SSJ1s, every time...
Why invulnerability and increase in power for Broly? That's not because of some french source. It's because the 2 are useful for the story (without increase, Broly would be an unvulnerable punch bag for half the cast). Also because it fits Broly. If you look at the movies, right before Broly we have the Cyborgs. The final boss, which i call Smurf-Blanka, is having exactly the same fight as Broly: totally unscratched by anyone, until ONE final punch one-shots him.
So why Broly? Because the cyborg got no charisma, and was born two minutes ago. Whereas Broly was the take on the Legendary Saiyan which was hinted before. He is a magnificent total berserk. He embodies all the evil of Saiyans (reminder: Saiyans are evil). He is perfect for the role.
It's not a french person who wrote "his power is maximum".
I'm not really a Broly fanboy. The entire fanbase is. It's ok. It's ok to like seeing the Juggenaut in action.
Seriously, I'm the attacker there? You should re-read some comments on the page, starting by the very first.
We have an outstanding level of tolerance in moderation. I'm happy with that. I also have been on internet forums since decades and I can take much. But remember that many reader's attitude did really, and it's not a lie, turn away several professionnal cartoonists out of the project. That's how bad it is.
I tell them - and myself - to focus on the good comments, as there are many. Most DBM readers are awesome. I thank them for that. This is also the main reason for doing conventions: people face to face are soooo much nicer than on the internet.
I am guilty of lots of sarcasm in my answers, i try to work on that. I've even been impolite, sure, it happens in 16 years. But i don't think it's even close to 1% of what i've been receiving on my end.
WukongTheMighty was saying: to remind everyone that unless something changed, 100% Freeza in DBM has a PL of 530,000.
This is why in the Jaykal special everyone had PLs in the hundred thousands and was considered enough to beat Cold.That is very untrue. You're basing yourself on an article i wrote on my DBM website several years before DBM existed. It was based on a french translation error. So of course I don't use it on DBM, and my official stand on Freeza's PL is "x2 per transformation", if you wanna know:
first form is 530,000.
"bull" form is a million (as stated in the manga).
"alien" form is 2, final is 4, "100%" is 8 millions.
Which i'm sure is different from many powerlevel lists and i absolutely don't care.
The reasons the Jaykals believe they are stronger than Frost demons is because they don't know of transformations. Also, being the past, the Demons level is slightly lower.
Of course, because of sarcasm, I kept my article unchanged and wrote on it that I called Toriyama on the phone and he agreed with Freeza max being 530K. But it's a joke.... just saiyan'.
WukongTheMighty was saying: You mean details that Salagir changes because he doesn't like them? Like, I dunno, multipliers? Fusion rules?
I'm sure you can point out a very non-manga source with explanations of multipliers and fusions rules. My only source being the manga, yes, i do what i want with them, as long as it's consistent.
I'm amazed at how mad people can become when i refuse the oozaru x10 when the only source for this in the manga is Vegeta saying "Know this! Our power increase tenfold in oozaru!". The same Vegeta who stated so many wrong things, like being number one in the universe, whose arrogence knows no limit, and who likes to brag.
Arguing this sentence is literaly "Know this! Our PL on the scouter is tenfold in oozaru!" is logical and credible, but not obligatory. It could also simply mean "I'm way way stronger now". Which is true, because if you look at Namek's PLs and battles, a mere 25% more in PL means a flowless victory.
Arguing, on the other hand, that Vegeta oozaru is thus 180,000, meaning he could literally take on the whole Ginyu gang, is quite the shocker for me. Don't you think that information would change everything on his relation with Kiwi, Dodoria, Zarbon, and the whole Ginyu gang, if they knew very well that, anytime, Vegeta can summon a light ball and one-shot them all? That ONLY Freeza could take him?
It's fun to play with maths based on ONE brag word, but in my stupid author little opinion, it's more fun to work on the general consistency of the whole story and characters.
WukongTheMighty was saying: King Cold's inexplicable ability to transform is because a French Guidebook says that he has "All the powers of his sons" I never read that.
Now, imaginating that Cold got the same power as his sons... i don't know... doesn't seem crazy.
WukongTheMighty was saying: Hell, even Broly's extreme wank is because the same guidebook says "Even Gogeta 2 (Super Saiyan 2) or Goku 4 (Super Saiyan 4)" wouldn't be a match for him.
As i told before, in order to make fights a little different, I changed some extremes things on some characters. DBM Broly in invulnerable. DBM Buu got all possible magic powers you can imagine. DBM Vegetto is the absolute energy reservoir (for limited time) that can break anything. Hildegard got the perfect protection. Gast can... cancel all these.
These are choices I did, knowing perfectly they don't follow the usual DBZ setting which is only about power levels.
If you ask me my DBZ-movie-canon Broly PL? It's much less than SSJ2. On the 3 movies he is in, he is beaten by a few SSJ1s, every time...
Why invulnerability and increase in power for Broly? That's not because of some french source. It's because the 2 are useful for the story (without increase, Broly would be an unvulnerable punch bag for half the cast). Also because it fits Broly. If you look at the movies, right before Broly we have the Cyborgs. The final boss, which i call Smurf-Blanka, is having exactly the same fight as Broly: totally unscratched by anyone, until ONE final punch one-shots him.
So why Broly? Because the cyborg got no charisma, and was born two minutes ago. Whereas Broly was the take on the Legendary Saiyan which was hinted before. He is a magnificent total berserk. He embodies all the evil of Saiyans (reminder: Saiyans are evil). He is perfect for the role.
It's not a french person who wrote "his power is maximum".
I'm not really a Broly fanboy. The entire fanbase is. It's ok. It's ok to like seeing the Juggenaut in action.
Dude the comments you were responding to were just calling this pointless. That’s not being toxic that’s just calling a spade a spade. You are not immune to criticism and people don’t have to like every aspect of the story. I see nothing but praise on this site except for the rare occasion like this when people don’t like your product. You have every right to defend yourself and your story but part of being a creator is rolling with the punches, you just gonna tell people who’ve consistently supported you for years to just quit the moment they criticize your work? I remember this plot point starting like when I was middle school, I have a kid now. Spending 10 years on a subplot, then having it come to fruition in a flashback, not finishing the main fight and then defusing them instantly is as pointless as it gets. You do this every time people criticize you even slightly during these huge moments. It’s sad 1 Replie(s)
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