At the time, Marilyn Manson was the ultimate horror and cause for everything (see movie "Bowling for Columbine")

Teleported_Bread was saying: ZenBuu was saying: kingworld was saying: ZenBuu was saying: kingworld was saying: The Italian dialogues, which are the originals, are so much better for this page:
"I managed to develop this form because my body surpassed its limits, thus this innate characteristic I have resonated with all the elements..."
"What was missing was a real danger: that's why I left you transform into Rosé. I needed a trigger, a real threat to trigger the form."
But the Italian version isn't the original though? It's the French version afaik, that's also why the pages get exported correctly there and not here in English. Even though the English version is completely uploaded somewhere else.

So basically some Italian translator made all that up? Though I gotta say, it does make more sense, but I also always say: respect the source material. Because the dialogue you sent is much different, than what we have here (and also on all other languages which this comic is translated into, so Italian is the exception).

I could be completely wrong, but Chibi Dam'Z is from France, I don't know about Mirai Channel95. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm almost entirely sure Mirai Channel 95 Is Italian. In the Italian section, they themselves commented more than once on how they edited multiple dialogues to make them clearer.
Thanks for this info. I guess I need to rely on the Italian version while translating then, instead of French. I just wish I would've known this earlier, now I have to revisit every page that was already released again...
There's an English version of this story already, too, on the author's DeviantArt. I should have the whole story downloaded
I know that, I already translated the whole comic into German. The problem is, that the English and French versions have different dialogues than the original Italian version. I wasn't aware of this until this page. I have also no idea why it wasn't updated in English and French. Not even a note for us translators in the admin panel. I shouldn't find out about this through comments, so there was definitely some bad communication within the team. I'll try to see which pages have vastly different dialogues and see if I can fix it.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

kingworld was saying: The Italian dialogues, which are the originals, are so much better for this page:
"I managed to develop this form because my body surpassed its limits, thus this innate characteristic I have resonated with all the elements..."
"What was missing was a real danger: that's why I left you transform into Rosé. I needed a trigger, a real threat to trigger the form."
But the Italian version isn't the original though? It's the French version afaik, that's also why the pages get exported correctly there and not here in English. Even though the English version is completely uploaded somewhere else.

So basically some Italian translator made all that up? Though I gotta say, it does make more sense, but I also always say: respect the source material. Because the dialogue you sent is much different, than what we have here (and also on all other languages which this comic is translated into, so Italian is the exception).

I could be completely wrong, but Chibi Dam'Z is from France, I don't know about Mirai Channel95. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Jirobai ha detto: Ai tempi Zen Buu era ancora simpatico.

Mai trovato simpatico neanche mezza volta. Tipica megalomania da villain con più potere di quanto ne sa gestire e che, nonostante quanta gente abbia assorbito, in ultima analisi è infantile quanto la sua versione delle origini.

Mi son sempre piaciute queste pagine e mi è sempre piaciuta la prima vignetta coi 3 demoni del freddo che discutono sulla musica e Cooler che si incazza proprio.

Grandissimo Cooler.

kingworld was saying: This has me wonder: what's the limit on the "cloth beam" of Piccolo? Could he materialize a 10^1000 tons cloth on someone, possibly squashing even the Vegetto?
Maybe such a massive cloth that turns into a black hole, thus killing anyone but U20 Broly?
Could he create a poisonous cloth that instantly kills the wearer, or an antimatter one, that annihilates the opponent?
If he could do that, he would've tried that against Majin Son Bra.

Foxer ha detto: kingworld ha detto: "Diverse tonnellate" materializzate istantaneamente e senza sforzo...
Potrebbe creare un vestito da 10 miliardi di miliardi di tonnellate, così da schiacciare anche Vegeth?
O un vestito così massivo da trasformarsi in un buco nero?
E un vestito velenoso, o uno di antimateria, così da uccidere istantaneamente l'indossatore?
Quali sono i limiti di questo "clothes beam"? Potrebbe essere l'arma più forte dell'intero multiverso...!
Scusa la mia ignoranza ma come può essere un vestito velenoso
Semplicemente inzuppato di veleno osmotico, da inalazione olfattiva o da contatto

Sicuro Yamoshi non lo sa, per questo reagisce così...

quindi é solo un sesso più forte di un tre, peccato, contro il rosé risulterà inutile in quanto Black si sarà abituato meglio dell'originale a quella forma

Ain't Frieza, Gast and Bojack in the direction Krillin is looking?

MUIGogito was saying: kingworld was saying: In which way(s) Toriyama told us in "pretty unambiguous terms" that SSJ3 Goku is stronger than Ultimate Gohan?

In the manga Old Kai says Goku and Vegeta are the two greatest masters in the universe.
Daizenshuu 6 outright calls Goku the strongest hero during his bout with Pure Buu.
In Daizenshuu 7 Goku and Vegeta are called two strongest fighter in the universe.
El Manga Legendario puts Goku and Vegeta as the strongest fighters "in all of space" as no. 1 and 2. in the top 5 it gives.
Chozenshuu 4 calls Goku charging the Genki Dama the strongest guy in the world.
The World of Akira Toriyama exhibit pamphlet calls Goku the strongest warrior.
V-Jump 2018 says Buuhan gained power on par with SS3 Goku, this is actually an upscale for Gohan by equating him to SS3 Goku.
Dragon Ball Super story guide calls Goku the strongest warrior in the universe.
Daima says plainly Goku is the most powerful warrior in the opening sequence. Shin in Daima plainly states there's no one stronger than Goku.
In El Manga Legendario Toriyama is on record saying that he Goku a step ahead of the other Saiyans in terms of power.
In Daizenshuu 4 Toriyama says about Goku *Always of a kind-hearted nature and the strongest person in the universe. Indeed, Goku is number one!*. The expression Toriyama uses for number one always refers to battle power in the manga, guides and AT interviews.
Koyama is on record saying that Goku is the strongest and when asked to clarify if the number one means strength he says says yes.
Toriyama thought the guides are accurate. Daizenshuu 7: *I am ridiculously forgetful, so despite being the author there is lots of stuff even I do not know anymore. It was often quite a nuisance, and I think having this encyclopedia around when the series was still running would have really helped me out. Darn it all. Anyway, my thanks to the staff, and to all Dragon Ball fans.*

I still find it bizarre that we have every guide and extra material agreeing that Goku is stronger with Toriyama saying he's the #1 strongest person in the universe and people still get confused by this. The same goes for Pure Buu who has been consistently described as the strongest Majin making it painfully clear that he's stronger than Super Buu. Buu (Gohan Absorbed) vs Pure Buu is a different beast and very contentious, you can make good arguments for either. Personally, I think Buuhan is above Pure Buu in the manga. But Super Buu? He's toast.

When Old Kai unlocked Gohan's potential, he was the strongest character. There's even a guide (Saikyo Jump but I don't remember the issue) claiming as such comparing him directly to Goku! Goku has simply gotten stronger than Gohan by the time of his fight with Pure Buu and there is literally not a single piece of evidence to the contrary with a myriad of evidence in Goku's favour. I kid you not, there's not a reference to Gohan being stronger all the way up until Super Hero promo material where he says Gohan is actually stronger than anyone which is true because Beast Gohan > UI Goku is hardly contentious.

This is almost as bad as the misconception that Goku returned as the MC in Buu Saga because of ratings or pressure from Shueisha when Toriyama just liked Goku more and is on record saying he's his favourite character.

How much more unambiguous can you get over calling the guy the strongest and #1 repeatedly?
I really appreciate the thoroughness of your answer!
From my side, having never read the Daizenshuu, I base my deductions from the manga only:
— Ultimate Gohan ridicules Super Buy
— Vegeta (when within Super Buy) implies that himself + Goku would NOT be able to stand up against Super Buu
Thus I deduce that Ultimate Gohan > Super Buu > SSJ3 Goku + SSJ2 Vegeta > SSJ3 Goku.
I wonder if the "number one", "best" etc are merely ways to say "he's the best because he's the protagonist", rather than "strongest", even tho at least one of your quotes negates that.
Ultimately... I think that Toriyama really didn't care about these debates at all, and we all are wildly overthinking this, in one way or another. But it's fun, so why not :)

Oopsie whoopsie, just a little translation mistake !
The idea is : her "youngest brothers", among the three of them, so, Goten and Trunks !
I'm fixing it. ^^

kingworld was saying: "her younger brothers"? Son Bra is the youngest of the family, except Pan...

Author is confused a f prob saying goten and trunks are younger

They are drawn like teenager rather than 30 yr old adults that's why this Manga not realistic

ZenBuu was saying: Bad Luck was saying: so mad she’s breaking translation
What's wrong with the translation here? If you leave such a comment, then at least say where exactly the issue is, please.

Maybe he might have meant breaking the 4th wall?
Either that or in reference to "Bulma"s character talking really weirdly, as if not an english speaker. Both of her speech bubbles could have used english idioms that would have worked instead of the clunky way they were phrased. (only reason I'm even mentioning it is because you asked)

"hey, the ugly" for one, I'd imagine "hey ugly" or "hey uggo", or even something like "listen here, you ugly X [insert insulting noun]" (I dunno if cursing is okay here, but if so, in english, I'd imagine using "fucker", "cunt" "piece of shit" or "sack of crap" might be an appropriate insulting term, given the situation and context)

"you dream in colors and stereo surround" - in english this would probably be "you must be dreaming" or "keep on dreaming". Or even "you might want to wake up and smell the roses" to use an older way of phrasing it

"It's disgusting! I am in great sorrow and everyone takes the opportunity to pounce on me" - this one is the major one that doesn't work in english (even if you can generally understand what she's saying).
— "It's disgusting!" in english is generally going to be "this sucks", although there are other ways to phrase it too.
— "I am in great sorrow" - Maybe phrased as "I'm pissed off"?
— "everyone is taking the opportunity to pounce on me" - assuming I'm understanding this one correctly, it'd make more sense in english to say "everyone is picking on me"
— also, assuming the above is correct, you'd want to switch around the order of my final 2 points, meaning you might say "everyone is picking on me and it's pissing me off!"

... Ma che razza di pagina è?! XD

kingworld was saying: In which way(s) Toriyama told us in "pretty unambiguous terms" that SSJ3 Goku is stronger than Ultimate Gohan?

In the manga Old Kai says Goku and Vegeta are the two greatest masters in the universe.
Daizenshuu 6 outright calls Goku the strongest hero during his bout with Pure Buu.
In Daizenshuu 7 Goku and Vegeta are called two strongest fighter in the universe.
El Manga Legendario puts Goku and Vegeta as the strongest fighters "in all of space" as no. 1 and 2. in the top 5 it gives.
Chozenshuu 4 calls Goku charging the Genki Dama the strongest guy in the world.
The World of Akira Toriyama exhibit pamphlet calls Goku the strongest warrior.
V-Jump 2018 says Buuhan gained power on par with SS3 Goku, this is actually an upscale for Gohan by equating him to SS3 Goku.
Dragon Ball Super story guide calls Goku the strongest warrior in the universe.
Daima says plainly Goku is the most powerful warrior in the opening sequence. Shin in Daima plainly states there's no one stronger than Goku.
In El Manga Legendario Toriyama is on record saying that he Goku a step ahead of the other Saiyans in terms of power.
In Daizenshuu 4 Toriyama says about Goku *Always of a kind-hearted nature and the strongest person in the universe. Indeed, Goku is number one!*. The expression Toriyama uses for number one always refers to battle power in the manga, guides and AT interviews.
Koyama is on record saying that Goku is the strongest and when asked to clarify if the number one means strength he says says yes.
Toriyama thought the guides are accurate. Daizenshuu 7: *I am ridiculously forgetful, so despite being the author there is lots of stuff even I do not know anymore. It was often quite a nuisance, and I think having this encyclopedia around when the series was still running would have really helped me out. Darn it all. Anyway, my thanks to the staff, and to all Dragon Ball fans.*

I still find it bizarre that we have every guide and extra material agreeing that Goku is stronger with Toriyama saying he's the #1 strongest person in the universe and people still get confused by this. The same goes for Pure Buu who has been consistently described as the strongest Majin making it painfully clear that he's stronger than Super Buu. Buu (Gohan Absorbed) vs Pure Buu is a different beast and very contentious, you can make good arguments for either. Personally, I think Buuhan is above Pure Buu in the manga. But Super Buu? He's toast.

When Old Kai unlocked Gohan's potential, he was the strongest character. There's even a guide (Saikyo Jump but I don't remember the issue) claiming as such comparing him directly to Goku! Goku has simply gotten stronger than Gohan by the time of his fight with Pure Buu and there is literally not a single piece of evidence to the contrary with a myriad of evidence in Goku's favour. I kid you not, there's not a reference to Gohan being stronger all the way up until Super Hero promo material where he says Gohan is actually stronger than anyone which is true because Beast Gohan > UI Goku is hardly contentious.

This is almost as bad as the misconception that Goku returned as the MC in Buu Saga because of ratings or pressure from Shueisha when Toriyama just liked Goku more and is on record saying he's his favourite character.

How much more unambiguous can you get over calling the guy the strongest and #1 repeatedly?

It never stops amusing me that despite Dragon Ball consistently showing that hax doesn't work, Dragon Ball fans are still shocked when hax doesn't work. How many times do we need to see Kienzan, Mafuuba, Time Stop and all other hax abilities fail before Dragon Ball fans finally understand the concept of punching harder? DB fandom has a bad tendency of overthinking things and inventing headcanon for no reason even when the man Toriyama himself goes out of his way to make things as simple as possible. We're still reeling from mass headcanon hysteria regarding SS3 Goku and Ultimate Gohan (and by extension Pure Buu and Super Buu) 30 years later despite the man himself telling us in pretty unambiguous terms that Goku is stronger. Even the excellent DBM comic fell to this misconception. Ironically, the much maligned by the community idea of Broly being an insanely OP Buu Saga+ threat is closer to canon material than the idea that Ultimate Gohan is above SS3 Goku or the idea that hax like Mafuuba or Kienzan can turn the tides of battle against a stronger opponent.

Livelli cringe "over 9000".
Ma Ve lo immaginate due folle combattere per strada ed una riferirsi all' altra con "voi umani malvagi qui, umani malvagi là"??

Va detto che Chilled non è che fosse un mostro, nello special è un pò più forte di Bardak normale, che era più o meno 10k al tempo, viene massacrato da Bardak SSJ, se vogliamo anche prendere il moltiplicatore del SSJ di X50 Bardak SSJ sarebbe 50.000, questo significa che Chilled non era chissà che mostro, nella serie classica l'unico vero mutante superforte del clan era Frieza, ed era un mutante, ricordiamolo, il fatto che Bardak fosse SSJ non lo mette allo stesso piano di Goku SSJ.

Anche avesse avuto uno Zenkai quel Bardak sarebbe lontano anni luce da Goku e Freezer.

"Non ti sto nemmeno chiedendo di essere"

La frase precedente era meglio secondo me: chiariva ciò che intendeva.

Daiko was saying: Why else would so many people be commenting after so many years? I can say from experience that there are people who comment here purely out of hatred and bitterness, who just want to stir up trouble. (Enough of these people have admitted it in the end.) So, forgive me if I just don't believe it that a fan would be so invested in the comic, yet only leave comments that question everything in the worst way and literally can't say a single nice word about DBM. The sunk cost fallacy unfortunately forces them to keep coming back.


Daiko was saying: That's fair enough. You feel what you feel. The common sentiment I've seen, and share, is that while it's overall good it has some REALLY bad spots that are largely disliked. You're very much the minority but it's not like you're WRONG either since taste isn't objective. Speak for yourself. Don't use other people's opinions to add weight to your argument. Most people who visit this website don't comment. So you don't know what the majority of people think about it. Do not try to second-guess what the other readers have in mind.


LordUzaki was saying: Is South Kai under some kind of spell? If not, this is next level stupid. He's far too straight to the point here, he must be under the control of XXI.This is the assumption that page 2482 has left us with. There must be a reason why, out of nowhere, the final exchange between Yamcha and I'K'L was shown in this chapter. South may not have been quite himself since that time.


CompactCoven was saying: Just noticed it by the way, why's there text at the top that says "It's another remote"? Is it saying it's different from the one we saw the Vargas use against Zen Buu?It is very possible that there are many more remote controls. But in this particular case, I think DBM wanted to make sure that South didn't use the same remote from the Dark Varga. On page 2485, Uuv was given one, and today's page ensures that he will continue to have it for later events. South, most probably, fetched another remote.


mx1mum was saying: Why is everyone assuming this is definitely the end of universe 9? Who knows what will happen in the next few pages/chaptersThat's sadly just the way it is. Even in this chapter, some people were absolutely sure that Raditz and Elder Kaioshin were dead because of what XXI showed the U13 Saiyans. The theory that both might still be alive was sometimes dismissed. The prospect of what may come later is often not even considered (e.g. Bujin says that XXI left the tournament. People argue XXI is gone, until he showed up. Goku apparently one-punched Vegeta into the ground in their tournament match. People argue the fight is definitely over, until later they continue to fight. etc). It's a shame really, considering there are so many what-if YouTube videos and headcanons about Dragonball that make you think outside the box.


kingworld was saying: My problems with this part is not that South is acting like an idiot, since he's clearly mind-controlled to some extent.
My issues are the following:
1) Why did Yamcha omit everything I'K'L said about XXI during the "summary" he provided to the others after the I'K'L events?
2) Why did South leave Old Kaioshin there if his plan was to send him back in a ship?
3) Why did he return with a remote, if his plan was to send the Old Kaioshin back in a ship?
...too many forcings to drive the plot where it's wanted. I admit, these are valid points.

1) I assumed that Yamcha mentioned everything on page 2380, so I personally believed that South was intentionally twisting Yamcha's words here in this case and making everything out to be different than it actually was.

2) Maybe South was completely sure that neither Raditz, nor Elder Kaioshin will recover from his beating. He said he'd bring the Vargas, but he didn't. Maybe he only changed his mind on the way to Control Tower.

3) Maybe he actually wanted to bring them back in a ship, brought the remote only as a safety line, and when he realized that in U10 apartment Raditz and Elder Kaioshin are nowhere to be found, he quickly figured out that they are in U9 apartment instead.

As mentioned. You raise valid points that are hard to explain. Definitely weak points in the plot and the puzzle pieces you have to put together to explain it seem absurd.

Please no double posts. You can edit your comments at the beginning. Please use this feature.

Please don't write comments wih all caps.


Videl! No!

Okay, that's the final straw. From now on, it's inevitable. All the universes that have already left U0 will undoubtedly reappear in some way in the final arc. For some universes, it made sense to remove them from the story and send them back to their own universe. For some others, however, it just doesn't fit. And U9 is definitely one of those cases. We will definitely see U9 again. Just like U4 ZenBuu and others.



Page 2458 now makes a lot more sense in retrospect. The Varga can't find Yamcha because he was sent home by South via remote control.
MrPerson0 was saying: Also weird that the Vargas can't tell that an entire universe was sent back home. That is indeed an interesting point. I can understand why a simple Varga who is in the arena wouldn't know the details. However, it would make sense if he briefly asks in the main tower where Yamcha is and they give him information.

That begs the question. Is it automatically displayed in the computers when an entire universe has been sent away? If that's not the case, it would mean only those who were present when it happened know about it. In this case, only South and Raditz. But that would be a glaring design flaw in the machine if it didn't indicate whether an entire universe was sent away or not.

Here's how I explain it.
The two Varga in the arena wondering where Yamcha is. They haven't checked with the main headquarters in the tower at that moment. Otherwise they would be told that U9 has already been sent away.


Thiln was saying: I agree. There's a lot of mental gymnastics at play here. You could say that South has been so heavily manipulated by someone that he no longer listens to logic. ;)


Eddboy was saying: Was he lobotomized offscreen??No, on-screen on page 2482.


Pryomnicom was saying: XXI is not directly controlling anyone, seems to me to be basic manipulation. He maybe presented a message to South Kai in a way that seemed like it was I'K'L's dying wish? The Senzu he gave Vegetto is probably like Crack Cocaine for the guy, so he's gonna be even more aggrevated without a fix. Saiyans, Androids, Frost demons all just given an incentive. Another Budokai Tenkaichi is upon us with everyone that was missing last time.
Lucas was saying: "I'K'L must have meant we can trust him"?? Okay, that's a weird line. I'm guessing that in the first page of this chapter, I'K'L's energy ball did affect South somehow. But for whatever reason the message was unclear, and now South thinks that I'K'L meant the literal opposite of what he was trying to say. Can't really say that I like it, but I can tell we're lacking a vital piece of the puzzle here.
This makes a lot more sense than XXI manipulating South.


Nassif9000 was saying: tl;dr South dumb, contradictory behaviors and philosophy, someone kick his ass and shut him up please I think South is under a spell. Comparable to the Majin enslavement spell. Majin doesn't make a person evil per se, it reinforces the malevolent tendencies and suppresses all the good thoughts. South, despite being a stickler for rules per se, seems to be super obsessively doing the right thing here, like his tendencies are being amplified in the worst way at one point. He's willing to use violence, not consult anyone else, and take matters into his own hands, etc.
I'm sure we'll get an answer as to how exactly it led to this.


PrimeFighter was saying: I'm following this story to the end at this point not because I'm really excited to see how the story unfolds, but because I want closure to the decline of the writing of a story I've been reading for years. I advise you not to do that. Sunk-cost fallacy is a bad thing and does not bode well for you in the long run.


Pope Muffins was saying: Right, I think this is the page where I drop DBM, this is just ridiculous and South Kai is acting like a moronThis is a mature decision, which I support. Because there is nothing worse than falling for the sunk-cost fallacy.


SoyBear was saying: For instance; Goku's Nimbus cloud wouldn't let an evil person on it,Funny you should mention it. It was made clear that only people with pure hearts can use the cloud, otherwise they would fall through, as was the case with Roshi and Bulma. Later, Goku kills a Red Ribbon helicopter pilot in cold blood using the cloud. And when he confronts Tambourine, Goku wants to murder him in cold blood, he says so directly.







And yet Goku has not fallen from the cloud. What does it mean? People with pure hearts can act evil depending on the situation and still be considered a pure-hearted person per se. If we apply that to South, it would fit. South is considered a good person who only acts evil depending on the situation. Or rather, is manipulated by something.


Captain Carbonite was saying: More people calling it Lame and Disappointing before the story is even complete… let’s wait and see guys. You’ve all been wrong multiple times before because you cast judgement on one page. Yes, the problem is that many people simply don't accept DBM's concept of a webcomic. People criticize the publication of a page as being the same as the publication of a whole chapter. We know there's more to come, but still too often people act as if the latest published page is the last page of the chapter.

ChrisOfChaos was saying: Videl's face...thanks for the nightmares DBM.

Also curious if Vegeta's power boost will put him on par with Raditz.
That's our first clue that Captain Ginyu isn't dead... :V

kingworld ha detto: "Yamcha è al livello di C17" uhhh?
Yamcha con una gamba rotta ha massacrato I'K'L che ha demolito C16 con due colpi, il quale tiene testa ad un Cell che mazzuolava C17 & Piccolo.
Yamcha è fra Cell semiperfetto e Cell perfetto (non di più, altrimenti avrebbe gestito facilmente da solo il Cell Jr).

In realtà potrebbe essere al livello di cell perfetto pre-suicidio, infondo quell cell jr era allo stesso livello del cell che quelli del 18 hanno affrontato al torneo (anzi anche piu forte considerando gli zenkai che cell si è preso tra lo scontro cell jr vs gast e la rivolta di babidy) ed in più era anche potenziato dal majin

Nope, I still think this is dreadful, sorry.
Any sense of Raditz being strong now has been destroyed by him getting clowned not once, but twice.
It doesn't matter what else you do with him now, he's basically been reduced to a joke.

And the vision chapter was just utterly pointless minicomic fodder, confirmed outright?
Honestly, I wouldn't be averse to that just being moved outright from the main comic to the minicomics if it isn't at all canon to DBM and is just a gag joke.

Also, how does this work if Raditz say, just charges an attack to nuke the area?
Not that it matters anyway.

Also, am I supposed to believe that this silly mental block works on those who are "good" but are being used by evil for the sake of doing evil against their knowledge/control?
What, does this mean that Raditz couldn't hurt Majin Bra?
Who decides what is good? Who decides what is bad? Raditz? Old Kai? Some magical enchantment that rates people on a black and white karmic scale?
What is good for some may not be good for others.
Is Raditz forced into utiliatarianism now?
Because if that was the case, then the mental block shouldn't have done anything to stop him against South Kai.

People are saying "They're not showing his eyes, they're shaded out, so he must be mind-controlled by XXI."

Are you serious? Have you not read a single comic or manga before? It's a common technique in like comics/manga, whatever, that when they darken the eyes like that, it's showing that South is PISSED. He's angry, enraged, if you saw the last page, you saw him glaring at them as the beat the tar out Raditz. What shocked me is that he just decked the Old Kai too, don't think we ever saw someone actually attack Old Kai in official sources. He's an old man, but also a Supreme Kai (or former one). You'd think South would be showing more reverence to his elder, but it goes to show, how ANGRY South Kai is. He's seen the tournament interrupted again and again, and even one of the other Kais was "corrupted" or otherwise "influenced" by Zen Buu (he wasn't mind controlled by Zen Buu, but had his way of thinking swayed by him). This whole tournament has been going tits up since the start, and South is just sick of it, unwilling to listen to reason. He sees Old Kai as plotting to take out another contestant, one of the finalists, and doesn't really want to hear the excuse, because they've had several cases of things just going out of control, and South is probably just sick of everything going wrong repeatedly.

Zen Buu trying to take over several times, Babidi taking over, I'K'L doing his thing, and Broly going ape shit at the start too. At least 4 insurrections by participants. It IS a good showing of how he's probably sick of his whole tournament, and it's likely gonna show him just wishing to get the tournament done and over with, and get everyone sent back to their own universes, and wash his hands of the whole affair forever.

Thinking about it, nothing in this tournament has gone right, and these are the most powerful people in the multiverse, and they don't get along, and keep trying to destroy the whole tournament, taking over the place, etc. Many of these contestants are as strong as, if not stronger than the Gods (Kais) themselves. They cannot be contained.

Lol, still love the Varga thinking about the cooked bird.

I wonder if Gast needing to drink all that water is because he fused with so many Namekians, like how Vegito has a huge appetite because he's the fusion of Saiyans. The two Piccolos don't seem to have ordered several glasses of water

I don't know what to think about the eyes on South here. Is it indicative of something?

Also, WHAT A HIPOCRYTE! This entire damn tournament was influencing the destinies of all the universes!

If XXI is Smart his wish would be not to be hungry anymore. Just imagine if he destroys all universe and he is left in a empty Void forever hungry but with absolutely nothing to eat

Nostalgico rivedere questo Vegeth sempre un passo avanti a tutti, con lui Cell non ha mai fatto lo spaccone XD( però se apprendesse il SSJ0 potrebbe essere piuttosto pericoloso)

Kaioshin Anziano: -"Sì, Vegeth, uccidilo. Anzi, fatti attaccare e fallo squalificare..."
— Vegeth: "Lo ucciderò, non ne vedevo l'ora"
— "Kaioshin Anziano: "...così come lui ha fatto squalificare te"
— Vegeth: "Allora prima lo ucciderò e poi lo farò squalificare"
— Kaioshin Anziano: "Va bene, bastai che fai qualcosa di distruttivo nei suoi confronti"


— XXI: "Mio caro vecchio nemico, ancora una volta complotti contro di me!"
— Vegeth: "Non sono così vecchio"
— Kaioshin Anziano: "Vegeth, non stava parlando con te. XXI, desisti dai tuoi malefici intendimenti. Vegeth non era nemmeno il mio piano A!"
— Vegeth: "Cosa? Per davvero?!? Chi era il tuo piano A? Gast?"
— XXI: "Quello era il suo piano D. Il suo piano A era Radish"
— "Cosa? Davvero? Radish? E chi era il tuo piano B, Yamcha?!?"
— .Kaioshin Anziano:"..."
— Vegeth: "Era davvero Yamcha?!?"
— Kaioshin Anziano: "No! Era il mio piano C! Il mio piano B era Goku"
— Vegeth: "Goku? Io sono fatto per la metà di Goku e so perfettamente quando debba ritenermi offeso. E poi scusa, perchè Goku sarebbe meglio di Goku più Vegeta? Perchè Radish e Yamcha sarebbero meglio di Goku e Vegeta?"
— XXI: "Per lui Radish O Yamcha sarebbero più forti di Goku E Vegeta assieme..."
— Vegeth: "Mar Caspio, hai ragione. Passo dalla tua parte"
— Kaioshin Anziano: "Ma...ma...Mar Caspio. Sento il bisogno di bestemmiarmi"

Saso was saying: Salagir was saying: Whaaah. This page was extremely misunderstood. Maybe one of the most misunderstood pages in DBM.
It's obviously my fault for not telling it right, but I'm on my ass that it fell so FAR short of the mark.

This page contains two revelations.
1. it explains why Vegetto ignored Son Bra when she tried to talk to him. Speculation was rife on this page and it was great. Here comes the explanation, almost no reaction.
Probably my fault: just redoing the "hang on" panel wasn't enough, maybe I should have added a panel copying Vegetto walking towards the corridor, to add some context. My fault for wanting to make as few panels as possible.
2. The Old Kaioshin reveals, quite astonished himself, that Vegetto is suddenly weaker! He felt it while he was having this privileged telepathic contact. It's a surprise for him and the reader. No, he doesn't provoke it.
It's true that if you read the text out loud, depending on the tone, the last two bubbles could come across as roast, or as a surprising discovery. That's why you have to be careful about what you write on the Internet - you never know what tone it's going to be read in!
My mistake: the old man in the last panel may not look surprised enough, and the fact that he's clenching his teeth may show him to be aggressive. I should have thought of that and asked for changes.
Wow, it definitely went over my head aswell, maybe a face more like ":0" for the Kaioshin was indeed necessary, and maybe "I feel you are weaker" to be extra obvious, definitely interpreted this page as everyone else did, will translate and post this comment to Spanish.

Danjita was saying: Why do my posted keep getting deleted?

— edit-

Ok this post seems to have stayed up.
So why is the artwork so bad recently? Is this a main chapter or not?
I think you are presenting your opinion as a fact rather than as what it is, I also think the art level on this chapter it's really good, even better than some of the other fanmangas published here, I wish I could draw like this.

If you are saying that about Bunga(last special chapter), omg, that would be crazy.

And finally yes, this is a flashback of the main story, it's the main plot.

If you compare this art to the art in all the other main chapters.... Yeah its awful.

Whaaah. This page was extremely misunderstood. Maybe one of the most misunderstood pages in DBM.
It's obviously my fault for not telling it right, but I'm on my ass that it fell so FAR short of the mark.

This page contains two revelations.
1. it explains why Vegetto ignored Son Bra when she tried to talk to him. Speculation was rife on this page and it was great. Here comes the explanation, almost no reaction.
Probably my fault: just redoing the "hang on" panel wasn't enough, maybe I should have added a panel copying Vegetto walking towards the corridor, to add some context. My fault for wanting to make as few panels as possible.
2. The Old Kaioshin reveals, quite astonished himself, that Vegetto is suddenly weaker! He felt it while he was having this privileged telepathic contact. It's a surprise for him and the reader. No, he doesn't provoke it.
It's true that if you read the text out loud, depending on the tone, the last two bubbles could come across as roast, or as a surprising discovery. That's why you have to be careful about what you write on the Internet - you never know what tone it's going to be read in!
My mistake: the old man in the last panel may not look surprised enough, and the fact that he's clenching his teeth may show him to be aggressive. I should have thought of that and asked for changes.

Ma perché Goku sarebbe stupido, dai? Cioè che doveva fare, mettersi a piangere dopo che gli ha detto di non poter vincere? Anzi il fatto che rimanga ottimista è lodevole a mio parere, boh. Giustizia per il mio saiyan cresciuto sulla terra ingiustamente insultato!

Ma quindi xxi non c'entra più nulla con la spada z o non si sa?

He’s basically calling Goku an idiot because he’s warning him that with his current strength he won’t be able to win, and that he needs to find a way to win no matter what (even though it’s not clear what exactly he expects Goku to do). Meanwhile, Goku is just ignoring him and saying he’ll do his best, even if he thinks he can’t win. Being a fighting brute as usual

Ma Goku ti ha detto che farà tutto ciò che è in suo potere

嗶? So this comic was originally in Chinese? I wonder why there isn't a Chinese version on this site...

What other story could there be ?? Broly goes back and freezes unless Zeno or something else gets involved

Questo finale così aperto e così divergente rispetto al canon mi fa pensare che l'autore avesse in mente una parte 2 del suo fan manga, che semplicemente non aveva ancora elaborato.

C'è modo di contattare l'autore? Perché vorrei dargli il consiglio che avevo scritto in un modo diverso qualche pagina fa: trasformare Blancoverse in una fanfic testuale. Molto meno impegnativa di un fumetto e permette di aggiungere molti dettagli, lasciando all'immaginazione del lettore il compito di dare un'immagine agli eventi. Io la leggerei volentieri.

Com'è disegnata male questa pagina.

Non mi piace proprio.

YellNinja1600 was saying: Turtle island is well drawn this feel like genuine dragonball art in early beginning of Z.

I wonder what the remaining z warriors can do to prepare themselves ? Unlike universe 9 in Dbm a universe with no Goku, those guys like Krillin and Tien died and trained under King Kai learning Kaio Ken like Goku which greatly impacted their future as they continued to train their base form. And they were all wished back to life with Earth Dragonballs. So this version the remaining z warriors have no real other option but to enter time chamber to gain a big power up. And possibly learning Mafuba.

In the original timeline, the earthlings managed to go from 200 to 1500-1800 in less than a year training under Kami/Popo.

This time, they have 10-11 years before the saiyans arrive. If they keep training for the entire time, even if they don't use the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, they should at least be able to destroy Raditz and give Nappa and Gohan a good battle, if not outright kill them.

Sadly, that's as far as they go. They can't touch Vegeta. And all of this is asuming the saiyans don't get the chance to turn into Oozarus. If they did, it's game over for everyone.

PD: Sure, they could use the Mafuba to imprison Vegeta. But that would only delay their fates. Once the saiyan squad gets missing, Freeza will go to Earth. And there's no way in hell they are winning against that.

I take it this page is a flashback of sorts, happening right after Gohan's been abducted.

Il vecchio stile era carino, ma vedendo queste pagine colorate (colorate benissimo per la cronaca) apprezzo davvero Asura e il cambio che ha portato. Perché vedere qualcuno che usa il kaioken avere due stecchini per braccia mi fa venire voglia di piangere.

Mi viene un pò il vomito ma spero il capitolo sia bello

iron leaf was saying: The specials are there so that Asura has enough buffer to draw the main chapters.
Thanks for this warning, but please stop repeating this sentence.
The specials aren’t there "to give time to Asura". They never were.

The specials are there because we can do them. Because other cartoonists are willing to participate, because they add more story to DBM.
As a bonus they give more pages and permit us to release at a faster pace. If there was no specials, you’d just get about 1.5 pages per week instead of 3.

Which Bra is that? I’m assuming U18.

kingworld was saying: Page 2455 didn't update for me... Why?
Kingmouli was saying: kingworld was saying: Page 2455 didn't update for me... Why?
Same for me.
Do a force refresh: Ctrl+F5

Ma che davvero(non mi pare il caso di premiare pure il pubblico per essersi difeso(e non aver difatti salvato nessuno a parte l'altra Varga il cui fischio(fatto di sua iniziativa una volta capita la situazione) ha ucciso il Grande Re Demone Piccolo, quella decisamente meritava più riconoscimento di quella che si è limitata a premere un tasto, per un piano d'emergenza pensato da tutti i Varga, sulla base di un Deus Ex Machina(ossia che SOLO chi è dell'Universo 1 può viaggiare nel Multiverso, come scusa per rendere il ritorno a casa di Bu permanente e non solo temporaneo) che ancora non ci è dato sapere come funziona XD) ed essere morti tutti(da ambo i fronti) per mano di Son Bra XD)?, capisco premiare C-16 per lo sforzo(e per aver preso l'iniziativa contro la minaccia prima che quasi uccidesse anche Gohan) ma che c'entrano C-17 e C-18 scusa(loro al contrario di Cell(che si era assicurato di risparmiare i soli capaci di fermare Son Bra) so andati contro l'unico che avrebbe potuto fermare I'K'L efficacemente)?, si vede che Yamcha come Vegeth non vuole condividere il suo ossigeno/avere niente a che fare con esseri che tanto disprezza(rispettivamente l'impunita Son Bra e i 2 gemelli Cyborg irrimediabilmente marci fino al midollo) e che ha ormai rinnegato(non lo biasimo ma almeno il premio poteva ritirarlo separatamente con C-16, dopotutto Cell e gli altri si erano tenuti a distanza minima(nel caso di chi ha combattuto al suo fianco contro Son Bra) l'uno dall'altro per non essere associati/messi sullo stesso piano),

@Pagina

Se fossi un personaggio di multiverse Bruce e Zarya sarebbero i miei fidanzati ahah! Troppo adorabili.

Ahahahah, bellissime le due Videl che si danno il "brofist" :P

Pensavo che Cell avesse fatto più uccisioni di tutti
Obiettivamente Cell ha ucciso sia Bojak che Tapion o sbaglio?

kingworld ha detto: I piedi di Gotenks mi sembrano estremamente corti...
Perche puntano verso la "telecamera" (per cosi dire)

"Ride home about"?

Come on, guys. How hard is it to get an English speaking DB fan to proof read your panels?