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Cell is the "lie."
Bulma said they killed Gohan. But they sense Gohan in Cell.
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Bulma said they killed Gohan. But they sense Gohan in Cell.
Shabby ha detto:
Broly just unleashed his worst nightmare!
Ghost-Ghost Nappa
Credit to the lighting on Raditz armor. It warns that a beam is incoming. Very nice touch.
DarkBuster was saying: Broly suspiciously only killing villains, so far
Piccolo is the weakest good guy here,, or Goten/Trunks if they unfuse.
@Sayazur
Did you draw half of Raditz and Nappa in mirror mode? Lmao. No problem, just funny
Ghost-Ghost Nappa
Credit to the lighting on Raditz armor. It warns that a beam is incoming. Very nice touch.
DarkBuster was saying: Broly suspiciously only killing villains, so far
Piccolo is the weakest good guy here,, or Goten/Trunks if they unfuse.
@Sayazur
Did you draw half of Raditz and Nappa in mirror mode? Lmao. No problem, just funny
This ia the broly that went toe to toe with ssj2 Vegetto.
Conpared to that, everybody here may as well be the farmer with shotgun. Varying levels of power are basically meaningless. Only the villains dying so far feels... improbable. 1 Risposta/e
Broly suspiciously only killing villains, so far
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DBMultiverse Special OAV - Broly Final War page 35
PrimeFighter ha detto:
Cor Petit was saying: Has he?
I mean, he got blasted through while defenseless by Imperfect Cell, he tanked a blast from Nappa who was over x3 his power level at the time, and I guess regenerated when shattered by petrification.
I mean, he got blasted through while defenseless by Imperfect Cell, he tanked a blast from Nappa who was over x3 his power level at the time, and I guess regenerated when shattered by petrification.
Not to mention having his arm stabbed, liquefied, and drunk by Imperfect Cell, before tearing off the shriveled husk with his remaining hand.
Piccolo is metal AF.
Can't believe I'm apparently the first one suggesting this, but...
...did it occur to anyone else that Old Kai is lying?
The guy's scheming. He was muttering about putting mental blocks in Raditz' head, now he's tricking hin into taking potara (and I doubt he's even going to explain their Fusion abilities).
"Weaker than Vegeta" my ass. He's setting up ways to control Raditz. That's it. 1 Risposta/e
DB Multiverse page 2361
...did it occur to anyone else that Old Kai is lying?
The guy's scheming. He was muttering about putting mental blocks in Raditz' head, now he's tricking hin into taking potara (and I doubt he's even going to explain their Fusion abilities).
"Weaker than Vegeta" my ass. He's setting up ways to control Raditz. That's it. 1 Risposta/e
Oh wow. Exactly like I predicted at the beginning.
Polar shows up, has no personality or character traits, they scuffle for a bit, Bojack kills him, says something vulgar, the end. Nothing learned, nothing gained, the fight wasn't even that much of a spectacle.
To quote Egon Spengler: "Short, but pointless."
Seriously, can we be done with Bojack, now? As much as Salagir and his friends love to say "we know he's a blank slate with no personality; it's a good excuse for us to make one," it'd be nice if someone actually, you know... did that.
And yes, I know another Bojack special is confirmed to be coming. Not holding my breath for it to bring anything more interesting to the table.
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Polar shows up, has no personality or character traits, they scuffle for a bit, Bojack kills him, says something vulgar, the end. Nothing learned, nothing gained, the fight wasn't even that much of a spectacle.
To quote Egon Spengler: "Short, but pointless."
Seriously, can we be done with Bojack, now? As much as Salagir and his friends love to say "we know he's a blank slate with no personality; it's a good excuse for us to make one," it'd be nice if someone actually, you know... did that.
And yes, I know another Bojack special is confirmed to be coming. Not holding my breath for it to bring anything more interesting to the table.
ZenBuu ha detto:
DarkBuster was saying: son buuwoku was saying: DarkBuster was saying: What the hell is this webcomic's dread fascination with Bojack?
Dude has had twice as many specials as everybody else, had a whole side arc with the random girls from his universe (who we still ironically know nothing about, by the way, despite the absurd amount of coverage this universe gets), and... I don't see why. They're literally the most generic "bad guy" characters dragonball ever put out, the specials have done nothing to make anyone but Bujin more interesting, the side plot went nowhere and had nothing to do with the actual narrative of DBM... Even Bujin's "character development" is totally worthless because he just immediately dies anyway.
And now they're gone, and not coming back. Yet here we are again. Why are we wasting so much time with pointless, empty characters that go nowhere, years after their barely-extant story ended? Surely there are better subjects for a special? U13 beating frieza, Gast's brushes with cell and buu, Kakarot getting immortality and killing Kami, U9 (at least the interesting parts of it, not just "world tournament without goku") is still criminally unexplored...
But nope. Bojack again. Look at him, being evil! Killing a random lackey before he kills a totally random OC frost demon who's equally undercooked and unimportant. Yaaaaaaaay.
Lmao bro relax. If you don't like the special just come back in a month or so. It's not nice of you to call some one else's work "pointless".I It's okay to have a negative opinion but be nice. Do you make your own webcomics?
That is a lazy counterargument, and everybody knows it. You don't have to be a master chef to know whether a dish tastes good or not. Criticism is always fair, this doesn't need to be a "compliments only" zone. I'm criticizing a story, not the person behind it.
But, if it means that much to you, yes, I am a writer. As a writer, I can tell you that critique is part and parcel, and my critique is that this story wastes a lot of time and energy focusing on story elements that need it least, and does not dedicate nearly enough attention to the areas that matter.
DestroyerOfVegetards was saying: DarkBuster was saying: What the hell is this webcomic's dread fascination with Bojack?
Dude has had twice as many specials as everybody else, had a whole side arc with the random girls from his universe (who we still ironically know nothing about, by the way, despite the absurd amount of coverage this universe gets), and... I don't see why. They're literally the most generic "bad guy" characters dragonball ever put out, the specials have done nothing to make anyone but Bujin more interesting, the side plot went nowhere and had nothing to do with the actual narrative of DBM... Even Bujin's "character development" is totally worthless because he just immediately dies anyway.
And now they're gone, and not coming back. Yet here we are again. Why are we wasting so much time with pointless, empty characters that go nowhere, years after their barely-extant story ended? Surely there are better subjects for a special? U13 beating frieza, Gast's brushes with cell and buu, Kakarot getting immortality and killing Kami, U9 (at least the interesting parts of it, not just "world tournament without goku") is still criminally unexplored...
But nope. Bojack again. Look at him, being evil! Killing a random lackey before he kills a totally random OC frost demon who's equally undercooked and unimportant. Yaaaaaaaay.
Come on! It's actually interesting to see interactions between villains. Let's see how Bojack gang and the Frost demons face each other. We don't have enough villain-villain interactions in DBZ or DBS.
It would be if Bojack had any personality beyond "generically mean and evil." But he doesn't. And considering he's completely unchanged by the time of the tournament, we know he's not gonna develop one, either. He has less personality than a Saturday Morning Cartoon villain, and is one curly mustache away from tying women to train tracks and waiting for Superman to swoop in.
If these specials actually explored bojack, made him a more fleshed out character, that would at least be interesting. But they don't. So far we know:
1. He broke out of a laboratory prison
2. He kills people because he's evil and feels like it.
... and that's basically it. At least Freiza, Cell, Kakarot, zen buu, ranching, etc all have distinct personalities and motivations.
How is bojack gonna interact with the frost demon? Probably by smirking, calling him some vulgar names, they'll scuffle a bit, bojack will kill him. Maybe with some help from Bujin's magic, after which he'll say "mwahahaha! that will be useful!" or something similar. The end. Riveting.
Criticizing is always fair? If it is constructive, then yes. But I assume you don't read the comments here often. Because some people here are rude af and just complain for the sake of it. Saying "this shit sucks; it's so boring; go back to the main story finally" is nothing a writer is profiting from. Besides, Salagir doesn't care for those comments, he can do whatever he wants. It's his story.
And as it's already been said, you can come back in some months, because we won't suddenly get a different chapter just because some people complain about Bojack. It is what it is.
Dude has had twice as many specials as everybody else, had a whole side arc with the random girls from his universe (who we still ironically know nothing about, by the way, despite the absurd amount of coverage this universe gets), and... I don't see why. They're literally the most generic "bad guy" characters dragonball ever put out, the specials have done nothing to make anyone but Bujin more interesting, the side plot went nowhere and had nothing to do with the actual narrative of DBM... Even Bujin's "character development" is totally worthless because he just immediately dies anyway.
And now they're gone, and not coming back. Yet here we are again. Why are we wasting so much time with pointless, empty characters that go nowhere, years after their barely-extant story ended? Surely there are better subjects for a special? U13 beating frieza, Gast's brushes with cell and buu, Kakarot getting immortality and killing Kami, U9 (at least the interesting parts of it, not just "world tournament without goku") is still criminally unexplored...
But nope. Bojack again. Look at him, being evil! Killing a random lackey before he kills a totally random OC frost demon who's equally undercooked and unimportant. Yaaaaaaaay.
Lmao bro relax. If you don't like the special just come back in a month or so. It's not nice of you to call some one else's work "pointless".I It's okay to have a negative opinion but be nice. Do you make your own webcomics?
That is a lazy counterargument, and everybody knows it. You don't have to be a master chef to know whether a dish tastes good or not. Criticism is always fair, this doesn't need to be a "compliments only" zone. I'm criticizing a story, not the person behind it.
But, if it means that much to you, yes, I am a writer. As a writer, I can tell you that critique is part and parcel, and my critique is that this story wastes a lot of time and energy focusing on story elements that need it least, and does not dedicate nearly enough attention to the areas that matter.
DestroyerOfVegetards was saying: DarkBuster was saying: What the hell is this webcomic's dread fascination with Bojack?
Dude has had twice as many specials as everybody else, had a whole side arc with the random girls from his universe (who we still ironically know nothing about, by the way, despite the absurd amount of coverage this universe gets), and... I don't see why. They're literally the most generic "bad guy" characters dragonball ever put out, the specials have done nothing to make anyone but Bujin more interesting, the side plot went nowhere and had nothing to do with the actual narrative of DBM... Even Bujin's "character development" is totally worthless because he just immediately dies anyway.
And now they're gone, and not coming back. Yet here we are again. Why are we wasting so much time with pointless, empty characters that go nowhere, years after their barely-extant story ended? Surely there are better subjects for a special? U13 beating frieza, Gast's brushes with cell and buu, Kakarot getting immortality and killing Kami, U9 (at least the interesting parts of it, not just "world tournament without goku") is still criminally unexplored...
But nope. Bojack again. Look at him, being evil! Killing a random lackey before he kills a totally random OC frost demon who's equally undercooked and unimportant. Yaaaaaaaay.
Come on! It's actually interesting to see interactions between villains. Let's see how Bojack gang and the Frost demons face each other. We don't have enough villain-villain interactions in DBZ or DBS.
It would be if Bojack had any personality beyond "generically mean and evil." But he doesn't. And considering he's completely unchanged by the time of the tournament, we know he's not gonna develop one, either. He has less personality than a Saturday Morning Cartoon villain, and is one curly mustache away from tying women to train tracks and waiting for Superman to swoop in.
If these specials actually explored bojack, made him a more fleshed out character, that would at least be interesting. But they don't. So far we know:
1. He broke out of a laboratory prison
2. He kills people because he's evil and feels like it.
... and that's basically it. At least Freiza, Cell, Kakarot, zen buu, ranching, etc all have distinct personalities and motivations.
How is bojack gonna interact with the frost demon? Probably by smirking, calling him some vulgar names, they'll scuffle a bit, bojack will kill him. Maybe with some help from Bujin's magic, after which he'll say "mwahahaha! that will be useful!" or something similar. The end. Riveting.
Criticizing is always fair? If it is constructive, then yes. But I assume you don't read the comments here often. Because some people here are rude af and just complain for the sake of it. Saying "this shit sucks; it's so boring; go back to the main story finally" is nothing a writer is profiting from. Besides, Salagir doesn't care for those comments, he can do whatever he wants. It's his story.
And as it's already been said, you can come back in some months, because we won't suddenly get a different chapter just because some people complain about Bojack. It is what it is.
And yet that's not what I'm doing; I'm not just saying "this shit sucks" and running off into the sunset. I'm genuinely curious why there is so much focus being put on a character like bojack, who, frankly, never had anything going for him, even in his own movie. Especially when he, again, has no further relevance to the DBM plot, and the most interesting part of his universe (the random girls with magic powers) still don't have a drop of backstory to them.
It's genuinely puzzling, this direction. I'm not demanding that it be changed, but I feel like saying the comic and its specials could benefit by focusing on actually relevant subject matter in future is a totally fair criticism. 3 Risposta/e
son buuwoku ha detto:
DarkBuster was saying: What the hell is this webcomic's dread fascination with Bojack?
Dude has had twice as many specials as everybody else, had a whole side arc with the random girls from his universe (who we still ironically know nothing about, by the way, despite the absurd amount of coverage this universe gets), and... I don't see why. They're literally the most generic "bad guy" characters dragonball ever put out, the specials have done nothing to make anyone but Bujin more interesting, the side plot went nowhere and had nothing to do with the actual narrative of DBM... Even Bujin's "character development" is totally worthless because he just immediately dies anyway.
And now they're gone, and not coming back. Yet here we are again. Why are we wasting so much time with pointless, empty characters that go nowhere, years after their barely-extant story ended? Surely there are better subjects for a special? U13 beating frieza, Gast's brushes with cell and buu, Kakarot getting immortality and killing Kami, U9 (at least the interesting parts of it, not just "world tournament without goku") is still criminally unexplored...
But nope. Bojack again. Look at him, being evil! Killing a random lackey before he kills a totally random OC frost demon who's equally undercooked and unimportant. Yaaaaaaaay.
Lmao bro relax. If you don't like the special just come back in a month or so. It's not nice of you to call some one else's work "pointless".I It's okay to have a negative opinion but be nice. Do you make your own webcomics?
Dude has had twice as many specials as everybody else, had a whole side arc with the random girls from his universe (who we still ironically know nothing about, by the way, despite the absurd amount of coverage this universe gets), and... I don't see why. They're literally the most generic "bad guy" characters dragonball ever put out, the specials have done nothing to make anyone but Bujin more interesting, the side plot went nowhere and had nothing to do with the actual narrative of DBM... Even Bujin's "character development" is totally worthless because he just immediately dies anyway.
And now they're gone, and not coming back. Yet here we are again. Why are we wasting so much time with pointless, empty characters that go nowhere, years after their barely-extant story ended? Surely there are better subjects for a special? U13 beating frieza, Gast's brushes with cell and buu, Kakarot getting immortality and killing Kami, U9 (at least the interesting parts of it, not just "world tournament without goku") is still criminally unexplored...
But nope. Bojack again. Look at him, being evil! Killing a random lackey before he kills a totally random OC frost demon who's equally undercooked and unimportant. Yaaaaaaaay.
Lmao bro relax. If you don't like the special just come back in a month or so. It's not nice of you to call some one else's work "pointless".I It's okay to have a negative opinion but be nice. Do you make your own webcomics?
That is a lazy counterargument, and everybody knows it. You don't have to be a master chef to know whether a dish tastes good or not. Criticism is always fair, this doesn't need to be a "compliments only" zone. I'm criticizing a story, not the person behind it.
But, if it means that much to you, yes, I am a writer. As a writer, I can tell you that critique is part and parcel, and my critique is that this story wastes a lot of time and energy focusing on story elements that need it least, and does not dedicate nearly enough attention to the areas that matter.
DestroyerOfVegetards ha detto:
DarkBuster was saying: What the hell is this webcomic's dread fascination with Bojack?
Dude has had twice as many specials as everybody else, had a whole side arc with the random girls from his universe (who we still ironically know nothing about, by the way, despite the absurd amount of coverage this universe gets), and... I don't see why. They're literally the most generic "bad guy" characters dragonball ever put out, the specials have done nothing to make anyone but Bujin more interesting, the side plot went nowhere and had nothing to do with the actual narrative of DBM... Even Bujin's "character development" is totally worthless because he just immediately dies anyway.
And now they're gone, and not coming back. Yet here we are again. Why are we wasting so much time with pointless, empty characters that go nowhere, years after their barely-extant story ended? Surely there are better subjects for a special? U13 beating frieza, Gast's brushes with cell and buu, Kakarot getting immortality and killing Kami, U9 (at least the interesting parts of it, not just "world tournament without goku") is still criminally unexplored...
But nope. Bojack again. Look at him, being evil! Killing a random lackey before he kills a totally random OC frost demon who's equally undercooked and unimportant. Yaaaaaaaay.
Come on! It's actually interesting to see interactions between villains. Let's see how Bojack gang and the Frost demons face each other. We don't have enough villain-villain interactions in DBZ or DBS.
Dude has had twice as many specials as everybody else, had a whole side arc with the random girls from his universe (who we still ironically know nothing about, by the way, despite the absurd amount of coverage this universe gets), and... I don't see why. They're literally the most generic "bad guy" characters dragonball ever put out, the specials have done nothing to make anyone but Bujin more interesting, the side plot went nowhere and had nothing to do with the actual narrative of DBM... Even Bujin's "character development" is totally worthless because he just immediately dies anyway.
And now they're gone, and not coming back. Yet here we are again. Why are we wasting so much time with pointless, empty characters that go nowhere, years after their barely-extant story ended? Surely there are better subjects for a special? U13 beating frieza, Gast's brushes with cell and buu, Kakarot getting immortality and killing Kami, U9 (at least the interesting parts of it, not just "world tournament without goku") is still criminally unexplored...
But nope. Bojack again. Look at him, being evil! Killing a random lackey before he kills a totally random OC frost demon who's equally undercooked and unimportant. Yaaaaaaaay.
Come on! It's actually interesting to see interactions between villains. Let's see how Bojack gang and the Frost demons face each other. We don't have enough villain-villain interactions in DBZ or DBS.
It would be if Bojack had any personality beyond "generically mean and evil." But he doesn't. And considering he's completely unchanged by the time of the tournament, we know he's not gonna develop one, either. He has less personality than a Saturday Morning Cartoon villain, and is one curly mustache away from tying women to train tracks and waiting for Superman to swoop in.
If these specials actually explored bojack, made him a more fleshed out character, that would at least be interesting. But they don't. So far we know:
1. He broke out of a laboratory prison
2. He kills people because he's evil and feels like it.
... and that's basically it. At least Freiza, Cell, Kakarot, zen buu, ranching, etc all have distinct personalities and motivations.
How is bojack gonna interact with the frost demon? Probably by smirking, calling him some vulgar names, they'll scuffle a bit, bojack will kill him. Maybe with some help from Bujin's magic, after which he'll say "mwahahaha! that will be useful!" or something similar. The end. Riveting. 4 Risposta/e
What the hell is this webcomic's dread fascination with Bojack?
Dude has had twice as many specials as everybody else, had a whole side arc with the random girls from his universe (who we still ironically know nothing about, by the way, despite the absurd amount of coverage this universe gets), and... I don't see why. They're literally the most generic "bad guy" characters dragonball ever put out, the specials have done nothing to make anyone but Bujin more interesting, the side plot went nowhere and had nothing to do with the actual narrative of DBM... Even Bujin's "character development" is totally worthless because he just immediately dies anyway.
And now they're gone, and not coming back. Yet here we are again. Why are we wasting so much time with pointless, empty characters that go nowhere, years after their barely-extant story ended? Surely there are better subjects for a special? U13 beating frieza, Gast's brushes with cell and buu, Kakarot getting immortality and killing Kami, U9 (at least the interesting parts of it, not just "world tournament without goku") is still criminally unexplored...
But nope. Bojack again. Look at him, being evil! Killing a random lackey before he kills a totally random OC frost demon who's equally undercooked and unimportant. Yaaaaaaaay. 7 Risposta/e
DB Multiverse page 2281
Dude has had twice as many specials as everybody else, had a whole side arc with the random girls from his universe (who we still ironically know nothing about, by the way, despite the absurd amount of coverage this universe gets), and... I don't see why. They're literally the most generic "bad guy" characters dragonball ever put out, the specials have done nothing to make anyone but Bujin more interesting, the side plot went nowhere and had nothing to do with the actual narrative of DBM... Even Bujin's "character development" is totally worthless because he just immediately dies anyway.
And now they're gone, and not coming back. Yet here we are again. Why are we wasting so much time with pointless, empty characters that go nowhere, years after their barely-extant story ended? Surely there are better subjects for a special? U13 beating frieza, Gast's brushes with cell and buu, Kakarot getting immortality and killing Kami, U9 (at least the interesting parts of it, not just "world tournament without goku") is still criminally unexplored...
But nope. Bojack again. Look at him, being evil! Killing a random lackey before he kills a totally random OC frost demon who's equally undercooked and unimportant. Yaaaaaaaay. 7 Risposta/e
Wait a minute.
Mr. Popo was absolutely manhandling Kid Goku when they met. Like, "effortlessly catching punches, barely even needing to do anything" levels of manhandling.
And that was a kid goku who had powered up beyond, and then killed, a full power, prime King Piccolo.
Why on earth is he needing to put in so much effort against starter-king-piccolo's weak sauce spawn? 1 Risposta/e
Namekseijin Densetsu page 289
Mr. Popo was absolutely manhandling Kid Goku when they met. Like, "effortlessly catching punches, barely even needing to do anything" levels of manhandling.
And that was a kid goku who had powered up beyond, and then killed, a full power, prime King Piccolo.
Why on earth is he needing to put in so much effort against starter-king-piccolo's weak sauce spawn? 1 Risposta/e
So I'm guessing the issue is that they just assumed the gravity of the room would keep him pinned forever.
And instead, he just got stronger, and got out. And due to the time dilation, it took basically no time at all. 1 Risposta/e
Namekseijin Densetsu page 225
And instead, he just got stronger, and got out. And due to the time dilation, it took basically no time at all. 1 Risposta/e
goten-kun ha detto:
You tend to think that he has an element of wickedness, that he has done bad things. But this is not the case. he just has a little bit of vice lurking deep inside him, like every human, even the nicest one.
Showing his daily life among humans would, I think, have been boring because not a lot happened to him, in my mind anyway.
Showing his daily life among humans would, I think, have been boring because not a lot happened to him, in my mind anyway.
The problem is, the premise as it stands is flawed. He gained vice by just passively existing among people, but has not shown any of it, at all.
That premise doesn't really work. Goku was pure of heart, even after he met other people. Even if you want to argue that he was special, Gohan and Goten ended up exactly the same. Even Chi-chi, who was raised among humans as near-royalty her whole life, by the ox king when he was at his worst, was pure of heart all the way into adulthood, as she could ride Nimbus. By the time of Buu, Killin had earned his "pure" status, as had piccolo.
The idea that he just intrinsically has vague "vices" without ever showing a single one foesn't really stick, under the circumstances. There's too many in-universe examples that go against that idea.
Simple. This "XXI" isn't XXI. We know from the shadows we've seen in the apartments that this body is just a puppet the real master in the shadows is using. Because the puppet is technically a "part" of the real XXI, he's been fulfilling the "must touch the ring" rule. Now that the proxy is gone the REAL xxi may finally show himself.
2 Risposta/e
DB Multiverse page 1980
And yes, I'm including the kakarot/raditz fusion fakeout