It might just be something with grammar, but by saying 'Your Ikari Mode', it seems like the King does have it, but isn't using it for some reason. Maybe because he can't control it as well as others do? My guess is that he's strong enough to somewhat keep up with Kanba without it but would really cause some destruction if he did use it. That or the power scaling on this is on such a lower end that even that multiplier doesn't change it that much; like 10 vs 100 is a difference of 90, but 1000 vs 10,000 is 9000 apart in terms of scaling 1 Réponse(s)

I'm wondering myself how much of I'K'L and how much of XXI is affecting South Kai, it feels like with how this presence was presented on the first page with the black smoke-like tendrils, that XXI definitely has a hand in this. Adding onto that, with South specifically getting Vargas tech to plan to send specific universes away, it also conflicts with what I'K'L last tried to do versus what XXI would want out of this.

If I'K'L was truly giving South Kai a rundown through his powers, I'd imagine with XXI being the biggest threat he saw that he'd make that most vocal, or go off the plan to strand everyone there for the sake of the other universes. Instead, we see South planning to now eliminate everyone and has done everything in his power to ignore anything that would immediately speak ill of XXI so far, conveniently enough.

It may just be his arrogance and the way his mind has been twisted, but it does add something into the potential mix. 1 Réponse(s)

I would imagine it'd be a lot the same, considering Toriyama still had parts and notes for both the Moro and Granolah Arcs. It's fine if you don't go for the Manga's interpretation of things, but for me, I feel like there's at least attempts in there to explain and justify things that the anime passes over. Giving more levity to Super Saiyan God as a form so that it's not something that is hardly used once they got Blue the very next arc, comparing the downsides of it to the same as what Golden Frieza was having, of the immense stamina drain from not having it perfected and everything leaking out, and Goku and Vegeta only having a bit more time in using it that edged them out over Frieza.

The anime constantly bringing in characters that would have to be dealt with specifically with Blue in confrontations made it feel much less special and just felt like the new norm. And when we've experienced all those downsides to the form and the opportunities for perfected other forms to fight with using UI, TUI, and UE, it had some meaning and levity tied back into those forms. Blue was given downsides and needed ways to counteract those downsides, which was good to have for a form, and it pushed the two towards more and to continue getting stronger when even honing in on that form wasn't enough to stop certain threats like Jiren and Broly. And Black Frieza, although extremely brief in the encounter, was a concern for Vegeta after he had to deal with both being thrashed by Broly and being introduced to Gogeta.

Yeaahhhhh, Super def has some jank power scaling across the board, both Toei's and Toyotaro's versions, and especially in this arc. I always personally felt like Toyotaro's variation was at least the better of the two, considering the things that both sources share were likely direct notes from Toriyama, his depictions were at least more grounded. 1 Réponse(s)

There's also how the Manga handled it, where it's essentially explained that Goku Black was farming Trunks for Zenkais to get closer to the true potential of Goku's Body and improve. When Trunks and Goku square off in the past, Trunk's SSJ2 is equal in strength to Goku's SSJ3 due to the amount of Zenkais Trunks has gone through, improving his base strength. Meanwhile Trunks remarks that this strength still isn't enough to face off against Goku Black, who at most has Super Saiyan 2 at that point in the story. Which when thinking about it that way, I suppose it would mean in terms of Base Forms the Power Scaling would be Goku Black > Trunks > Goku = Vegeta 1 Réponse(s)

Definitely seems like it'd be because it equalizes power levels but not techniques or skill. Syd tries to win this over by attacking quickly while most opponents would be mixed up, going for quick take downs and not drawn out fights, because if the fight were to get drawn out, we see that there aren't any techniques that she has available. Can't even fly which puts her at a major disadvantage against most anyone she might go up against, especially in this tournament.

From my understanding on things as far as what DBS has tried to do with its alt timelines;

Beerus created an alternate timeline because he had Whis wind back time because he wanted hard evidence of Zamasu killing Gowasu. Because of this, it creates an alternate timeline because any time traveling backwards not using the Time Rings results in an alternate timeline. (Though this would likely mean that there's one for Frieza destroying Earth?)

Both Trunks and Beerus traveling backwards at different points result in a Goku Black, and that Goku Black recruits the Zamasu from Future Trunks' timeline which is the immortal Zamasu. That one seems to be entirely eliminated from this equation due to Zeno's Erasure.

That leaves us with this Goku Black from the alternate timeline created by Beerus' decision and actions that Mai and Trunks have been dropped into.

Certainly a web to untangle, but I've seen far more complicated ones in Homestuck (unfortunately)

Coloring turned out amazing here, especially on that last panel!
Was hoping this might have been one of the fights that got extended at least a little bit, but looks like it's coming to a close soon still. Poor Raditz 1 Réponse(s)

My guess on this would be because he'd be living with a more Peaceful version of his race. Universe 6 Saiyans help their Universe rather than having tried to take it over, but are still plenty strong themselves. A more calm atmosphere probably would have been a good call to help reinforce Broly's mental training. Although, in hindsight we see that either due to Broly snapping at some point or the King wishing to use Broly's immense power for something else, he's going back to a situation of having a shock collar, unfortunate for the lad.

To clarify a bit of what is going on with this timeline;

Trunks and Mai are returning to a point in time on a different timeline of their own, a splintered one created when Beerus killed Zamasu. That point in time is before the arrival of Dabura and Zamasu, so Supreme Kai and Beerus will both still be alive. 'Future Selves' seems a bit weird here, as the pair here would be the ones from further down the timeline, it's likely said from the basis of when they are at currently.

This does indeed lead to a situation where there are 2 pairs of Trunks and Mai existing in the same timeline. Trunks should be plenty strong enough now to easily dispose of Dabura, and Zamasu can't as easily step into the full swing of things since Shin and Beerus are both still around (Though this assumes either is doing their job correctly). Beerus has allowed the idea of them going to the other timeline, but doesn't want them all to rely on the gods for everything, so this timeline's Beerus will not be informed of the Zamasu shenanigans.

However, what happens from this point onward with these ideas in place is up to the author, should prove interesting!