Wow...that's harsh. But that is Vegeta's side talking there.

Vegetto as a abusive father confirmed.
Makes you wonder if Bra chose the Majin or she was forced to take it because she does feel her life is in danger.

Turbocharger was saying: Vegito rampage suddenly looking pretty understandable and realistic.

slushie was saying: Vegetto as a abusive father confirmed.
Makes you wonder if Bra chose the Majin or she was forced to take it because she does feel her life is in danger.

A Majin powerup won't be enough for her to close the gap.
It may not have been the powerup alone she wanted, but a promise to live in her own universe, away from her dad.


Son Bra is Fine was saying: This is ridiculous and makes zero sense. It completely throws away any sense of logic. Vegito is a combination of Goku and Vegeta's best traits. His personality has no reason to be muderous to his children. Not Goku or Vegeta EVER showed traits like this.
Not just there best, but worst as well. Vegeta's pride and Goku believing he is the one who has to save everyone.
It actually makes sense, Goku doesn't end up getting family at all, Vegeta does but he also never lets a threat survive. If Vegetto ended up having to fight her at full power he will kill her, no questions asked.



kkk was saying: What if Vegetto's reason for killing Bra was that he sensed dark and destructive tendencies in Bra, so he has to put her down before she becomes too powerful for him to contain, to keep the universe safe? Would you guys still call him an abusive father?

And what if Vegetto was saying this as a warning to Bra, to force her to behave well, like "You'd better control your destructive tendencies before the day you surpass me, otherwise I'll have to kill you"?
Um no it would still make him a terrible trucking dad. You don't threaten a 9 year old with death, period. You see why they have destructive tendencies, you love them and you try to show them no matter how they feel inside they can talk to you... You don't beat them half to death and promise to kill them.

Grash was saying: Vegetto is a fusion of:

1. A man who took a bullet to the chest to protect his son from raditz
2. Another man who suicide bombed himself to save his son from majin buu

There is absolutely ZERO reason for such a man to want to ever kill his child. Goku was proud to see Gohan surpass him against cell. Vegeta was proud of future trunks for surpassing super saiyan in the cell saga. These are both proud saiyan fathers who want their sons to be strong. There is no reason that their fusion would want his kids to be weak.

The only ways to make this work is to pull a DB minus and retcon the motives of these characters from the very beginning. Or they can say that in DBM the potara causes insanity in mortals because they don't have the stability to tolerate it. Otherwise this is shitty writing.

Veggetto is also the fusion of a man who
1. A man who sent his son against a monster, and healed the darn thing up to full power.
2. A man who was more then willing to kill his own son from the future to fight perfect cell.

There is absolute reason for such a man to kill a threat. Goku didn't understand Gohan wasn't a fighter, he doesn't understand family. Vegeta hated Future Trunks and had no family bond till later. This Vegeta threw away his goodness to kill a rival.

Dang Vegetto Why Man Must Be From Vegeta Side I Assume

Shes gonna kill 18 bra and Ultiamte Raditz will beta her.but maybe hyper buu will kill babidi before that thus setting bra free.

One page of dialogue down, possibly another to go and then U16 Bra will be alone...

Ya know honestly u16 bra is right u18 bra is a worthless ally I mean at this point even Yamaha a more useful ally then her

U18 Bra and U1 Dai Kaioshin are wrong for both the right reasons and the wrong reasons.

That most female shonen characters chose to be housewives who lack plot relevance instead of becoming plot relevant badass fighters prove that U18 Bra is the wrong one.

It is actually U18 Bra who is the slave of her fears. By choosing to become another shonen housewife who lacks plot relevance instead of becoming a plot relevant badass fighter, U18 Bra is a slave of gender stereotypes (in fact she needs Gohan to save her), a slave of the patriarchy, a slave of her fears (waiting for Gohan to save her instead of kicking Nappa on the groin), a slave of shonen cliches, a slave of the distressed damsel trope (in fact Nappa took her hostage).

Meanwhile Majin Bra has the guts, proactivity, badassery and willpower to choose to be different than the aforementioned gender stereotypes. Majin Bra chose to be in charge of her own destiny instead of becoming another shonen housewife.

Majin Bra was never anyone's slave.

Like Majin Vegeta, Majin Bra is actually a willing servant, a serf, not a slave; there is a difference. If your master gives you everything that you want as payment for your services, you are actually a serf, not a slave.

Like Majin Vegeta, Majin Bra was never anyone's slave.

Even if Majin Bra is a space wizard's serf, she still did so on her own terms, because she did so in return of him giving her everything she has always wanted.

MrPerson0 was saying: Will be interesting to see if U16 Bra goes for the kill here.I agree. Having a ruthless female villain who actually kills all of her opponents is something that has never been done on shonen before, it was not done on shonen fanfics yet either. If Majin Bra actually kills all of her opponents, it would subvert expectations.

Even if Majin Bra kills all of her opponents, there are still ways for the fighters to get revived and having the tournament continue, thus Majin Bra can win kill all of her opponents without ending the tournament.

Friendly reminder that is it actually U18 Bra who is the slave to her own fears, because she is the one who is the distressed damsel both now and when Nappa took her hostage. Heck, U18 Bra is a slave to her own fears who can't even take care of herself, because she is forced to depend on the likes of Gohan to save her, because she is too afraid and too cowardly to try to becoming an independent badass capable of taking care of herself without having to depend on the likes of Gohan babysiting her.

U18 Bra not wanting to train is not an excuse for her being Nappa's hostage, because she could just have taken a gun, a bad ring laser, a taser, a club or something, and then use it against Nappa, but no, U18 Bra is too cowardly to try to do any of that. U18 Bra is the one who is the slave of her own fears.

Meanwhile, Majin Bra is an independent person who can take care of herself and does not need people like Gohan to babysit her, thus she is not a slave of her own fears, because she does not fear anyone, because she can actually take care of herself even when her dad is not around to save her.

XJSPlays02 was saying: U18 Bra Is Right U16 Bra Is WorthlessDragon Ball Z, GT and Super already has Bulma, Bra, Chi-Chi, Android 18, Videl and Gohan becoming shonen housewives who lack plot relevance instead of plot relevant badass fighters, thus U18 Bra is wrong.

Majin Bra may have made a deal with a space wizard but that is still much more dignified, proactive, empowering and badass than being another stereotypical shonen housewive like U18 Bra is destine to be. Making a deal with a space wizard is still more dignified, proactive, empowering and badass than being Nappa's hostage like U18 Bra did.

U18 Bra is calling someone "worthless" while she (U18 Bra) is degrading herself kneeling down and crying. Meanwhile Majin Bra is a badass who was proudly standing on top of a deity's corpse that she herself killed by her bare hands.

Friendly reminder that Majin Bra is not the one who was degrading herself kneeling down and crying.

Said what you want about Majin Bra, but at least she is not the loser who kneels down and cries.

Evenmoardakka was saying: But we all know the outcome here, yet another body.Yes, I want to see Majin Bra actually winning this fight.

Kalenz was saying: U18 Bra will be vaporized into a fine red mist.On fiction, being wrong genre savvy normally has consequences. U18 Bra lives on a shonen world, yet she chose to be passive instead of a proactive badass.

Moth was saying: Well shit. She actually got a word in edge-wise before U16 punches her head off. Nice.I would like to see Majin Bra practice sports, using U18 Bra's head as the ball.

Saito_Daemon was saying: Meanwhile U18 Bra will probably point out flaws U16 Bra has that she caved in from for this power only to have given into the flaws she feared in the first place, at least that's what I'm hoping. If not it will still be interesting.It is actually U18 Bra the one who is afraid to the point that she is crying on her knees, while Majin Bra has been on a position of power during this arc.

OmniGogeta was saying: I wouldn't be surprised if U16 bra just kills U18 bra right there like she's been doing for this whole saga.This chapter cover showed Majin Bra using her energy sword technique. Maybe Majin Bra is goung to use her energy sword on U18 Bra.

Yami_kuro was saying: Lol but my comment still stands right. She couldn't do anything and cry like a B***H, so gonna complain about it and call her worthlessIndeed. It is U18 Bra the one who is both the slave to her fears and a slave to other things as I mentioned above.

Dukke Monterier was saying: And then she dies.And without turning into a ssj.

Chives was saying: Ponytail Bra's not looking so afraid.U18 Bra crying on her knees is the complete opposite of what a brave person would actually do on her situation. U18 Bra is distressed and afraid.

CrystalMV was saying: It's ironic that U18 Bra is closer to what U16 Bra seeks to be. U18 Bra may have less physical power but she's in controlNo. Majin Bra seeks to become a badass fighter who is plot relevant. Like Gohan did on Super, U18 Bra seeks to become another shonen housewive who lacks plot relevance.

U18 Bra needing Gohan to save her is the opposite of being in control of the situation. U18 Bra is passive instead of proactive, thus she has never been the one in charge of the situation.

Moth was saying: All this time U18 Bra seemed to be treated like a shadow of her U16 self.Because U18 Bra is actually a disgrace to her saiyan family even if they are too nice to say it to her face.

Son Bra at least tries to make her family proud by embracing her family heritage, family legacy and family duties, she may be a sadistic murderous psychopath about it to the point that she was willing to take the risk of making a deal by Babidi, but she at least still tried to make her family proud even if she used the wrong methods to try to do so. Son Bra at least tried.