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Im pretty sure peak humans in classic DB are around 300 power level. Goku after kami training and piccolo jr were 800-900 at their peak. Calm roshi was 130. Flexed roshi should be doubled at least. Gigachad roshi can be even 500, but slow af. Those saiyan low class kids can be 200, as well as tao.
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DB Multiverse page 2003
Fab was saying:
Thanks to everyone, I'm glad you like the art, especially Bulma who gave me a really hard time. I was not convinced with the result (female eye in Toriyama's style is really specific)
Your art is awesome man, you are clearly one of the best Special-artist for whole dbm history. Keep up!
This is amazing. I want to see it.
Mystic Fused Gohan is overkill.
He would be several times stronger than SSJ3 Vegetto. Also he will have no split personality - he basically stays intact, same persona, just a little more memories. And TWO wifes. Oh, man. What a life.
DB Multiverse page 1992
Shabby was saying:
Gohan is strong, but he won't win. Including him is silly.
Gohan's only chance is fusion.
Gohan's only chance is fusion.
Mystic Fused Gohan is overkill.
He would be several times stronger than SSJ3 Vegetto. Also he will have no split personality - he basically stays intact, same persona, just a little more memories. And TWO wifes. Oh, man. What a life.
So, my biggest comment ever was deleted cause i destroyed fat kai in philosophical discourse =//// wtf
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Slave morality is incelfascist-Nietzsche term, he called a slave literally everyone who dont live with their mothers at their 40 unlike him.Nietzsche is meme philosophy - name everything good is bad, everything bad is good, and enjoy butthurt of mentally healthy people. 2 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 1988
Squirz was saying:
Ouroboros was saying: the fool forgot he lives in his own universe not another
True! He has no authority over other universes.
He's logic is also incredibly flawed. While there are infinite universes, universes on themselves are finite in size. And he is the head of his universe.
Your average home compared to whole world seems insignificant, however it's your home.
Letting out dangerous beast out of it's cage just because there is a probability of positive change is stupid! Tragedy in billions of universes is still a tragedy. Kakarot of U13 is still psychotic murderer despite existence of Goku.
Universes like 9,12,16,18 are mainly that way because of the people who stood against evil.
@DrewSaga
True murdering a child just because of probability they become evil is cruel. However, I mostly meant when it's clear and cut that being is dangerous.
True! He has no authority over other universes.
He's logic is also incredibly flawed. While there are infinite universes, universes on themselves are finite in size. And he is the head of his universe.
Your average home compared to whole world seems insignificant, however it's your home.
Letting out dangerous beast out of it's cage just because there is a probability of positive change is stupid! Tragedy in billions of universes is still a tragedy. Kakarot of U13 is still psychotic murderer despite existence of Goku.
Universes like 9,12,16,18 are mainly that way because of the people who stood against evil.
@DrewSaga
True murdering a child just because of probability they become evil is cruel. However, I mostly meant when it's clear and cut that being is dangerous.
You are right
Kolonel Kurtz was saying:
Is this dragon ball? We are discussing moral relativism at this point, the nature of light and atoms. This is just weird, and the grand Kaio is not convincing in his explanation, Bu literally tried to take over the tournament. Morality is subjective, especially when we take into consideration different species (aliens). What is good? what is moral? Its a question we have asked since our beginning, at first we used religion to determine that, but in the real world Gods are not proven to exist, in the dragon ball world they are, and their job is to protect and create new planets, morality should come from them, right? Well at this point we arrive at what Plato said in his "symposium" do the gods choose what is right or wrong? Or they have no choice in the matter? Then who does decide? When you read dragon ball do you ever think any of this? I think it's a good thing when a fan work expands on the original, but this is just another level of insanity, I'm sorry but dragon ball was never meant to be this, it's a "simple" series especially in its metaphysics, we literally have an heaven and hell, on what basis are souls judged in the dragon ball universe? Simple they follow our normal morality, which is basically the one the kais have, the usual "slave morality" . Dragon ball is not deep, at least not in this sense. Do I agree with the grand Kaio? I'm not gonna express myself, there are too many things to take into consideration (like gods being real, other species existing etc, we already go in a direction that is radically different from our normal vision of the universe).
Slave morality is incelfascist-Nietzsche term, he called a slave literally everyone who dont live with their mothers at their 40 unlike him.Nietzsche is meme philosophy - name everything good is bad, everything bad is good, and enjoy butthurt of mentally healthy people. 2 Replie(s)
Its kinda funny cause ZenBuu is maximized SuperBuu and SuperBuu is Kidbuu with complete domination over Supremekai, unlike Fatbuu its total and brutal absorption.
How can he still relate himself to the Supreme Kai? 1 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 1987
How can he still relate himself to the Supreme Kai? 1 Replie(s)
Ok. This fight was even more anticlimactic than CellVegeta.
Buu chan cant be oneshotted.
DB Multiverse page 1984
Buu chan cant be oneshotted.
Buu-chan, please, fight back, i wanna see fight longer
DB Multiverse page 1983
What? I've never thought that Not_Future Trunks is such a tech-gifted. Damn, he's not even studied. Dr.Brief designed babies strikes again? Truly a fridge horror.
How tf can Gohan even compete? Why tf he dedicated all his life to science, if Briefs metahumans are like 100x times more gifted than him , lol.
DB Multiverse page 1978
How tf can Gohan even compete? Why tf he dedicated all his life to science, if Briefs metahumans are like 100x times more gifted than him , lol.
Magic sucks, literally OP, even brainless Buu and weakling babidi were a treats - now imagine SSJ3+ lvl character with magic. GG. Salagir should introduce some counters to that madness. Like toyataro involved anti-fusion in DBS.
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DB Multiverse page 1977
Beautiful chapter. Thats what we need after vegeta\cell lamest fight ever. I still feel traumatized. So this chapter is a cure.
DB Multiverse page 1976
Tych was saying:
a universe where Yamcha isn't afraid of Vegeta for some reason I can help but believe next page KaiserNeko and Lanipator will hand Prince Vegeta a bat that will utterly break Yamcha without killing him and everyone letting him just go to town on Yamcha
The only thing Yamcha was afraid is girls. Im still hate nowadays how Toriyama cucked Yamcha to get more money from vegeta's fanboys, he was a solid secondary character in original DB, and vegeta was a frustrated betamale all DBZ. Funny thing that Vegeta is cool only in non-toriyama sequels like DBM or DBS. I love how he smart and reasonable in DBS or DBM for example, but in DBZ he was a literal nobrain jerk. Goddamned, Toriyama. I've heard that in some of american dubs they even made it like Yamcha cheated on Bulma to cope with that, not like she dumped him cause she's baka-thot like in japanese original.
乌山明 was saying:
Kerosinelamp was saying:
Mass produced food is something we have since 19th century, yet the cooking still exists.
even when millions of audiences waiting for the meal there?
Mass produced food is something we have since 19th century, yet the cooking still exists.
even when millions of audiences waiting for the meal there?
They dont expected so much food would be need. Also its possible, i've seen a cooking pots in India size of swimming pool, like 15000 litre (respect, but they clearly need to do something with their overpopulation, meh)
乌山明 was saying:
so the Vargas have technology to travel across universes, build a stadium for millions of audiences, control the gravity and set a barrier which can block Vegeto and Broly's blast
but still need to manually cook, even for millions of audiences??
but still need to manually cook, even for millions of audiences??
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Nice special, i actually want for good girls to win.
DB Multiverse page 1968
Our Lord ans Saviour Berrizo came back to save us from the misery vegetacell fight was.
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DB Multiverse page 1951
So Cell nucleus can withstand full power of Enraged Mystic Gohan Kamehameha
But Vegeta can just casually PSHHT it with one hand. 1 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 1949
But Vegeta can just casually PSHHT it with one hand. 1 Replie(s)
The people here are so confused how to scale current u18 ss3 lol. It got raped by mere peaked Uub but still somehow can kill mystic-tier fighter.
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DB Multiverse page 1948
Doctor Proteus was saying:
Sorry but I didn't like this match. SS3 Vegeta being at or above SS2 Majin Bra's level just seems weird. Cell was able to pose a moderate challenge to a blood-lusted Bra, and Vegeta just easily beat Cell. Lame. Unless this isn't over and Vegeta just reduced his ability to regenerate?
Exactly my thoughts. Mere SSJ3 shouldnt even damage Cell.
How SSJ3 can punch through the mystic so easily? I dont understand power levels anymore.
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DB Multiverse page 1947
Leveler was saying:
Kerosinelamp was saying: This could be most humiliating fight
Unlike Toyatoro, i doubt salagir is vegeta fanboy
I'd think twice about that. In Super, Vegeta's new thin just got humiliated again.
Unlike Toyatoro, i doubt salagir is vegeta fanboy
I'd think twice about that. In Super, Vegeta's new thin just got humiliated again.
In super, Vegeta became second antagonist, equal goku partner like in buddy or police movies, became actually smart and reasonable - not just frustrated betamale with anger management and daddy issues like he was in Z - and even got his new own form and techniques - while in Z he was just a minor caste - and doesnt even existed in original dragonball btw - so yeah, i think Toyataro is Vegeta fanboy. 1 Replie(s)
This could be most humiliating fight
Unlike Toyatoro, i doubt salagir is vegeta fanboy 2 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 1927
Unlike Toyatoro, i doubt salagir is vegeta fanboy 2 Replie(s)
They should have called Berrizo for the upcoming Cell fight
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DB Multiverse page 1925
Hell yeah!
He cant, while Gohan is here.
DB Multiverse page 1924
Goku Uchiha was saying:
I’m happy to see Gokü (I) have won, but at the same time. I am also happy that Uub proved that he is capable of standing strong for Universe 18, and eventually him taking the mantle of “Earth’s greatest warrior”.
He cant, while Gohan is here.
Uub is even more of Mary Sue than Son Bra - at least she didnt asspulled some magic tricks making her 10 times stronger without transformations.
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DB Multiverse page 1923
Aca the Legend was saying:
OMG so dumb fight, guess Goku forgot about instant transmission lol
And btw SSJ3 getting disrespected again, that's just phenomenal.
It was really important that Bra got her shine, fuck everyone else I guess
This is starting to get really disappointing...
And btw SSJ3 getting disrespected again, that's just phenomenal.
It was really important that Bra got her shine, fuck everyone else I guess
This is starting to get really disappointing...
Have you read DMB novelization? Noticed disquisting permanent Uub boner depictions about Bra? Imagine if all this comic for decades was "how i met your mother" story
Wake up Goku, you have asspulled MarySue to burn.
DB Multiverse page 1922
DrewSaga was saying:
Why would it make little sense, Uub basically nearly destroyed his own body powering up that much. Majin SSJ2 Vegeta was no match for Majin Buu but Vegeta nearly killed Buu when he self-destructed.
Why would it make little sense, Uub basically nearly destroyed his own body powering up that much. Majin SSJ2 Vegeta was no match for Majin Buu but Vegeta nearly killed Buu when he self-destructed.
Self-destroyed SSJ2 = casual SSJ3 attack in terms of desctructive power. Chiaotzu didnt have a good self-destruct experience either. If Uub is Buu tier with Maximum Kaioken(tm), then Kaioken Transcended(tm) cannot be much higher than vanillaplus Buu's like Buff or Super.
Current Cell is about Angry Mystic Gohan tier in raw power + regeneration cheat, so basically Buutenks tier.
If Goku and Vegeta are equals there, UUB defeating Goku will mean Uub stronger than Buutenks, and it will make no sense. 1 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 1920
If Goku and Vegeta are equals there, UUB defeating Goku will mean Uub stronger than Buutenks, and it will make no sense. 1 Replie(s)
JaegrM was saying:
I have an inherent dislike of Uub as a character.
He's Buu reincarnated so he has a lot of potential. Fine. But he's still human. He should top out at Tien level.
Even though he's been training with Goku for a few years, how is he surpassing Gohan or Gotenks? Let alone Goku?
He made secondary characters into tertiary characters and put Krillin and Piccolo completely out of business.
Nevermind that Goku never even taught Gohan whose potential is supposed to be beyond his own, kaioken... now Uub has surpassed Goku's own ability with his signature technique?
This would have been a good opportunity to have Goku show off his prowess as a teacher. Mimicking Vegeta vs Future Trunks earlier fight or maybe Roshi in the ToP from DBS's manga.
But now Goku is just looking weak by being outclassed by Uub.
He's Buu reincarnated so he has a lot of potential. Fine. But he's still human. He should top out at Tien level.
Even though he's been training with Goku for a few years, how is he surpassing Gohan or Gotenks? Let alone Goku?
He made secondary characters into tertiary characters and put Krillin and Piccolo completely out of business.
Nevermind that Goku never even taught Gohan whose potential is supposed to be beyond his own, kaioken... now Uub has surpassed Goku's own ability with his signature technique?
This would have been a good opportunity to have Goku show off his prowess as a teacher. Mimicking Vegeta vs Future Trunks earlier fight or maybe Roshi in the ToP from DBS's manga.
But now Goku is just looking weak by being outclassed by Uub.
Exactly my thoughts. Current UUB looks like Mary Sue. 2 Replie(s)
Grydon was saying:
Uub could have more potential than Gohan, but as long as he is comparable to Goku which he definitely is at this point, I don’t think they will reach Buutenks level as that was above Gohan.
Uub could have more potential than Gohan, but as long as he is comparable to Goku which he definitely is at this point, I don’t think they will reach Buutenks level as that was above Gohan.
But how? Uub potential is Kid Buu restrained by human body.
The main question is
Can Zen Buu use Kaioken? 1 Replie(s)
DB Multiverse page 1907
Can Zen Buu use Kaioken? 1 Replie(s)
Artiel what a hell did i just read?
1 - Babidi cant sense power levels
2 - Royal Vegeta is half-baked ssj3 and nowhere as strong as Gohan
3 - Babidi is from timeline without Cell - he encountered much weaker Z fighters
4 - Uub is still a mere human. Mary Sue Magic Human with Vast Potential. But still human.
DB Multiverse page 1907
1 - Babidi cant sense power levels
2 - Royal Vegeta is half-baked ssj3 and nowhere as strong as Gohan
3 - Babidi is from timeline without Cell - he encountered much weaker Z fighters
4 - Uub is still a mere human. Mary Sue Magic Human with Vast Potential. But still human.
CaptainKashup was saying:
I feel like there's a reason why Uub pushed him instead of punching.
My guess is that he wants to show he has the power to go above the power of a SSJ3, even for one single attack, to show to his master that he's worthy of being the next protector of Earth.
But he doesn't want to kill his master by breaking his neck with an overpowered punch, so he "only" pushed him.
My guess is that he wants to show he has the power to go above the power of a SSJ3, even for one single attack, to show to his master that he's worthy of being the next protector of Earth.
But he doesn't want to kill his master by breaking his neck with an overpowered punch, so he "only" pushed him.
Goku never thought of himself as the Protector of Earth. Its more Vegetto or Gohan profile.
VegitoU18 was saying:
Kerosinelamp was saying: VegitoU18 thì tại sao Gohan không bao giờ sử dụng kaioken, nếu tiềm năng cơ bản được giải phóng đầy đủ vẫn có thể bị giảm bởi nó? Kaioken х20 Mystic Gohan - bb Vegetto.
In the cell saga, Piccolo would have been the strongest if he had Kaioken, and as you can see, he's not.
In the cell saga, Piccolo would have been the strongest if he had Kaioken, and as you can see, he's not.
Eхactly - Piccolo was a little stronger than androids 17-18- Kaioken х10 would be enough to completely rip super perfect cell.
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VegitoU18 then why Gohan never use kaioken, if fully released base potential still can be amped by it? Kaioken х20 Mystic Gohan - bb Vegetto.
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DB Multiverse page 1901
Prof.Ripper PhD was saying:
How does Uub cut his hair? Any guesses? Plain scissors? Razor? With a sharp, little R O C K?
Its not a haircut, its the same form of Male pattern baldness as Vegeta((((
400 is their base level
So kami can be up to 600