What older brother???

slushie was saying: AETHERAEON was saying: Monster was saying: How did Mondo Cool, a YouTuber, have early access to this page?


Because he knows the creators. He covers all type of fan manga, including the one I write haha Mondo is a cool dude, had him on our podcast not too long ago.
Would you have me on your podcast to discuss the Legacy of dryce and Mutant future (A tmnt fancomic)

It's not a no, but we are a Dragon Ball Podcast, so I would have to run it by my co-host and our producers. I'll let you know.

Monster was saying: How did Mondo Cool, a YouTuber, have early access to this page?


Because he knows the creators. He covers all type of fan manga, including the one I write haha Mondo is a cool dude, had him on our podcast not too long ago.

I wonder if vegeta learned other techniques?

He learned the shunkaidou. so did he learn the multi form while we're at it? Piccolo learned it in the anime, as did krillin. if vegeta learned a technique from casual observation over like 30 years, I guess he could learn whatever else the plot calls for.

"hey triclops! get over here and show that technique of yours off screen! ok, thanks."

I guess he learned self destruct from choutzu, which we saw him use on buu.

plot twist. that was explosion, not self destruct which has a higher base power.

all kidding aside, I wouldn't mind vegeta using other stolen techniques or even new techniques, not yet seen, from yardrat. Maybe he went there off screen in u18. he did say "expect some surprises from me" now he ruined the surprise

:P

If this doesn't do the job then Uub is done for.

It's worth noting that Uub is now running on a Kaioken x 20, since I'm pretty sure King Kai said that's the highest Kaioken anyone can do. According to Salagir in pages 82 and 1091, Super Saiyan is a 50x multiplier, Super Saiyan 2 is a 10x multiplier, and Super Saiyan 3 is another 10x multiplier. That totals out to a 5000x multiplier. They appear to fight evenly.

That means Uub's base power is 250x Goku's base power. That's fuckin bananas. They should wish him into a Saiyan.

"YOU! Black hole! you're new.... what is YOUR power level?!"

So this confirms that she didn't willingly volunteer for Babidi, as if anyone with a brain hadn't already figured that out. Of course she didn't. The only two that did was Vegeta during the Buu Saga and Cell in DBM. Nobody else that was controlled did and a lot of people thought too deeply about the topic, especially since we are talking about Dragon Ball, I don't think morality in the Dragon Ball world is nearly as complex as it is in life.

Is it just me or is Bra's muscles getting more defined every page? (Not that I mind it but she looks jacked for a girl). U18 Vegeta seems to have no opinion on this whatsoever on this, which is surprising. I guess U18 Vegeta isn't interested in throwing his two cents in even though Gast and Gotenks had no qualms in doing so.

But wait, Bra knows how to control SSJ2? How did she manage that? That makes me sad, I wanted Gast to win in his fight against Bra so we could have Gast vs XXI but Bra is going to bamboozle that unless Gast has more powerful magic up his sleeve. Is it also fair to say she broke out on her own when U16/18 Gohan, Dai Kaio and U18 Bra tried persuading U16 Bra to break free?

So Bra is mentally that weak and pathetic, huh. Figures. And she’s given a pass for it regardless of all the brutal mayhem she caused?!(She was Majinized but still well aware of what she was doing.) Yay! Let’s cheer for Bra!!! HIP-HIP HOORAY!!!!! PRAISE BRA, THE INFALLIBLE CREATOR’S PET!!!!!! WOOOO!!!!!

Excuse me, I need to drink something to wash down all this intense sardonic sarcasm. Bleh.

And Happy New Year.

So Bra is getting no blame this? Seriously?!

Why am I surprised?....... Sigh

slushie was saying: pofehof was saying: frostyross was saying: vageta and goku arent good fathers

Wow, people are still believing this dumb meme? In reality, Goku is a great father (for example, he didn't shit on Gohan for fucking up with Cell, and he was pissed when Raditz took Gohan), and same with Vegeta.
Actually Vegeta is a great dad
Vegeta up until super is a horrible father and is actually physically abusive. Geez are people that desperate to erase this mans sins.

Lace was saying: Vegeta Resisted but did NOT break Babidi's control. i don't see how vegito could ever call that shit 'easy', i'm sure vegeta would beg to differ. he Resisted until Babidi realized how much power he was unknowingly giving to majin buu, and no longer cared. I'm NOT AT ALL saying that Bra should or shouldn't be killed or forgiven, all i'm saying is that Vegeta's a freak of nature who only resisted LONG ENOUGH til babidi got killed off, he didn't break free, the mark was still on his head, he just lasted long enough til babidi was no longer alive to manipulate him. and that mark was off of him AFTER BEING DEAD. Vegito has no right to say that was easy.

He didn't break it because it increased his power which he needed to beat Goku and to have a better chance at beating Buu. If he can resist it, he can certainly break it. I'd assume it's the same with Cell in DBM.

frostyross was saying: vageta and goku arent good fathers

Wow, people are still believing this dumb meme? In reality, Goku is a great father (for example, he didn't shit on Gohan for fucking up with Cell, and he was pissed when Raditz took Gohan), and same with Vegeta.

Meman27 was saying: Nice page, gives Vegito some reason that seemed impossible and gave bra a bit of sympathy
Vegito is giving some very solid reason, also empathy not sympathy. If you actually feel sympathy for Bra you need to go to a doctor.

Bruh .... KILL.HER!!!! FUCKING GAST SMH . Pan better go ssj2 and kill Bra the same way she killed Gohan

I don't want Bra dead, I just want her character to have a proper arc. Have Pan devastated, have u16 Gohan brought back but severely disappointed. And while Vegetto having a god-complex is good for his character, it really should be shelved for a bit so the focus isn't on him. Everytime Bra cries, it just ticks me off because it feels manipulative.

Nice to finally see U16 Pan's reaction at least.

Gast is wanked to high hell. A couple of Saiyan Saga Vegeta Warrior Class fighters, some fodder ass villager Namekians, a Guru and a Nail should not be on the same tier as Vegito. Obviously I'm the only sane person on this site that thinks this is bullshit cause I never hear anyone complain about it. Last I checked Piccolo or Kami wasn't a part of this fusion which makes it even more of a head scratcher since no one on Namek besides Nail was on Piccolo's level.

The pregnant woman...
That shadow is Jiren,
Jiren is born

Vegetto: "Seriously, what the hell is a Carcolh?!"
Gast: "It means God of the Nameks. Now bow."

Seems like the namekian is about to teach the saiyan a bit of humility...

Gourcuff87 was saying: Remember that Gohan is also his son.

Vegetto is a father who has just seen his son cut in half.

People seems to forgot that and straightly says Vegetto is OOC...

Dude was saying: Bra is still a kid. Vegito giving her a death threat instead of helping her control her power is why Bra is so messed up.
Obviously he tried to help her control her power. I mean you can clearly see him training her. The death threat is in case the training doesn’t work.

Oh boy
GORKOR THE GREAT? nay... GORKOR THE GUT-WRENCHER!!
Chewys is gonna have a field trip with this one

NO WAY! Mecha-Gorkor? Okay, I definitely did not see that coming. I knew Gorkor The Great would appear in another special, but not here!

I can expect Chewys to implement Mecha-Gorkor in the near future with his own story now!

slushie was saying: Superman is perhaps the most fragile hero of them all.

Most fragile; lmbo roflol; he has LITERALLY two things that hurt him, magic and kryptonite. Superman is so unfragile kryptonite became synonymous with any one thing that can fell an otherwise unbeatable opponent, especially if that is the only thing.

Don't get me wrong, Superman's completely unbalanced, and belongs where he is, a protector and not a warrior.

This guy is a trace offender but not as bad as Absalon that looked so stupid...
So even though he teleported to the water and it just apeared ?

This has to be the same race as the water fighter from the otherworld tournament or a complete rip off of that idea and will give no mention to that character to pretend its there creation. I know it was a “filler” but it aired so it happend and goku could use kaioken in ssj just he was dead and like ssj3 it was probably a huge strain at the time because you saw got smacked down just afterwards by pikkon.

So vegito is gonna fight bra turned evil and this will make vegito fear that bra will really become evil like wtf is this clone wars...? Idk if this manga has had an original idea ever. Even the baby being born but isnt strong yet just reminds me of caterpie going into a cocoon for a thousand years but wait thats too long match ova.

One vegeto was a figpin photoshopped to the pic and the next was a freehand because he looks wrong then i guess flat black backrounds are the easiest to do so lets get more of that and add some text for those that havent figured out hes in water and also have the bad guy already tell vegito he has mind powers and its going to be an illusionary battle against his biggest fear instead of having him figure it out himself!!!!!!!!???????!!?!?!!??

Wtf was that you just did ten pages of cut and pasted he man goten and he man trunks maybe drag out the enemies power reveal for another page unless vegito just explodes with ki and blows everything away... and how is a magic cube of water in space a secret base if you even just said it apeared?

Even mega man would have had to fight some hard hats before fighting bubble man in the boss room vegito teleported to a place that according to the first square didnt even exist until this page. Dont say it teleported when it tried to run away because thats not what it said and its still somehow a base in this star trek the next generation romulan mind control episode... your not really my daughter are you and the one you said is your mother chi chi she was just a hologram i fooled around with one day.

Ok time to smoke

Superman55aa was saying: On a serious note, Vegito has no weakness so it futile for "it"/the enemy.
of course a superman fan would say this

Vegito rampage suddenly looking pretty understandable and realistic.

slushie was saying: Vegetto as a abusive father confirmed.
Makes you wonder if Bra chose the Majin or she was forced to take it because she does feel her life is in danger.

A Majin powerup won't be enough for her to close the gap.

This is ridiculous and makes zero sense. It completely throws away any sense of logic. Vegito is a combination of Goku and Vegeta's best traits. His personality has no reason to be muderous to his children. Not Goku or Vegeta EVER showed traits like this.

What if Vegetto's reason for killing Bra was that he sensed dark and destructive tendencies in Bra, so he has to put her down before she becomes too powerful for him to contain, to keep the universe safe? Would you guys still call him an abusive father?

And what if Vegetto was saying this as a warning to Bra, to force her to behave well, like "You'd better control your destructive tendencies before the day you surpass me, otherwise I'll have to kill you"?

Vegetto is a fusion of:

1. A man who took a bullet to the chest to protect his son from raditz
2. Another man who suicide bombed himself to save his son from majin buu

There is absolutely ZERO reason for such a man to want to ever kill his child. Goku was proud to see Gohan surpass him against cell. Vegeta was proud of future trunks for surpassing super saiyan in the cell saga. These are both proud saiyan fathers who want their sons to be strong. There is no reason that their fusion would want his kids to be weak.

The only ways to make this work is to pull a DB minus and retcon the motives of these characters from the very beginning. Or they can say that in DBM the potara causes insanity in mortals because they don't have the stability to tolerate it. Otherwise this is shitty writing.

GODkuChad was saying: Why does everyone keep comparing this to lengthy parts in the Dragon Ball manga?
None of the arcs went on for 3 years.


To put it into perspective the current dragonball super manga ARC has been running since October .. MAYBE September.. It is realeased on the 22nd of every month.

If it were 3 pages a week it would be approximately 784 days to reach where it is .. Right on track to be a 3 year arc.

Highly recomend it to anyone who didn't know its free on Viz!

Qayin was saying: Cell wasn't killed. The nucleus that was saught out was Cell Jr's. Cell obtained the Senzu bean, his power-level is hidden in his Nucleus form, and he's going to be stronger than ever.



Nope, I don't think that the Cell Juniors have a core, and even if they had one it would be at around 1mm, and in that page the core looks waaay bigger than 1mm.

Matrixkid was saying: Well, I didn't believe he was immortal before last week. Then in the last few days I went "Would it really make sense given Kakarot's personality? But it would make an interesting story beat." and now, acceptance. I suppose just because he's immortal doesn't mean he's invincible. Gohan disintegrating his body with punches, and likely Bra's explosion put him completely out of commision, so while he may see him alive at some point, he probs can't do anything.

@King 4

Although it's possible for Kakarot to lose his immortality, it most likely won't happen. Also... Is it really right for you to say DBM institutes bad writing? Even if it was true, it's bad sportsmanship to laugh your head off and say "I'm right I'm right!"

Regardless, I read that part where Kakarot was terrified for his life when Vege beat up his ghost, and honestly, that doesn't prove/disprove anything. It doesn't matter if you're immortal or not, if you get hit in the face or a broken bone, then you'll feel that pain, immensely at that. Just because you can't die, doesn't mean you can't be afraid of pain. It's a natural, biological, reaction, and that's that.
Besides, Vegeta could use Kakarot's immortality as an opportunity to torture him, repeatedly blasting/hitting him until he's unconscious, waiting until he wakes up, and repeating the process. That's likely what Kakarot's afraid of.

DBM's immortality doesn't allow the user to regenerate, or if they do, then over a very, very long time. So if Kakarot's arms got vaporised by... Anyone, then he won't have arms for the rest of his life, and he'll live a sad existance.
Yeah they probably have access to technology that could regrow Kakarot's arms, but all Vegeta has to do is prevent him from using said technology.

You really just need to accept that Kakarot's immortal and move on. The fact that he is isn't going to harm you in any shape or form. Also, you should change your personality to Prince Vegeta, it'd fit ya better
You are clearly not reading that page well. It’s explicitly implies kakarot and his brother fearing death. Same thing when kakarot was looking at vegeta beat universe 3 kakarot to a pulp. Also the same thing in the novel before vegeta fights kakarot. In U13, kakarot starts bragging since he’s the only one in the tournament after vegeta has been resurrected. Goes as far to refer himself as empeor to where vegeta pins his throat to the ground and powers up! Kakarot only gets spared because vegeta believes that his counterpart will humiliate and end his life, and so vegeta wants front row seats. Another example of kakarot morality. The author himself danced around my concern by just throwing the novel under the bus, and convicently giving a vague indirect response to what I’m saying. If kakarot was immortal, he would have continuously challenged vegeta until he grew stronger then him. As a matter of fact, there’d be no point in kakarot having any fielty since he’s immortal and the rest aren’t. And the example “clues” these dbm readers keep citing too is kakarot when he had a majin boost. Majin boost, especially with the liberties dbm gives, gives you a lot of boost in endurance and stamina you wouldn’t have had previously. Like spopovich getting his head snapped but survives it and puts it back in place. Add that type of boost in endurance to that of a sayain, especially one as sadistic as kakarot? Oh yeah. He’s going to pull off a lot of stuff unbelievable to the average human. Honestly...
The only hope you guys have at this point is because I have spoiled what would have been the exciting twist and now have seemily Ticked off swaths of readers who are now hoping I’m wrong; salagir might just scrap the twist and proceed to either retcon his novel or leave the plot hole. That wouldn’t surprise me.
That is the only hope you guys have^
And I’m not like emperor vegeta. I don’t have disdain for those, only because they are weak.



james was saying: King 4 was saying: I see salagir takes me as gullible naive child. You’re not going to trick me. I know the game you’re playing. Not going to work on me. KAKAROT IS GOING TO LOSE IMMORTALITY
BOOK IT!
Dude they have kakarot immortal nothing you say or do is going to change that get over it you will be doing yourself a favor by just dropping the I'm in denial schtick and moving on
Im not indenial of jack squat. I was wrong believing kakarot never had immortality, but now I say he’ll lose it. The only way I’m wrong is probably if the author retcon his own work or just leaves the plot hole... and I’d wager he probably did it because I spoiled what would have been the surprising twist.

King 4 was saying: Kakarot isn't immortal by then. DBM is playing a slick game. They are going to play to both sides of the controversy. Quite clever really, but it's obvious now. They can't get passed what they have written in the novel.

#LetItGo

Dr Raichi was saying: I ship it, I ship it, I ship it.
Damn it Salagir, I take it back, the heliots are awesome.
Gross, the man has a wife.

@FTL debate

For what it's worth- i always assumed they were slower then the Speed of light until the end of the Namek saga. I.e when Freiza went 100% of his power and Goku went Super Saiyan. King-Kai mentions that he can no longer sense their individual moves, so i took that as a statement that their power (and therefore their speed) had increased so much that FTL was now possible

"She is aiming to kill"
I believe it when I see it. A broken spine means you are crippled, not dead.
I'm pretty sure she just wants to have fun. She won't kill anyone.
Not anyone she cares about anyway.. Cell and the Ultras should watch out.

Beat-kun was saying: @kor
That was the funimation dub that said it was faster than light. In the manga, they never said they were faster than light. The only sign of faster than light speed was goku pushing cooler into the sun in 30 seconds, and this was after the frieza saga.
Faster than the speed of light in the manga:

Kid goku Dodges lazers while fighting colonel black. KIDS GOKU.