pip25 was saying: Agreed with iron leaf. Pan remote controlling #28 is great, and I also like Thorn as a character, but him out-tech-geniusing Bulma is not what I'd call a good plot idea. Surely both characters can have their own niche without overshadowing one another.
It's even worse, Thorn is likely better than Gero at this point if hacking his systems is easier than trivial school exams. This is some advanced Gary Stu level, this guy might just be worse than Bra and Buu put together.
Fatman was saying: It makes plenty of sense for Thorn to be this good. I mean like a thorn in the side, a constant pain for everyone. He comes from a civilization that gathers knowledge from nearly everyone. He's more capable in known theories and tech than in innovation and creation which are Bulma's domain. He also wasn't on Earth long enough to properly learn their languages and styles, so he would have to have been able to find familiarity in what's there and take advantage of known vulnerabilities and weaknesses of the system types. It makes sense.
Imagine being well versed in cybersecurity today, but going back in time 30 years. You'll know a lot of advanced concepts and things that can help beat folk in the past, but you're not necessarily capable of truly innovating during their time beyond what you already learned.
The fact that it doesn't outright and obviously create plotholes (or does it?) doesn't make it a good choice. The writers didn't HAVE to make him demonstrate his 99 INT 99 WIS stats by schooling Bulma and Gero like 4 times. This is a deliberate choice, and it makes him a Gary Stu. Or, if you don't like these kinds of buzzwords, it makes him incredibly annoying.
Also, your cybersecurity analogy doesn't work that well. You might be able to teach people some advanced cybersecurity concepts if you went back 30 years ago... How about if you went back 30 years ago but in an alien world with completely different tech?
Man, I'm glad Thorn can do politics, tech, everything (except not sound like an asshole). We almost got a potential Bulma moment by showing her efforts finally pay off as she hacks the enemy androids, facing off against Gero, not as advanced but incredibly driven and motivated for her friends! That sounds scary, I'm glad she got put in her place again instead.
I've come to the conclusion this comic hates Bulma. She exists either to be eye candy, or useless.
We've never seen her exchange a single word with her own daughter.
This Thorn loser is just an annoying sue too.
This Videl stuff is nonsense, her reaction time would mean the android meatsock she's piloting should not even exist in the same realm of speed as one of these clowndroids. By the time she'd even THINK about throwing that uppercut, that android could've circumnavigated the globe 6 hundred times.
Not to mention how fucked it is for the heroes to take such an evil approach when Gast could wipe everyone out by blinking.
The fully mechanical androids are themselves fully sapient thinking beings.
Puppeting one of them like this is a tremendously vile act.
Thorn is a vile parasite for suggesting such a course when it is COMPLETELY unnecessary. Only morally above thee when he feels like judging people, eh? Typical Sue.
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It's even worse, Thorn is likely better than Gero at this point if hacking his systems is easier than trivial school exams. This is some advanced Gary Stu level, this guy might just be worse than Bra and Buu put together.
Fatman was saying: It makes plenty of sense for Thorn to be this good. I mean like a thorn in the side, a constant pain for everyone. He comes from a civilization that gathers knowledge from nearly everyone. He's more capable in known theories and tech than in innovation and creation which are Bulma's domain. He also wasn't on Earth long enough to properly learn their languages and styles, so he would have to have been able to find familiarity in what's there and take advantage of known vulnerabilities and weaknesses of the system types. It makes sense.
Imagine being well versed in cybersecurity today, but going back in time 30 years. You'll know a lot of advanced concepts and things that can help beat folk in the past, but you're not necessarily capable of truly innovating during their time beyond what you already learned.
The fact that it doesn't outright and obviously create plotholes (or does it?) doesn't make it a good choice. The writers didn't HAVE to make him demonstrate his 99 INT 99 WIS stats by schooling Bulma and Gero like 4 times. This is a deliberate choice, and it makes him a Gary Stu. Or, if you don't like these kinds of buzzwords, it makes him incredibly annoying.
Also, your cybersecurity analogy doesn't work that well. You might be able to teach people some advanced cybersecurity concepts if you went back 30 years ago... How about if you went back 30 years ago but in an alien world with completely different tech?
Man, I'm glad Thorn can do politics, tech, everything (except not sound like an asshole). We almost got a potential Bulma moment by showing her efforts finally pay off as she hacks the enemy androids, facing off against Gero, not as advanced but incredibly driven and motivated for her friends! That sounds scary, I'm glad she got put in her place again instead.
I've come to the conclusion this comic hates Bulma. She exists either to be eye candy, or useless.
We've never seen her exchange a single word with her own daughter.
This Thorn loser is just an annoying sue too.
This Videl stuff is nonsense, her reaction time would mean the android meatsock she's piloting should not even exist in the same realm of speed as one of these clowndroids. By the time she'd even THINK about throwing that uppercut, that android could've circumnavigated the globe 6 hundred times.
Not to mention how fucked it is for the heroes to take such an evil approach when Gast could wipe everyone out by blinking.
The fully mechanical androids are themselves fully sapient thinking beings.
Puppeting one of them like this is a tremendously vile act.
Thorn is a vile parasite for suggesting such a course when it is COMPLETELY unnecessary. Only morally above thee when he feels like judging people, eh? Typical Sue.