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My childhood would have been emptier and more boring if it wasn't for Dragon ball, and i was lucky that it was shown in the right order in my country, so i grew up with Goku.
So thank you to the man who created him, rest in peace Akira Toriyama
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So thank you to the man who created him, rest in peace Akira Toriyama
Ammar was saying:
...I just realized there's an error in the text/plothole. Nail mentioned the "smallest of the Gods" which I believe he meant Shin, but as chapter 25 shows, the one who killed Freeza and his family is the North Kaioshin. Of course, the white & black version of this page came before chapter 25 (and Salagir might forgot about this line when he wrote the script for chapter 25) which means the error was actually in chapter 25, but it should have been edited in our version. Oh well...
J.I.L was saying: why does piccolo not know who kaioshin is?
Beats me, as I remember correctly, he recognized that Shin was a God. Why wouldn't he know a "Kaioshin" is.
Petar Son was saying: This is a very big advantage that the color manga has, like here the Namekians can be shown with different patterns of green because their designs are too similar, so much so that they would have to carry name cards for us to tell them all apart, or some to wear special clothes so we can identify them or to recognize more important characters.
That's one advantage we have in the colored version, you can recognize/tell the differences between characters with the color of their skin and what they wear. :)
J.I.L was saying: why does piccolo not know who kaioshin is?
Beats me, as I remember correctly, he recognized that Shin was a God. Why wouldn't he know a "Kaioshin" is.
Petar Son was saying: This is a very big advantage that the color manga has, like here the Namekians can be shown with different patterns of green because their designs are too similar, so much so that they would have to carry name cards for us to tell them all apart, or some to wear special clothes so we can identify them or to recognize more important characters.
That's one advantage we have in the colored version, you can recognize/tell the differences between characters with the color of their skin and what they wear. :)
I would say that this page should be fixed, I'm talking about the texts
Second, I didn't mean to sound critical in my color comment, I was praising the merits of the manga in color as opposed to black and white, although I realize I should have emphasized my praise a bit more to be more direct, since I mentioned the designs of the Namekians and how they were saved with colors, because most of them are almost identical.
J.I.L was saying:
why does piccolo not know who kaioshin is?
That is strange, but i think it's possible that Piccolo got confused thinking that someone's name is Kaioshin, because he knows that to be a title, but you're right Piccolo shouldn't be confused with this.
This is a very big advantage that the color manga has, like here the Namekians can be shown with different patterns of green because their designs are too similar, so much so that they would have to carry name cards for us to tell them all apart, or some to wear special clothes so we can identify them or to recognize more important characters.
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عمار was saying:
Petar Son was saying: You literally mentioned that we underestimated Videl and that she is probably close to Yamcha strength wise, and that he would beat her just because of skill, you definitely don't know these characters or you love Videl too much, because you are putting her too high, and dare to think that Videl can be on the level of Z fighters in only a year if she trains with Gohan, right there you just said unprecedented stupidity and disrespected all the masters who already exist in the story, and you ignore that she is human and can't get stronger in power like saiyans can, no matter how much Gohan suits her better as a teacher. Mr. Satan is strong as a human but incredibly weak unlike our heroes even in the OG Dragon ball, and comparing him to Ox King is insulting.
"Being stronger than OX King and Hercule is not a big achievement"
Ox King had a power level similar to Master Roshi, even though he failed to learn KI control from Master Roshi, yet he was incredibly strong to the point that if Videl from the tournament that can fly, if she were to fight him she wouldn't even be able to scratch him, if you don't believe me then watch Dragon ball or read the manga. I gave a power level of 80 to Videl that she doesn't deserve, and i was literally highballing her with that power level, but I gave her that level of strength to be similar to the fighters in 21st Tenkaichi Budokai level of strength or at least to be similar to the level that Goku had in that tournament, although I don't think she can even beat Goku at the beginning of the story who knocked giants to the ground with a single punch, destroyed large rocks as a morning exercise, and thought the bullets were actually marbles thrown at him, it was that weak for him when Bulma shot him with a gun (Goku was off guard just to mention it). Really strong fighters have stopped coming to tournaments after Goku vs Piccolo fight otherwise Mr. Satan or Videl wouldn't even come close to winning any tournaments, and you underestimate Chi-Chi and her skill and strength, to get herself back into shape after so many years of not training in order to train her younger son, who is no joke.
Being stronger than OX King is not a big of achievement compare to the level of Yamcha, Krillin, and Tien at the 23rd tournament. Chichi couldn't track the fight between Tien and Goku and was surprised that Krillin and Yamcha could. The only insulting thing is comparing Videl to Yamcha or saying the fusion of these weaklings will be match Raditz.
"Being stronger than OX King and Hercule is not a big achievement"
Ox King had a power level similar to Master Roshi, even though he failed to learn KI control from Master Roshi, yet he was incredibly strong to the point that if Videl from the tournament that can fly, if she were to fight him she wouldn't even be able to scratch him, if you don't believe me then watch Dragon ball or read the manga. I gave a power level of 80 to Videl that she doesn't deserve, and i was literally highballing her with that power level, but I gave her that level of strength to be similar to the fighters in 21st Tenkaichi Budokai level of strength or at least to be similar to the level that Goku had in that tournament, although I don't think she can even beat Goku at the beginning of the story who knocked giants to the ground with a single punch, destroyed large rocks as a morning exercise, and thought the bullets were actually marbles thrown at him, it was that weak for him when Bulma shot him with a gun (Goku was off guard just to mention it). Really strong fighters have stopped coming to tournaments after Goku vs Piccolo fight otherwise Mr. Satan or Videl wouldn't even come close to winning any tournaments, and you underestimate Chi-Chi and her skill and strength, to get herself back into shape after so many years of not training in order to train her younger son, who is no joke.
Being stronger than OX King is not a big of achievement compare to the level of Yamcha, Krillin, and Tien at the 23rd tournament. Chichi couldn't track the fight between Tien and Goku and was surprised that Krillin and Yamcha could. The only insulting thing is comparing Videl to Yamcha or saying the fusion of these weaklings will be match Raditz.
I was giving an example of Ox King because Videl was not close even to his level of strength, and that there was a big difference in strength between him and Mr. Satan including Videl. As for Goku and Tien Shinhan fight, the fact that Yamcha and krillin could watch the fight and Chi-Chi couldn't is what I was aware of, and i'm also aware that Goku and Tien are much stronger and much faster than her, and that they wouldn't hold back just so everyone could follow the fight, and that it makes more sense that Yamcha and Krillin can follow that fight because they have gone through much higher levels of training than Chi-Chi went through in her life, she was definitely only trained by her father but she was still an impressive fighter for a human being back then, and later that she was training Goten. I used the fusion multiplier that I chose and put together after watching a lot of different examples on YouTube and with my own opinion, I would give certain power levels to these characters to show the possible results of this fusion.
Videl power level would realistically be 50 or lower though let's make it 50 here.
Chi-Chi would have a minimum power level of 100 due to her Goten training maybe more though, but i doubt it.
My fusion system would be to combine their powers and multiply them times 100 which would be 150 times 100 and we get 15000, and this would definitely be stronger than Raditz.
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You literally mentioned that we underestimated Videl and that she is probably close to Yamcha strength wise, and that he would beat her just because of skill, you definitely don't know these characters or you love Videl too much, because you are putting her too high, and dare to think that Videl can be on the level of Z fighters in only a year if she trains with Gohan, right there you just said unprecedented stupidity and disrespected all the masters who already exist in the story, and you ignore that she is human and can't get stronger in power like saiyans can, no matter how much Gohan suits her better as a teacher. Mr. Satan is strong as a human but incredibly weak unlike our heroes even in the OG Dragon ball, and comparing him to Ox King is insulting.
"Being stronger than OX King and Hercule is not a big achievement"
Ox King had a power level similar to Master Roshi, even though he failed to learn KI control from Master Roshi, yet he was incredibly strong to the point that if Videl from the tournament that can fly, if she were to fight him she wouldn't even be able to scratch him, if you don't believe me then watch Dragon ball or read the manga. I gave a power level of 80 to Videl that she doesn't deserve, and i was literally highballing her with that power level, but I gave her that level of strength to be similar to the fighters in 21st Tenkaichi Budokai level of strength or at least to be similar to the level that Goku had in that tournament, although I don't think she can even beat Goku at the beginning of the story who knocked giants to the ground with a single punch, destroyed large rocks as a morning exercise, and thought the bullets were actually marbles thrown at him, it was that weak for him when Bulma shot him with a gun (Goku was off guard just to mention it). Really strong fighters have stopped coming to tournaments after Goku vs Piccolo fight otherwise Mr. Satan or Videl wouldn't even come close to winning any tournaments, and you underestimate Chi-Chi and her skill and strength, to get herself back into shape after so many years of not training in order to train her younger son, who is no joke. 1 Replie(s)
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XarKhaan was saying:
Petar Son was saying: XarKhaan was saying: عمار was saying: DrewSaga was saying: But maybe I exaggerated a little bit to say such a fusion could match Raditz.
You're exaggerating, a lot. Both Videl and Chichi can't generate simple ki blast, let alone use an advance ki blast technique. Hell! Chichi can't even fly, so could their fusion fly? Being stronger than OX King and Hercule is not a big achievement, Nam could wipe the floor with these two. Their fusion might be stronger than Mercenary Tao, maybe.
Videl can fly. and really Chi Chi should have learned flying and basic kii blasts by default being married to Goku the fact she doesn't. Means she Willfully chose not to learn. also i think a lot of you guys are underestimating Videl alot strength wise shes probably close to Yamcha now Yamcha could likely still beat her in a 1 v1 just by experience an knowing kii techniques. but give Videl a Year of Gohan teaching her PROPERLY and shed be right in the Z-fighter Gang up there with Krillin and Tien
I think that you are exaggerating Videl’s potential, and Gohan as a super teacher. Chi-Chi is stronger and more skilled than Videl, and the only thing she knows that Chi-Chi doesn't is flying, Chi-Chi had a power level of 130 in the tournament against Goku, but over the years we can say that she has weakened, although she did train Goten, and taught him how to fight, so we can say that she has maintained some power, and we can put her at power level 100, while for Videl we don't know her power level but she is not higher than Chi-Chi, but we will give her power level between 50 and 80. Fusion and how much the powers increase is a big debate among the fans, but I'm going to use the multiplier that sounds the most reasonable to me, and that would be to combine their powers and multiply them 100 times which would give us at most 180, and we multiply that times 100 and get 18000, so we get the power level of Vegeta in the Saiyan saga which is very good. As much as you want to use Yamcha as a joke here you just can't, and to say that Videl has more potential than him is just stupid, and for no solid reason, and the only reason people are putting him so low is because he has given up training and is no longer the warrior he once was, which does not mean that he is weak now, but people like to think that he is, and because they made him an even bigger joke in DBS. Lastly if you think that Gohan can measure up to the masters that Yamcha had you must be kidding, because you are suggesting that Gohan is a better teacher than Master Roshi, mr. Popo and King Kai, but if you really mean that then you really weren't paying attention if you watched the story, just because Gohan is stronger than all those people doesn't make him a better teacher, it makes him just a strong teacher who has saiyan genetics on his side while Videl does not.
i never implied Gohan was a better teacher than anybody else but sense he had already started being her teacher why would he stop especially sense shed likely prefer him as her teacher for obvious reasons. now as to how strong Chi Chi and Videl are you really think shes that weak? yea she got wrecked by that Babdi magic-roided up goon Spopovich but shed own anybody else outside the Z fighters shes ridiculously strong for a Human she may not know much kii stuff but her basic strength is way up there as for Chi Chi we dont have a whole lot to gauge her strength weve barely seen her do any fighting sense Dragon Ball. maybe im overestimating Videl but i still think your Underestimating her. and i never said she was better than Yamcha did i not say hed beat her with experiance and better kii techniques?
You're exaggerating, a lot. Both Videl and Chichi can't generate simple ki blast, let alone use an advance ki blast technique. Hell! Chichi can't even fly, so could their fusion fly? Being stronger than OX King and Hercule is not a big achievement, Nam could wipe the floor with these two. Their fusion might be stronger than Mercenary Tao, maybe.
Videl can fly. and really Chi Chi should have learned flying and basic kii blasts by default being married to Goku the fact she doesn't. Means she Willfully chose not to learn. also i think a lot of you guys are underestimating Videl alot strength wise shes probably close to Yamcha now Yamcha could likely still beat her in a 1 v1 just by experience an knowing kii techniques. but give Videl a Year of Gohan teaching her PROPERLY and shed be right in the Z-fighter Gang up there with Krillin and Tien
I think that you are exaggerating Videl’s potential, and Gohan as a super teacher. Chi-Chi is stronger and more skilled than Videl, and the only thing she knows that Chi-Chi doesn't is flying, Chi-Chi had a power level of 130 in the tournament against Goku, but over the years we can say that she has weakened, although she did train Goten, and taught him how to fight, so we can say that she has maintained some power, and we can put her at power level 100, while for Videl we don't know her power level but she is not higher than Chi-Chi, but we will give her power level between 50 and 80. Fusion and how much the powers increase is a big debate among the fans, but I'm going to use the multiplier that sounds the most reasonable to me, and that would be to combine their powers and multiply them 100 times which would give us at most 180, and we multiply that times 100 and get 18000, so we get the power level of Vegeta in the Saiyan saga which is very good. As much as you want to use Yamcha as a joke here you just can't, and to say that Videl has more potential than him is just stupid, and for no solid reason, and the only reason people are putting him so low is because he has given up training and is no longer the warrior he once was, which does not mean that he is weak now, but people like to think that he is, and because they made him an even bigger joke in DBS. Lastly if you think that Gohan can measure up to the masters that Yamcha had you must be kidding, because you are suggesting that Gohan is a better teacher than Master Roshi, mr. Popo and King Kai, but if you really mean that then you really weren't paying attention if you watched the story, just because Gohan is stronger than all those people doesn't make him a better teacher, it makes him just a strong teacher who has saiyan genetics on his side while Videl does not.
i never implied Gohan was a better teacher than anybody else but sense he had already started being her teacher why would he stop especially sense shed likely prefer him as her teacher for obvious reasons. now as to how strong Chi Chi and Videl are you really think shes that weak? yea she got wrecked by that Babdi magic-roided up goon Spopovich but shed own anybody else outside the Z fighters shes ridiculously strong for a Human she may not know much kii stuff but her basic strength is way up there as for Chi Chi we dont have a whole lot to gauge her strength weve barely seen her do any fighting sense Dragon Ball. maybe im overestimating Videl but i still think your Underestimating her. and i never said she was better than Yamcha did i not say hed beat her with experiance and better kii techniques?
You literally mentioned that we underestimated Videl and that she is probably close to Yamcha strength wise, and that he would beat her just because of skill, you definitely don't know these characters or you love Videl too much, because you are putting her too high, and dare to think that Videl can be on the level of Z fighters in only a year if she trains with Gohan, right there you just said unprecedented stupidity and disrespected all the masters who already exist in the story, and you ignore that she is human and can't get stronger in power like saiyans can, no matter how much Gohan suits her better as a teacher. Mr. Satan is strong as a human but incredibly weak unlike our heroes even in the OG Dragon ball, and comparing him to Ox King is insulting.
"Being stronger than OX King and Hercule is not a big achievement"
Ox King had a power level similar to Master Roshi, even though he failed to learn KI control from Master Roshi, yet he was incredibly strong to the point that if Videl from the tournament that can fly, if she were to fight him she wouldn't even be able to scratch him, if you don't believe me then watch Dragon ball or read the manga. I gave a power level of 80 to Videl that she doesn't deserve, and i was literally highballing her with that power level, but I gave her that level of strength to be similar to the fighters in 21st Tenkaichi Budokai level of strength or at least to be similar to the level that Goku had in that tournament, although I don't think she can even beat Goku at the beginning of the story who knocked giants to the ground with a single punch, destroyed large rocks as a morning exercise, and thought the bullets were actually marbles thrown at him, it was that weak for him when Bulma shot him with a gun (Goku was off guard just to mention it). Really strong fighters have stopped coming to tournaments after Goku vs Piccolo fight otherwise Mr. Satan or Videl wouldn't even come close to winning any tournaments, and you underestimate Chi-Chi and her skill and strength, to get herself back into shape after so many years of not training in order to train her younger son, who is no joke. 1 Replie(s)
XarKhaan was saying:
عمار was saying: DrewSaga was saying: But maybe I exaggerated a little bit to say such a fusion could match Raditz.
You're exaggerating, a lot. Both Videl and Chichi can't generate simple ki blast, let alone use an advance ki blast technique. Hell! Chichi can't even fly, so could their fusion fly? Being stronger than OX King and Hercule is not a big achievement, Nam could wipe the floor with these two. Their fusion might be stronger than Mercenary Tao, maybe.
Videl can fly. and really Chi Chi should have learned flying and basic kii blasts by default being married to Goku the fact she doesn't. Means she Willfully chose not to learn. also i think a lot of you guys are underestimating Videl alot strength wise shes probably close to Yamcha now Yamcha could likely still beat her in a 1 v1 just by experience an knowing kii techniques. but give Videl a Year of Gohan teaching her PROPERLY and shed be right in the Z-fighter Gang up there with Krillin and Tien
You're exaggerating, a lot. Both Videl and Chichi can't generate simple ki blast, let alone use an advance ki blast technique. Hell! Chichi can't even fly, so could their fusion fly? Being stronger than OX King and Hercule is not a big achievement, Nam could wipe the floor with these two. Their fusion might be stronger than Mercenary Tao, maybe.
Videl can fly. and really Chi Chi should have learned flying and basic kii blasts by default being married to Goku the fact she doesn't. Means she Willfully chose not to learn. also i think a lot of you guys are underestimating Videl alot strength wise shes probably close to Yamcha now Yamcha could likely still beat her in a 1 v1 just by experience an knowing kii techniques. but give Videl a Year of Gohan teaching her PROPERLY and shed be right in the Z-fighter Gang up there with Krillin and Tien
I think that you are exaggerating Videl’s potential, and Gohan as a super teacher. Chi-Chi is stronger and more skilled than Videl, and the only thing she knows that Chi-Chi doesn't is flying, Chi-Chi had a power level of 130 in the tournament against Goku, but over the years we can say that she has weakened, although she did train Goten, and taught him how to fight, so we can say that she has maintained some power, and we can put her at power level 100, while for Videl we don't know her power level but she is not higher than Chi-Chi, but we will give her power level between 50 and 80. Fusion and how much the powers increase is a big debate among the fans, but I'm going to use the multiplier that sounds the most reasonable to me, and that would be to combine their powers and multiply them 100 times which would give us at most 180, and we multiply that times 100 and get 18000, so we get the power level of Vegeta in the Saiyan saga which is very good. As much as you want to use Yamcha as a joke here you just can't, and to say that Videl has more potential than him is just stupid, and for no solid reason, and the only reason people are putting him so low is because he has given up training and is no longer the warrior he once was, which does not mean that he is weak now, but people like to think that he is, and because they made him an even bigger joke in DBS. Lastly if you think that Gohan can measure up to the masters that Yamcha had you must be kidding, because you are suggesting that Gohan is a better teacher than Master Roshi, mr. Popo and King Kai, but if you really mean that then you really weren't paying attention if you watched the story, just because Gohan is stronger than all those people doesn't make him a better teacher, it makes him just a strong teacher who has saiyan genetics on his side while Videl does not. 1 Replie(s)
Igyzone was saying:
Always wondered how does one "watch" from up there.
I just think that when you become a new god on the planet you get some god abilities. Like Supreme Kai can look at anything in the universe with his eyes, and Kami can only see things on earth.
Raditz: Oh shit!
Narrator: This is the moment where he knew. He fucked up.
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Narrator: This is the moment where he knew. He fucked up.
ptWolv022 was saying:
I actually rather like this, despite everyone hating it.
1) Vegetto needs to be told that he's not God. He is the most powerful being in his universe, an unstoppable force that has no such immovable object to rival him. Armies surrender at the mere sight of him because no one can hope to defeat him. There is no one to stop him. What he says goes, and... that's it.
2) He has done a terrible job trying to teach Bra self-control. Look back at the chapters showing her learning self-control. Vegetto: stood on the sidelines, let Gohan knock her out, took her into the RoSaT right after she's healed to train her, and then, after an angry 2 and a half days stormed out, declaring her a lost cause. Then Gohan came in and taught her self control in like a day. Vegetto says she's combative, and she is. But she also can be reasoned with. Vegetto just never, ever knew how to do it, presumably because of his aforementioned "I am the law of the universe" approach.
3) A culmination of the previous two points, Vegetto has no idea how to not brute force stuff. When his daughter went berserk, his idea was to threaten her life despite the fact that this presumably took place after Gohan succeeded in teaching her restraint for the time being. When fighting the illusion of Bra, he didn't use any sort of clever tricks, he just powered up, and then when it tried to kill him other ways, he just powered up more. More power. More, and more power. Demoralize the enemy with all your power. Obliterate the threat because that works. For everything. And everyone.
4) Can we all take a moment to consider that Bra was mind controlled throughout all of this? So far, our we've seen Vegeta and Cell resist the mind control entirely. That's two out of how many people? Every other saiyan and Frost Demon did not successfully resist control. Bra, however, was controlled. Controlled by her desire to by powerful like her father. Her father, who was born of two people who strived without end to be the strongest in the world. Her father, whom the universe bends the knee to. Her father, the fighter who, after failing to teach Bra self-control, stormed off ranting, and teleported away. Her father, who when cheated out a match that is entirely just a fun show, went off and screamed about wanting to break his son's skull and noted that he acts like Bra when he's mad.
To sum up what I'm trying to get across: Bra has always looked up to Vegetto. He's her father, so it's natural. He's also feared and respected by the universe, something many people would admire. But Vegetto isn't a stoic model of self-control himself. Gohan is. But Vegetto tries to brute force everything and vwooops off to have a temper tantrum when he can't simply brute force a problem. He doesn't realize that although he keeps the peace in the universe, he is still fallible. He threatened to kill his daughter and then was about to follow through on it, asserting "I beat Babidi's brainwashing, so she must be a lost cause because she didn't" even though she eventually did. Because someone pointed she was going about everything all wrong: they pointed out that her inability to control herself was a problem, and they did it by lecturing her, not threatening her life.
Bra wasn't a lost cause. Vegetto just couldn't figure out how to approach teaching Bra from a different angle, so he hoped fear would keep her in line. That is why Vegetto is getting talked down to. Because he can't understand that his awesome and terrifying power isn't the answer to everything. Everyone else recognizes their tempers can flares and they can make mistakes. Vegetto either doesn't think he can be mistaken, or doesn't care that he can make mistakes.
1) Vegetto needs to be told that he's not God. He is the most powerful being in his universe, an unstoppable force that has no such immovable object to rival him. Armies surrender at the mere sight of him because no one can hope to defeat him. There is no one to stop him. What he says goes, and... that's it.
2) He has done a terrible job trying to teach Bra self-control. Look back at the chapters showing her learning self-control. Vegetto: stood on the sidelines, let Gohan knock her out, took her into the RoSaT right after she's healed to train her, and then, after an angry 2 and a half days stormed out, declaring her a lost cause. Then Gohan came in and taught her self control in like a day. Vegetto says she's combative, and she is. But she also can be reasoned with. Vegetto just never, ever knew how to do it, presumably because of his aforementioned "I am the law of the universe" approach.
3) A culmination of the previous two points, Vegetto has no idea how to not brute force stuff. When his daughter went berserk, his idea was to threaten her life despite the fact that this presumably took place after Gohan succeeded in teaching her restraint for the time being. When fighting the illusion of Bra, he didn't use any sort of clever tricks, he just powered up, and then when it tried to kill him other ways, he just powered up more. More power. More, and more power. Demoralize the enemy with all your power. Obliterate the threat because that works. For everything. And everyone.
4) Can we all take a moment to consider that Bra was mind controlled throughout all of this? So far, our we've seen Vegeta and Cell resist the mind control entirely. That's two out of how many people? Every other saiyan and Frost Demon did not successfully resist control. Bra, however, was controlled. Controlled by her desire to by powerful like her father. Her father, who was born of two people who strived without end to be the strongest in the world. Her father, whom the universe bends the knee to. Her father, the fighter who, after failing to teach Bra self-control, stormed off ranting, and teleported away. Her father, who when cheated out a match that is entirely just a fun show, went off and screamed about wanting to break his son's skull and noted that he acts like Bra when he's mad.
To sum up what I'm trying to get across: Bra has always looked up to Vegetto. He's her father, so it's natural. He's also feared and respected by the universe, something many people would admire. But Vegetto isn't a stoic model of self-control himself. Gohan is. But Vegetto tries to brute force everything and vwooops off to have a temper tantrum when he can't simply brute force a problem. He doesn't realize that although he keeps the peace in the universe, he is still fallible. He threatened to kill his daughter and then was about to follow through on it, asserting "I beat Babidi's brainwashing, so she must be a lost cause because she didn't" even though she eventually did. Because someone pointed she was going about everything all wrong: they pointed out that her inability to control herself was a problem, and they did it by lecturing her, not threatening her life.
Bra wasn't a lost cause. Vegetto just couldn't figure out how to approach teaching Bra from a different angle, so he hoped fear would keep her in line. That is why Vegetto is getting talked down to. Because he can't understand that his awesome and terrifying power isn't the answer to everything. Everyone else recognizes their tempers can flares and they can make mistakes. Vegetto either doesn't think he can be mistaken, or doesn't care that he can make mistakes.
I think these are very valid points
Gotenks is right because when we saw before the whole fiasco with Babidi Bra rested in her room after fighting the Ginyu in King Cold body and after Vegito saved Bra from the Ginyu and put her back in her body and she went to sleep in her room and was surely caught off guard
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Yes it is definitely magic because we know that the namekians are good with magic and that the magic of super buu worked on Vegito while Vegito was more powerful in that fight
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I think only Gast can hold Vegito long enough while others try to calm the Vegito down
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Such legends are remembered forever.