Well, she's blasted her leg before the Carbonite can spread. Though I get the feeling she's still going to have two feet. Would be nice to see her lose a foot and show WHY IT WAS A SMART IDEA TO SAVE SENZU BEANS WHEN YOU NEED THEM!


Those thing spread fast. If she tries to take off her boot, it may touch her Non-Clothed Covered hands. And those things don't look easy to slip off using her other foot, which in turn would also be affected by the carbonite if it touches it. This was the fastest and safest way to remove it. The question is was her beam strong enough to remove the carbonite without removing her leg. I hope not and the leg goes. 1 Replie(s)

Phipsil is showing how a good tactician is supposed to be like. Lure the opponent into a trap to ensure victory overall. As others have pointed out the carbonite being in play would likely end this unless Bra stops it. The only two ways is either take off the boot, or the leg if it goes too far.

But if it ends with Bra just overpowering it after how built up it was, I think I'll be quitting this series.

Unless Buu decides to attack Bra in the next page, I predict she's gonna be dead.


I don't know about others but its because I still like the concept of this series and hoping it moves on to the next part of the story. I like to believe that's what most people are thinking.


That actually would turn away readers more than the Bra hate. If you mean the Micro Comic #93, I don't see it as mocking the critics but making fun of the idea of just cutting to Vegito coming in. Because honestly, the tension isn't being built up. Vegito is out there and as soon as he comes in the fight is likely going to be over.

Read the comments. Nobody is going "will Phipsil die?", they're going "welp, she's dead" or "Fat Buuhan will show up" or saying how great of a character Phipsil is. That's not building up tension. 1 Replie(s)

While I have seen people make suggestions about how the story could have been more pleasing to a general audience, the most I've seen is them saying they want this storyline to end and move on.


That's great for when others read the arc all at once, but as much as this tries to be a manga it is always going to be a webcomic. So those who are following it from beginning to end are going to struggle if they don't like how a current story is going. And that's not the Artist's fault, that's on the writing.


So here is a thought experiment: what if Salagir made Dragon Ball Multiverse with a Webcomic mentality? It'll still be released three times a week. It will still have special chapters to give Ashura time. But instead of trying to make the comic fit in a Manga format they keep in mind this is a webcomic where people follow pages at a time. Do you think that would make you as invested if not more?

Its not really changing the story, just trimming down the fat. Like you could trim Bra Vs Everyone down to three chapters. Heck the Mini-Comic showed how you could speed up the fight in one chapter.

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Well she probably did study old villains. Either that or she overheard Cell mention protecting his Nucleus from a big blast.

NOW she decides to destroy the Senzu beans. Shame because the heavy hitters have got to be coming here any minute now.

It's the rap metal, isn't it?


So far every chance she gotten to grow failed. Don't get mad at Zangya or get kicked out of the tournament? She got mad, overdid it and was given a pass because "she tried". Cocky ego almost got her killed? Senzu Bean and back to being cocky. Ginyu taking over her body, having to have her adapt to show her ability isn't just a number? Vegito fixes.

I really do hope they just don't go the "I was under mind control, I couldn't help myself" angle. 2 Replie(s)

Why didn't she destroy the Senzu Bean?

Now this is a great moment.

Late reply, but I couldn't let this go unanswered...

>Goku did throw Cell a senzu before he started fighting SS Gohan

Remember, he has Goku's cells within him as well. And he knows why he got a senzu bean. Its because he knows Goku wants no excuses. If Cell was going to lose, he was going to lose at 100% Also: GOKU GAVE HIM A SENZU BEAN! He didn't ask for it, or take it from them, he was given one.

>Later, he realized he was losing and tried to blow up the whole planet,

Later, when he was Semi-Perfect, when he no longer was the perfect being he was before. Its why when he came back perfect he didn't just blow up the planet.

>The moment that Cell realized he was losing to SS2 Gohan in that final beam struggle, his inner Frieza would have kicked in and he would have done literally anything not to lose.

But he didn't. That's because there was nothing he could have done to not lose. He lost a beam struggle and thus lost his life. If his Frieza instincts would have kicked in, it would have been when he returned and blown up the planet.

>Most of the DBZ villains were written that way, they talked big until they were on the ropes, and then they tried to rage quit. Bra isn't any better, and that's kind of the point.

They're not though. They each act their own ways that makes them memorable villains. Vegeta's fighting spirit and pride, Frieza rage quitting, Cell having Goku's aspects but going for them in the wrong way. Buu's childlike nature. Bra being a brat. They're all distinct from each other personality wise and combat tactics. Its why when we say Frieza flips the table he's a villain but why Bra heals herself up she's a coward. One is an action you expect from a villain. The other is what you expect from someone who isn't so sure of herself. Or overly cautious. Or has a serious case of the munchies. Its failing to display what they want her to be.

You know I hope the rest of the chapter is Kakarot trying to keep his head on his shoulder but failing.

But I still wonder how he got immortal. Since Raditz knows, I'm thinking it was his idea. Both of them got immortality, Raditz just didn't show it off as much as Kakarot did.

Technically speaking, Garlick Jr would be the "can't die from old age" kind of immortal since no one did major damage to him like, say, cut off his head.


Again, that seems way too smart for Kakarot. Not to mention by this time wouldn't most of the Z-Fighters be focused on beating Kakarot?


As funny as that is, by the time Piccolo and Kami showed up Garlic made the wish. 3 Replie(s)

While the theory of Kakarotto is immortal seems to be confirmed, my question is how he's immortal? He does not seem to be the kind of person smart enough to wish for immortality. And I can see it being something done after meeting Raditz and all that. 2 Replie(s)

I don't see it as being out of character because we don't really see those aspects of Bra. Its implied or told, but not shown. Like she showed a little sorrow about hurting Vegito and Gohan back in Buu and how does she respond? Page 364 - "I saved you". That's not showing someone who is afraid of her power. That's showing someone who thinks the ends justify the means as long as we win. And that's the real problem with Bra. How she's written Vs how she's perceived. The author wants her to be considered a smart, tactical person who is good, but they don't do it properly.

Zangya: Was forbidden to hurt and kill her or be thrown out of Tournament. Proceeds to kill her. Gets off Scott free because "she tried". Perfect chance to teach her a lesson about Anger Control by living up to the punishment. Perfect chance to understand that anger is a bad thing. NOPE! She's still in the tournament.

Ginyu: Has body taken over. Was given back said body minutes later. Perfect chance to show her humility by showing a smarter opponent can win by keeping her in Cold's body and trying to get her's back. NOPE! She gets her body back with no problem what so ever.

Like I said before, multiple people have multiple different descriptions of Bra using the same source material. You saw someone who loves her family and fears her power. I see someone who sees Power Levels being the only important thing. Others see a spoiled brat and a morally gray person. And having her admit she accepted it would finally show Bra's character. Not her power level or fighting ability. But what she is as a character. 1 Replie(s)

@King 4
>Discipline them

Vegito is likely going to beat up Bra, but not to discipline her. She's likely still going to be Majin-ized and force him to fight her. @Moth got the right idea since as far as we know Vegito wouldn't beat up his kids. 1 Replie(s)

Actually with Buu and Vegeta, you could say that those who had the Majin Seal were never really slaves. Let's take a look at those who were canonly under Babidi's control.

Yamu - We don't know his backstory but when he saw Spopovich die by Babidi's hands, he tried to escape. And that's STILL with the Majin Seal.

Spopovich - Lost to Mr. Satan. Took immense joy on beating Videl, Satan's daughter. You could realistically see him wanting power.

Pui Pui - He does act like Bra does despite facing Vegeta. He definitely is a person who would want more strength.

Yakon - Honestly just seems like a random creature, but in DBM's Special Chapter the other creature was fighting him over Gohan, making it that even in Dragon Ball Multiverse's canon the Majin's Control is not absolute.

Dabura - Remember when Babidi finally got Majin Buu? What did Dabura, the most loyal of Babidi did? Fight Majin Buu (after he attacked him, mind you, but considering his face after Babidi thought he beaten Buu suggest he probably would have tried to get rid of Buu).

Including Vegeta and not Buu, that's three people who showed to be able to ignore Babidi's commands and two with a reason to accept it. And I'm pretty sure Yamu is no where near Vegeta in terms of pride or power. So logically, unless the writer decided to make Babidi different from the main canon, Bra accepted it willingly.

But I am going to suspect the writer made it so Babidi's control was the true fault. Because honestly it would be a lot better for a story perspective if it was Bra who accepted it. A moment of weakness and fear about being beaten despite being stronger made her go over the edge. And when freed, the consequences of her actions really makes her want to change to be a good person. Could also expand to Vegitto who blames himself for not being a good father figure to her but instead be the reason for her insecurities. 2 Replie(s)

So Babidi is the Stronger Will? Well, for all the negativity, now is the best time to cut to another chapter.

Okay, let me try to explain the double standard here:
Imagine playing a game where you and your party are very low level. Its Fire Emblem and if they die they're dead for good. The boss your fighting can realistically kill you in one shot and if you survive its because the boss was playing around. Would it be fair to use health restoring potions when you're so under leveled that's the only chance you can survive?

Now imagine that boss with let's say 20% damage and still going around talking cocky because they could literally kill you in one shot and they know it. But using the remaining skill points you manage to increase that damage to 30%. So said boss, who could still kill you in one shot, and can fight very efficiently despite the injuries, kills a party member and takes half of your healing items to get back to 100%. All the progress you made, gone. Half if not all your resources, gone. And they act cocky and could have killed you but prioritized healing themselves with your items that were your only fighting chance.

That is the frustration with Bra. She could have ended this fight anytime she wished. She could realistically kill them each in one blow as seen twice before with the other Gohan and that space dude. She STILL could have killed them in one shot even after being blasted by Gohan as proven with Piccolo. All that work to get her to a hurt state, even if it really doesn't effect her, gone in an instant. All the work they put it gone. Making the people who supported them basically waste their time because everything they done until then has been erased and those who were hoping to see Bra be "badass" gets frustrated as she pops pills when she got the equivalent of a paper cut. Using it when your arm is cut off was smart. Using it after Gohan hit you with a beam that realistically didn't do much, not so smart. In fact, giant waste of resources she could have used later one when the other, more powerful and skilled fighters, come to play.


No he wouldn't. Cell is about proving his perfection. If he would have done that, he would be admitting he is not perfect. Its why he arrived in front of them when he came back from being blown up. Its why he targeted Trunks with a surprise attack and not Gohan. He wanted to prove to Gohan he was better than him. He wanted Gohan at his best so he took out the others to get his goat. Gohan broke his arm for Vegeta was a lucky bonus for Cell.


Frieza is Bra done right. Cocky because his numbers are higher. Sees them have a healer, take them out (not use them when they're still in fighting condition). Gets frustrated when someone is powerful. Cheats by blowing up a planet and using his physiology against the person who can't breathe in space. When healed, instead of retreating to heal up to full he went to attack Goku. When back as a cyborg he wanted Goku there to get revenge. When he came back in Super, he decided to train before fighting Goku. Dragon Ball does an excellent job presenting his worst in the best light. We see him cocky and powerful against the weak and cheating and angry against the strong. When Krillin cut off his tail, he didn't force Dende to heal him when he went 100%, because he knew he didn't need them.


He whines because no matter the form he acts like a kid. Nativity for the first form, immaturity for the second, Rage for the third.


The third option is that Bra doesn't really have a defined character. You saw a morally gray character, another saw a good girl, and I saw a not nice person. That's three different interpretations of the same character using the same information (the webcomic). You can love Frieza or you can hate Frieza. Either way, you know he's a bad guy. You could love or hate Goku but either way you know he's a good guy. You could love or hate Vegeta but you can understand his thought process easily because you understand him as a character. Bra doesn't have that. Some people see Bra eating the senzu beans as a tactic while others see it as a sign of cowardness. Some see a confident fighter while another sees her as a cocky power level abuser.

The reason she gets the hate is because not everyone sees the same character. The Bra you see is different from the Bra I see and the Bra another person sees. And I get the feeling all three are different from the Bra they're trying to convey.


There is a lot of negativity. But within that negativity is criticism hoping to get them to improve. If they can see what is truly something trying to help them and what is just hate, they can improve the comic for every party. Like imagine the scene with her killing Piccolo but instead of eating the Senzu, she destroys them. I can guarantee you, no one would complain about her doing that and then killing off Gohan. Because Dragon Ball did that exact thing with Frieza. Killing the source of healing because you know, you are better than them.


Thing is, there are people who complain about DBS and GT the exact same way (and sometimes worse) than those who do in DBM. I've seen someone trash the Manga Artist of DBS for ruining characters established in the original manga. Or making worse versions of characters that exist in the anime. And I know people complained about Jiren being boring. So its not being held on a higher standard, its being held on the same standard.

And of course, there are those who do criticize the original - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LQxc0Y_b84 1 Replie(s)

In theory, leading to her wanting to lose her Humanity.


Which is honestly a cop out. She could have beaten her in one strike, but instead it was definitely unnecessary to go all that powerful.


Considering she could make as many wishes as she wants back home, its like giving someone who needed a dollar when you have millions.


I don't see a good kid. I see someone who is expected to be good but doesn't really have the qualities of one. She has all the negative aspects of Goku and Vegeta. Cocky, thinking highly of herself, who wants to fight and get stronger while not really thinking things through. She's only good in the aspects her father and Gohan taught her. But with how easily she is being controlled by Majin, none of those lessons really got through to her. She doesn't have the pride of a warrior because she is expected to be strong and keels over when proven otherwise. She doesn't have the good nature of Gohan because she still thinks herself highly over others. She got issues and they're gonna pay.

So now Dragon Ball Multiverse and Dragon Ball Super has one more thing in common...

Gohan is half the man he was in Z.



I wouldn't say it makes him less special. It just shows that Babidi's control has limits that are the most extreme. Cell being part Vegeta has to have the same level of pride to not bow down himself, which is why the Universe 13 Vegeta is with the others. He definitely is more evil, but his pride won't allow him to be ordered around by anyone.


Honestly, with how she was talking in Page 1603 and how other Saiyans are depicted, I think she would have killed Gohan if given the chance but didn't because "she was too human". Now that Babidi locked away that aspect, she's "freed".


Besides, Bra showed she is completely weak willed. The Cocky Attitude and Reliance on Senzu Beans shows she's only confident because her numbers are bigger. Take that away and she's pretty much will lay there and die. The chance to prove otherwise, she would likely give that up.

So why not get them to help out? While one team works on one chapter, the others can work on it ahead of time. The art in Mirai Universe special looks good and would probably look well in a black and white style. And the Universe 13 Origin Special give me a One feel in a good way. 1 Replie(s)

Looking back, it does seem to be just like before. I would blame the confusion on two things: the distortion of the teleportation doesn't look like its teleportation, more like moving her fast. Like in the fight with Cold, she swings one way but the distortion makes it seem like she's moving another. This one, downward motion with downward distortion. And the SFX probably would pop better if it was white with a black outline instead of the reverse.

Or to make it clearer, show the teleportation lines in panel 2 and then her suddenly appearing swinging in Panel 3.

Thing is what she's showing isn't really showing off any of that. There is no ingenuity or creativity as she's basically using the same tactics. And she keeps falling for things despite the analytical mind and strategy. In fact downing the Senzu Beans despite not really needing it at this point shows the opposite of strategy or ingenuity. The only reason she's doing well is because these people don't have her stats. What this is showing me is that she maybe all powerful, but she sucks when it comes to creativity or strategy. Her entire tactic is to mock and overpower and down Senzus when you get the chance. This is because in her world, there is no challenge. There is no reason to be creative or strategic. Its why she was so quick to accept Ginyu's challenge before: she knew she can overpower him after downing some senzus. She's definitely his daughter though, she has his arrogance and willingness to play around.

Let's assume there is an exact fight like that. Off the bat its already different than Bra's because of two things: he's using the Senzu Beans to heal his allies, not himself and he's using IT because his opponent is faster. Those two differences shows how that's a strategic idea because it is ensuring your allies will have everything they need to either escape or defend themselves and using IT to bridge the gap in speed shows a good use of technique over pure stat.

You don't get that here. This is power levels over tactics.


I won't argue about the first time, but the second time honestly isn't that bad in comparison. With one eye she was still fighting strongly and even at full blast she still manage to take out Piccolo and use said injured arm to do it. If she was badly injured, then Piccolo should have been able to defend himself, but she really wasn't. She may look bad but her posture and expression shows she's still in fighting condition even before eating them. They maybe able to hurt her, but she could kill them off anytime she wished, even in this state as proven with Piccolo. It just makes her look less impressive (or cowardly) to eat Senzu Beans despite still having everything needed to win. Heck, it would probably have been better to keep the remaining beans instead of eating because as you expect, she may need it later on.


Its likely going to be Vegito. If they wanted this team to win they would have by now.

That is a good point, though I do feel there are issues with that.

1-Some people do things out of habit. I've been seeing this since the beginning and even though I would wish to wait till a chapter is complete I keep coming back on the usual days. And it didn't bother me before because the pacing in the beginning fit the updating. Like Pan Vs Bojack in the beginning: there was a lot going on in such a short amount of time. In a three a week schedule, there wouldn't be a problem with the pacing and it moves on in a few weeks. Or Vegetto Vs Broly, which was also a long fight but had a lot happening. Broly attacking everyone, Vegetto fighting him, the big reveal of SS3, and it continues with Buu Vs him and Bra revealing her own strength. Was done well and in the schedule wouldn't have been an issue. But with this fight, it is starting to feel repetitive.

2- Being comparable to the manga is a double edge sword. The Manga (questionably) has unnecessary pages because it releases its chapter all at once. But at the end of the day this is a webcomic that releases 3 pages a week (give or take). A manga has those breathing pages because you get it all at once. A webcomic doesn't need that since its a release per page. So one panel is as effective as a full page since if you follow the updates you have time to breathe between pages. Again, Pan Vs Bojack showed how a fight like that could be done in a webcomic form. The last panel always have a set up for the next page. And if you read it via schedule or all at once it flows nicely. In this fight, things suddenly stops per page. That leads those following to wonder what's going to happen, and at worse turn into frustration when it goes in a direction not favorable (as seen in the last two pages).


Thing is it could end suddenly for one reason or another. Long fights also means less story to tell. And honestly, that would bring more people to them.

Not really. The smartest way to fight in DBZ would be working together. What Bra is doing is a terrible strategy and the only reason its working is at best she's more powerful than them and at worst plot shielding. If someone like her tried a strategy like this in Dragon Ball, her teleportation would be predictable so if she was fighting someone faster or with good reflexes she would be hit. And wasting Senzu Beans for ever minor damage means you won't have enough when something major happens.

Like this same thing happens in Avengers Assembled and they showed that it can be countered. https://youtu.be/gTnRhRInlKA?t=89


The difference in this case is for someone who is much more powerful than them (even taunting them), she's quick to go for a Senzu Bean when she could literally one shot kill them. We don't complain when the good guys take them because they established they don't stand a chance against her. Conversely, Bra's attitude and power establishes that she should win this but going for a Senzu Bean and eating it makes it seem less like she was trying to stop their healing and more like she was desperate to get back to full health.

What would establish her having underhanded tactics would be destroying the beans, not eating them. That would create the effect she's unbeatable much more effectively because it would say their best shot wasn't worth using the beans. Then if she did save one, she could use it for later because they thought it was all gone. That shows being unbeatable and resourceful a lot more than how they did it here.


Still criticism can help. If releasing them a page after page is causing frustration, they could release a single chapter monthly instead. Or adapt the manga into a webcomic format and quicken the story by cutting unnecessary parts (Like when Gohan goes for the Kamehameha, instead of establishing Gohan can turn the beam, have Bra teleport to him, thus blocked by the shield, then establish Gohan able to turn it, then Bra hit by it, after effect, only to reveal she got to Piccolo. That could be done in 3-4 pages instead of 7).
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In the same amount of time this fight has been happening, the Buu Saga gave us 4 Volumes. That's 73 Chapters. The problem is this is a webcomic trying to be like a Manga. When a Manga is released, it releases a full chapter at least. But since this is a webcomic, they have to release it one page at a time. So re-reading it wouldn't be an issue since you'll be reading an entire chapter in one sitting, following it is much rougher since you have to wait days (and if the specials happening a month) to find out what happens next.

@Bra's Fighting Capabilities
Hopefully she's not planning to eat that Senzu and just is taking it for later consumption. Because if she does, it would definitely prove she is a terrible fighter. That would be poor resource management. If she uses it for a minor thing like now, when she needs it for something major she's going to find her supply empty. Especially since her opponents have a higher edge thanks to Buu's ability to heal.