Kingmouli was saying: Crow was saying: Man, it's so obvious that this fan series is written by people who have English as their second language.
Sometimes it's pretty hard to understand what the characters are trying to say, even if the grammar isn't bad.

There’s an error in the first sentence Raichi says: it should be “I don’t see what you’re trying to insinuate”. And unlike the original French version, it doesn’t sound natural, to me at least, in English.

If I’m not wrong Salagir writes both the French and English translations (or gets help with the English one). Then the latter is used to translate to most other languages.


Crow was saying: Man, it's so obvious that this fan series is written by people who have English as their second language.
Sometimes it's pretty hard to understand what the characters are trying to say, even if the grammar isn't bad.
The english is fine, you two.

Should they say "Yall" and speak in contemporary atypical young American lingo? Ridiculous.

— Signed, young American

What does that dragonfly symbol mean?

Noooope! No no, little birdy! You cannot cute your way out of this! Either you give us a logical explanation in the next pages or this is as bs as magic!

Mr Quill was saying:
Droutt was saying: Can I kiss Bra ?


Dude. Shes 16. What is wrong with you people. Still a kid.


No one implied a romantic kiss, as far as I can see.

...No, I still don't forgive you for killing Phipsil (and Nedwook). Winning the tournament & saving their universe is your only redemption. :|

Yes fighting someone much stronger than you alone always works

Vegetto should've gone straight to SSJ3 and attack immediately...I guess he is still half Vegeta.

I'm not sure I like this fourth wall breakage, but I do like Buu's tone.
Now to find out why on Earth this doesn't just end with Gast using magic to trap Buu in a ball again...

J.I.L was saying: It's stupid. Because the nameless namekian of eons ago should only be like radditzs to nappa level. Not a powerhouse.

Uh, no? That's how strong NORMAL not gifted namekians are in adulthood.


Call it stupid all you want, it's consistent with the universe.

Average namekians are at a range of about 2000. Above raditz, but below nappa.

Nail is at 42,000 beyond any base saiyan in history, minus broly until goku and vegeta, and gohan trained/got zenkaied past that.

Guru can sense ki, meaning that he can feel how strong nail AND post zarbon zenkai vegeta is. So he has a measuring stick to compare to what the nameless namekian's power is. Factually above 42,000

Obviously being old would make him weaker than in his prime, but to only make him a bit above radiz or even below him is seriously lowballing them when your average namekian farmer could kill him.

Aaaaaaaaand he's free!!

And all of them just stood there until he freed himself!!

"I can assure you all this is pointless…"

No! It isn't! Your existence on the other hand!

Michelrpg was saying: Im not sure what your complaint even is here.
I'm not complaining. Just wondering where's is he going with this...

Michelrpg was saying: What "did he do" that requires justification? Lying about keeping Buu a prisoner? Because.. I think that's about the extent of it. And while lying obviously isn't a good thing, it's hardly something that needs justification, considering these very same gods pre-emptively killed every possible potential threat to their universe, including and not limited to murdering babies in their crib.
That's beside the point. While I like Zen Buu & don't want him to be send back, I can admit that he went against the tournament's rules & should have been sent back. Grand Kai already made an exception for him where he shouldn't. And the deal was to contain him & only release him for his fight. So, yes, Grand kai should give a good reason as to why he lied & let Zen Buu run free putting everyone at danger again. As far as we know, Gast "stop" technique worked on Buu & he was about to be sent back. But Grand Kai interfered & lied about being able to copy Gast's technique, which then led to Buu to do whatever he wants.

DarkClaw was saying: Easy there tiger, this dude is literally mid-speech and you're already jumping to conclusions lol
mid-speech? The guy had a whole page for him saying nothing important & you're saying he's still "mid-speech"? xD

After 69 pages, I must say something. These character designs are extremely lacking, don't go and tell me "Well other people had already said it before you and yourself included." because I really don't care. Most of these Namekians are basic looking with no defining traits, okay fine this one guy has a scar, big deal? The enemies they're fighting look like they were based off of older characters. You got this guy who as countless times said before looks like Goku & Piccolo combined. You got this other one who looks like a more overweight than buff, looking Bojack.

Then you got some basic ass robot? And what's with the Namekian on this page? He looks like The Demon King Piccolo but with Junior's clothing.

This really looks like it was poorly prepared, and drawn on a whim, rushed through. Then the story, don't get me started, at first it was interesting, then it made me lose interest once I became lost in it. Some of the dialogue is just yuck, not enough SHOW, and too much TELL.

I also have to add on what thebritwriter was saying in the previous page, and agree with him. I hate it when people say "NONONO! YOU CAN'T SAY NEGATIVE THINGS TO PEOPLE, THAT DISCOURAGES THEM REEEEEE!", like its somehow my problem?

First of all, you should always give negative feedback, that's how criticism works, here's a great analogy I've created. If you're a Chef, and you make a dish that is terrible, your Superior, mentor, whatever you're going to call him, is gonna criticize you negatively, he's going to tell you where your problems lies. Often times they will tell them what they did right, but the emphasis isn't on what they did right, but what they did wrong.

You can't get better by people constantly encouraging you, and you can't get upset because someone didn't like something you did. Just because you "Feel" that something should be a certain way, doesn't mean it should. I'm not saying the readers are always right, but they should be heard, they should listened to.

Not to bring politics in, but another example could be used like this. If a Politician, only listened to those who praised him, he'd only continue doing the same thing he is currently doing rather than trying to improve on the areas where he is bad, not that Politicians ever care about people, but we're ignoring realism at the moment, and trying to make analogy out of it.

A Chef, A Politician, whatever you are, YOU MUST, take into consideration, the negative criticisms THE MOST. It is those that are the most important, we're not children, we're not two year olds, we're not six year olds, who need sugarcoating and stepping around the issue, not that I would step around the issue with little ones, but we still shouldn't sugarcoat each other.

I could care less if this crappy writer on fanfiction.net is 12 yo. You think I got to where I am by pure praisal? No I got to it by people correcting me, telling me what I'm doing wrong and telling me what they think I should do that would better improve my skill, and YET I still get backlash, no matter how well I explain this.

Most of us are Adults. Most likely everyone here is either an Adult or an young adult, and if we aren't being blunt to each other, if we're stepping around the problem, tiptoeing it. We're being children. Adults don't step around the problem, real Adults are blunt, and get to the source of the problem rather than tiptoeing around someone's feelings.


So I think Joe's comment, although negative, was perfectly acceptable, and although Today's Society would backlash him for it, Joe is still in the right.


On an upside note, here comes all the battery jokes! This is gonna be funny, lmao.


My suggestions for future reference, would be give more time to design the characters, not just appearance, but characterization wise. One thing people often do these days is either...

A. Make their character SIMILAR to an existing character or give them a name that's too similar to an existing character, such as "Goken", which is stupid af.

OR

B. Don't understand certain preexisting characters, or their own character's characterization. Especially Goku's, I think his the most is often misunderstood by many many and many of today's viewers of Dragon Ball. DBS is a prime example of taking the most basic layer of Goku's own character from Dragon Ball and NOT Z, rather than actually looking at his character in its fullness.

Yes he's a flat character, but people also misunderstand what a flat character is. They don't change in major ways, they change in very very very little, and it's those minor ways that change everything. I'm not gonna go in to detail but I will point out one thing, Goku can learn, he learned mercy, and this was taught to him by Eighter, which is yes cannon.

This actually changed a lot about Goku's character, although his reasons for giving mercy may be different than for the reason Eighter taught him, but he truly does believe no mercy is wrong, but will come to killing if it comes to it. So to say, "well he's a flat character" is a mere misunderstood excuse.

Anyways I don't wanna get into that, that's a whole other discussion.

Although less extreme, this does remind me of page 1615.

I'm assuming we're supposed to believe that Cell wasted enough energy fooling around that Vegeta now stands a chance and whatever his last trick is will be what puts him over the edge.

To go from Mystic+ to ssj2+ Cell must really be running on fumes.

Won't this divide its power level by 4? Like Tenshinhan during the 23rd tournament? Or maybe just one of them got power...

Anyway. This is your last fight, Cell. May has well show everything you got.

Kaio-what?!

Trascen-what?!

Ok, I know power levels are not to be discussed here, but tiers are fair game, right?

We just saw Max Kaioken Uub go toe-to-toe with (allegedly) near full power SSJ3 Goku. Goku even seems winded after that earlier exchange. This new level of Kaioken should in theory place him above SSJ3 Goku. Even if this is a temporary power-up, take for example U9 Videl vs Majin Cell Jr. Majin Cell Jr. was absolutely CRUSHED by the sudden charge. While I doubt Goku will beaten by this, I am sure he is about to take a beatdown of epic proportions for at least a few seconds. He might even have to go full power right here, instead of against Vegeta.

I feel its a missed opportunity here on Vegeta commenting further by the way. Uub is clearly doing much better than Vegeta has against SSJ3 Goku if we go by what the novels and the specials have shown. I am surprised he has nothing to say about Uub clearly surpassing his own level.

dim1899 was saying: Genuinely wondering... how is such a worn out body supposed to withstand a transcended kaioken? Uub should have few seconds at best.


Same way that Goku was able to pull a Kaioken X4 after using a Kaioken X3 to beat the ever living crap out of Vegeta in the Saiyan Saga.

Your nickel was saying: Here come the tier list debates
The power scailing is garbage... so it dosen't really matter. ssj3 goku should be stomping uub, right now. UUB should only be around a ssj2 goku.

Salagir didn't pay attention to details.

Vegeta realizing that he's been reduced to power up fodder.

hahah all gohan fans losers an dbz he get alot of power and wins but an dbs is gohan=yamcha
and this dbz multiverse he get alot of fans manga(multiverse) He received a lot of respect and power that he is the strongest
but Everyone knows the truth an after dbz buu saga He stopped training and he weakened dramatically
so vegeta ssj2 rage kill gohan the loser battle of gods and vegeta ssj2 rage stronger than ssj3 goku
so stop be losers fans of gohan He is a scholar and he stopped training

DrewSaga was saying: Uhh Vegeta, are you still alive?

probably not lol, he was right in the blast

How the hell did Videl and Pan die when Gohan took the brunt of that blast? Why didn't both of these idiots (Goku and Gohan) darted towards the Lookout when they had the chance? Any one of them could have got there in a blink of an eye at this point! AND WHY ARE YOU GOING ONLY SUPER SAIYAN WHEN SSJ3 IS BARE MINIMUM AT THIS POINT AGAINST BROLY, YOU FLIPPING IDIOT?! WHAT THE HELL IS THIS CONTRIVANCE?!

I already hate the direction of this story. Not the fact that Broly will eventually kill them all, but how much of an idiot ball has been dropped on all of their heads. Not nearly as much during the whole Bra fiasco, but it's so noticeable at this point.

Broly gonna make Zeno his bitch, confirmed.

Gohan is a pussy he didnt do anything when videl was beaten by spopovich, and now the same thing with his daughter

LOL, I love how Goku is straight up whining about Vegeta being so below him.

Hi guys I know this is a bit offtopic, but do you think at some point U17 Cell fought U17 SSJ3 Goku?

As you can see at this page Goku (U6) wanted to return for 1 day to fight Bojack but didnt get autorisation from King Yemma because Bojack is no universal like Cell. https://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/page-399.html

So in U17 if Goku asked the same thing to King Yemma he would get autorisation for 1 day to return to earth since King Yemma himself mentions that Cell is a universal danger. And since that Goku from U17 is pretty much the same as U18 Goku he should have trained his ass off in the afterlife and should have gained SSJ2 and SSJ3 especially with Gohan and Trunks around him.

What do you guys think about this possibility?

Let me guess. Magic lady casts a spell on Gohan to hypnotise him or make him be her slave... And their love with Videl will break the spell? At least I get this vibe.

What was it? Big bads of the universe joined forces to blablabla? Is this setting the result of said alliance? Heck, Pilaf would do better than this.

I can't read the Arabic alphabet, but if what the artist decided to go with is Arabic letters just randomly being typed in, that's just straight-up disrespectful, totally unprofessional at least!.. Especially that DBM has an Arabic section. Never believed I'd say this, but Wingdings would've been a wiser choice my friend.. If it's not really Arabic, consider what I said crossed out.
(Is it just me, or the first line on the last panel it kind of looks like it spells HADOKEN?...and now my initial theory seems to be stronger...last line kind of reads SLAVE)

Also - I can definitely see why it was decided to have the helmets on for Videl and Gohan. Shortcut for the artist, whose strength is definitely not drawing faces..No offense.

Wow! This is actually the earliest I've ever been to a chapter! Ssj3 Vegito vs Fake Ssj3 Bra is nice and all, but let's get back to the main continuity soon please.

On a serious note, Vegito has no weakness so it futile for "it"/the enemy.

Shabby was saying: Matrixkid was saying: People seem to think Cell can just regenerate from anything and it'd give him a zenkai, and I'm scared Sali thinks like that as well. If Cell could just suicide bomb, regenerate, and get a zenkai from that, THAT would truly make him a broken character.

Eh, self inflicted wounds don't work, so probably not. He only blew himself up because Gohan had already beat him up. You could say his zenkai came from the beatdown and not the detonation.
Ghast is fodder. He’s like goku level. So tier 2 level.
Tier 1:
Vegito,
zen buu
ssj2 bra
Broly
Tier 2:
Goku
Vegeta 18
Gotenks
Ghast
Raichi
Gohan
Uub
Cell
Tier 3:
Majin buu
Vegeta 13
Kakarot
South Kai
Tapion
Cell junior
Tier 4:
Dabura
Pan 16
Bojack
Zangya
Cold
West and supreme kaioshin
Cyborg yamcha
Trunks 12
Elite Heliotes
Tier 5:
Cooler
Frieza
Rest of universe 9
Demon king Piccolo
Bardock
Radditzs
Nappa
East and north kaioshin
Android 16
Heliotes
Pan 18
ANdroid 17 and 18
Tier 6:
Frieza/cooler elites
New king vegeta
Universe 2
Namekians of universe 10
Universe 6 girls
Tier 7:
Spectators and everyone else