Goku coming back to help teach Tien, and possibly other fighters too, how to use the techniques he's learnt in Otherworld is a smart move if you think about it. Interference with the living world is a big no-no for those who are able to keep their bodies, with the exception we've seen with Vegeta being allowed back to fight Buu and Goku temporarily taking him on Buu when the tournament he was supposed to be coming back for gets interrupted by Babadi and his minions (and if you wish to take it into consideration Goku was scolded by King Kai NOT to help Gohan in the Bojack movie, though does so anyways despite being told he could not interfere). The powers that be wouldn't send a soul from Otherworld to deal with a Saiyan-level threat, not when you have tyrants like Frieza and his family creating death and destruction - all while Otherworld's West Quadrant holds back someone like Pikkon. Majin Buu was the exception to this rule as his threat wasn't just Planetary or Solar System levels of destruction, but threatened the way of life as everyone knew it. Goku's best bet here is to teach at least Tien how to use the Kaioken and Spirit Bomb techniques, in hopes that he can both master them to an extent or help teach those techniques to the others. We also dont know when Goku comes back to teach Tien, in the main timeline Goku learns these techniques and comes back in time to fight the Saiyans before Krillin and Gohan are killed. That still leaves many years to go until these events occur, so if this happens early on there's a good chance Tien has a grasp of the Kaioken at a higher level - albeit much lower than what Goku could handle.





Who's to say that Gero didn't anticipate the possible return of a being just like Goku but stronger, as well as potentially Goku's son but on the other team? Personally I feel as though Gero would want to keep a backup plan incase the Saiyans did return, though I also agree that with Goku gone there may not be any form of Android. What a plot twist that would be if things get dire only for an Android to appear!

XII will wish for the ability to travel between Universes to not just be limited to the species who discovered it, which will allow for Zen Buu to return using the knowledge and technology he obtained, who would then free Uub who has since developed a technique that would deal with XXI in an instant.. or so I hope!
XII gets dealt with, Buu is proclaimed to be the hero, and Vegito loses his marbles at this spectacle giving us the breakdown we see him having in Bardock's vision 1 Respuesta(s)

I hate how this is presented as though canonically factual to the series. At no point is the Mafbua "obsolete" because of the target's power - only ever because of the user's lack of energy or life force, and never have we seen someone negate the Mafuba - only ever reflected back or redirected to another target so long as the move is anticipated by the target. Piccolo is seen reflecting it - presumably due to knowledge of the move and his link to Kami, and Frost (if you want to include DBS into the discussion) redirecting it after having witnessed the move a couple of times.

The Mafuba only ever fails because the move is anticipated or seen before, the user doesn't have the strength to use it on their target, there is no container or the container is broken, or because the technique was a success but no seal was used on the container (or the seal is removed).

In this instance, I think Nappa SHOULD have been hit by the Mafuba (trying to stop it with his mouth beam, ultimately failing and confusing himself ontop of his new fear of the Mafuba), but Chaozu should have failed in hitting his target due to not having enough strength to hold Nappa long enough for sealing. Vegeta sees this, scolds Nappa on his negligent broken state, and kills him ultimately shocking some sense into Gohan. 2 Respuesta(s)

IIRC, doesn't the open door mean that energies can be felt from within? Perhaps the door remaining open will alert other fighters to what is going on and lead to some sort of confrontation 1 Respuesta(s)

Seeing a lot of "Raditz's Potential > Kakarotto/Goku's Potential despite no training", but I think a lot of people forget that while he may not have been training, Raditz wasn't sitting idly by. He alongside Nappa and Vegeta had been through countless battles, conquering planets for Frieza and (more than likely) getting stronger simply through combat if not by Zenkai. Fighting foes of various powerlevels out in space is bound to strengthen you up faster than being stuck on a planet where the highest powerlevel (at the time) was <900. Makes more sense as to why Goku's initial growth was slower to begin with, given even Demon King Piccolo was <300 at the time

Tbf, Goku went Great Ape as a child and was revealed to be a Saiyan when Raditz arrived (before meeting his fate in this universe). If our Z-fighters are smart enough they would make that connection, especially if they saw tails like Goku had as a child

I'd like to imagine that, in Mr. Satan style, he gets caught up in the shockwave only to "fly" to safety due to the sheer force

Well, if the barrier between realms wasn't weak enough as-is with all the fighting, here comes a being that removes that barrier altogether. Broly wins because Janemba collapses the dimensions?

Could these be the parents of, and/or inspired by, Android #19? I could see it being possible that this is a universe where Goku did not defeat the RRA as a kid, thus leaving more personel for Gero to work on. Similar to #16 being modeled after Gero's son, maybe these two were modeled after #19?

Aren't we at like, ~600 years post-Z? Soon enough we will have skipped more time than what passed before Goku was born (Age 736 IIRC)

Looking at the first panel the energy coming from Gast is lighter in color, before turning into the shady energy we see in the other panels. I feel like this is a connect on Gast's part, as I don't feel like Janemba would scream in pain for being recalled. Could it be that Gast is harnessing whichever energy it was that sealed his healing now that he has forced it out? I do like the idea of it being one of the spells Buu used on him, but maybe this could be Gast's "I'm not an entirely pure guy" reveal? Would be a great trump card against someone who assumes otherwise

I'm guessing this is the 4-star ball? I could see Goku's spirit coming to say hello akin to how he did for Goku Jr., maybe even lead Tambo down the correct path?

Uub and Raditz were among the first to charge at Broly.. I could see it for Uub, but how are both of them appearing completely unscathed when both Gohan and Vegeta in the last page were battered and bloody?





I hate to be one that picks apart different fan mangas.. but I too agree with this take. You mean to tell me Cell, who regenerated from a planet-busting self destruction, got killed with a head-squash while someone like Freeza is able to hold him still momentarily? I'm hoping that Cell isn't actually dead, and is only taking a moment to regenerate due to exhausting from fighting Broly. I know that the outcome of this universe is ultimately with Broly being the last one standing, but I'd picture our heroes (and villains) putting up a bit more of a fight than that

Part of this could be backed by the Namekseijin Densetsu story, where on the current page Dende is bringing life back to the Earth Dragon Balls which are in stone form. Perhaps his life force is currently linked to Porunga, or as you mentioned perhaps he took the power of the Dragon Balls away from the Earthlings. In Namekseijin Densetsu however, Tambo is the guardian of Earth, so it would be likely that Dende took power of the Dragon Balls when he moved back to Namek. In that story it makes sense that the Earth's Dragon Balls are inactive as Tambo is not a Namekian himself, though with this story I'd assume Dende wouldn't abandon Earth without finding a new guardian.

To be fair half of the participants are killers, tyrants, sociopaths, and/or beings who only wish to have it all to themselves. Personally I wouldn't say the story is unnaturally prolonged due to these interruptions to the tournament, in all honesty I'm shocked that we haven't witnessed other characters aside from Buu and Babadi try something like this (though Cell was on the right track, taking advantage of the Babadi incident to have some fun of his own). Though, I do agree with you that it would be nice to see a few more fights go before an interruption. Maybe I'K'L is here to provide?

Also with I'K'L being a gag character up until this point, as much as it's comedic for the story I feel like it's the whole point of his character; we all thought it was a joke and joked along, but what has ever happened to any DBZ character that heavily underestimated their opponent? This could be our equivalent, we all thought him a joke and now he's here to show us otherwise. Think of a character like Arale, an absolute joke until you see what she can pull. Maybe I'K'L is some form of gag character?

Now, I know that this is more than likely Piccolo addressing all Warrior Clan Namekians to jump in and fight.. but what if he was asking for those capable of fighting to merge with him, giving him the boost in power he would need to win? Or even perhaps getting them to merge into a new Namekian, one who could take Piccolo's place as the guardian of his people

I have a feeling that the reason for them wanting Gohan taken out isn't because it "rivals" angelic power in terms of strength, but because it rivals angelic powers by having demonic origins

I'd love to know what Cold's inner dialogue is at this moment

"Oh look, the monkey's eating some fruit!"

IIRC, I believe #17 goes off to defend the island that we eventually see in DBS, and I think we even see him during the scene in the anime when everyone on Earth is lending energy to defeat Buu (I could be getting the series mixed up but I believe he was even wearing that tan-colored jacket that he wears in GT)



I'm not sure if I would say "irredeemable", I would just say near-impossible to do so at their point in time. The #17 and #18 we know turned good because of a few factors: Goku was alive so they didn't get bored and kill for fun like the Future Timeline, they had nature loving #16 travel with them, and the Z-Fighters (more specifically Krillin) attempt to wish their humanity back. Realistically I would say that this duo needs a proper mentor to bring them back onto the right path, and who better to do it than this version of Yamcha? My brain might be a bit fuzzy and correct me if I am wrong, but isn't this version of Yamcha considered an android as well? A good-hearted android, similar to that of the #16 we know. Plus it's like you mentioned, look at Vegeta; the one we know turned good because of his given circumstances, the only reason the others we see at this tournament are still considered to be "evil" is because they never had the same opportunities as our Vegeta. Sure, there's a Vegeta and Kakarot at this tournament but they never lived on Earth together or made friends with its inhabitants like we see throughout DBZ. No Goku, no good Vegeta. That being said, was that not the Vegeta that got teleported with all the "good guys"?

"..I can't let then catch up!"

Either Vegitto is going to be doing some mad training, or we're going to see him lose his mind and go after the duo

The count has already been finalized, it would be futile for Vegeta to try anything at this point as he has already been DQ'd by KO. At most, all it would achieve in doing is knocking Goku back to Otherworld for the 3rd time since the beginning of Z (would that even count as Goku being DQ'd?) 1 Respuesta(s)

Normally I'm skeptical on fan comics/mangas that proceed the point that the original/source material is at..
But I have to admit, this one has me intrigued to see where things go

Jiren is at such a high level of power that even a GoD candidate like Toppo cannot sense the energies that Jiren is sensing. Perhaps Gohan has met, if not surpassed, the level at which Jiren currently sits. It begs the question though, where does Frieza sit in terms of power with his new Black Frieza form? I would imagine Gohan sits above him considering Jiren and Whis have yet to show concern about Frieza, though you could say that Jiren mentioning that Goku's allies have attained much greater strength than what they had 3 years prior is a sign that he has also felt Frieza's power in his new form too

Personally I always knew of scouters as a technology the Saiyans stole from the Tuffles when taking Planet Vegeta (If I'm not mistaken this is how it was portrayed in the Anime), but in newer content its been shown that it was Frieza who introduced it to their race instead.
Though with these guys creating multiverse travel I don't see why they couldn't also make their own form of "scouter", especially one that - as stated in the left-hand bubble of the last panel - can pick up on signatures even if they aren't "diffusing energy", though you could argue the same for scouters as they've been shown to pick up (accurately or inaccurately) lower power levels whether they be low by nature or being suppressed by an experienced fighter (Think Goku using Kaioken in bursts against Nappa when arriving from Otherworld)