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Incredible! He turns into Super Saiyan 5 ! ! !
Stop!!! As long as I live, I'm not drawing this ending!
And... if we used your character instead of mine?
Ok!
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2009-10-13 23:47:45

Julian

@ Domitjen: I'm just interpreting what seems to make sense, not what is actually factual. Didn't know about the commercial trailer thing, but it would make sense being that goku didn't master SSj1 yet, if he did, he would have been able to go SSJ2 by then. And yes, I know the word mystic is used lightly, but I just use it as a classification of a Super Saiyan with hair that has not changed gold and then I explain why it isn't gold, it could be called anything you like, but I personally call it that for the reason people call Gohan's black haired Super Saiyan form "Mystic".

My whole point to begin with is that when you transform, there is stress on your body, you are tense and full of adrenalin, that's why their bodies get big. But once you get used to the form, the aura gets lighter, you become less tense and your body goes more and more back to it's original shape while keeping the speed you had in your base form but still using the ki power you accumulated.

Broly is huge because his anger causes his adrenalin to continue to increase, making his ki go up more and more, thus making the stress level on his body intense. The weight is suppose to make his body slower in that form, but I'm guessing he's had so much practice in that form (possibly on planets with more gravity) that he is used to it, either that or he's so insane that he doesn't care that there is stress on his body, he just wants to kill Goku even if it means killing himself in the process. Who knows... but his hair being highlighter green that just means to me that his ki is different then the other Super Saiyans, doesn't necessarily make it a different Super Saiyan form imo. And his eyes are white because his power is maximum, LOL
2009-10-13 23:51:24

Domitjen

@Julian

Ok, in movie 8 he might been like that, but in movie 10, he looks as an regular ssj in the beginning, no green or blue hair and a normal aura, ( when he is in ssj state not lssj), when he goes back to lssj, he also has pupilles again... there isn't really a theory, it's just how they decided to draw him:p
2009-10-14 00:40:48

Geno

@ Dr. Killjoy- That's all well and good, but Goku doesn't seem to be trying to stay super saiyan just yet in the Broly movie, so he hasn't really perfected it yet, so he is weaker in that sense. I never said he was weaker because of getting beat up. Also, I'm pretty sure Goku put a lot more power into his kamehameha against Cell. Cell was also holding back his power when Goku zapped him and even a while into his fight with Gohan.
Anyway, this is not me saying that Broly is stronger or weaker than Cell, I'm just saying you can't use how well they took the Kamehameha to judge.

@ Gongon- It's called logic, Gongon. These 3 pages were about being silly. You'd have to be pretty ignorent or gullable to think that this hints at ssj5. If you stop and think about it for even a minute, you'll see just how rediculous your reply to me was just now. Comic pages with Salagir being in the tournament, a saiyan Yajirobe, a gay Vegeta and someone in the audience yelling "First", and the ssj5 thing might be a hint? Get a clue, will ya? It's all a bunch of sillyness and nothing more. I don't have to write the comic or know everything to know what is common sense.

@ Mr. Satan- They got it from that? XD

@ Julian- Actually, they were doing a training of sorts durring those 10 days. They were getting more used to their super saiyan forms so it didn't put as big of a drain on their energy and stuff. However, in the Broly movie, they don't seem to be doing that. I get the feeling that they were stronger while fighting against Cell than they were fighting against Broly because of that, but I can agree that Cell was weaker than Broly until he reached his super perfect form.
PS: I'm not even reading that explination for Broly's hair. =P
2009-10-14 01:06:32

Sylar

genno i am sorry for what i am about to say and plz dont get mad or something...your problem is just that you dont like broly...he is strong...plz...and dont tell me he a an ascend sayajin cause his transformation is so diferent compared to the others the man freakin explode
2009-10-14 02:37:34

Chev Chelios

@Julian Dude, people debating in here know what they are talking about (most of the time) but you are just inventing stuff! WTF you don't know shit bro!!!! The hair was blue because of the controller devicer paragus had on Broly... nuff said
2009-10-14 03:22:38

JacobYBM

If you want to know all the facts about the Super Saiyan forms, check out Daizex.com's transformation guide: http://www.daizex.com/guides/transformations/saiyan/

The movies aren't canon so the character's aren't always as strong as they are in the series.
2009-10-14 04:40:52

SB

Wait. I missed something. Why can't we call it "Mystic" anymore? Is that bad? o.o;
2009-10-14 06:41:24

crackpot

Sylar: Was his power level...MAXIMUM?
2009-10-14 10:19:52

Mr. Satan

@julian, broly's natural hair is black like other saiyans.
the reason why his hair, had a blue/purple hue to it, was because of the mind control device, suppressing his power. at day time, this looked like a green color.
broly was super saiyan, when he attacked goku at night, the mind control device his father put on him, supressed his power, and caused the color change.

in movie 10, when he goes super saiyan, his hair is natural gold.

and the whole mystic name, was only given to gohan, when elder kai unlocked his full potential
2009-10-14 17:39:55

Dr. Killjoy

[IMAGE]
Broly owning trunks
2009-10-14 19:27:44

ssj3blade

Broly's light blue colour hair is his rssj form. Restricted Super Saiya-jin.

Anyway. Goku v Slug is gssj. Gigi Super Saiya-jin, gigi meaning false.

There is also no such thing as Mystic Super Saiya-jin. What your are referring to is fpssj. Full power. When a form is mastered, demonstrated by Goku and Gohan v Cell. ssj2 was never mastered, except by Goku in the Buu saga.

@ Julian. Your levels are completely incorrect.

ssj, ussj, ussj2, fpssj
ssj2, fpssj2
ssj3

These are the only ones shown in the manga. Ultra Super Saiya-jin is where you force excess chi into your muscles to make you stronger. Stage 2 is when you force so much in, it makes you much stronger but also a lot slower. And like I've said, full power is mastery of the form, in which the chi drain is no longer there, making it the most powerful form in the level.
2009-10-14 19:31:08

Dr. Killjoy

ascended super saiyan and ultra super saiyan are also known. as super saiyan 2nd and 3rd grade.
goku and gohan bypassed these, to perfect the regular super saiyan state, to counter the energy drain. as both ascenced and ultra sup, drain ki rapidly.

2009-10-14 23:28:58

Julian

@ Domitjen: Tru

@ Geno: I dunno though, because even in Cell's 100% Final form, he was very slow, I would say that maybe they're power levels could be very similar to each other (Possibly), but being that Broly could go to his maximum without being slow, I dunno, that gives him some kind of upper hand, it's also apparent that he's more evil than Cell. I wish we could see that match.

@ Chev Chelios: Actually, I'm just trying to make things make sense, though my theory could be false, I still support it by minor observations. As for the mind control device, that is your theory, just as I have one, it was never stated in that movie that the mind control device changed his hair color. It is to my knowledge (seeing DBZ advertisements and official Akira Toriyama color art for some of the characters) that some saiyans have different color hair that is deeply, deeply dark, for example, Vegeta, his hair is actually a very, very deep crimson red color, but appears black, this theory is not only supported by Vegeta's hair being red in his 1st appearence in DBZ but by lots of concept art I have seen of there being dark red highlights in Vegeta's hair. That's why I thought (seeing dark lavender and some blue in Broly's hair) I came up with that notation. And actually, I know enough about the series to draw these conclusions.

@ Mr. Satan: If this is true, than why is it that Broly's hair is still an odd color even after breaking free from the mind control device?

@ ssj3blade: wth is a fpssj? You just named the exact levels I did in the exact order, except for you replacing what I called "Mystic" with "fpssj". And your explanation of those levels are a lot like how I explained it, but a lot shorter. So how is your message proving me wrong? I mean, I know it's not really called "Mystic", I just gave it a name to classify it and compare it to the form Gohan was in and then explain the possible reason for it's existence.

@ Everyone: My whole point to everything I posted is that just because Broly is huge, has white eyes, and has different colored Super Saiyan hair doesn't mean he in a "Legenday Super Saiyan" form. Though he is referred to as "The Legendary Super Saiyan" (thanks to plot holes and filler) it has never been stated anywhere, Manga, anime, whatever, that there is such thing as an actual "Legenday Super Saiyan Form", he is in like an Ultra Super Saiyan form (I would say like a USSJ2 or USSJ3) and is just really beefed up, the fact his hair is a different color, I don't really know why, it's like Domitjen said, that's just how he was drawn for the movie, I guess they just wanted him to look bad ass or something, lol.
2009-10-15 19:08:29

Dr. Killjoy

Akira Toriyama and the makers of movie 8 have stated themselves. that the reason broly's hair looked blue/purple at night and had a green tint during the day. when he was in his super saiyan form. was because of the mind control device.
broly braking it after turning into legendary super saiyan form, didn't change this right way (his hair still had a greenish tint)

in movie 10 this was gone, in both his super saiyan and legendary super saiyan form.

and yes i know that in vegeta's first apearance his hair was red. but they changed this later to black as that was easier to color, and looked better
2009-10-16 04:13:34

Julian

sauce?
2009-10-17 18:05:11

Julian

Meaning, do you have a source to back that up?
2009-10-18 19:37:22

Zaku

nice
2009-10-24 09:36:22

Vegetrunks

lol. Funny.
2009-10-29 03:05:09

To Myself (Gears)

@Julian: Agreed with the Brolli's insanity portion but the Saiyan transformation part...

Julian the way you explained the super saiyan thing... I think a part of my soul just died like it did with FFVII:AC, RE movies, and every other video game based movies that basically raped it for the profits and never really considered the fans... along with Transformers 2: Revenge of the fallen (Big mistake to let Micheal Bay to write the story since he qualifies more for action and combat scenes at best)
2009-11-03 16:04:46

Fan of Vegito

I'm so happy to Vegetto appear in DBM, thanks to DBM authors,
I am really Vegetto's fan!! And I watched DBZ for 8 years!!
2009-11-03 17:51:59

H.F.

Julian... there is no Mystic super saiyan 1 there is Full powered ssj and mystic saiyan what is Gohan's trandermark transformation
2009-11-11 18:11:41

My nick

Hmm looks like they saw a little bit Dragonball AF :P
2009-11-17 22:39:44

marko

slagir does look cool actualy
2009-11-21 14:51:18

Dementium

SSJ5 xD -laughs- Yajirobe Is Screwed, Saiyan Himself Or Not

@Julian: It Is As I've Heard And As I Believe Dr. Killjoy Stated Before Me, That Broly's Hair Had The Blue/Purpleish Tint To It Because Of The Slave Crown (( As I've Heard It Dubbed )) Or Mind Control Device Put On Him By His Father Paragus And His Hair Only Changed Back To A Normal Super Saiyan Colour AFTER He Broke It Off In Movie 8 When He Transformed Into His Legendary State. True I Don't Have The Exact Words Of The Original Creator Himself But I Think That This Source (( Below The Post )) Is At Least Something To Consider If Anything At All As It States It There Under The " Transformation " Section In Broly's Bio. I Know It's Only The Wikia And Not The Word Of The Creator But Like I Said, It's Something To Consider If Anything At All

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Broly
2009-11-22 05:10:48

Elder Dipshit

Bullshit no Jutsu

The Super Saiyan 2 form was chronologically achieved by Gohan after witnessing the Cell Juniors's attack on the Z Fighters and Android 16's death at the hands of Perfect Cell. The power of the Super Saiyan 2 form skyrockets far beyond the power of the Super Saiyan, Ascended Super Saiyan, Ultra Super Saiyan, and even Full-Power Super Saiyan forms. Perfect Cell and Bojack, who could both easily dominate those in the Ascended and Ultra Super Saiyan forms and were somewhat stronger than Full-Powered Super Saiyans even without accessing their full strength, were easily slaughtered by Gohan in his Super Saiyan 2 form. In addition, when Perfect Cell produced seven Cell Jrs., each of the Z Fighters were unable to fight evenly with even one of them (including Goku, Vegeta and Future Trunks, but the former was exhausted from his previous fight with Perfect Cell himself). However, when Gohan fought the Cell Juniors in his Super Saiyan 2 form, he killed all of them effortlessly on his own in simple, single blows, and was unaffected by their most powerful attacks.

Gohan proceeded to fight and severely injure Perfect Cell with just two punches, even when the android unleashed his full power. However, in a Kamehameha struggle against Super Perfect Cell, Gohan had a very hard time due to having his left arm broken by Super Perfect Cell's attack when he defended Vegeta after he attacked the android to try to avenge his son's death (a blast which was stated to reduce Gohan's power output to less than half its normal amount). It was only a little help from Goku and Vegeta that Gohan needed to summon enough power to destroy Super Perfect Cell. A few months to a year later, in the movie Bojack Unbound, the Z-Fighters were having a hard time fighting against Bojack and his henchmen and even Gohan was nearly killed. However, when Goku teleported to Earth and saved Gohan from Bojack, Gohan, after hearing his father's words of encouragement, again tapped into his Super Saiyan 2 powers and easily defeated Bojack and his henchmen in a matter of minutes.
2009-11-23 00:36:48

Rage

Um the Ascended Super Saiyan = Super Saiyan 2, check Goku's explanation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E_bse0BLJ8
2009-11-28 07:22:11

Mandarin

I think that Broly's hair is green because he does lots of pushups and situps, and he drinks plenty of LEMONGRASS JUICE. So much that it genetically changed his body's DNA to the color formerly known as LIGHT GREEN, know read as REGULAR GREEN.
2009-11-29 21:22:25

My Nick

how can you even compare cell and broly? cell and Super saiyan goku were equally matched for the most part. Whereas broly knocked super saiyan goku around like a ragdoll and took each attack as though they were nothing [Until goku re-opened the wound he received as a baby with all that combined energy.]
2009-12-02 20:17:02

Son Nick

@Dr. Killjoy
>and yes i know that in vegeta's first apearance his hair was red. but they changed this later to black as that was easier to color, and looked better
Actually, they colored his hair red at the beginning because Toriyama did not give TOEI any specific hair color or costume color, so they guessed. But then when Toriyama came out with a color page featuring Vegeta, they saw that his hair was actually black, and his suit was blue and white.
2009-12-07 02:48:11

profgoten

(for the record) Brolly's hair is green to his Different power level he is a Legendary Super Sayjain his aura is what makes his hair green (and his energy blasts :)
2009-12-15 01:21:06

yo

this is the best thing that has ever happaned to me
so just stop writing this s**t
2009-12-18 04:45:33

The Guru

It's simple!!! Goku fought broly MSSJ. Goku fought cell MSSJ. Goku was at the same level as cell if not just a bit smaller. Goku got his ass kicked by Broly
Goku=Cell. Goku<Broly. Therefore, Broly>Cell.
2010-01-16 21:20:38

Davva

Congratz, you just told all the people on the site how the manga is going to end
2010-04-19 14:02:52

MikeysBoner

Hahaha, the forms of super saiyan in movie 4 and that episode with pikkon are just filler bullshit. Movie 4 was what toei thought super saiyan was gonna be. The form he took in the episode with Pikkon was normal super saiyan originally if I'm not mistaken, and they changed it last minute so when he transformed in front of pikkon it would be more epic.
2010-05-13 12:49:45

LOL

ummm.... SS5 is normal super saiyan hair but grey
2010-05-28 03:26:40

Super Saiyan Robert

You mean False Super Saiyan?
2010-06-14 10:35:18

IchigoMait

Oo where's the comic now with Mozilla I can see the Eng words but no pic and with IE I can see only a "whales black ass".
2010-06-21 14:03:58

A nick

The page doesnt work
2010-07-07 23:46:35

gogon

smt this page wont upload
2010-07-22 00:34:08

GOVETO

wat hapend i cant se anything ok be that way galik kamehameha!!!!!!!!
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